Testing for convergence in Infinite series with factorial in numerator
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I have the following infinite series that I need to test for convergence/divergence:
$$sum_{n=1}^{infty} frac{n!}{1 times 3 times 5 times cdots times (2n-1)}$$
I can see that the denominator will eventually blow up and surpass the numerator, and so it would seem that the series would converge, but I am not sure how to test this algebraically given the factorial in the numerator and the sequence in denominator. The recursive function for factorial $n! = n times (n-1)!$ doesn't seem to simplify things in this case, as I cannot eliminate the $(2n-1)$ in the denominator. Is there a way to find a general equation for the denominator such that I could perform convergence tests (e.g. by taking the integral, limit comparison, etc.)
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I have the following infinite series that I need to test for convergence/divergence:
$$sum_{n=1}^{infty} frac{n!}{1 times 3 times 5 times cdots times (2n-1)}$$
I can see that the denominator will eventually blow up and surpass the numerator, and so it would seem that the series would converge, but I am not sure how to test this algebraically given the factorial in the numerator and the sequence in denominator. The recursive function for factorial $n! = n times (n-1)!$ doesn't seem to simplify things in this case, as I cannot eliminate the $(2n-1)$ in the denominator. Is there a way to find a general equation for the denominator such that I could perform convergence tests (e.g. by taking the integral, limit comparison, etc.)
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This problem yells "ratio test" to me. And by the way, the numerator will also blow up. I hope you see that the bottom is (2n-1)! with half the terms missing. So twice as long with half the terms missing. What does your intuition say?
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– Fixed Point
May 2 '13 at 5:14
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I see now that $(2n-1)!!$ stands for odd numbered factorials. I did not know this until now, and I probably would have been lost for hours without this bit of knowledge!
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– dtg
May 2 '13 at 5:32
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No worries ;-) that is how we all learn. I still lose hours because of what I don't know.
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– Fixed Point
May 2 '13 at 6:01
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I have the following infinite series that I need to test for convergence/divergence:
$$sum_{n=1}^{infty} frac{n!}{1 times 3 times 5 times cdots times (2n-1)}$$
I can see that the denominator will eventually blow up and surpass the numerator, and so it would seem that the series would converge, but I am not sure how to test this algebraically given the factorial in the numerator and the sequence in denominator. The recursive function for factorial $n! = n times (n-1)!$ doesn't seem to simplify things in this case, as I cannot eliminate the $(2n-1)$ in the denominator. Is there a way to find a general equation for the denominator such that I could perform convergence tests (e.g. by taking the integral, limit comparison, etc.)
sequences-and-series factorial
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I have the following infinite series that I need to test for convergence/divergence:
$$sum_{n=1}^{infty} frac{n!}{1 times 3 times 5 times cdots times (2n-1)}$$
I can see that the denominator will eventually blow up and surpass the numerator, and so it would seem that the series would converge, but I am not sure how to test this algebraically given the factorial in the numerator and the sequence in denominator. The recursive function for factorial $n! = n times (n-1)!$ doesn't seem to simplify things in this case, as I cannot eliminate the $(2n-1)$ in the denominator. Is there a way to find a general equation for the denominator such that I could perform convergence tests (e.g. by taking the integral, limit comparison, etc.)
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edited May 2 '13 at 5:14
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This problem yells "ratio test" to me. And by the way, the numerator will also blow up. I hope you see that the bottom is (2n-1)! with half the terms missing. So twice as long with half the terms missing. What does your intuition say?
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– Fixed Point
May 2 '13 at 5:14
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I see now that $(2n-1)!!$ stands for odd numbered factorials. I did not know this until now, and I probably would have been lost for hours without this bit of knowledge!
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– dtg
May 2 '13 at 5:32
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No worries ;-) that is how we all learn. I still lose hours because of what I don't know.
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– Fixed Point
May 2 '13 at 6:01
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This problem yells "ratio test" to me. And by the way, the numerator will also blow up. I hope you see that the bottom is (2n-1)! with half the terms missing. So twice as long with half the terms missing. What does your intuition say?
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– Fixed Point
May 2 '13 at 5:14
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I see now that $(2n-1)!!$ stands for odd numbered factorials. I did not know this until now, and I probably would have been lost for hours without this bit of knowledge!
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– dtg
May 2 '13 at 5:32
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No worries ;-) that is how we all learn. I still lose hours because of what I don't know.
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– Fixed Point
May 2 '13 at 6:01
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This problem yells "ratio test" to me. And by the way, the numerator will also blow up. I hope you see that the bottom is (2n-1)! with half the terms missing. So twice as long with half the terms missing. What does your intuition say?
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– Fixed Point
May 2 '13 at 5:14
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This problem yells "ratio test" to me. And by the way, the numerator will also blow up. I hope you see that the bottom is (2n-1)! with half the terms missing. So twice as long with half the terms missing. What does your intuition say?
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– Fixed Point
May 2 '13 at 5:14
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I see now that $(2n-1)!!$ stands for odd numbered factorials. I did not know this until now, and I probably would have been lost for hours without this bit of knowledge!
$endgroup$
– dtg
May 2 '13 at 5:32
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I see now that $(2n-1)!!$ stands for odd numbered factorials. I did not know this until now, and I probably would have been lost for hours without this bit of knowledge!
$endgroup$
– dtg
May 2 '13 at 5:32
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No worries ;-) that is how we all learn. I still lose hours because of what I don't know.
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– Fixed Point
May 2 '13 at 6:01
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No worries ;-) that is how we all learn. I still lose hours because of what I don't know.
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– Fixed Point
May 2 '13 at 6:01
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Hint: Use the Ratio Test. No modification of the expression is needed.
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We have
$$a_n = dfrac{n!}{(2n-1)!!} = dfrac{n!}{(2n)!} times 2^n n! = dfrac{2^n}{dbinom{2n}n}$$
Use ratio test now to get that
$$dfrac{a_{n+1}}{a_n} = dfrac{2^{n+1}}{dbinom{2n+2}{n+1}} cdot dfrac{dbinom{2n}n}{2^n} = dfrac{2(n+1)(n+1)}{(2n+2)(2n+1)} = dfrac{n+1}{2n+1}$$
We can also use Stirling. From Stirling, we have
$$dbinom{2n}n sim dfrac{4^n}{sqrt{pi n}}$$
Use this to conclude, about the convergence/divergence of the series.
EDIT
$$1 times 3 times 5 times cdots times(2n-1) = dfrac{left( 1 times 3 times 5 times cdots times(2n-1) right) times left(2 times 4 times cdots times (2n)right)}{ left(2 times 4 times cdots times (2n)right)}$$
Now note that
$$left( 1 times 3 times 5 times cdots times(2n-1) right) times left(2 times 4 times cdots times (2n)right) = (2n)!$$
and
$$left(2 times 4 times cdots times (2n)right) = 2^n left(1 times 2 times cdots times nright) = 2^n n!$$
Hence,
$$1 times 3 times 5 times cdots times(2n-1) = dfrac{(2n)!}{2^n cdot n!}$$
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Yikes. It is not at all apparent how $frac{1}{(2n-1)!!}$ becomes $frac{2^{n}n!}{(2n)!}$
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– dtg
May 2 '13 at 5:38
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Soon it will be obvious. Put in the "missing" terms $2,4,6,8,dots,2n$. The product of what you just put in is $(2cdot 1)(2cdot 2)(2cdot 3)cdots(2cdot n)$, which is $(2^n)(n!)$.
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– André Nicolas
May 2 '13 at 5:48
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Also, is the parenthesis thing a binomial coefficient? I am not sure how to solve those. Sounds like I need to go back and do more studying on these ones.
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– dtg
May 2 '13 at 5:50
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I see now -- you have to divide out all the even numbered terms, which are represented by $(2^n)(n!)$. You guys make it sound as though it were so easy! Not so for people like me who suck at Math. Thanks.
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– dtg
May 2 '13 at 5:53
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Note that
$$
frac{n!}{(2n-1)!!}=frac11frac23frac35frac47cdotsfrac{n}{2n-1}
$$
For $nge2$, $dfrac{n}{2n-1}ledfrac23$. Thus, for $nge1$, we have
$$
frac{n!}{(2n-1)!!}leleft(frac23right)^{n-1}
$$
We can then compare with a geometric series.
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Hint: Use the Ratio Test. No modification of the expression is needed.
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Hint: Use the Ratio Test. No modification of the expression is needed.
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Hint: Use the Ratio Test. No modification of the expression is needed.
answered May 2 '13 at 5:15
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We have
$$a_n = dfrac{n!}{(2n-1)!!} = dfrac{n!}{(2n)!} times 2^n n! = dfrac{2^n}{dbinom{2n}n}$$
Use ratio test now to get that
$$dfrac{a_{n+1}}{a_n} = dfrac{2^{n+1}}{dbinom{2n+2}{n+1}} cdot dfrac{dbinom{2n}n}{2^n} = dfrac{2(n+1)(n+1)}{(2n+2)(2n+1)} = dfrac{n+1}{2n+1}$$
We can also use Stirling. From Stirling, we have
$$dbinom{2n}n sim dfrac{4^n}{sqrt{pi n}}$$
Use this to conclude, about the convergence/divergence of the series.
EDIT
$$1 times 3 times 5 times cdots times(2n-1) = dfrac{left( 1 times 3 times 5 times cdots times(2n-1) right) times left(2 times 4 times cdots times (2n)right)}{ left(2 times 4 times cdots times (2n)right)}$$
Now note that
$$left( 1 times 3 times 5 times cdots times(2n-1) right) times left(2 times 4 times cdots times (2n)right) = (2n)!$$
and
$$left(2 times 4 times cdots times (2n)right) = 2^n left(1 times 2 times cdots times nright) = 2^n n!$$
Hence,
$$1 times 3 times 5 times cdots times(2n-1) = dfrac{(2n)!}{2^n cdot n!}$$
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Yikes. It is not at all apparent how $frac{1}{(2n-1)!!}$ becomes $frac{2^{n}n!}{(2n)!}$
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– dtg
May 2 '13 at 5:38
1
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Soon it will be obvious. Put in the "missing" terms $2,4,6,8,dots,2n$. The product of what you just put in is $(2cdot 1)(2cdot 2)(2cdot 3)cdots(2cdot n)$, which is $(2^n)(n!)$.
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– André Nicolas
May 2 '13 at 5:48
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Also, is the parenthesis thing a binomial coefficient? I am not sure how to solve those. Sounds like I need to go back and do more studying on these ones.
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– dtg
May 2 '13 at 5:50
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I see now -- you have to divide out all the even numbered terms, which are represented by $(2^n)(n!)$. You guys make it sound as though it were so easy! Not so for people like me who suck at Math. Thanks.
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– dtg
May 2 '13 at 5:53
add a comment |
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We have
$$a_n = dfrac{n!}{(2n-1)!!} = dfrac{n!}{(2n)!} times 2^n n! = dfrac{2^n}{dbinom{2n}n}$$
Use ratio test now to get that
$$dfrac{a_{n+1}}{a_n} = dfrac{2^{n+1}}{dbinom{2n+2}{n+1}} cdot dfrac{dbinom{2n}n}{2^n} = dfrac{2(n+1)(n+1)}{(2n+2)(2n+1)} = dfrac{n+1}{2n+1}$$
We can also use Stirling. From Stirling, we have
$$dbinom{2n}n sim dfrac{4^n}{sqrt{pi n}}$$
Use this to conclude, about the convergence/divergence of the series.
EDIT
$$1 times 3 times 5 times cdots times(2n-1) = dfrac{left( 1 times 3 times 5 times cdots times(2n-1) right) times left(2 times 4 times cdots times (2n)right)}{ left(2 times 4 times cdots times (2n)right)}$$
Now note that
$$left( 1 times 3 times 5 times cdots times(2n-1) right) times left(2 times 4 times cdots times (2n)right) = (2n)!$$
and
$$left(2 times 4 times cdots times (2n)right) = 2^n left(1 times 2 times cdots times nright) = 2^n n!$$
Hence,
$$1 times 3 times 5 times cdots times(2n-1) = dfrac{(2n)!}{2^n cdot n!}$$
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Yikes. It is not at all apparent how $frac{1}{(2n-1)!!}$ becomes $frac{2^{n}n!}{(2n)!}$
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– dtg
May 2 '13 at 5:38
1
$begingroup$
Soon it will be obvious. Put in the "missing" terms $2,4,6,8,dots,2n$. The product of what you just put in is $(2cdot 1)(2cdot 2)(2cdot 3)cdots(2cdot n)$, which is $(2^n)(n!)$.
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– André Nicolas
May 2 '13 at 5:48
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Also, is the parenthesis thing a binomial coefficient? I am not sure how to solve those. Sounds like I need to go back and do more studying on these ones.
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– dtg
May 2 '13 at 5:50
$begingroup$
I see now -- you have to divide out all the even numbered terms, which are represented by $(2^n)(n!)$. You guys make it sound as though it were so easy! Not so for people like me who suck at Math. Thanks.
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– dtg
May 2 '13 at 5:53
add a comment |
$begingroup$
We have
$$a_n = dfrac{n!}{(2n-1)!!} = dfrac{n!}{(2n)!} times 2^n n! = dfrac{2^n}{dbinom{2n}n}$$
Use ratio test now to get that
$$dfrac{a_{n+1}}{a_n} = dfrac{2^{n+1}}{dbinom{2n+2}{n+1}} cdot dfrac{dbinom{2n}n}{2^n} = dfrac{2(n+1)(n+1)}{(2n+2)(2n+1)} = dfrac{n+1}{2n+1}$$
We can also use Stirling. From Stirling, we have
$$dbinom{2n}n sim dfrac{4^n}{sqrt{pi n}}$$
Use this to conclude, about the convergence/divergence of the series.
EDIT
$$1 times 3 times 5 times cdots times(2n-1) = dfrac{left( 1 times 3 times 5 times cdots times(2n-1) right) times left(2 times 4 times cdots times (2n)right)}{ left(2 times 4 times cdots times (2n)right)}$$
Now note that
$$left( 1 times 3 times 5 times cdots times(2n-1) right) times left(2 times 4 times cdots times (2n)right) = (2n)!$$
and
$$left(2 times 4 times cdots times (2n)right) = 2^n left(1 times 2 times cdots times nright) = 2^n n!$$
Hence,
$$1 times 3 times 5 times cdots times(2n-1) = dfrac{(2n)!}{2^n cdot n!}$$
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We have
$$a_n = dfrac{n!}{(2n-1)!!} = dfrac{n!}{(2n)!} times 2^n n! = dfrac{2^n}{dbinom{2n}n}$$
Use ratio test now to get that
$$dfrac{a_{n+1}}{a_n} = dfrac{2^{n+1}}{dbinom{2n+2}{n+1}} cdot dfrac{dbinom{2n}n}{2^n} = dfrac{2(n+1)(n+1)}{(2n+2)(2n+1)} = dfrac{n+1}{2n+1}$$
We can also use Stirling. From Stirling, we have
$$dbinom{2n}n sim dfrac{4^n}{sqrt{pi n}}$$
Use this to conclude, about the convergence/divergence of the series.
EDIT
$$1 times 3 times 5 times cdots times(2n-1) = dfrac{left( 1 times 3 times 5 times cdots times(2n-1) right) times left(2 times 4 times cdots times (2n)right)}{ left(2 times 4 times cdots times (2n)right)}$$
Now note that
$$left( 1 times 3 times 5 times cdots times(2n-1) right) times left(2 times 4 times cdots times (2n)right) = (2n)!$$
and
$$left(2 times 4 times cdots times (2n)right) = 2^n left(1 times 2 times cdots times nright) = 2^n n!$$
Hence,
$$1 times 3 times 5 times cdots times(2n-1) = dfrac{(2n)!}{2^n cdot n!}$$
edited May 2 '13 at 5:45
answered May 2 '13 at 5:14
user17762
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Yikes. It is not at all apparent how $frac{1}{(2n-1)!!}$ becomes $frac{2^{n}n!}{(2n)!}$
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– dtg
May 2 '13 at 5:38
1
$begingroup$
Soon it will be obvious. Put in the "missing" terms $2,4,6,8,dots,2n$. The product of what you just put in is $(2cdot 1)(2cdot 2)(2cdot 3)cdots(2cdot n)$, which is $(2^n)(n!)$.
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– André Nicolas
May 2 '13 at 5:48
$begingroup$
Also, is the parenthesis thing a binomial coefficient? I am not sure how to solve those. Sounds like I need to go back and do more studying on these ones.
$endgroup$
– dtg
May 2 '13 at 5:50
$begingroup$
I see now -- you have to divide out all the even numbered terms, which are represented by $(2^n)(n!)$. You guys make it sound as though it were so easy! Not so for people like me who suck at Math. Thanks.
$endgroup$
– dtg
May 2 '13 at 5:53
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Yikes. It is not at all apparent how $frac{1}{(2n-1)!!}$ becomes $frac{2^{n}n!}{(2n)!}$
$endgroup$
– dtg
May 2 '13 at 5:38
1
$begingroup$
Soon it will be obvious. Put in the "missing" terms $2,4,6,8,dots,2n$. The product of what you just put in is $(2cdot 1)(2cdot 2)(2cdot 3)cdots(2cdot n)$, which is $(2^n)(n!)$.
$endgroup$
– André Nicolas
May 2 '13 at 5:48
$begingroup$
Also, is the parenthesis thing a binomial coefficient? I am not sure how to solve those. Sounds like I need to go back and do more studying on these ones.
$endgroup$
– dtg
May 2 '13 at 5:50
$begingroup$
I see now -- you have to divide out all the even numbered terms, which are represented by $(2^n)(n!)$. You guys make it sound as though it were so easy! Not so for people like me who suck at Math. Thanks.
$endgroup$
– dtg
May 2 '13 at 5:53
$begingroup$
Yikes. It is not at all apparent how $frac{1}{(2n-1)!!}$ becomes $frac{2^{n}n!}{(2n)!}$
$endgroup$
– dtg
May 2 '13 at 5:38
$begingroup$
Yikes. It is not at all apparent how $frac{1}{(2n-1)!!}$ becomes $frac{2^{n}n!}{(2n)!}$
$endgroup$
– dtg
May 2 '13 at 5:38
1
1
$begingroup$
Soon it will be obvious. Put in the "missing" terms $2,4,6,8,dots,2n$. The product of what you just put in is $(2cdot 1)(2cdot 2)(2cdot 3)cdots(2cdot n)$, which is $(2^n)(n!)$.
$endgroup$
– André Nicolas
May 2 '13 at 5:48
$begingroup$
Soon it will be obvious. Put in the "missing" terms $2,4,6,8,dots,2n$. The product of what you just put in is $(2cdot 1)(2cdot 2)(2cdot 3)cdots(2cdot n)$, which is $(2^n)(n!)$.
$endgroup$
– André Nicolas
May 2 '13 at 5:48
$begingroup$
Also, is the parenthesis thing a binomial coefficient? I am not sure how to solve those. Sounds like I need to go back and do more studying on these ones.
$endgroup$
– dtg
May 2 '13 at 5:50
$begingroup$
Also, is the parenthesis thing a binomial coefficient? I am not sure how to solve those. Sounds like I need to go back and do more studying on these ones.
$endgroup$
– dtg
May 2 '13 at 5:50
$begingroup$
I see now -- you have to divide out all the even numbered terms, which are represented by $(2^n)(n!)$. You guys make it sound as though it were so easy! Not so for people like me who suck at Math. Thanks.
$endgroup$
– dtg
May 2 '13 at 5:53
$begingroup$
I see now -- you have to divide out all the even numbered terms, which are represented by $(2^n)(n!)$. You guys make it sound as though it were so easy! Not so for people like me who suck at Math. Thanks.
$endgroup$
– dtg
May 2 '13 at 5:53
add a comment |
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Note that
$$
frac{n!}{(2n-1)!!}=frac11frac23frac35frac47cdotsfrac{n}{2n-1}
$$
For $nge2$, $dfrac{n}{2n-1}ledfrac23$. Thus, for $nge1$, we have
$$
frac{n!}{(2n-1)!!}leleft(frac23right)^{n-1}
$$
We can then compare with a geometric series.
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add a comment |
$begingroup$
Note that
$$
frac{n!}{(2n-1)!!}=frac11frac23frac35frac47cdotsfrac{n}{2n-1}
$$
For $nge2$, $dfrac{n}{2n-1}ledfrac23$. Thus, for $nge1$, we have
$$
frac{n!}{(2n-1)!!}leleft(frac23right)^{n-1}
$$
We can then compare with a geometric series.
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Note that
$$
frac{n!}{(2n-1)!!}=frac11frac23frac35frac47cdotsfrac{n}{2n-1}
$$
For $nge2$, $dfrac{n}{2n-1}ledfrac23$. Thus, for $nge1$, we have
$$
frac{n!}{(2n-1)!!}leleft(frac23right)^{n-1}
$$
We can then compare with a geometric series.
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Note that
$$
frac{n!}{(2n-1)!!}=frac11frac23frac35frac47cdotsfrac{n}{2n-1}
$$
For $nge2$, $dfrac{n}{2n-1}ledfrac23$. Thus, for $nge1$, we have
$$
frac{n!}{(2n-1)!!}leleft(frac23right)^{n-1}
$$
We can then compare with a geometric series.
edited May 4 '13 at 0:51
answered May 3 '13 at 10:42
robjohn♦robjohn
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This problem yells "ratio test" to me. And by the way, the numerator will also blow up. I hope you see that the bottom is (2n-1)! with half the terms missing. So twice as long with half the terms missing. What does your intuition say?
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– Fixed Point
May 2 '13 at 5:14
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I see now that $(2n-1)!!$ stands for odd numbered factorials. I did not know this until now, and I probably would have been lost for hours without this bit of knowledge!
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– dtg
May 2 '13 at 5:32
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No worries ;-) that is how we all learn. I still lose hours because of what I don't know.
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– Fixed Point
May 2 '13 at 6:01