Is the phrase professor emerita grammatically correct?
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Since professor has masculine gender, one may think that the phrase should be professor emeritus, regardless of the gender of the person referred to. Is the use of emerita simply a case of grammatical ignorance?
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Since professor has masculine gender, one may think that the phrase should be professor emeritus, regardless of the gender of the person referred to. Is the use of emerita simply a case of grammatical ignorance?
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In theory, the feminine of professor would be profestrix. However, this is a rather awkward formation, and isn't attested classically—the use of -trix on a dental-stem noun is incredibly rare in any period.
So most often, in my experience at least, the word professor is used for both the masculine and the feminine. If the professor is female, the noun is feminine, and thus takes a first-declension adjective like emerita. (For a Classical precedent, see gender-neutral third-declension nouns like homo and canis.)
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By that logic could a female member of the Homo Erectus genus be referred to as a Homo Erecta?
– Persistence
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@Persistence Scientific names generally don't change their form, but in Latin that wouldn't be incorrect: see this question for some examples of homo used for a woman.
– Draconis
11 hours ago
@Persistence It would be nice to have a separate question about that so people could find the answer easily.
– Joonas Ilmavirta♦
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To supplement the answer by Draconis, professor is what's called a common gender noun, at least in modern usage.
This means that the grammatical gender is not fixed, but depends on the semantic gender.
When referring to a male professor, professor is masculine, and feminine when referring to female.
I would consider it impolite in today's world to use professor as purely masculine word for professors of all genders.
The form professor emerita is correct.
While there is the feminine option profestrix emerita, this form is not really used.
The word profestrix is the Latin equivalent of the French professeure, but appears to be far less common.
Feminine forms such as doctrix and lectrix have been used and are in no way inappropriate for female academicians.
However, it appears to be more common to use the (seemingly) masculine words doctor, lector, and professor instead.
It seems women have been teaching since the origin of mediaeval universities. It would be interesting to find some written evidence of their titles. I had a go but failed. Maybe you are a better searcher than me.
– luchonacho
21 hours ago
@luchonacho I edited my answer a bit. This old question has an example which might be in the spirit of what you are looking for. I would be interested to see follow-up questions on the topic, though.
– Joonas Ilmavirta♦
19 hours ago
"I would consider it impolite in today's world to use professor as purely masculine word for professors of all genders." That is surely English specific. But can perhaps be extended to Latin.
– Vladimir F
18 hours ago
@VladimirF That is certainly a matter of opinion, and I was very conscious about prefacing it with "I would consider". But since Latin does not force professor to be exclusively masculine, I would find it inappropriate to treat it as exclusively masculine in this day and age. Different languages and different people might come to other conclusions.
– Joonas Ilmavirta♦
18 hours ago
@luchonacho magistra is classically attested. Considering that in medieval universities magister was the title for the highest teachers, that might be a better route to go.
– brianpck
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We normally distinguish between nouns of “common gender”, which can be used either as masculine or as feminine depending on the sex of the person or animal in question, and “epicene nouns", which have a fixed gender, but can refer to creatures of either sex. If “professor” is treated as epicene, then one would have to say “professor emeritus” for a person of either sex, at least in (Neo-)Latin.
In English there are no gendered forms for adjectives, so there is no reason not to say “emeritus professor” in reference to a woman in an English context.
In Germany there has been a heated debate over whether a female professor should be styled “Professor” or “Professorin”. In lecture lists of German universities you now normally find just “Prof.” - one way to dodge the question.
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In theory, the feminine of professor would be profestrix. However, this is a rather awkward formation, and isn't attested classically—the use of -trix on a dental-stem noun is incredibly rare in any period.
So most often, in my experience at least, the word professor is used for both the masculine and the feminine. If the professor is female, the noun is feminine, and thus takes a first-declension adjective like emerita. (For a Classical precedent, see gender-neutral third-declension nouns like homo and canis.)
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By that logic could a female member of the Homo Erectus genus be referred to as a Homo Erecta?
– Persistence
11 hours ago
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@Persistence Scientific names generally don't change their form, but in Latin that wouldn't be incorrect: see this question for some examples of homo used for a woman.
– Draconis
11 hours ago
@Persistence It would be nice to have a separate question about that so people could find the answer easily.
– Joonas Ilmavirta♦
2 hours ago
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In theory, the feminine of professor would be profestrix. However, this is a rather awkward formation, and isn't attested classically—the use of -trix on a dental-stem noun is incredibly rare in any period.
So most often, in my experience at least, the word professor is used for both the masculine and the feminine. If the professor is female, the noun is feminine, and thus takes a first-declension adjective like emerita. (For a Classical precedent, see gender-neutral third-declension nouns like homo and canis.)
1
By that logic could a female member of the Homo Erectus genus be referred to as a Homo Erecta?
– Persistence
11 hours ago
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@Persistence Scientific names generally don't change their form, but in Latin that wouldn't be incorrect: see this question for some examples of homo used for a woman.
– Draconis
11 hours ago
@Persistence It would be nice to have a separate question about that so people could find the answer easily.
– Joonas Ilmavirta♦
2 hours ago
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In theory, the feminine of professor would be profestrix. However, this is a rather awkward formation, and isn't attested classically—the use of -trix on a dental-stem noun is incredibly rare in any period.
So most often, in my experience at least, the word professor is used for both the masculine and the feminine. If the professor is female, the noun is feminine, and thus takes a first-declension adjective like emerita. (For a Classical precedent, see gender-neutral third-declension nouns like homo and canis.)
In theory, the feminine of professor would be profestrix. However, this is a rather awkward formation, and isn't attested classically—the use of -trix on a dental-stem noun is incredibly rare in any period.
So most often, in my experience at least, the word professor is used for both the masculine and the feminine. If the professor is female, the noun is feminine, and thus takes a first-declension adjective like emerita. (For a Classical precedent, see gender-neutral third-declension nouns like homo and canis.)
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By that logic could a female member of the Homo Erectus genus be referred to as a Homo Erecta?
– Persistence
11 hours ago
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@Persistence Scientific names generally don't change their form, but in Latin that wouldn't be incorrect: see this question for some examples of homo used for a woman.
– Draconis
11 hours ago
@Persistence It would be nice to have a separate question about that so people could find the answer easily.
– Joonas Ilmavirta♦
2 hours ago
add a comment |
1
By that logic could a female member of the Homo Erectus genus be referred to as a Homo Erecta?
– Persistence
11 hours ago
1
@Persistence Scientific names generally don't change their form, but in Latin that wouldn't be incorrect: see this question for some examples of homo used for a woman.
– Draconis
11 hours ago
@Persistence It would be nice to have a separate question about that so people could find the answer easily.
– Joonas Ilmavirta♦
2 hours ago
1
1
By that logic could a female member of the Homo Erectus genus be referred to as a Homo Erecta?
– Persistence
11 hours ago
By that logic could a female member of the Homo Erectus genus be referred to as a Homo Erecta?
– Persistence
11 hours ago
1
1
@Persistence Scientific names generally don't change their form, but in Latin that wouldn't be incorrect: see this question for some examples of homo used for a woman.
– Draconis
11 hours ago
@Persistence Scientific names generally don't change their form, but in Latin that wouldn't be incorrect: see this question for some examples of homo used for a woman.
– Draconis
11 hours ago
@Persistence It would be nice to have a separate question about that so people could find the answer easily.
– Joonas Ilmavirta♦
2 hours ago
@Persistence It would be nice to have a separate question about that so people could find the answer easily.
– Joonas Ilmavirta♦
2 hours ago
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To supplement the answer by Draconis, professor is what's called a common gender noun, at least in modern usage.
This means that the grammatical gender is not fixed, but depends on the semantic gender.
When referring to a male professor, professor is masculine, and feminine when referring to female.
I would consider it impolite in today's world to use professor as purely masculine word for professors of all genders.
The form professor emerita is correct.
While there is the feminine option profestrix emerita, this form is not really used.
The word profestrix is the Latin equivalent of the French professeure, but appears to be far less common.
Feminine forms such as doctrix and lectrix have been used and are in no way inappropriate for female academicians.
However, it appears to be more common to use the (seemingly) masculine words doctor, lector, and professor instead.
It seems women have been teaching since the origin of mediaeval universities. It would be interesting to find some written evidence of their titles. I had a go but failed. Maybe you are a better searcher than me.
– luchonacho
21 hours ago
@luchonacho I edited my answer a bit. This old question has an example which might be in the spirit of what you are looking for. I would be interested to see follow-up questions on the topic, though.
– Joonas Ilmavirta♦
19 hours ago
"I would consider it impolite in today's world to use professor as purely masculine word for professors of all genders." That is surely English specific. But can perhaps be extended to Latin.
– Vladimir F
18 hours ago
@VladimirF That is certainly a matter of opinion, and I was very conscious about prefacing it with "I would consider". But since Latin does not force professor to be exclusively masculine, I would find it inappropriate to treat it as exclusively masculine in this day and age. Different languages and different people might come to other conclusions.
– Joonas Ilmavirta♦
18 hours ago
@luchonacho magistra is classically attested. Considering that in medieval universities magister was the title for the highest teachers, that might be a better route to go.
– brianpck
17 hours ago
|
show 1 more comment
up vote
4
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To supplement the answer by Draconis, professor is what's called a common gender noun, at least in modern usage.
This means that the grammatical gender is not fixed, but depends on the semantic gender.
When referring to a male professor, professor is masculine, and feminine when referring to female.
I would consider it impolite in today's world to use professor as purely masculine word for professors of all genders.
The form professor emerita is correct.
While there is the feminine option profestrix emerita, this form is not really used.
The word profestrix is the Latin equivalent of the French professeure, but appears to be far less common.
Feminine forms such as doctrix and lectrix have been used and are in no way inappropriate for female academicians.
However, it appears to be more common to use the (seemingly) masculine words doctor, lector, and professor instead.
It seems women have been teaching since the origin of mediaeval universities. It would be interesting to find some written evidence of their titles. I had a go but failed. Maybe you are a better searcher than me.
– luchonacho
21 hours ago
@luchonacho I edited my answer a bit. This old question has an example which might be in the spirit of what you are looking for. I would be interested to see follow-up questions on the topic, though.
– Joonas Ilmavirta♦
19 hours ago
"I would consider it impolite in today's world to use professor as purely masculine word for professors of all genders." That is surely English specific. But can perhaps be extended to Latin.
– Vladimir F
18 hours ago
@VladimirF That is certainly a matter of opinion, and I was very conscious about prefacing it with "I would consider". But since Latin does not force professor to be exclusively masculine, I would find it inappropriate to treat it as exclusively masculine in this day and age. Different languages and different people might come to other conclusions.
– Joonas Ilmavirta♦
18 hours ago
@luchonacho magistra is classically attested. Considering that in medieval universities magister was the title for the highest teachers, that might be a better route to go.
– brianpck
17 hours ago
|
show 1 more comment
up vote
4
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up vote
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To supplement the answer by Draconis, professor is what's called a common gender noun, at least in modern usage.
This means that the grammatical gender is not fixed, but depends on the semantic gender.
When referring to a male professor, professor is masculine, and feminine when referring to female.
I would consider it impolite in today's world to use professor as purely masculine word for professors of all genders.
The form professor emerita is correct.
While there is the feminine option profestrix emerita, this form is not really used.
The word profestrix is the Latin equivalent of the French professeure, but appears to be far less common.
Feminine forms such as doctrix and lectrix have been used and are in no way inappropriate for female academicians.
However, it appears to be more common to use the (seemingly) masculine words doctor, lector, and professor instead.
To supplement the answer by Draconis, professor is what's called a common gender noun, at least in modern usage.
This means that the grammatical gender is not fixed, but depends on the semantic gender.
When referring to a male professor, professor is masculine, and feminine when referring to female.
I would consider it impolite in today's world to use professor as purely masculine word for professors of all genders.
The form professor emerita is correct.
While there is the feminine option profestrix emerita, this form is not really used.
The word profestrix is the Latin equivalent of the French professeure, but appears to be far less common.
Feminine forms such as doctrix and lectrix have been used and are in no way inappropriate for female academicians.
However, it appears to be more common to use the (seemingly) masculine words doctor, lector, and professor instead.
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It seems women have been teaching since the origin of mediaeval universities. It would be interesting to find some written evidence of their titles. I had a go but failed. Maybe you are a better searcher than me.
– luchonacho
21 hours ago
@luchonacho I edited my answer a bit. This old question has an example which might be in the spirit of what you are looking for. I would be interested to see follow-up questions on the topic, though.
– Joonas Ilmavirta♦
19 hours ago
"I would consider it impolite in today's world to use professor as purely masculine word for professors of all genders." That is surely English specific. But can perhaps be extended to Latin.
– Vladimir F
18 hours ago
@VladimirF That is certainly a matter of opinion, and I was very conscious about prefacing it with "I would consider". But since Latin does not force professor to be exclusively masculine, I would find it inappropriate to treat it as exclusively masculine in this day and age. Different languages and different people might come to other conclusions.
– Joonas Ilmavirta♦
18 hours ago
@luchonacho magistra is classically attested. Considering that in medieval universities magister was the title for the highest teachers, that might be a better route to go.
– brianpck
17 hours ago
|
show 1 more comment
It seems women have been teaching since the origin of mediaeval universities. It would be interesting to find some written evidence of their titles. I had a go but failed. Maybe you are a better searcher than me.
– luchonacho
21 hours ago
@luchonacho I edited my answer a bit. This old question has an example which might be in the spirit of what you are looking for. I would be interested to see follow-up questions on the topic, though.
– Joonas Ilmavirta♦
19 hours ago
"I would consider it impolite in today's world to use professor as purely masculine word for professors of all genders." That is surely English specific. But can perhaps be extended to Latin.
– Vladimir F
18 hours ago
@VladimirF That is certainly a matter of opinion, and I was very conscious about prefacing it with "I would consider". But since Latin does not force professor to be exclusively masculine, I would find it inappropriate to treat it as exclusively masculine in this day and age. Different languages and different people might come to other conclusions.
– Joonas Ilmavirta♦
18 hours ago
@luchonacho magistra is classically attested. Considering that in medieval universities magister was the title for the highest teachers, that might be a better route to go.
– brianpck
17 hours ago
It seems women have been teaching since the origin of mediaeval universities. It would be interesting to find some written evidence of their titles. I had a go but failed. Maybe you are a better searcher than me.
– luchonacho
21 hours ago
It seems women have been teaching since the origin of mediaeval universities. It would be interesting to find some written evidence of their titles. I had a go but failed. Maybe you are a better searcher than me.
– luchonacho
21 hours ago
@luchonacho I edited my answer a bit. This old question has an example which might be in the spirit of what you are looking for. I would be interested to see follow-up questions on the topic, though.
– Joonas Ilmavirta♦
19 hours ago
@luchonacho I edited my answer a bit. This old question has an example which might be in the spirit of what you are looking for. I would be interested to see follow-up questions on the topic, though.
– Joonas Ilmavirta♦
19 hours ago
"I would consider it impolite in today's world to use professor as purely masculine word for professors of all genders." That is surely English specific. But can perhaps be extended to Latin.
– Vladimir F
18 hours ago
"I would consider it impolite in today's world to use professor as purely masculine word for professors of all genders." That is surely English specific. But can perhaps be extended to Latin.
– Vladimir F
18 hours ago
@VladimirF That is certainly a matter of opinion, and I was very conscious about prefacing it with "I would consider". But since Latin does not force professor to be exclusively masculine, I would find it inappropriate to treat it as exclusively masculine in this day and age. Different languages and different people might come to other conclusions.
– Joonas Ilmavirta♦
18 hours ago
@VladimirF That is certainly a matter of opinion, and I was very conscious about prefacing it with "I would consider". But since Latin does not force professor to be exclusively masculine, I would find it inappropriate to treat it as exclusively masculine in this day and age. Different languages and different people might come to other conclusions.
– Joonas Ilmavirta♦
18 hours ago
@luchonacho magistra is classically attested. Considering that in medieval universities magister was the title for the highest teachers, that might be a better route to go.
– brianpck
17 hours ago
@luchonacho magistra is classically attested. Considering that in medieval universities magister was the title for the highest teachers, that might be a better route to go.
– brianpck
17 hours ago
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We normally distinguish between nouns of “common gender”, which can be used either as masculine or as feminine depending on the sex of the person or animal in question, and “epicene nouns", which have a fixed gender, but can refer to creatures of either sex. If “professor” is treated as epicene, then one would have to say “professor emeritus” for a person of either sex, at least in (Neo-)Latin.
In English there are no gendered forms for adjectives, so there is no reason not to say “emeritus professor” in reference to a woman in an English context.
In Germany there has been a heated debate over whether a female professor should be styled “Professor” or “Professorin”. In lecture lists of German universities you now normally find just “Prof.” - one way to dodge the question.
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We normally distinguish between nouns of “common gender”, which can be used either as masculine or as feminine depending on the sex of the person or animal in question, and “epicene nouns", which have a fixed gender, but can refer to creatures of either sex. If “professor” is treated as epicene, then one would have to say “professor emeritus” for a person of either sex, at least in (Neo-)Latin.
In English there are no gendered forms for adjectives, so there is no reason not to say “emeritus professor” in reference to a woman in an English context.
In Germany there has been a heated debate over whether a female professor should be styled “Professor” or “Professorin”. In lecture lists of German universities you now normally find just “Prof.” - one way to dodge the question.
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We normally distinguish between nouns of “common gender”, which can be used either as masculine or as feminine depending on the sex of the person or animal in question, and “epicene nouns", which have a fixed gender, but can refer to creatures of either sex. If “professor” is treated as epicene, then one would have to say “professor emeritus” for a person of either sex, at least in (Neo-)Latin.
In English there are no gendered forms for adjectives, so there is no reason not to say “emeritus professor” in reference to a woman in an English context.
In Germany there has been a heated debate over whether a female professor should be styled “Professor” or “Professorin”. In lecture lists of German universities you now normally find just “Prof.” - one way to dodge the question.
We normally distinguish between nouns of “common gender”, which can be used either as masculine or as feminine depending on the sex of the person or animal in question, and “epicene nouns", which have a fixed gender, but can refer to creatures of either sex. If “professor” is treated as epicene, then one would have to say “professor emeritus” for a person of either sex, at least in (Neo-)Latin.
In English there are no gendered forms for adjectives, so there is no reason not to say “emeritus professor” in reference to a woman in an English context.
In Germany there has been a heated debate over whether a female professor should be styled “Professor” or “Professorin”. In lecture lists of German universities you now normally find just “Prof.” - one way to dodge the question.
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