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Hi I am English learner.
Recently, I have a question.



There is a sentence:




He was selected chairman.




On this passive form, I think the word selected is a subject complement.
Therefore, He is subject and was is verb and selected is complement and chairman is complement as well.



Can we have two subject complements in one sentence?



On the other hand, Some people say that He is subject and was selected is verb and chairman is complement. But I don't agree this idea. Because I think that 'Was' is only verb and 'Selected' is complement.



FYI, someone say that selected chairman is adjective phrase.
What do you think that idea?
I searched this information in my country web but I couldn't find the information satisfying.
Please help me out. Thank you










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  • He was selected [x] is a passive construction. We selected him as the winner. He was selected the winner [by us].

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Hi I am English learner.
Recently, I have a question.



There is a sentence:




He was selected chairman.




On this passive form, I think the word selected is a subject complement.
Therefore, He is subject and was is verb and selected is complement and chairman is complement as well.



Can we have two subject complements in one sentence?



On the other hand, Some people say that He is subject and was selected is verb and chairman is complement. But I don't agree this idea. Because I think that 'Was' is only verb and 'Selected' is complement.



FYI, someone say that selected chairman is adjective phrase.
What do you think that idea?
I searched this information in my country web but I couldn't find the information satisfying.
Please help me out. Thank you










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    Welcome to the English Language Learners StackExchange! Thank you for setting out your question clearly with your thoughts on the matter and being specific about what you are trying to understand.

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  • He was selected [x] is a passive construction. We selected him as the winner. He was selected the winner [by us].

    – Lambie
    Feb 23 at 14:50














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Hi I am English learner.
Recently, I have a question.



There is a sentence:




He was selected chairman.




On this passive form, I think the word selected is a subject complement.
Therefore, He is subject and was is verb and selected is complement and chairman is complement as well.



Can we have two subject complements in one sentence?



On the other hand, Some people say that He is subject and was selected is verb and chairman is complement. But I don't agree this idea. Because I think that 'Was' is only verb and 'Selected' is complement.



FYI, someone say that selected chairman is adjective phrase.
What do you think that idea?
I searched this information in my country web but I couldn't find the information satisfying.
Please help me out. Thank you










share|improve this question
















Hi I am English learner.
Recently, I have a question.



There is a sentence:




He was selected chairman.




On this passive form, I think the word selected is a subject complement.
Therefore, He is subject and was is verb and selected is complement and chairman is complement as well.



Can we have two subject complements in one sentence?



On the other hand, Some people say that He is subject and was selected is verb and chairman is complement. But I don't agree this idea. Because I think that 'Was' is only verb and 'Selected' is complement.



FYI, someone say that selected chairman is adjective phrase.
What do you think that idea?
I searched this information in my country web but I couldn't find the information satisfying.
Please help me out. Thank you







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  • He was selected [x] is a passive construction. We selected him as the winner. He was selected the winner [by us].

    – Lambie
    Feb 23 at 14:50














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    Welcome to the English Language Learners StackExchange! Thank you for setting out your question clearly with your thoughts on the matter and being specific about what you are trying to understand.

    – SamBC
    Feb 23 at 13:48











  • He was selected [x] is a passive construction. We selected him as the winner. He was selected the winner [by us].

    – Lambie
    Feb 23 at 14:50








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Welcome to the English Language Learners StackExchange! Thank you for setting out your question clearly with your thoughts on the matter and being specific about what you are trying to understand.

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Welcome to the English Language Learners StackExchange! Thank you for setting out your question clearly with your thoughts on the matter and being specific about what you are trying to understand.

– SamBC
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He was selected [x] is a passive construction. We selected him as the winner. He was selected the winner [by us].

– Lambie
Feb 23 at 14:50





He was selected [x] is a passive construction. We selected him as the winner. He was selected the winner [by us].

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He was selected chairman.




The verb "selected" is part of a complement.



Here, "was" is the matrix clause predicator, which has the subordinate past-participial clause "selected chairman" as its complement. Within the complement clause, "chairman" is subject complement.



Note 1: A matrix clause is a clause within which a subordinate clause is embedded, e.g. in "I think she said he was ill", the matrix clause is "She said he was ill" in which the subordinate clause "he was ill" is embedded.



Note 2. "Selected" cannot be an adjective for several reasons: (1) It can’t be modified by “very”, like most adjectives can; (2) It can’t occur as complement to complex-intransitive verbs like become (we can’t say *"It became quite selected"); (3) It can’t occur as complement to complex-transitive verbs like "find" (we can't say *"I found it quite selected").



The range of expressions that can occur as pre-head modifier to a noun is very large and varied: we don't want to call them all adjectives. "Selected" has none of the properties of indisputable adjectives and hence cannot belong in that class.






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  • I think that interpretation/explanation might be more useful to someone studying English as a linguist, rather than someone trying to learn to use the language. I mean, it's fascinating, and for all I know correct, but you don't hear about matrix clauses much when you're just learning a language for practical purposes.

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    @SamBC I would say that the OP is pretty much into syntax, and hence should be aware of basic terminology like "matrix clause" (a clause that contains a subordinate clause).

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Select is a verb. Selected is both its past participle and its simple past form. The simple past passive is formed with the past tense of to be and the simple past of the verb being passivised. Thus, the simple past passive of "X selects him as chairman" is




He was selected chairman




So, we can see that the principal verb of your example sentence can be selected. Could it also be was?



Was and were are used with other verbs to form the past progressive or the past simple passive. They are also used with adjectives and nouns to show that the adjective or noun applied in the past, and depending on emphasis or context it might or might not still apply now. Selected can be an adjective, but it's not usually applied to a person that way. However, it can be applied to a position:




The chairman of the organisation is a selected position

He is the selected chairman




So there is the possibility of selected not being a verb here. If it were an adjective, it would be modifying chairman, rather than being a complement itself. 'Selected chairman' would become a noun phrase.



However, if that were a noun phrase, chairman would not be a mass (uncountable) noun; it is countable, and so it needs a quantifier or article. Either a or the could be appropriate, depending on circumstance, but as an example:




He was the selected chairman.




Chairman is still a noun in the situation where selected is a verb, but in that case is referring to the position as an abstract, and so it does not require an article.



In neither case is selected a complement. It is either the principal verb, or it is an adjective applied to chairman.



It is possible to make the intention of selected as a verb more explicit with one or more extra words:




He was selected as chairman

He was selected for the role of chairman




Essentially, however, how to parse this depends on context. "At the meeting, he was selected chairman" clearly has selected as the principal verb. It is describing an action that took place at the specified time. In other contexts, it may be otherwise.






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    Names are set by social conventions. If we called dogs "cats" and cats "dogs," there would be no difference in objective reality or in our understanding of objective reality.



    Language about language is a set of naming conventions.




    He was selected by them




    and




    They selected him




    mean exactly the same thing. We traditionally describe the difference in form by saying that the verb in the first sentence is in the passive voice and the verb in the second sentence is in the active voice. That is, the verb in the first voice is a verbal phrase consisting of some form of the verb "be" and a perfect participle.



    But, in English, participles can be used as adjectives. So we could describe English without reference to the passive voice by expanding the definition of subject complements instead. There would be nothing illogical in that. It would be just like calling dogs "cats" and cats "dogs." There are, however, two points to note.



    If you call dogs "cats" and cats "dogs" and no one else does, you will not be understood by others, nor will you understand others. You are ignoring the social, extra-individual aspect of language.



    Furthermore, if you sometimes call dogs "cats" and cats "dogs" and sometimes call dogs "dogs" and cats "cats," you will be apt to confuse yourself and certain to confuse others.



    If we chose to describe English by dispensing with the passive voice and by expanding the definition of subject complements, it would make no sense to refer to the passive form of subject complements because "passive" would have no meaning. In the traditional grammar, we analyze




    He was selected chairman




    as "He" is the subject, "was selected" is a passive verb, and "chairman" is a nominal predicate, a type of subject complement.






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      He was selected chairman.




      The verb "selected" is part of a complement.



      Here, "was" is the matrix clause predicator, which has the subordinate past-participial clause "selected chairman" as its complement. Within the complement clause, "chairman" is subject complement.



      Note 1: A matrix clause is a clause within which a subordinate clause is embedded, e.g. in "I think she said he was ill", the matrix clause is "She said he was ill" in which the subordinate clause "he was ill" is embedded.



      Note 2. "Selected" cannot be an adjective for several reasons: (1) It can’t be modified by “very”, like most adjectives can; (2) It can’t occur as complement to complex-intransitive verbs like become (we can’t say *"It became quite selected"); (3) It can’t occur as complement to complex-transitive verbs like "find" (we can't say *"I found it quite selected").



      The range of expressions that can occur as pre-head modifier to a noun is very large and varied: we don't want to call them all adjectives. "Selected" has none of the properties of indisputable adjectives and hence cannot belong in that class.






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      • I think that interpretation/explanation might be more useful to someone studying English as a linguist, rather than someone trying to learn to use the language. I mean, it's fascinating, and for all I know correct, but you don't hear about matrix clauses much when you're just learning a language for practical purposes.

        – SamBC
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        @SamBC I would say that the OP is pretty much into syntax, and hence should be aware of basic terminology like "matrix clause" (a clause that contains a subordinate clause).

        – BillJ
        Feb 23 at 14:51
















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      He was selected chairman.




      The verb "selected" is part of a complement.



      Here, "was" is the matrix clause predicator, which has the subordinate past-participial clause "selected chairman" as its complement. Within the complement clause, "chairman" is subject complement.



      Note 1: A matrix clause is a clause within which a subordinate clause is embedded, e.g. in "I think she said he was ill", the matrix clause is "She said he was ill" in which the subordinate clause "he was ill" is embedded.



      Note 2. "Selected" cannot be an adjective for several reasons: (1) It can’t be modified by “very”, like most adjectives can; (2) It can’t occur as complement to complex-intransitive verbs like become (we can’t say *"It became quite selected"); (3) It can’t occur as complement to complex-transitive verbs like "find" (we can't say *"I found it quite selected").



      The range of expressions that can occur as pre-head modifier to a noun is very large and varied: we don't want to call them all adjectives. "Selected" has none of the properties of indisputable adjectives and hence cannot belong in that class.






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      • I think that interpretation/explanation might be more useful to someone studying English as a linguist, rather than someone trying to learn to use the language. I mean, it's fascinating, and for all I know correct, but you don't hear about matrix clauses much when you're just learning a language for practical purposes.

        – SamBC
        Feb 23 at 14:47






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        @SamBC I would say that the OP is pretty much into syntax, and hence should be aware of basic terminology like "matrix clause" (a clause that contains a subordinate clause).

        – BillJ
        Feb 23 at 14:51














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      He was selected chairman.




      The verb "selected" is part of a complement.



      Here, "was" is the matrix clause predicator, which has the subordinate past-participial clause "selected chairman" as its complement. Within the complement clause, "chairman" is subject complement.



      Note 1: A matrix clause is a clause within which a subordinate clause is embedded, e.g. in "I think she said he was ill", the matrix clause is "She said he was ill" in which the subordinate clause "he was ill" is embedded.



      Note 2. "Selected" cannot be an adjective for several reasons: (1) It can’t be modified by “very”, like most adjectives can; (2) It can’t occur as complement to complex-intransitive verbs like become (we can’t say *"It became quite selected"); (3) It can’t occur as complement to complex-transitive verbs like "find" (we can't say *"I found it quite selected").



      The range of expressions that can occur as pre-head modifier to a noun is very large and varied: we don't want to call them all adjectives. "Selected" has none of the properties of indisputable adjectives and hence cannot belong in that class.






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      He was selected chairman.




      The verb "selected" is part of a complement.



      Here, "was" is the matrix clause predicator, which has the subordinate past-participial clause "selected chairman" as its complement. Within the complement clause, "chairman" is subject complement.



      Note 1: A matrix clause is a clause within which a subordinate clause is embedded, e.g. in "I think she said he was ill", the matrix clause is "She said he was ill" in which the subordinate clause "he was ill" is embedded.



      Note 2. "Selected" cannot be an adjective for several reasons: (1) It can’t be modified by “very”, like most adjectives can; (2) It can’t occur as complement to complex-intransitive verbs like become (we can’t say *"It became quite selected"); (3) It can’t occur as complement to complex-transitive verbs like "find" (we can't say *"I found it quite selected").



      The range of expressions that can occur as pre-head modifier to a noun is very large and varied: we don't want to call them all adjectives. "Selected" has none of the properties of indisputable adjectives and hence cannot belong in that class.







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      • I think that interpretation/explanation might be more useful to someone studying English as a linguist, rather than someone trying to learn to use the language. I mean, it's fascinating, and for all I know correct, but you don't hear about matrix clauses much when you're just learning a language for practical purposes.

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        @SamBC I would say that the OP is pretty much into syntax, and hence should be aware of basic terminology like "matrix clause" (a clause that contains a subordinate clause).

        – BillJ
        Feb 23 at 14:51



















      • I think that interpretation/explanation might be more useful to someone studying English as a linguist, rather than someone trying to learn to use the language. I mean, it's fascinating, and for all I know correct, but you don't hear about matrix clauses much when you're just learning a language for practical purposes.

        – SamBC
        Feb 23 at 14:47






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        @SamBC I would say that the OP is pretty much into syntax, and hence should be aware of basic terminology like "matrix clause" (a clause that contains a subordinate clause).

        – BillJ
        Feb 23 at 14:51

















      I think that interpretation/explanation might be more useful to someone studying English as a linguist, rather than someone trying to learn to use the language. I mean, it's fascinating, and for all I know correct, but you don't hear about matrix clauses much when you're just learning a language for practical purposes.

      – SamBC
      Feb 23 at 14:47





      I think that interpretation/explanation might be more useful to someone studying English as a linguist, rather than someone trying to learn to use the language. I mean, it's fascinating, and for all I know correct, but you don't hear about matrix clauses much when you're just learning a language for practical purposes.

      – SamBC
      Feb 23 at 14:47




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      @SamBC I would say that the OP is pretty much into syntax, and hence should be aware of basic terminology like "matrix clause" (a clause that contains a subordinate clause).

      – BillJ
      Feb 23 at 14:51





      @SamBC I would say that the OP is pretty much into syntax, and hence should be aware of basic terminology like "matrix clause" (a clause that contains a subordinate clause).

      – BillJ
      Feb 23 at 14:51













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      Select is a verb. Selected is both its past participle and its simple past form. The simple past passive is formed with the past tense of to be and the simple past of the verb being passivised. Thus, the simple past passive of "X selects him as chairman" is




      He was selected chairman




      So, we can see that the principal verb of your example sentence can be selected. Could it also be was?



      Was and were are used with other verbs to form the past progressive or the past simple passive. They are also used with adjectives and nouns to show that the adjective or noun applied in the past, and depending on emphasis or context it might or might not still apply now. Selected can be an adjective, but it's not usually applied to a person that way. However, it can be applied to a position:




      The chairman of the organisation is a selected position

      He is the selected chairman




      So there is the possibility of selected not being a verb here. If it were an adjective, it would be modifying chairman, rather than being a complement itself. 'Selected chairman' would become a noun phrase.



      However, if that were a noun phrase, chairman would not be a mass (uncountable) noun; it is countable, and so it needs a quantifier or article. Either a or the could be appropriate, depending on circumstance, but as an example:




      He was the selected chairman.




      Chairman is still a noun in the situation where selected is a verb, but in that case is referring to the position as an abstract, and so it does not require an article.



      In neither case is selected a complement. It is either the principal verb, or it is an adjective applied to chairman.



      It is possible to make the intention of selected as a verb more explicit with one or more extra words:




      He was selected as chairman

      He was selected for the role of chairman




      Essentially, however, how to parse this depends on context. "At the meeting, he was selected chairman" clearly has selected as the principal verb. It is describing an action that took place at the specified time. In other contexts, it may be otherwise.






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        Select is a verb. Selected is both its past participle and its simple past form. The simple past passive is formed with the past tense of to be and the simple past of the verb being passivised. Thus, the simple past passive of "X selects him as chairman" is




        He was selected chairman




        So, we can see that the principal verb of your example sentence can be selected. Could it also be was?



        Was and were are used with other verbs to form the past progressive or the past simple passive. They are also used with adjectives and nouns to show that the adjective or noun applied in the past, and depending on emphasis or context it might or might not still apply now. Selected can be an adjective, but it's not usually applied to a person that way. However, it can be applied to a position:




        The chairman of the organisation is a selected position

        He is the selected chairman




        So there is the possibility of selected not being a verb here. If it were an adjective, it would be modifying chairman, rather than being a complement itself. 'Selected chairman' would become a noun phrase.



        However, if that were a noun phrase, chairman would not be a mass (uncountable) noun; it is countable, and so it needs a quantifier or article. Either a or the could be appropriate, depending on circumstance, but as an example:




        He was the selected chairman.




        Chairman is still a noun in the situation where selected is a verb, but in that case is referring to the position as an abstract, and so it does not require an article.



        In neither case is selected a complement. It is either the principal verb, or it is an adjective applied to chairman.



        It is possible to make the intention of selected as a verb more explicit with one or more extra words:




        He was selected as chairman

        He was selected for the role of chairman




        Essentially, however, how to parse this depends on context. "At the meeting, he was selected chairman" clearly has selected as the principal verb. It is describing an action that took place at the specified time. In other contexts, it may be otherwise.






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          Select is a verb. Selected is both its past participle and its simple past form. The simple past passive is formed with the past tense of to be and the simple past of the verb being passivised. Thus, the simple past passive of "X selects him as chairman" is




          He was selected chairman




          So, we can see that the principal verb of your example sentence can be selected. Could it also be was?



          Was and were are used with other verbs to form the past progressive or the past simple passive. They are also used with adjectives and nouns to show that the adjective or noun applied in the past, and depending on emphasis or context it might or might not still apply now. Selected can be an adjective, but it's not usually applied to a person that way. However, it can be applied to a position:




          The chairman of the organisation is a selected position

          He is the selected chairman




          So there is the possibility of selected not being a verb here. If it were an adjective, it would be modifying chairman, rather than being a complement itself. 'Selected chairman' would become a noun phrase.



          However, if that were a noun phrase, chairman would not be a mass (uncountable) noun; it is countable, and so it needs a quantifier or article. Either a or the could be appropriate, depending on circumstance, but as an example:




          He was the selected chairman.




          Chairman is still a noun in the situation where selected is a verb, but in that case is referring to the position as an abstract, and so it does not require an article.



          In neither case is selected a complement. It is either the principal verb, or it is an adjective applied to chairman.



          It is possible to make the intention of selected as a verb more explicit with one or more extra words:




          He was selected as chairman

          He was selected for the role of chairman




          Essentially, however, how to parse this depends on context. "At the meeting, he was selected chairman" clearly has selected as the principal verb. It is describing an action that took place at the specified time. In other contexts, it may be otherwise.






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          Select is a verb. Selected is both its past participle and its simple past form. The simple past passive is formed with the past tense of to be and the simple past of the verb being passivised. Thus, the simple past passive of "X selects him as chairman" is




          He was selected chairman




          So, we can see that the principal verb of your example sentence can be selected. Could it also be was?



          Was and were are used with other verbs to form the past progressive or the past simple passive. They are also used with adjectives and nouns to show that the adjective or noun applied in the past, and depending on emphasis or context it might or might not still apply now. Selected can be an adjective, but it's not usually applied to a person that way. However, it can be applied to a position:




          The chairman of the organisation is a selected position

          He is the selected chairman




          So there is the possibility of selected not being a verb here. If it were an adjective, it would be modifying chairman, rather than being a complement itself. 'Selected chairman' would become a noun phrase.



          However, if that were a noun phrase, chairman would not be a mass (uncountable) noun; it is countable, and so it needs a quantifier or article. Either a or the could be appropriate, depending on circumstance, but as an example:




          He was the selected chairman.




          Chairman is still a noun in the situation where selected is a verb, but in that case is referring to the position as an abstract, and so it does not require an article.



          In neither case is selected a complement. It is either the principal verb, or it is an adjective applied to chairman.



          It is possible to make the intention of selected as a verb more explicit with one or more extra words:




          He was selected as chairman

          He was selected for the role of chairman




          Essentially, however, how to parse this depends on context. "At the meeting, he was selected chairman" clearly has selected as the principal verb. It is describing an action that took place at the specified time. In other contexts, it may be otherwise.







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              Names are set by social conventions. If we called dogs "cats" and cats "dogs," there would be no difference in objective reality or in our understanding of objective reality.



              Language about language is a set of naming conventions.




              He was selected by them




              and




              They selected him




              mean exactly the same thing. We traditionally describe the difference in form by saying that the verb in the first sentence is in the passive voice and the verb in the second sentence is in the active voice. That is, the verb in the first voice is a verbal phrase consisting of some form of the verb "be" and a perfect participle.



              But, in English, participles can be used as adjectives. So we could describe English without reference to the passive voice by expanding the definition of subject complements instead. There would be nothing illogical in that. It would be just like calling dogs "cats" and cats "dogs." There are, however, two points to note.



              If you call dogs "cats" and cats "dogs" and no one else does, you will not be understood by others, nor will you understand others. You are ignoring the social, extra-individual aspect of language.



              Furthermore, if you sometimes call dogs "cats" and cats "dogs" and sometimes call dogs "dogs" and cats "cats," you will be apt to confuse yourself and certain to confuse others.



              If we chose to describe English by dispensing with the passive voice and by expanding the definition of subject complements, it would make no sense to refer to the passive form of subject complements because "passive" would have no meaning. In the traditional grammar, we analyze




              He was selected chairman




              as "He" is the subject, "was selected" is a passive verb, and "chairman" is a nominal predicate, a type of subject complement.






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                Names are set by social conventions. If we called dogs "cats" and cats "dogs," there would be no difference in objective reality or in our understanding of objective reality.



                Language about language is a set of naming conventions.




                He was selected by them




                and




                They selected him




                mean exactly the same thing. We traditionally describe the difference in form by saying that the verb in the first sentence is in the passive voice and the verb in the second sentence is in the active voice. That is, the verb in the first voice is a verbal phrase consisting of some form of the verb "be" and a perfect participle.



                But, in English, participles can be used as adjectives. So we could describe English without reference to the passive voice by expanding the definition of subject complements instead. There would be nothing illogical in that. It would be just like calling dogs "cats" and cats "dogs." There are, however, two points to note.



                If you call dogs "cats" and cats "dogs" and no one else does, you will not be understood by others, nor will you understand others. You are ignoring the social, extra-individual aspect of language.



                Furthermore, if you sometimes call dogs "cats" and cats "dogs" and sometimes call dogs "dogs" and cats "cats," you will be apt to confuse yourself and certain to confuse others.



                If we chose to describe English by dispensing with the passive voice and by expanding the definition of subject complements, it would make no sense to refer to the passive form of subject complements because "passive" would have no meaning. In the traditional grammar, we analyze




                He was selected chairman




                as "He" is the subject, "was selected" is a passive verb, and "chairman" is a nominal predicate, a type of subject complement.






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                  Names are set by social conventions. If we called dogs "cats" and cats "dogs," there would be no difference in objective reality or in our understanding of objective reality.



                  Language about language is a set of naming conventions.




                  He was selected by them




                  and




                  They selected him




                  mean exactly the same thing. We traditionally describe the difference in form by saying that the verb in the first sentence is in the passive voice and the verb in the second sentence is in the active voice. That is, the verb in the first voice is a verbal phrase consisting of some form of the verb "be" and a perfect participle.



                  But, in English, participles can be used as adjectives. So we could describe English without reference to the passive voice by expanding the definition of subject complements instead. There would be nothing illogical in that. It would be just like calling dogs "cats" and cats "dogs." There are, however, two points to note.



                  If you call dogs "cats" and cats "dogs" and no one else does, you will not be understood by others, nor will you understand others. You are ignoring the social, extra-individual aspect of language.



                  Furthermore, if you sometimes call dogs "cats" and cats "dogs" and sometimes call dogs "dogs" and cats "cats," you will be apt to confuse yourself and certain to confuse others.



                  If we chose to describe English by dispensing with the passive voice and by expanding the definition of subject complements, it would make no sense to refer to the passive form of subject complements because "passive" would have no meaning. In the traditional grammar, we analyze




                  He was selected chairman




                  as "He" is the subject, "was selected" is a passive verb, and "chairman" is a nominal predicate, a type of subject complement.






                  share|improve this answer













                  Names are set by social conventions. If we called dogs "cats" and cats "dogs," there would be no difference in objective reality or in our understanding of objective reality.



                  Language about language is a set of naming conventions.




                  He was selected by them




                  and




                  They selected him




                  mean exactly the same thing. We traditionally describe the difference in form by saying that the verb in the first sentence is in the passive voice and the verb in the second sentence is in the active voice. That is, the verb in the first voice is a verbal phrase consisting of some form of the verb "be" and a perfect participle.



                  But, in English, participles can be used as adjectives. So we could describe English without reference to the passive voice by expanding the definition of subject complements instead. There would be nothing illogical in that. It would be just like calling dogs "cats" and cats "dogs." There are, however, two points to note.



                  If you call dogs "cats" and cats "dogs" and no one else does, you will not be understood by others, nor will you understand others. You are ignoring the social, extra-individual aspect of language.



                  Furthermore, if you sometimes call dogs "cats" and cats "dogs" and sometimes call dogs "dogs" and cats "cats," you will be apt to confuse yourself and certain to confuse others.



                  If we chose to describe English by dispensing with the passive voice and by expanding the definition of subject complements, it would make no sense to refer to the passive form of subject complements because "passive" would have no meaning. In the traditional grammar, we analyze




                  He was selected chairman




                  as "He" is the subject, "was selected" is a passive verb, and "chairman" is a nominal predicate, a type of subject complement.







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