How to solve for maximum area of a rectangle under a curve?
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Having trouble with this optimization question and was hoping I could get some help with it. The function of the curve is $8^{-frac{x}{5}}$. I would greatly appreciate a full explanation.
I already have that: $A = W times H$, $A = 2x times 8^{-frac{x}{5}}$, $A = 16 x^{-frac{x}{5}}$.
I think the derivative of this is $displaystyle frac{-16log x - 16}{5} frac{x^x}{5}$, and in order to get the maximum I have to set it equal to $0$ and solve for it, but I'm somewhat stuck.
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Having trouble with this optimization question and was hoping I could get some help with it. The function of the curve is $8^{-frac{x}{5}}$. I would greatly appreciate a full explanation.
I already have that: $A = W times H$, $A = 2x times 8^{-frac{x}{5}}$, $A = 16 x^{-frac{x}{5}}$.
I think the derivative of this is $displaystyle frac{-16log x - 16}{5} frac{x^x}{5}$, and in order to get the maximum I have to set it equal to $0$ and solve for it, but I'm somewhat stuck.
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I'm confused as to why the area would be $2x times 8^{-frac{x}{5}}$. Is the rectangle bound by $x = 0$ and $y = 0$? If so, it should be $x times 8^{-frac{x}{5}}$, I think.
– 2012ssohn
Jan 27 '14 at 2:20
If you are ok, you can accept the answer and set as solved. Thanks!
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Having trouble with this optimization question and was hoping I could get some help with it. The function of the curve is $8^{-frac{x}{5}}$. I would greatly appreciate a full explanation.
I already have that: $A = W times H$, $A = 2x times 8^{-frac{x}{5}}$, $A = 16 x^{-frac{x}{5}}$.
I think the derivative of this is $displaystyle frac{-16log x - 16}{5} frac{x^x}{5}$, and in order to get the maximum I have to set it equal to $0$ and solve for it, but I'm somewhat stuck.
calculus functions optimization
Having trouble with this optimization question and was hoping I could get some help with it. The function of the curve is $8^{-frac{x}{5}}$. I would greatly appreciate a full explanation.
I already have that: $A = W times H$, $A = 2x times 8^{-frac{x}{5}}$, $A = 16 x^{-frac{x}{5}}$.
I think the derivative of this is $displaystyle frac{-16log x - 16}{5} frac{x^x}{5}$, and in order to get the maximum I have to set it equal to $0$ and solve for it, but I'm somewhat stuck.
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I'm confused as to why the area would be $2x times 8^{-frac{x}{5}}$. Is the rectangle bound by $x = 0$ and $y = 0$? If so, it should be $x times 8^{-frac{x}{5}}$, I think.
– 2012ssohn
Jan 27 '14 at 2:20
If you are ok, you can accept the answer and set as solved. Thanks!
– gimusi
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I'm confused as to why the area would be $2x times 8^{-frac{x}{5}}$. Is the rectangle bound by $x = 0$ and $y = 0$? If so, it should be $x times 8^{-frac{x}{5}}$, I think.
– 2012ssohn
Jan 27 '14 at 2:20
If you are ok, you can accept the answer and set as solved. Thanks!
– gimusi
Jan 20 at 0:07
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I'm confused as to why the area would be $2x times 8^{-frac{x}{5}}$. Is the rectangle bound by $x = 0$ and $y = 0$? If so, it should be $x times 8^{-frac{x}{5}}$, I think.
– 2012ssohn
Jan 27 '14 at 2:20
I'm confused as to why the area would be $2x times 8^{-frac{x}{5}}$. Is the rectangle bound by $x = 0$ and $y = 0$? If so, it should be $x times 8^{-frac{x}{5}}$, I think.
– 2012ssohn
Jan 27 '14 at 2:20
If you are ok, you can accept the answer and set as solved. Thanks!
– gimusi
Jan 20 at 0:07
If you are ok, you can accept the answer and set as solved. Thanks!
– gimusi
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Yes, the area is $x 8^{-x/5}$. Take logarithms to obtain
$$log x - (xlog 8)/5,$$
which is maximized at $x=5/log 8$,
which (if I didn't screw things up) yields
$5/(elog 8)$.
Do you think you might be able to explain this one a little more in depth? I was trying to find the local maximum using the derivative of the function, how does using logarithms help me get the area?
– IceMage88
Jan 27 '14 at 4:21
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It helps you find the location of the maximum, not the area itself. If a function $f$ is maximized at $m$ then so is $log f$. In this case maximizing $log f$ seemed easier. I then plugged the $x$ obtained back into the original area formula, i.e. $x8^{-x/5}$.
– JPi
Jan 27 '14 at 4:24
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Since $8^{-frac{x}{5}}>0$, for $xge 0$ the area is given by $$A(x)=xcdot 8^{-frac{x}{5}}$$
the derivative is given by
$$A(x)=xcdot 8^{-frac{x}{5}}=e^{log x-frac{x}{5}log8}$$
$$A'(x)=e^{log x-frac{x}{5}log8} cdot left(log x-frac{x}{5}log8right)'=8^{-x/5}left(frac1x-frac{1}{5}log8right)=0 implies frac1x-frac{1}{5}log8=0 implies x=frac{5}{log 8}\implies A_{MAX}=frac{5}{log 8}cdot 8^{-frac{1}{log 8}}=frac{5}{log 8}cdot 8^{-log_8e}=frac{5}{elog 8}$$
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Yes, the area is $x 8^{-x/5}$. Take logarithms to obtain
$$log x - (xlog 8)/5,$$
which is maximized at $x=5/log 8$,
which (if I didn't screw things up) yields
$5/(elog 8)$.
Do you think you might be able to explain this one a little more in depth? I was trying to find the local maximum using the derivative of the function, how does using logarithms help me get the area?
– IceMage88
Jan 27 '14 at 4:21
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It helps you find the location of the maximum, not the area itself. If a function $f$ is maximized at $m$ then so is $log f$. In this case maximizing $log f$ seemed easier. I then plugged the $x$ obtained back into the original area formula, i.e. $x8^{-x/5}$.
– JPi
Jan 27 '14 at 4:24
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Yes, the area is $x 8^{-x/5}$. Take logarithms to obtain
$$log x - (xlog 8)/5,$$
which is maximized at $x=5/log 8$,
which (if I didn't screw things up) yields
$5/(elog 8)$.
Do you think you might be able to explain this one a little more in depth? I was trying to find the local maximum using the derivative of the function, how does using logarithms help me get the area?
– IceMage88
Jan 27 '14 at 4:21
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It helps you find the location of the maximum, not the area itself. If a function $f$ is maximized at $m$ then so is $log f$. In this case maximizing $log f$ seemed easier. I then plugged the $x$ obtained back into the original area formula, i.e. $x8^{-x/5}$.
– JPi
Jan 27 '14 at 4:24
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Yes, the area is $x 8^{-x/5}$. Take logarithms to obtain
$$log x - (xlog 8)/5,$$
which is maximized at $x=5/log 8$,
which (if I didn't screw things up) yields
$5/(elog 8)$.
Yes, the area is $x 8^{-x/5}$. Take logarithms to obtain
$$log x - (xlog 8)/5,$$
which is maximized at $x=5/log 8$,
which (if I didn't screw things up) yields
$5/(elog 8)$.
answered Jan 27 '14 at 2:25
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Do you think you might be able to explain this one a little more in depth? I was trying to find the local maximum using the derivative of the function, how does using logarithms help me get the area?
– IceMage88
Jan 27 '14 at 4:21
1
It helps you find the location of the maximum, not the area itself. If a function $f$ is maximized at $m$ then so is $log f$. In this case maximizing $log f$ seemed easier. I then plugged the $x$ obtained back into the original area formula, i.e. $x8^{-x/5}$.
– JPi
Jan 27 '14 at 4:24
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Do you think you might be able to explain this one a little more in depth? I was trying to find the local maximum using the derivative of the function, how does using logarithms help me get the area?
– IceMage88
Jan 27 '14 at 4:21
1
It helps you find the location of the maximum, not the area itself. If a function $f$ is maximized at $m$ then so is $log f$. In this case maximizing $log f$ seemed easier. I then plugged the $x$ obtained back into the original area formula, i.e. $x8^{-x/5}$.
– JPi
Jan 27 '14 at 4:24
Do you think you might be able to explain this one a little more in depth? I was trying to find the local maximum using the derivative of the function, how does using logarithms help me get the area?
– IceMage88
Jan 27 '14 at 4:21
Do you think you might be able to explain this one a little more in depth? I was trying to find the local maximum using the derivative of the function, how does using logarithms help me get the area?
– IceMage88
Jan 27 '14 at 4:21
1
1
It helps you find the location of the maximum, not the area itself. If a function $f$ is maximized at $m$ then so is $log f$. In this case maximizing $log f$ seemed easier. I then plugged the $x$ obtained back into the original area formula, i.e. $x8^{-x/5}$.
– JPi
Jan 27 '14 at 4:24
It helps you find the location of the maximum, not the area itself. If a function $f$ is maximized at $m$ then so is $log f$. In this case maximizing $log f$ seemed easier. I then plugged the $x$ obtained back into the original area formula, i.e. $x8^{-x/5}$.
– JPi
Jan 27 '14 at 4:24
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Since $8^{-frac{x}{5}}>0$, for $xge 0$ the area is given by $$A(x)=xcdot 8^{-frac{x}{5}}$$
the derivative is given by
$$A(x)=xcdot 8^{-frac{x}{5}}=e^{log x-frac{x}{5}log8}$$
$$A'(x)=e^{log x-frac{x}{5}log8} cdot left(log x-frac{x}{5}log8right)'=8^{-x/5}left(frac1x-frac{1}{5}log8right)=0 implies frac1x-frac{1}{5}log8=0 implies x=frac{5}{log 8}\implies A_{MAX}=frac{5}{log 8}cdot 8^{-frac{1}{log 8}}=frac{5}{log 8}cdot 8^{-log_8e}=frac{5}{elog 8}$$
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Since $8^{-frac{x}{5}}>0$, for $xge 0$ the area is given by $$A(x)=xcdot 8^{-frac{x}{5}}$$
the derivative is given by
$$A(x)=xcdot 8^{-frac{x}{5}}=e^{log x-frac{x}{5}log8}$$
$$A'(x)=e^{log x-frac{x}{5}log8} cdot left(log x-frac{x}{5}log8right)'=8^{-x/5}left(frac1x-frac{1}{5}log8right)=0 implies frac1x-frac{1}{5}log8=0 implies x=frac{5}{log 8}\implies A_{MAX}=frac{5}{log 8}cdot 8^{-frac{1}{log 8}}=frac{5}{log 8}cdot 8^{-log_8e}=frac{5}{elog 8}$$
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Since $8^{-frac{x}{5}}>0$, for $xge 0$ the area is given by $$A(x)=xcdot 8^{-frac{x}{5}}$$
the derivative is given by
$$A(x)=xcdot 8^{-frac{x}{5}}=e^{log x-frac{x}{5}log8}$$
$$A'(x)=e^{log x-frac{x}{5}log8} cdot left(log x-frac{x}{5}log8right)'=8^{-x/5}left(frac1x-frac{1}{5}log8right)=0 implies frac1x-frac{1}{5}log8=0 implies x=frac{5}{log 8}\implies A_{MAX}=frac{5}{log 8}cdot 8^{-frac{1}{log 8}}=frac{5}{log 8}cdot 8^{-log_8e}=frac{5}{elog 8}$$
Since $8^{-frac{x}{5}}>0$, for $xge 0$ the area is given by $$A(x)=xcdot 8^{-frac{x}{5}}$$
the derivative is given by
$$A(x)=xcdot 8^{-frac{x}{5}}=e^{log x-frac{x}{5}log8}$$
$$A'(x)=e^{log x-frac{x}{5}log8} cdot left(log x-frac{x}{5}log8right)'=8^{-x/5}left(frac1x-frac{1}{5}log8right)=0 implies frac1x-frac{1}{5}log8=0 implies x=frac{5}{log 8}\implies A_{MAX}=frac{5}{log 8}cdot 8^{-frac{1}{log 8}}=frac{5}{log 8}cdot 8^{-log_8e}=frac{5}{elog 8}$$
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I'm confused as to why the area would be $2x times 8^{-frac{x}{5}}$. Is the rectangle bound by $x = 0$ and $y = 0$? If so, it should be $x times 8^{-frac{x}{5}}$, I think.
– 2012ssohn
Jan 27 '14 at 2:20
If you are ok, you can accept the answer and set as solved. Thanks!
– gimusi
Jan 20 at 0:07