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According to the discussion in this thread, even though the spherical coordinate $theta$ on $S^1$ is a local function, $dtheta$ is a global form on $S^1$. How to prove this rigorously? The discussion also points out it is the pullback of $frac{-ydx+xdy}{x^2+y^2}$. Why?



My attempt:



For the first question: as hinted I probably want to show that two local form $dtheta$, and $dtheta+pi$ agrees on their overlaps. The point is that I want to evaluate $d(theta+pi)(frac{partial }{partialtheta})$. To do that take a function $f: mathbb R to mathbb R$, $d(theta+pi)(frac{partial }{partialtheta})(f) = frac{partial}{partialtheta}(f circ (theta+pi))$, where $fcirc(theta + pi)(e^{itheta}) = f(theta+pi)$. So $d(theta+pi)(frac{partial }{partialtheta})(f) = f'|_{theta+pi}$ as desired. Then $d(theta+pi)$ and $dtheta$ coincides on their overlap, thus we can extend $dtheta$ to a global form on $S^1$.



For the second question: Let $i: s^1 to mathbb R^2$ be the embedding. Then $i^{ast}(frac{-ydx+xdy}{x^2+y^2}) = frac{-ycirc i(dx circ i)+xcirc i(dy circ i)}{(xcirc i)^2+(ycirc i)^2}$. The key observation is that in spherical coordinate $xcirc i(theta) = costheta, y circ i(theta) = sintheta$.



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    I think the main point for the first part is that $theta$ is defined up to addition of multiples of $2pi$ (not $pi$), and $dtheta = d(theta+2pi)$.
    – Ted Shifrin
    Nov 13 at 23:10










  • @Ted Shifrin May you explain why a little bit?
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According to the discussion in this thread, even though the spherical coordinate $theta$ on $S^1$ is a local function, $dtheta$ is a global form on $S^1$. How to prove this rigorously? The discussion also points out it is the pullback of $frac{-ydx+xdy}{x^2+y^2}$. Why?



My attempt:



For the first question: as hinted I probably want to show that two local form $dtheta$, and $dtheta+pi$ agrees on their overlaps. The point is that I want to evaluate $d(theta+pi)(frac{partial }{partialtheta})$. To do that take a function $f: mathbb R to mathbb R$, $d(theta+pi)(frac{partial }{partialtheta})(f) = frac{partial}{partialtheta}(f circ (theta+pi))$, where $fcirc(theta + pi)(e^{itheta}) = f(theta+pi)$. So $d(theta+pi)(frac{partial }{partialtheta})(f) = f'|_{theta+pi}$ as desired. Then $d(theta+pi)$ and $dtheta$ coincides on their overlap, thus we can extend $dtheta$ to a global form on $S^1$.



For the second question: Let $i: s^1 to mathbb R^2$ be the embedding. Then $i^{ast}(frac{-ydx+xdy}{x^2+y^2}) = frac{-ycirc i(dx circ i)+xcirc i(dy circ i)}{(xcirc i)^2+(ycirc i)^2}$. The key observation is that in spherical coordinate $xcirc i(theta) = costheta, y circ i(theta) = sintheta$.



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    I think the main point for the first part is that $theta$ is defined up to addition of multiples of $2pi$ (not $pi$), and $dtheta = d(theta+2pi)$.
    – Ted Shifrin
    Nov 13 at 23:10










  • @Ted Shifrin May you explain why a little bit?
    – koch
    Nov 15 at 15:45















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According to the discussion in this thread, even though the spherical coordinate $theta$ on $S^1$ is a local function, $dtheta$ is a global form on $S^1$. How to prove this rigorously? The discussion also points out it is the pullback of $frac{-ydx+xdy}{x^2+y^2}$. Why?



My attempt:



For the first question: as hinted I probably want to show that two local form $dtheta$, and $dtheta+pi$ agrees on their overlaps. The point is that I want to evaluate $d(theta+pi)(frac{partial }{partialtheta})$. To do that take a function $f: mathbb R to mathbb R$, $d(theta+pi)(frac{partial }{partialtheta})(f) = frac{partial}{partialtheta}(f circ (theta+pi))$, where $fcirc(theta + pi)(e^{itheta}) = f(theta+pi)$. So $d(theta+pi)(frac{partial }{partialtheta})(f) = f'|_{theta+pi}$ as desired. Then $d(theta+pi)$ and $dtheta$ coincides on their overlap, thus we can extend $dtheta$ to a global form on $S^1$.



For the second question: Let $i: s^1 to mathbb R^2$ be the embedding. Then $i^{ast}(frac{-ydx+xdy}{x^2+y^2}) = frac{-ycirc i(dx circ i)+xcirc i(dy circ i)}{(xcirc i)^2+(ycirc i)^2}$. The key observation is that in spherical coordinate $xcirc i(theta) = costheta, y circ i(theta) = sintheta$.



Am I right in my reasonings?










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According to the discussion in this thread, even though the spherical coordinate $theta$ on $S^1$ is a local function, $dtheta$ is a global form on $S^1$. How to prove this rigorously? The discussion also points out it is the pullback of $frac{-ydx+xdy}{x^2+y^2}$. Why?



My attempt:



For the first question: as hinted I probably want to show that two local form $dtheta$, and $dtheta+pi$ agrees on their overlaps. The point is that I want to evaluate $d(theta+pi)(frac{partial }{partialtheta})$. To do that take a function $f: mathbb R to mathbb R$, $d(theta+pi)(frac{partial }{partialtheta})(f) = frac{partial}{partialtheta}(f circ (theta+pi))$, where $fcirc(theta + pi)(e^{itheta}) = f(theta+pi)$. So $d(theta+pi)(frac{partial }{partialtheta})(f) = f'|_{theta+pi}$ as desired. Then $d(theta+pi)$ and $dtheta$ coincides on their overlap, thus we can extend $dtheta$ to a global form on $S^1$.



For the second question: Let $i: s^1 to mathbb R^2$ be the embedding. Then $i^{ast}(frac{-ydx+xdy}{x^2+y^2}) = frac{-ycirc i(dx circ i)+xcirc i(dy circ i)}{(xcirc i)^2+(ycirc i)^2}$. The key observation is that in spherical coordinate $xcirc i(theta) = costheta, y circ i(theta) = sintheta$.



Am I right in my reasonings?







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    I think the main point for the first part is that $theta$ is defined up to addition of multiples of $2pi$ (not $pi$), and $dtheta = d(theta+2pi)$.
    – Ted Shifrin
    Nov 13 at 23:10










  • @Ted Shifrin May you explain why a little bit?
    – koch
    Nov 15 at 15:45
















  • 1




    I think the main point for the first part is that $theta$ is defined up to addition of multiples of $2pi$ (not $pi$), and $dtheta = d(theta+2pi)$.
    – Ted Shifrin
    Nov 13 at 23:10










  • @Ted Shifrin May you explain why a little bit?
    – koch
    Nov 15 at 15:45










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I think the main point for the first part is that $theta$ is defined up to addition of multiples of $2pi$ (not $pi$), and $dtheta = d(theta+2pi)$.
– Ted Shifrin
Nov 13 at 23:10




I think the main point for the first part is that $theta$ is defined up to addition of multiples of $2pi$ (not $pi$), and $dtheta = d(theta+2pi)$.
– Ted Shifrin
Nov 13 at 23:10












@Ted Shifrin May you explain why a little bit?
– koch
Nov 15 at 15:45






@Ted Shifrin May you explain why a little bit?
– koch
Nov 15 at 15:45

















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