What playable races were cut between 4e and 5e?
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I'm just starting out with D&D, and while I haven't played yet, I'm in love with all the things in the PHB. But I am a sucker for self-torture/more content, and I was wondering what got left behind when 5e came out in terms of playable races.
What playable races were cut in the transition from 4e to 5e?
dnd-5e dnd-4e races edition-comparison
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I'm just starting out with D&D, and while I haven't played yet, I'm in love with all the things in the PHB. But I am a sucker for self-torture/more content, and I was wondering what got left behind when 5e came out in terms of playable races.
What playable races were cut in the transition from 4e to 5e?
dnd-5e dnd-4e races edition-comparison
edited Mar 31 at 5:36
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asked Mar 31 at 5:20
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Welcome to RPG.SE! Take the tour if you haven't already, and check out the help center for more guidance. As those are two completely different questions, I've edited out this question to focus on the first part; you're welcome ask the second question separately.
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Related: Could you use a 4th Edition character in a 5th Edition adventure, just for level 1?, How can I convert D&D 4e adventures and settings to 5e?, How to convert a 4e boss to the 5e system?
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Related: What are the playable races in 5e?
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– nitsua60♦
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I'm just starting out with D&D, and while I haven't played yet, I'm in love with all the things in the PHB. But I am a sucker for self-torture/more content, and I was wondering what got left behind when 5e came out in terms of playable races.
What playable races were cut in the transition from 4e to 5e?
dnd-5e dnd-4e races edition-comparison
edited Mar 31 at 5:36
V2Blast
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asked Mar 31 at 5:20
SnydwellSnydwell
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I'm just starting out with D&D, and while I haven't played yet, I'm in love with all the things in the PHB. But I am a sucker for self-torture/more content, and I was wondering what got left behind when 5e came out in terms of playable races.
What playable races were cut in the transition from 4e to 5e?
dnd-5e dnd-4e races edition-comparison
dnd-5e dnd-4e races edition-comparison
edited Mar 31 at 5:36
V2Blast
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asked Mar 31 at 5:20
SnydwellSnydwell
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edited Mar 31 at 5:36
V2Blast
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asked Mar 31 at 5:20
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edited Mar 31 at 5:36
V2Blast
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Welcome to RPG.SE! Take the tour if you haven't already, and check out the help center for more guidance. As those are two completely different questions, I've edited out this question to focus on the first part; you're welcome ask the second question separately.
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– V2Blast
Mar 31 at 5:35
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Related: Could you use a 4th Edition character in a 5th Edition adventure, just for level 1?, How can I convert D&D 4e adventures and settings to 5e?, How to convert a 4e boss to the 5e system?
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– V2Blast
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Related: What are the playable races in 5e?
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– nitsua60♦
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Welcome to RPG.SE! Take the tour if you haven't already, and check out the help center for more guidance. As those are two completely different questions, I've edited out this question to focus on the first part; you're welcome ask the second question separately.
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– V2Blast
Mar 31 at 5:35
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Related: Could you use a 4th Edition character in a 5th Edition adventure, just for level 1?, How can I convert D&D 4e adventures and settings to 5e?, How to convert a 4e boss to the 5e system?
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Related: What are the playable races in 5e?
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– nitsua60♦
Mar 31 at 12:48
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Welcome to RPG.SE! Take the tour if you haven't already, and check out the help center for more guidance. As those are two completely different questions, I've edited out this question to focus on the first part; you're welcome ask the second question separately.
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– V2Blast
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Welcome to RPG.SE! Take the tour if you haven't already, and check out the help center for more guidance. As those are two completely different questions, I've edited out this question to focus on the first part; you're welcome ask the second question separately.
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Related: Could you use a 4th Edition character in a 5th Edition adventure, just for level 1?, How can I convert D&D 4e adventures and settings to 5e?, How to convert a 4e boss to the 5e system?
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Related: What are the playable races in 5e?
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– nitsua60♦
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This is an interesting question that could be rephrased as "What's not in 5th edition...yet?" because Wizards has indeed been filling in some of the gaps.
To start with, though, 4th Edition had much more source material... velocity(?) than 5th. (This is intended, as I understand it). Races are actually one of the easier things though!
At its start, 5th edition lacked:
(A * denotes that the race in question has been combined or altered, or is otherwise inconclusive as to whether or not it was truly "carried over" between editions)
Player's Handbook
- Eladrin* (Now an official Elf Subrace as of MToF)
Interesting to note that Half-Orcs and gnomes did not make it into this book (they're in PHB 2 instead), but PHB to PHB, the initial races available were otherwise nearly the same.
Player's Handbook 2
- Deva* (Parallels with Aasimar from VGtM)
- Longtooth Shifter
- Razortooth Shifter
- Goliath (Added to 5e w/ VGtM)
4th edition didn't have nearly as many subraces as 5th does, but Shifters (a lycanthrope-blooded race) got two.
Player's Handbook 3
- Githzerai (added to 5e w/ MToF)
- Minotaur (does the Ravnica supplement count for 5e here?)
- Shardmind
- Wilden
As an interesting note, 4th edition didn't let you do organized play as a Githyanki, only a Githzerai. Shardminds were psionic crystal beings with a sort of hive consciousness if I remember correctly, and Wilden were plant people who had "seasonal" subraces they could change between. (5e Eladrin picked up some of that, actually)
Dragon Magazine
- Gnoll
- Shadar-kai* (Now an official Elf Subrace as of MToF)
In addition to the books, 4th edition's monthly Dragon magazine added 2 official races. Interesting to note here that 4e Shadar-kai weren't elves.
Monster Manuals
- Bugbear (Added to 5e w/ VGtM)
- Bullywug
- Duergar* (Now an official Dwarf Subrace as of SCAG)
- Hobgoblin (Added to 5e w/ VGtM)
- Kenku (Added to 5e w/ VGtM)
- Orc (Added to 5e w/ VGtM)
These races had minimal "official" support, but stats / powers / etc. were provided for these all the same.
Finally, there were a number of singular or campaign-specific races that showed up in other random sources
Misc
- Kobolds (Added to 5e w/ VGtM)
- Svirfneblin (Now an official Gnome Subrace as of SCAG)
- Goblin (Added to 5e w/ VGtM)
- Bladeling
- Changeling
- Genasi (Added to 5e w/ EE)
- Kalashtar
- Mul (Half-Dwarf)
- Revenant
- Shade
- Thri-kreen
- Vryloka
- Warforged
- Hamadryad
- Pixie
- Satyr
Fun fact: Drow weren't in the Player's Handbook in 4th edition! To play them you'd have to wait 3 months past 4E's debut. Genasi show up here with 13(!) subraces. Shades are like the Shadar-kai in that they were humans who lived in the Shadowfell, but I'm murky on how precisely they were different. Vrylocka are vampire-folk.
Conclusion
First, I'd be remiss if I didn't add a disclaimer that I may have missed one (or more!), so think of this as a thorough, if not comprehensive, comparison.
All together, it looks like 27-33 races were "lost" in the transition, with a smaller number of 16 that have no representation as playable races in 5e as of this post.
Missing from 5E
- Longtooth Shifter
- Razortooth Shifter
- Shardmind
- Wilden
- Bladeling
- Changeling
- Kalashtar
- Mul (Half-Dwarf)
- Revenant
- Shade
- Thri-kreen
- Vryloka
- Warforged
- Hamadryad
- Pixie
- Satyr
Some of these races (Kalashtar, Changelings, Warforged, Mul, and Thri-kreen) are campaign specific to either Eberron or Dark Sun so might be expected in the future, but the rest of this list is probably unlikely to be seen soon (if at all).
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There's already an Eberron book, though it's currently a "living document" and hasn't been finalized yet: the Wayfinder's Guide to Eberron. Changelings, Kalashtar, Shifters, and Warforged all already appear in it (they were also playtested in this UA). Revenants also appeared in UA: Gothic Heroes as a general "subrace" but were never published.
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– V2Blast
Mar 31 at 6:54
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Why wouldn't Guildmaster's Guide to Ravnica count?
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– nitsua60♦
Mar 31 at 12:50
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@nitsua60 - are they Adventure League legal? I know the previous D&D crossover content was more like UA material -- not sure of the official status of GGtR.
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– Raven Dreamer
Mar 31 at 13:03
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@V2Blast note that WGE is AL legal for Eberron campaigns.
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– Rubiksmoose
Mar 31 at 13:20
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This is an interesting question that could be rephrased as "What's not in 5th edition...yet?" because Wizards has indeed been filling in some of the gaps.
To start with, though, 4th Edition had much more source material... velocity(?) than 5th. (This is intended, as I understand it). Races are actually one of the easier things though!
At its start, 5th edition lacked:
(A * denotes that the race in question has been combined or altered, or is otherwise inconclusive as to whether or not it was truly "carried over" between editions)
Player's Handbook
- Eladrin* (Now an official Elf Subrace as of MToF)
Interesting to note that Half-Orcs and gnomes did not make it into this book (they're in PHB 2 instead), but PHB to PHB, the initial races available were otherwise nearly the same.
Player's Handbook 2
- Deva* (Parallels with Aasimar from VGtM)
- Longtooth Shifter
- Razortooth Shifter
- Goliath (Added to 5e w/ VGtM)
4th edition didn't have nearly as many subraces as 5th does, but Shifters (a lycanthrope-blooded race) got two.
Player's Handbook 3
- Githzerai (added to 5e w/ MToF)
- Minotaur (does the Ravnica supplement count for 5e here?)
- Shardmind
- Wilden
As an interesting note, 4th edition didn't let you do organized play as a Githyanki, only a Githzerai. Shardminds were psionic crystal beings with a sort of hive consciousness if I remember correctly, and Wilden were plant people who had "seasonal" subraces they could change between. (5e Eladrin picked up some of that, actually)
Dragon Magazine
- Gnoll
- Shadar-kai* (Now an official Elf Subrace as of MToF)
In addition to the books, 4th edition's monthly Dragon magazine added 2 official races. Interesting to note here that 4e Shadar-kai weren't elves.
Monster Manuals
- Bugbear (Added to 5e w/ VGtM)
- Bullywug
- Duergar* (Now an official Dwarf Subrace as of SCAG)
- Hobgoblin (Added to 5e w/ VGtM)
- Kenku (Added to 5e w/ VGtM)
- Orc (Added to 5e w/ VGtM)
These races had minimal "official" support, but stats / powers / etc. were provided for these all the same.
Finally, there were a number of singular or campaign-specific races that showed up in other random sources
Misc
- Kobolds (Added to 5e w/ VGtM)
- Svirfneblin (Now an official Gnome Subrace as of SCAG)
- Goblin (Added to 5e w/ VGtM)
- Bladeling
- Changeling
- Genasi (Added to 5e w/ EE)
- Kalashtar
- Mul (Half-Dwarf)
- Revenant
- Shade
- Thri-kreen
- Vryloka
- Warforged
- Hamadryad
- Pixie
- Satyr
Fun fact: Drow weren't in the Player's Handbook in 4th edition! To play them you'd have to wait 3 months past 4E's debut. Genasi show up here with 13(!) subraces. Shades are like the Shadar-kai in that they were humans who lived in the Shadowfell, but I'm murky on how precisely they were different. Vrylocka are vampire-folk.
Conclusion
First, I'd be remiss if I didn't add a disclaimer that I may have missed one (or more!), so think of this as a thorough, if not comprehensive, comparison.
All together, it looks like 27-33 races were "lost" in the transition, with a smaller number of 16 that have no representation as playable races in 5e as of this post.
Missing from 5E
- Longtooth Shifter
- Razortooth Shifter
- Shardmind
- Wilden
- Bladeling
- Changeling
- Kalashtar
- Mul (Half-Dwarf)
- Revenant
- Shade
- Thri-kreen
- Vryloka
- Warforged
- Hamadryad
- Pixie
- Satyr
Some of these races (Kalashtar, Changelings, Warforged, Mul, and Thri-kreen) are campaign specific to either Eberron or Dark Sun so might be expected in the future, but the rest of this list is probably unlikely to be seen soon (if at all).
edited Mar 31 at 6:55
V2Blast
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answered Mar 31 at 6:38
Raven DreamerRaven Dreamer
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There's already an Eberron book, though it's currently a "living document" and hasn't been finalized yet: the Wayfinder's Guide to Eberron. Changelings, Kalashtar, Shifters, and Warforged all already appear in it (they were also playtested in this UA). Revenants also appeared in UA: Gothic Heroes as a general "subrace" but were never published.
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– V2Blast
Mar 31 at 6:54
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Why wouldn't Guildmaster's Guide to Ravnica count?
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– nitsua60♦
Mar 31 at 12:50
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@nitsua60 - are they Adventure League legal? I know the previous D&D crossover content was more like UA material -- not sure of the official status of GGtR.
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– Raven Dreamer
Mar 31 at 13:03
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@V2Blast note that WGE is AL legal for Eberron campaigns.
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– Rubiksmoose
Mar 31 at 13:20
add a comment |
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This is an interesting question that could be rephrased as "What's not in 5th edition...yet?" because Wizards has indeed been filling in some of the gaps.
To start with, though, 4th Edition had much more source material... velocity(?) than 5th. (This is intended, as I understand it). Races are actually one of the easier things though!
At its start, 5th edition lacked:
(A * denotes that the race in question has been combined or altered, or is otherwise inconclusive as to whether or not it was truly "carried over" between editions)
Player's Handbook
- Eladrin* (Now an official Elf Subrace as of MToF)
Interesting to note that Half-Orcs and gnomes did not make it into this book (they're in PHB 2 instead), but PHB to PHB, the initial races available were otherwise nearly the same.
Player's Handbook 2
- Deva* (Parallels with Aasimar from VGtM)
- Longtooth Shifter
- Razortooth Shifter
- Goliath (Added to 5e w/ VGtM)
4th edition didn't have nearly as many subraces as 5th does, but Shifters (a lycanthrope-blooded race) got two.
Player's Handbook 3
- Githzerai (added to 5e w/ MToF)
- Minotaur (does the Ravnica supplement count for 5e here?)
- Shardmind
- Wilden
As an interesting note, 4th edition didn't let you do organized play as a Githyanki, only a Githzerai. Shardminds were psionic crystal beings with a sort of hive consciousness if I remember correctly, and Wilden were plant people who had "seasonal" subraces they could change between. (5e Eladrin picked up some of that, actually)
Dragon Magazine
- Gnoll
- Shadar-kai* (Now an official Elf Subrace as of MToF)
In addition to the books, 4th edition's monthly Dragon magazine added 2 official races. Interesting to note here that 4e Shadar-kai weren't elves.
Monster Manuals
- Bugbear (Added to 5e w/ VGtM)
- Bullywug
- Duergar* (Now an official Dwarf Subrace as of SCAG)
- Hobgoblin (Added to 5e w/ VGtM)
- Kenku (Added to 5e w/ VGtM)
- Orc (Added to 5e w/ VGtM)
These races had minimal "official" support, but stats / powers / etc. were provided for these all the same.
Finally, there were a number of singular or campaign-specific races that showed up in other random sources
Misc
- Kobolds (Added to 5e w/ VGtM)
- Svirfneblin (Now an official Gnome Subrace as of SCAG)
- Goblin (Added to 5e w/ VGtM)
- Bladeling
- Changeling
- Genasi (Added to 5e w/ EE)
- Kalashtar
- Mul (Half-Dwarf)
- Revenant
- Shade
- Thri-kreen
- Vryloka
- Warforged
- Hamadryad
- Pixie
- Satyr
Fun fact: Drow weren't in the Player's Handbook in 4th edition! To play them you'd have to wait 3 months past 4E's debut. Genasi show up here with 13(!) subraces. Shades are like the Shadar-kai in that they were humans who lived in the Shadowfell, but I'm murky on how precisely they were different. Vrylocka are vampire-folk.
Conclusion
First, I'd be remiss if I didn't add a disclaimer that I may have missed one (or more!), so think of this as a thorough, if not comprehensive, comparison.
All together, it looks like 27-33 races were "lost" in the transition, with a smaller number of 16 that have no representation as playable races in 5e as of this post.
Missing from 5E
- Longtooth Shifter
- Razortooth Shifter
- Shardmind
- Wilden
- Bladeling
- Changeling
- Kalashtar
- Mul (Half-Dwarf)
- Revenant
- Shade
- Thri-kreen
- Vryloka
- Warforged
- Hamadryad
- Pixie
- Satyr
Some of these races (Kalashtar, Changelings, Warforged, Mul, and Thri-kreen) are campaign specific to either Eberron or Dark Sun so might be expected in the future, but the rest of this list is probably unlikely to be seen soon (if at all).
edited Mar 31 at 6:55
V2Blast
26.3k591161
answered Mar 31 at 6:38
Raven DreamerRaven Dreamer
96721019
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There's already an Eberron book, though it's currently a "living document" and hasn't been finalized yet: the Wayfinder's Guide to Eberron. Changelings, Kalashtar, Shifters, and Warforged all already appear in it (they were also playtested in this UA). Revenants also appeared in UA: Gothic Heroes as a general "subrace" but were never published.
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– V2Blast
Mar 31 at 6:54
2
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Why wouldn't Guildmaster's Guide to Ravnica count?
$endgroup$
– nitsua60♦
Mar 31 at 12:50
1
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@nitsua60 - are they Adventure League legal? I know the previous D&D crossover content was more like UA material -- not sure of the official status of GGtR.
$endgroup$
– Raven Dreamer
Mar 31 at 13:03
1
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@V2Blast note that WGE is AL legal for Eberron campaigns.
$endgroup$
– Rubiksmoose
Mar 31 at 13:20
add a comment |
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This is an interesting question that could be rephrased as "What's not in 5th edition...yet?" because Wizards has indeed been filling in some of the gaps.
To start with, though, 4th Edition had much more source material... velocity(?) than 5th. (This is intended, as I understand it). Races are actually one of the easier things though!
At its start, 5th edition lacked:
(A * denotes that the race in question has been combined or altered, or is otherwise inconclusive as to whether or not it was truly "carried over" between editions)
Player's Handbook
- Eladrin* (Now an official Elf Subrace as of MToF)
Interesting to note that Half-Orcs and gnomes did not make it into this book (they're in PHB 2 instead), but PHB to PHB, the initial races available were otherwise nearly the same.
Player's Handbook 2
- Deva* (Parallels with Aasimar from VGtM)
- Longtooth Shifter
- Razortooth Shifter
- Goliath (Added to 5e w/ VGtM)
4th edition didn't have nearly as many subraces as 5th does, but Shifters (a lycanthrope-blooded race) got two.
Player's Handbook 3
- Githzerai (added to 5e w/ MToF)
- Minotaur (does the Ravnica supplement count for 5e here?)
- Shardmind
- Wilden
As an interesting note, 4th edition didn't let you do organized play as a Githyanki, only a Githzerai. Shardminds were psionic crystal beings with a sort of hive consciousness if I remember correctly, and Wilden were plant people who had "seasonal" subraces they could change between. (5e Eladrin picked up some of that, actually)
Dragon Magazine
- Gnoll
- Shadar-kai* (Now an official Elf Subrace as of MToF)
In addition to the books, 4th edition's monthly Dragon magazine added 2 official races. Interesting to note here that 4e Shadar-kai weren't elves.
Monster Manuals
- Bugbear (Added to 5e w/ VGtM)
- Bullywug
- Duergar* (Now an official Dwarf Subrace as of SCAG)
- Hobgoblin (Added to 5e w/ VGtM)
- Kenku (Added to 5e w/ VGtM)
- Orc (Added to 5e w/ VGtM)
These races had minimal "official" support, but stats / powers / etc. were provided for these all the same.
Finally, there were a number of singular or campaign-specific races that showed up in other random sources
Misc
- Kobolds (Added to 5e w/ VGtM)
- Svirfneblin (Now an official Gnome Subrace as of SCAG)
- Goblin (Added to 5e w/ VGtM)
- Bladeling
- Changeling
- Genasi (Added to 5e w/ EE)
- Kalashtar
- Mul (Half-Dwarf)
- Revenant
- Shade
- Thri-kreen
- Vryloka
- Warforged
- Hamadryad
- Pixie
- Satyr
Fun fact: Drow weren't in the Player's Handbook in 4th edition! To play them you'd have to wait 3 months past 4E's debut. Genasi show up here with 13(!) subraces. Shades are like the Shadar-kai in that they were humans who lived in the Shadowfell, but I'm murky on how precisely they were different. Vrylocka are vampire-folk.
Conclusion
First, I'd be remiss if I didn't add a disclaimer that I may have missed one (or more!), so think of this as a thorough, if not comprehensive, comparison.
All together, it looks like 27-33 races were "lost" in the transition, with a smaller number of 16 that have no representation as playable races in 5e as of this post.
Missing from 5E
- Longtooth Shifter
- Razortooth Shifter
- Shardmind
- Wilden
- Bladeling
- Changeling
- Kalashtar
- Mul (Half-Dwarf)
- Revenant
- Shade
- Thri-kreen
- Vryloka
- Warforged
- Hamadryad
- Pixie
- Satyr
Some of these races (Kalashtar, Changelings, Warforged, Mul, and Thri-kreen) are campaign specific to either Eberron or Dark Sun so might be expected in the future, but the rest of this list is probably unlikely to be seen soon (if at all).
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This is an interesting question that could be rephrased as "What's not in 5th edition...yet?" because Wizards has indeed been filling in some of the gaps.
To start with, though, 4th Edition had much more source material... velocity(?) than 5th. (This is intended, as I understand it). Races are actually one of the easier things though!
At its start, 5th edition lacked:
(A * denotes that the race in question has been combined or altered, or is otherwise inconclusive as to whether or not it was truly "carried over" between editions)
Player's Handbook
- Eladrin* (Now an official Elf Subrace as of MToF)
Interesting to note that Half-Orcs and gnomes did not make it into this book (they're in PHB 2 instead), but PHB to PHB, the initial races available were otherwise nearly the same.
Player's Handbook 2
- Deva* (Parallels with Aasimar from VGtM)
- Longtooth Shifter
- Razortooth Shifter
- Goliath (Added to 5e w/ VGtM)
4th edition didn't have nearly as many subraces as 5th does, but Shifters (a lycanthrope-blooded race) got two.
Player's Handbook 3
- Githzerai (added to 5e w/ MToF)
- Minotaur (does the Ravnica supplement count for 5e here?)
- Shardmind
- Wilden
As an interesting note, 4th edition didn't let you do organized play as a Githyanki, only a Githzerai. Shardminds were psionic crystal beings with a sort of hive consciousness if I remember correctly, and Wilden were plant people who had "seasonal" subraces they could change between. (5e Eladrin picked up some of that, actually)
Dragon Magazine
- Gnoll
- Shadar-kai* (Now an official Elf Subrace as of MToF)
In addition to the books, 4th edition's monthly Dragon magazine added 2 official races. Interesting to note here that 4e Shadar-kai weren't elves.
Monster Manuals
- Bugbear (Added to 5e w/ VGtM)
- Bullywug
- Duergar* (Now an official Dwarf Subrace as of SCAG)
- Hobgoblin (Added to 5e w/ VGtM)
- Kenku (Added to 5e w/ VGtM)
- Orc (Added to 5e w/ VGtM)
These races had minimal "official" support, but stats / powers / etc. were provided for these all the same.
Finally, there were a number of singular or campaign-specific races that showed up in other random sources
Misc
- Kobolds (Added to 5e w/ VGtM)
- Svirfneblin (Now an official Gnome Subrace as of SCAG)
- Goblin (Added to 5e w/ VGtM)
- Bladeling
- Changeling
- Genasi (Added to 5e w/ EE)
- Kalashtar
- Mul (Half-Dwarf)
- Revenant
- Shade
- Thri-kreen
- Vryloka
- Warforged
- Hamadryad
- Pixie
- Satyr
Fun fact: Drow weren't in the Player's Handbook in 4th edition! To play them you'd have to wait 3 months past 4E's debut. Genasi show up here with 13(!) subraces. Shades are like the Shadar-kai in that they were humans who lived in the Shadowfell, but I'm murky on how precisely they were different. Vrylocka are vampire-folk.
Conclusion
First, I'd be remiss if I didn't add a disclaimer that I may have missed one (or more!), so think of this as a thorough, if not comprehensive, comparison.
All together, it looks like 27-33 races were "lost" in the transition, with a smaller number of 16 that have no representation as playable races in 5e as of this post.
Missing from 5E
- Longtooth Shifter
- Razortooth Shifter
- Shardmind
- Wilden
- Bladeling
- Changeling
- Kalashtar
- Mul (Half-Dwarf)
- Revenant
- Shade
- Thri-kreen
- Vryloka
- Warforged
- Hamadryad
- Pixie
- Satyr
Some of these races (Kalashtar, Changelings, Warforged, Mul, and Thri-kreen) are campaign specific to either Eberron or Dark Sun so might be expected in the future, but the rest of this list is probably unlikely to be seen soon (if at all).
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edited Mar 31 at 6:55
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There's already an Eberron book, though it's currently a "living document" and hasn't been finalized yet: the Wayfinder's Guide to Eberron. Changelings, Kalashtar, Shifters, and Warforged all already appear in it (they were also playtested in this UA). Revenants also appeared in UA: Gothic Heroes as a general "subrace" but were never published.
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Why wouldn't Guildmaster's Guide to Ravnica count?
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– nitsua60♦
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@nitsua60 - are they Adventure League legal? I know the previous D&D crossover content was more like UA material -- not sure of the official status of GGtR.
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– Raven Dreamer
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@V2Blast note that WGE is AL legal for Eberron campaigns.
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There's already an Eberron book, though it's currently a "living document" and hasn't been finalized yet: the Wayfinder's Guide to Eberron. Changelings, Kalashtar, Shifters, and Warforged all already appear in it (they were also playtested in this UA). Revenants also appeared in UA: Gothic Heroes as a general "subrace" but were never published.
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– V2Blast
Mar 31 at 6:54
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Why wouldn't Guildmaster's Guide to Ravnica count?
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– nitsua60♦
Mar 31 at 12:50
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@nitsua60 - are they Adventure League legal? I know the previous D&D crossover content was more like UA material -- not sure of the official status of GGtR.
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– Raven Dreamer
Mar 31 at 13:03
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@V2Blast note that WGE is AL legal for Eberron campaigns.
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– Rubiksmoose
Mar 31 at 13:20
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1
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There's already an Eberron book, though it's currently a "living document" and hasn't been finalized yet: the Wayfinder's Guide to Eberron. Changelings, Kalashtar, Shifters, and Warforged all already appear in it (they were also playtested in this UA). Revenants also appeared in UA: Gothic Heroes as a general "subrace" but were never published.
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– V2Blast
Mar 31 at 6:54
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There's already an Eberron book, though it's currently a "living document" and hasn't been finalized yet: the Wayfinder's Guide to Eberron. Changelings, Kalashtar, Shifters, and Warforged all already appear in it (they were also playtested in this UA). Revenants also appeared in UA: Gothic Heroes as a general "subrace" but were never published.
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– V2Blast
Mar 31 at 6:54
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Why wouldn't Guildmaster's Guide to Ravnica count?
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– nitsua60♦
Mar 31 at 12:50
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Why wouldn't Guildmaster's Guide to Ravnica count?
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– nitsua60♦
Mar 31 at 12:50
1
1
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@nitsua60 - are they Adventure League legal? I know the previous D&D crossover content was more like UA material -- not sure of the official status of GGtR.
$endgroup$
– Raven Dreamer
Mar 31 at 13:03
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@nitsua60 - are they Adventure League legal? I know the previous D&D crossover content was more like UA material -- not sure of the official status of GGtR.
$endgroup$
– Raven Dreamer
Mar 31 at 13:03
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1
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@V2Blast note that WGE is AL legal for Eberron campaigns.
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– Rubiksmoose
Mar 31 at 13:20
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@V2Blast note that WGE is AL legal for Eberron campaigns.
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– Rubiksmoose
Mar 31 at 13:20
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Related: Could you use a 4th Edition character in a 5th Edition adventure, just for level 1?, How can I convert D&D 4e adventures and settings to 5e?, How to convert a 4e boss to the 5e system?
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Related: What are the playable races in 5e?
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