Show that $F(x,y)=2^x(2y+1)$ is onto from $mathbb{Z}^+ cup {0} times mathbb{Z}^+ cup {0}$ to $mathbb{Z}^+$.












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Let $C$ be the set of nonnegative integers. Let $A=Ctimes C$ and $B=C$.
Let $F(x,y)=2^x(2y+1)$ for all $x$ and $y$ in C.



How do I show whether $F$ is a function from $A$ onto $B$?










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  • By using the definition of "onto" more or less directly.
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    Actually the function is not "onto". $F(x,y)$ cannot take value $0$.
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Here is the problem:



Let $C$ be the set of nonnegative integers. Let $A=Ctimes C$ and $B=C$.
Let $F(x,y)=2^x(2y+1)$ for all $x$ and $y$ in C.



How do I show whether $F$ is a function from $A$ onto $B$?










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  • By using the definition of "onto" more or less directly.
    – Arthur
    Nov 21 '18 at 11:34






  • 2




    Actually the function is not "onto". $F(x,y)$ cannot take value $0$.
    – drhab
    Nov 21 '18 at 11:37














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Here is the problem:



Let $C$ be the set of nonnegative integers. Let $A=Ctimes C$ and $B=C$.
Let $F(x,y)=2^x(2y+1)$ for all $x$ and $y$ in C.



How do I show whether $F$ is a function from $A$ onto $B$?










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Here is the problem:



Let $C$ be the set of nonnegative integers. Let $A=Ctimes C$ and $B=C$.
Let $F(x,y)=2^x(2y+1)$ for all $x$ and $y$ in C.



How do I show whether $F$ is a function from $A$ onto $B$?







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  • By using the definition of "onto" more or less directly.
    – Arthur
    Nov 21 '18 at 11:34






  • 2




    Actually the function is not "onto". $F(x,y)$ cannot take value $0$.
    – drhab
    Nov 21 '18 at 11:37


















  • By using the definition of "onto" more or less directly.
    – Arthur
    Nov 21 '18 at 11:34






  • 2




    Actually the function is not "onto". $F(x,y)$ cannot take value $0$.
    – drhab
    Nov 21 '18 at 11:37
















By using the definition of "onto" more or less directly.
– Arthur
Nov 21 '18 at 11:34




By using the definition of "onto" more or less directly.
– Arthur
Nov 21 '18 at 11:34




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Actually the function is not "onto". $F(x,y)$ cannot take value $0$.
– drhab
Nov 21 '18 at 11:37




Actually the function is not "onto". $F(x,y)$ cannot take value $0$.
– drhab
Nov 21 '18 at 11:37










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The function is not onto because it can't take value zero. However if you take $B=C- { 0 }$, then it is onto. Simply observe that, by putting $x=0$, you can get all odd positive integers. For any even positive integer, divide it by maximum possible power of 2. Then you'll left with odd integer. Choose your $y$ accordingly. For example, if you want to get 12, $frac{12}{2^2}=3.$ So, take $x= 2$ and $y= 1$.






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    The function is not onto because it can't take value zero. However if you take $B=C- { 0 }$, then it is onto. Simply observe that, by putting $x=0$, you can get all odd positive integers. For any even positive integer, divide it by maximum possible power of 2. Then you'll left with odd integer. Choose your $y$ accordingly. For example, if you want to get 12, $frac{12}{2^2}=3.$ So, take $x= 2$ and $y= 1$.






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      The function is not onto because it can't take value zero. However if you take $B=C- { 0 }$, then it is onto. Simply observe that, by putting $x=0$, you can get all odd positive integers. For any even positive integer, divide it by maximum possible power of 2. Then you'll left with odd integer. Choose your $y$ accordingly. For example, if you want to get 12, $frac{12}{2^2}=3.$ So, take $x= 2$ and $y= 1$.






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        The function is not onto because it can't take value zero. However if you take $B=C- { 0 }$, then it is onto. Simply observe that, by putting $x=0$, you can get all odd positive integers. For any even positive integer, divide it by maximum possible power of 2. Then you'll left with odd integer. Choose your $y$ accordingly. For example, if you want to get 12, $frac{12}{2^2}=3.$ So, take $x= 2$ and $y= 1$.






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        The function is not onto because it can't take value zero. However if you take $B=C- { 0 }$, then it is onto. Simply observe that, by putting $x=0$, you can get all odd positive integers. For any even positive integer, divide it by maximum possible power of 2. Then you'll left with odd integer. Choose your $y$ accordingly. For example, if you want to get 12, $frac{12}{2^2}=3.$ So, take $x= 2$ and $y= 1$.







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