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Given $z_1,z_2,z_3 $ and $z_4$ are complex numbers, prove that the line joining $z_1,z_2$ and the line joining from $z_3,z_4$ are perpendicular iff $Re{(z_1-z_2)(bar z_3-bar z_4)}=0$. Try not to use polar form.



I try to start with writing $Re{(z_1-z_2)(bar z_3-bar z_4)}=Re{z_1bar z_3}-Re{z_1bar z_4}-Re{z_2bar z_3}+Re{z_2bar z_4}$ (I'm not sure if it's right)



Then how can I make use of the perpendicular condition? Any hints for the reverse direction, or I just have to reverse the argument?



Thank you!










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  • If $v$ and $w$ are orthogonal vectors then $vcdot w=0$. This is the definition of orthoganility.
    – Masacroso
    Oct 21 '16 at 8:08












  • how do we define dot product on a complex plane? And why do we have to take conjugate of $z_3$ and $z_4$?
    – mathshungry
    Oct 21 '16 at 9:28






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    The euclidean dot product on $Bbb C^n$ is defined as $$vcdot w:=sum_{k=1}^n v_k bar{w}_k$$ See the definition and characteristics of any dot product here.
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    Oct 21 '16 at 9:50

















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Given $z_1,z_2,z_3 $ and $z_4$ are complex numbers, prove that the line joining $z_1,z_2$ and the line joining from $z_3,z_4$ are perpendicular iff $Re{(z_1-z_2)(bar z_3-bar z_4)}=0$. Try not to use polar form.



I try to start with writing $Re{(z_1-z_2)(bar z_3-bar z_4)}=Re{z_1bar z_3}-Re{z_1bar z_4}-Re{z_2bar z_3}+Re{z_2bar z_4}$ (I'm not sure if it's right)



Then how can I make use of the perpendicular condition? Any hints for the reverse direction, or I just have to reverse the argument?



Thank you!










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  • If $v$ and $w$ are orthogonal vectors then $vcdot w=0$. This is the definition of orthoganility.
    – Masacroso
    Oct 21 '16 at 8:08












  • how do we define dot product on a complex plane? And why do we have to take conjugate of $z_3$ and $z_4$?
    – mathshungry
    Oct 21 '16 at 9:28






  • 1




    The euclidean dot product on $Bbb C^n$ is defined as $$vcdot w:=sum_{k=1}^n v_k bar{w}_k$$ See the definition and characteristics of any dot product here.
    – Masacroso
    Oct 21 '16 at 9:50















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Given $z_1,z_2,z_3 $ and $z_4$ are complex numbers, prove that the line joining $z_1,z_2$ and the line joining from $z_3,z_4$ are perpendicular iff $Re{(z_1-z_2)(bar z_3-bar z_4)}=0$. Try not to use polar form.



I try to start with writing $Re{(z_1-z_2)(bar z_3-bar z_4)}=Re{z_1bar z_3}-Re{z_1bar z_4}-Re{z_2bar z_3}+Re{z_2bar z_4}$ (I'm not sure if it's right)



Then how can I make use of the perpendicular condition? Any hints for the reverse direction, or I just have to reverse the argument?



Thank you!










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Given $z_1,z_2,z_3 $ and $z_4$ are complex numbers, prove that the line joining $z_1,z_2$ and the line joining from $z_3,z_4$ are perpendicular iff $Re{(z_1-z_2)(bar z_3-bar z_4)}=0$. Try not to use polar form.



I try to start with writing $Re{(z_1-z_2)(bar z_3-bar z_4)}=Re{z_1bar z_3}-Re{z_1bar z_4}-Re{z_2bar z_3}+Re{z_2bar z_4}$ (I'm not sure if it's right)



Then how can I make use of the perpendicular condition? Any hints for the reverse direction, or I just have to reverse the argument?



Thank you!







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  • If $v$ and $w$ are orthogonal vectors then $vcdot w=0$. This is the definition of orthoganility.
    – Masacroso
    Oct 21 '16 at 8:08












  • how do we define dot product on a complex plane? And why do we have to take conjugate of $z_3$ and $z_4$?
    – mathshungry
    Oct 21 '16 at 9:28






  • 1




    The euclidean dot product on $Bbb C^n$ is defined as $$vcdot w:=sum_{k=1}^n v_k bar{w}_k$$ See the definition and characteristics of any dot product here.
    – Masacroso
    Oct 21 '16 at 9:50




















  • If $v$ and $w$ are orthogonal vectors then $vcdot w=0$. This is the definition of orthoganility.
    – Masacroso
    Oct 21 '16 at 8:08












  • how do we define dot product on a complex plane? And why do we have to take conjugate of $z_3$ and $z_4$?
    – mathshungry
    Oct 21 '16 at 9:28






  • 1




    The euclidean dot product on $Bbb C^n$ is defined as $$vcdot w:=sum_{k=1}^n v_k bar{w}_k$$ See the definition and characteristics of any dot product here.
    – Masacroso
    Oct 21 '16 at 9:50


















If $v$ and $w$ are orthogonal vectors then $vcdot w=0$. This is the definition of orthoganility.
– Masacroso
Oct 21 '16 at 8:08






If $v$ and $w$ are orthogonal vectors then $vcdot w=0$. This is the definition of orthoganility.
– Masacroso
Oct 21 '16 at 8:08














how do we define dot product on a complex plane? And why do we have to take conjugate of $z_3$ and $z_4$?
– mathshungry
Oct 21 '16 at 9:28




how do we define dot product on a complex plane? And why do we have to take conjugate of $z_3$ and $z_4$?
– mathshungry
Oct 21 '16 at 9:28




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The euclidean dot product on $Bbb C^n$ is defined as $$vcdot w:=sum_{k=1}^n v_k bar{w}_k$$ See the definition and characteristics of any dot product here.
– Masacroso
Oct 21 '16 at 9:50






The euclidean dot product on $Bbb C^n$ is defined as $$vcdot w:=sum_{k=1}^n v_k bar{w}_k$$ See the definition and characteristics of any dot product here.
– Masacroso
Oct 21 '16 at 9:50












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Let $z_1-z_2=ae^{itheta}$ and $z_3-z_4=be^{iphi}$, then



$$(z_1-z_2)overline{(z_3-z_4)} = abe^{i(theta-phi)}$$
$$operatorname{Re}[(z_1-z_2)overline{(z_3-z_4)}] = abcos (theta-phi)$$
begin{align*}
operatorname{Re}[(z_1-z_2)overline{(z_3-z_4)}]=0
& iff cos (theta-phi) =0 \
& iff theta-phi=left(n+frac{1}{2} right) pi \
& iff (z_1-z_2)perp (z_3-z_4)
end{align*}



where $a$, $b> 0$






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    Let $z_1-z_2=ae^{itheta}$ and $z_3-z_4=be^{iphi}$, then



    $$(z_1-z_2)overline{(z_3-z_4)} = abe^{i(theta-phi)}$$
    $$operatorname{Re}[(z_1-z_2)overline{(z_3-z_4)}] = abcos (theta-phi)$$
    begin{align*}
    operatorname{Re}[(z_1-z_2)overline{(z_3-z_4)}]=0
    & iff cos (theta-phi) =0 \
    & iff theta-phi=left(n+frac{1}{2} right) pi \
    & iff (z_1-z_2)perp (z_3-z_4)
    end{align*}



    where $a$, $b> 0$






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      Let $z_1-z_2=ae^{itheta}$ and $z_3-z_4=be^{iphi}$, then



      $$(z_1-z_2)overline{(z_3-z_4)} = abe^{i(theta-phi)}$$
      $$operatorname{Re}[(z_1-z_2)overline{(z_3-z_4)}] = abcos (theta-phi)$$
      begin{align*}
      operatorname{Re}[(z_1-z_2)overline{(z_3-z_4)}]=0
      & iff cos (theta-phi) =0 \
      & iff theta-phi=left(n+frac{1}{2} right) pi \
      & iff (z_1-z_2)perp (z_3-z_4)
      end{align*}



      where $a$, $b> 0$






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        Let $z_1-z_2=ae^{itheta}$ and $z_3-z_4=be^{iphi}$, then



        $$(z_1-z_2)overline{(z_3-z_4)} = abe^{i(theta-phi)}$$
        $$operatorname{Re}[(z_1-z_2)overline{(z_3-z_4)}] = abcos (theta-phi)$$
        begin{align*}
        operatorname{Re}[(z_1-z_2)overline{(z_3-z_4)}]=0
        & iff cos (theta-phi) =0 \
        & iff theta-phi=left(n+frac{1}{2} right) pi \
        & iff (z_1-z_2)perp (z_3-z_4)
        end{align*}



        where $a$, $b> 0$






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        Let $z_1-z_2=ae^{itheta}$ and $z_3-z_4=be^{iphi}$, then



        $$(z_1-z_2)overline{(z_3-z_4)} = abe^{i(theta-phi)}$$
        $$operatorname{Re}[(z_1-z_2)overline{(z_3-z_4)}] = abcos (theta-phi)$$
        begin{align*}
        operatorname{Re}[(z_1-z_2)overline{(z_3-z_4)}]=0
        & iff cos (theta-phi) =0 \
        & iff theta-phi=left(n+frac{1}{2} right) pi \
        & iff (z_1-z_2)perp (z_3-z_4)
        end{align*}



        where $a$, $b> 0$







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