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I have this question where u are given 6 numbers with indices 1,2,3,4,5,6 and u are given the xor of these numbers in pair of 3.



$$x_1oplus x_2⊕x_3=a\
x_2⊕x_3⊕x_4=b\
x_3⊕x_4⊕x_5=c\
x_4⊕x_5⊕x_6=d\
x_5⊕x_6⊕x_1=e\
x_6⊕x_1⊕x_2=f$$



and we need to find all the six numbers. What i tried was to take xor of these triplets to get xor of any other pair (which worked for me for 4 and 5 numbers) but this method is not working for 6 numbers.



my attempt for n=4.



$$x_1⊕x_2⊕x_3=a\
x_2⊕x_3⊕x_4=b\
x_3⊕x_4⊕x_1=c\
x_4⊕x_1oplus x_2=d$$



$a⊕b⊕c$ gives me the 3rd number. Similarly we can get the rest of the numbers, but i cant figure out a solution for 6 numbers.










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    I have this question where u are given 6 numbers with indices 1,2,3,4,5,6 and u are given the xor of these numbers in pair of 3.



    $$x_1oplus x_2⊕x_3=a\
    x_2⊕x_3⊕x_4=b\
    x_3⊕x_4⊕x_5=c\
    x_4⊕x_5⊕x_6=d\
    x_5⊕x_6⊕x_1=e\
    x_6⊕x_1⊕x_2=f$$



    and we need to find all the six numbers. What i tried was to take xor of these triplets to get xor of any other pair (which worked for me for 4 and 5 numbers) but this method is not working for 6 numbers.



    my attempt for n=4.



    $$x_1⊕x_2⊕x_3=a\
    x_2⊕x_3⊕x_4=b\
    x_3⊕x_4⊕x_1=c\
    x_4⊕x_1oplus x_2=d$$



    $a⊕b⊕c$ gives me the 3rd number. Similarly we can get the rest of the numbers, but i cant figure out a solution for 6 numbers.










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      I have this question where u are given 6 numbers with indices 1,2,3,4,5,6 and u are given the xor of these numbers in pair of 3.



      $$x_1oplus x_2⊕x_3=a\
      x_2⊕x_3⊕x_4=b\
      x_3⊕x_4⊕x_5=c\
      x_4⊕x_5⊕x_6=d\
      x_5⊕x_6⊕x_1=e\
      x_6⊕x_1⊕x_2=f$$



      and we need to find all the six numbers. What i tried was to take xor of these triplets to get xor of any other pair (which worked for me for 4 and 5 numbers) but this method is not working for 6 numbers.



      my attempt for n=4.



      $$x_1⊕x_2⊕x_3=a\
      x_2⊕x_3⊕x_4=b\
      x_3⊕x_4⊕x_1=c\
      x_4⊕x_1oplus x_2=d$$



      $a⊕b⊕c$ gives me the 3rd number. Similarly we can get the rest of the numbers, but i cant figure out a solution for 6 numbers.










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      I have this question where u are given 6 numbers with indices 1,2,3,4,5,6 and u are given the xor of these numbers in pair of 3.



      $$x_1oplus x_2⊕x_3=a\
      x_2⊕x_3⊕x_4=b\
      x_3⊕x_4⊕x_5=c\
      x_4⊕x_5⊕x_6=d\
      x_5⊕x_6⊕x_1=e\
      x_6⊕x_1⊕x_2=f$$



      and we need to find all the six numbers. What i tried was to take xor of these triplets to get xor of any other pair (which worked for me for 4 and 5 numbers) but this method is not working for 6 numbers.



      my attempt for n=4.



      $$x_1⊕x_2⊕x_3=a\
      x_2⊕x_3⊕x_4=b\
      x_3⊕x_4⊕x_1=c\
      x_4⊕x_1oplus x_2=d$$



      $a⊕b⊕c$ gives me the 3rd number. Similarly we can get the rest of the numbers, but i cant figure out a solution for 6 numbers.







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          We have



          $$x_1 oplus x_2 oplus x_3 oplus x_4 oplus x_5 oplus x_6= aoplus d= b oplus e = c oplus f$$



          Hence, to be feasible, we require $$aoplus d= b oplus e = c oplus f.$$



          Suppose the system above holds, to solve the system, we first choose our desired $x_5$ and $x_6$ and solve for $x_4, x_3, x_2, x_1$ in that order.






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            You can't do that.



            Say, our xors of triplets are $(a,b,c,d,e,f)=(0,0,0,0,0,0)$. Can we guess what the numbers were?



            Why, sure: $(x_1,x_2,x_3,x_4,x_5,x_6)=(0,0,0,0,0,0)$.



            But wait, there is another solution: $(x_1,x_2,x_3,x_4,x_5,x_6)=(1,2,3,1,2,3)$. (Don't take my word for it! Check it yourself, make sure it works.)



            And there are many more: $(x_1,x_2,x_3,x_4,x_5,x_6)=(3,4,7,3,4,7)$... and so on.



            How can that be, might you ask? After all, we were able to solve the system for $n=4$ and $5$, weren't we?



            Well, it just turns out there is something peculiar about the number $6$ that makes it behave differently from $4$ and $5$. What is this trait I leave for you to discover.






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              for $6$ numbers you can try:
              begin{align*}
              x_1⊕x_2⊕x_3&=a\
              x_1⊕x_2⊕x_4&=b\
              x_3⊕x_4⊕x_5&=c\
              x_3⊕x_4⊕x_6&=d\
              x_5⊕x_6⊕x_1&=e\
              x_6⊕x_5⊕x_2&=f
              end{align*}

              there is actually a pattern, let me give another example:
              for $9$ numbers you can try:
              begin{align*}
              x_1⊕x_2⊕x_3&=a\
              x_1⊕x_2⊕x_4&=b\
              x_3⊕x_4⊕x_5&=c\
              x_3⊕x_4⊕x_6&=d\
              x_5⊕x_6⊕x_7&=e\
              x_6⊕x_7⊕x_8&=f\
              x_7⊕x_8⊕x_9&=g\
              x_8⊕x_9⊕x_1&=h\
              x_9⊕x_5⊕x_2&=i
              end{align*}






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                We have



                $$x_1 oplus x_2 oplus x_3 oplus x_4 oplus x_5 oplus x_6= aoplus d= b oplus e = c oplus f$$



                Hence, to be feasible, we require $$aoplus d= b oplus e = c oplus f.$$



                Suppose the system above holds, to solve the system, we first choose our desired $x_5$ and $x_6$ and solve for $x_4, x_3, x_2, x_1$ in that order.






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                  We have



                  $$x_1 oplus x_2 oplus x_3 oplus x_4 oplus x_5 oplus x_6= aoplus d= b oplus e = c oplus f$$



                  Hence, to be feasible, we require $$aoplus d= b oplus e = c oplus f.$$



                  Suppose the system above holds, to solve the system, we first choose our desired $x_5$ and $x_6$ and solve for $x_4, x_3, x_2, x_1$ in that order.






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                    We have



                    $$x_1 oplus x_2 oplus x_3 oplus x_4 oplus x_5 oplus x_6= aoplus d= b oplus e = c oplus f$$



                    Hence, to be feasible, we require $$aoplus d= b oplus e = c oplus f.$$



                    Suppose the system above holds, to solve the system, we first choose our desired $x_5$ and $x_6$ and solve for $x_4, x_3, x_2, x_1$ in that order.






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                    Guide:



                    We have



                    $$x_1 oplus x_2 oplus x_3 oplus x_4 oplus x_5 oplus x_6= aoplus d= b oplus e = c oplus f$$



                    Hence, to be feasible, we require $$aoplus d= b oplus e = c oplus f.$$



                    Suppose the system above holds, to solve the system, we first choose our desired $x_5$ and $x_6$ and solve for $x_4, x_3, x_2, x_1$ in that order.







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                        You can't do that.



                        Say, our xors of triplets are $(a,b,c,d,e,f)=(0,0,0,0,0,0)$. Can we guess what the numbers were?



                        Why, sure: $(x_1,x_2,x_3,x_4,x_5,x_6)=(0,0,0,0,0,0)$.



                        But wait, there is another solution: $(x_1,x_2,x_3,x_4,x_5,x_6)=(1,2,3,1,2,3)$. (Don't take my word for it! Check it yourself, make sure it works.)



                        And there are many more: $(x_1,x_2,x_3,x_4,x_5,x_6)=(3,4,7,3,4,7)$... and so on.



                        How can that be, might you ask? After all, we were able to solve the system for $n=4$ and $5$, weren't we?



                        Well, it just turns out there is something peculiar about the number $6$ that makes it behave differently from $4$ and $5$. What is this trait I leave for you to discover.






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                          You can't do that.



                          Say, our xors of triplets are $(a,b,c,d,e,f)=(0,0,0,0,0,0)$. Can we guess what the numbers were?



                          Why, sure: $(x_1,x_2,x_3,x_4,x_5,x_6)=(0,0,0,0,0,0)$.



                          But wait, there is another solution: $(x_1,x_2,x_3,x_4,x_5,x_6)=(1,2,3,1,2,3)$. (Don't take my word for it! Check it yourself, make sure it works.)



                          And there are many more: $(x_1,x_2,x_3,x_4,x_5,x_6)=(3,4,7,3,4,7)$... and so on.



                          How can that be, might you ask? After all, we were able to solve the system for $n=4$ and $5$, weren't we?



                          Well, it just turns out there is something peculiar about the number $6$ that makes it behave differently from $4$ and $5$. What is this trait I leave for you to discover.






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                            You can't do that.



                            Say, our xors of triplets are $(a,b,c,d,e,f)=(0,0,0,0,0,0)$. Can we guess what the numbers were?



                            Why, sure: $(x_1,x_2,x_3,x_4,x_5,x_6)=(0,0,0,0,0,0)$.



                            But wait, there is another solution: $(x_1,x_2,x_3,x_4,x_5,x_6)=(1,2,3,1,2,3)$. (Don't take my word for it! Check it yourself, make sure it works.)



                            And there are many more: $(x_1,x_2,x_3,x_4,x_5,x_6)=(3,4,7,3,4,7)$... and so on.



                            How can that be, might you ask? After all, we were able to solve the system for $n=4$ and $5$, weren't we?



                            Well, it just turns out there is something peculiar about the number $6$ that makes it behave differently from $4$ and $5$. What is this trait I leave for you to discover.






                            share|cite|improve this answer









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                            You can't do that.



                            Say, our xors of triplets are $(a,b,c,d,e,f)=(0,0,0,0,0,0)$. Can we guess what the numbers were?



                            Why, sure: $(x_1,x_2,x_3,x_4,x_5,x_6)=(0,0,0,0,0,0)$.



                            But wait, there is another solution: $(x_1,x_2,x_3,x_4,x_5,x_6)=(1,2,3,1,2,3)$. (Don't take my word for it! Check it yourself, make sure it works.)



                            And there are many more: $(x_1,x_2,x_3,x_4,x_5,x_6)=(3,4,7,3,4,7)$... and so on.



                            How can that be, might you ask? After all, we were able to solve the system for $n=4$ and $5$, weren't we?



                            Well, it just turns out there is something peculiar about the number $6$ that makes it behave differently from $4$ and $5$. What is this trait I leave for you to discover.







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                                for $6$ numbers you can try:
                                begin{align*}
                                x_1⊕x_2⊕x_3&=a\
                                x_1⊕x_2⊕x_4&=b\
                                x_3⊕x_4⊕x_5&=c\
                                x_3⊕x_4⊕x_6&=d\
                                x_5⊕x_6⊕x_1&=e\
                                x_6⊕x_5⊕x_2&=f
                                end{align*}

                                there is actually a pattern, let me give another example:
                                for $9$ numbers you can try:
                                begin{align*}
                                x_1⊕x_2⊕x_3&=a\
                                x_1⊕x_2⊕x_4&=b\
                                x_3⊕x_4⊕x_5&=c\
                                x_3⊕x_4⊕x_6&=d\
                                x_5⊕x_6⊕x_7&=e\
                                x_6⊕x_7⊕x_8&=f\
                                x_7⊕x_8⊕x_9&=g\
                                x_8⊕x_9⊕x_1&=h\
                                x_9⊕x_5⊕x_2&=i
                                end{align*}






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                                  $begingroup$

                                  for $6$ numbers you can try:
                                  begin{align*}
                                  x_1⊕x_2⊕x_3&=a\
                                  x_1⊕x_2⊕x_4&=b\
                                  x_3⊕x_4⊕x_5&=c\
                                  x_3⊕x_4⊕x_6&=d\
                                  x_5⊕x_6⊕x_1&=e\
                                  x_6⊕x_5⊕x_2&=f
                                  end{align*}

                                  there is actually a pattern, let me give another example:
                                  for $9$ numbers you can try:
                                  begin{align*}
                                  x_1⊕x_2⊕x_3&=a\
                                  x_1⊕x_2⊕x_4&=b\
                                  x_3⊕x_4⊕x_5&=c\
                                  x_3⊕x_4⊕x_6&=d\
                                  x_5⊕x_6⊕x_7&=e\
                                  x_6⊕x_7⊕x_8&=f\
                                  x_7⊕x_8⊕x_9&=g\
                                  x_8⊕x_9⊕x_1&=h\
                                  x_9⊕x_5⊕x_2&=i
                                  end{align*}






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                                    for $6$ numbers you can try:
                                    begin{align*}
                                    x_1⊕x_2⊕x_3&=a\
                                    x_1⊕x_2⊕x_4&=b\
                                    x_3⊕x_4⊕x_5&=c\
                                    x_3⊕x_4⊕x_6&=d\
                                    x_5⊕x_6⊕x_1&=e\
                                    x_6⊕x_5⊕x_2&=f
                                    end{align*}

                                    there is actually a pattern, let me give another example:
                                    for $9$ numbers you can try:
                                    begin{align*}
                                    x_1⊕x_2⊕x_3&=a\
                                    x_1⊕x_2⊕x_4&=b\
                                    x_3⊕x_4⊕x_5&=c\
                                    x_3⊕x_4⊕x_6&=d\
                                    x_5⊕x_6⊕x_7&=e\
                                    x_6⊕x_7⊕x_8&=f\
                                    x_7⊕x_8⊕x_9&=g\
                                    x_8⊕x_9⊕x_1&=h\
                                    x_9⊕x_5⊕x_2&=i
                                    end{align*}






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                                    for $6$ numbers you can try:
                                    begin{align*}
                                    x_1⊕x_2⊕x_3&=a\
                                    x_1⊕x_2⊕x_4&=b\
                                    x_3⊕x_4⊕x_5&=c\
                                    x_3⊕x_4⊕x_6&=d\
                                    x_5⊕x_6⊕x_1&=e\
                                    x_6⊕x_5⊕x_2&=f
                                    end{align*}

                                    there is actually a pattern, let me give another example:
                                    for $9$ numbers you can try:
                                    begin{align*}
                                    x_1⊕x_2⊕x_3&=a\
                                    x_1⊕x_2⊕x_4&=b\
                                    x_3⊕x_4⊕x_5&=c\
                                    x_3⊕x_4⊕x_6&=d\
                                    x_5⊕x_6⊕x_7&=e\
                                    x_6⊕x_7⊕x_8&=f\
                                    x_7⊕x_8⊕x_9&=g\
                                    x_8⊕x_9⊕x_1&=h\
                                    x_9⊕x_5⊕x_2&=i
                                    end{align*}







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