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The question is as follows:
$$y=x^2/(x+1)$$
The normal to this curve at $x=1$ meets the $x$-axis at point $M$.
The tangent to the curve at $x=-2$ meets the $y$-axis at point $N$.
Find the area of triangle $MNO$, where $O$ is the origin.
PS- this is not a school h.w so don't worry. And I did try....for a good 100 min...not even joking
EDIT - The drawing is NOT EXACT, it is just to give an idea.
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The question is as follows:
$$y=x^2/(x+1)$$
The normal to this curve at $x=1$ meets the $x$-axis at point $M$.
The tangent to the curve at $x=-2$ meets the $y$-axis at point $N$.
Find the area of triangle $MNO$, where $O$ is the origin.
PS- this is not a school h.w so don't worry. And I did try....for a good 100 min...not even joking
EDIT - The drawing is NOT EXACT, it is just to give an idea.
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Hint: draw a picture... and show us what you tried.
– Sean Roberson
Nov 17 at 0:43
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I found it hard to parse the original problem definitions of $M,N$. Please check my edit to make sure I did not unintentionally change your meaning.
– hardmath
Nov 17 at 0:57
@hardmath the edit's good,thanks :)
– Nabiha21
Nov 17 at 1:07
@SeanRoberson okayy...I actually didn't "draw",so that's a good suggestion
– Nabiha21
Nov 17 at 1:08
If you find the coordinates of $M,N$, you should easily compute the are of the triangle.
– hardmath
Nov 17 at 1:26
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The question is as follows:
$$y=x^2/(x+1)$$
The normal to this curve at $x=1$ meets the $x$-axis at point $M$.
The tangent to the curve at $x=-2$ meets the $y$-axis at point $N$.
Find the area of triangle $MNO$, where $O$ is the origin.
PS- this is not a school h.w so don't worry. And I did try....for a good 100 min...not even joking
EDIT - The drawing is NOT EXACT, it is just to give an idea.
calculus derivatives
The question is as follows:
$$y=x^2/(x+1)$$
The normal to this curve at $x=1$ meets the $x$-axis at point $M$.
The tangent to the curve at $x=-2$ meets the $y$-axis at point $N$.
Find the area of triangle $MNO$, where $O$ is the origin.
PS- this is not a school h.w so don't worry. And I did try....for a good 100 min...not even joking
EDIT - The drawing is NOT EXACT, it is just to give an idea.
calculus derivatives
calculus derivatives
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NoChance
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Hint: draw a picture... and show us what you tried.
– Sean Roberson
Nov 17 at 0:43
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I found it hard to parse the original problem definitions of $M,N$. Please check my edit to make sure I did not unintentionally change your meaning.
– hardmath
Nov 17 at 0:57
@hardmath the edit's good,thanks :)
– Nabiha21
Nov 17 at 1:07
@SeanRoberson okayy...I actually didn't "draw",so that's a good suggestion
– Nabiha21
Nov 17 at 1:08
If you find the coordinates of $M,N$, you should easily compute the are of the triangle.
– hardmath
Nov 17 at 1:26
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Hint: draw a picture... and show us what you tried.
– Sean Roberson
Nov 17 at 0:43
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I found it hard to parse the original problem definitions of $M,N$. Please check my edit to make sure I did not unintentionally change your meaning.
– hardmath
Nov 17 at 0:57
@hardmath the edit's good,thanks :)
– Nabiha21
Nov 17 at 1:07
@SeanRoberson okayy...I actually didn't "draw",so that's a good suggestion
– Nabiha21
Nov 17 at 1:08
If you find the coordinates of $M,N$, you should easily compute the are of the triangle.
– hardmath
Nov 17 at 1:26
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Hint: draw a picture... and show us what you tried.
– Sean Roberson
Nov 17 at 0:43
Hint: draw a picture... and show us what you tried.
– Sean Roberson
Nov 17 at 0:43
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I found it hard to parse the original problem definitions of $M,N$. Please check my edit to make sure I did not unintentionally change your meaning.
– hardmath
Nov 17 at 0:57
I found it hard to parse the original problem definitions of $M,N$. Please check my edit to make sure I did not unintentionally change your meaning.
– hardmath
Nov 17 at 0:57
@hardmath the edit's good,thanks :)
– Nabiha21
Nov 17 at 1:07
@hardmath the edit's good,thanks :)
– Nabiha21
Nov 17 at 1:07
@SeanRoberson okayy...I actually didn't "draw",so that's a good suggestion
– Nabiha21
Nov 17 at 1:08
@SeanRoberson okayy...I actually didn't "draw",so that's a good suggestion
– Nabiha21
Nov 17 at 1:08
If you find the coordinates of $M,N$, you should easily compute the are of the triangle.
– hardmath
Nov 17 at 1:26
If you find the coordinates of $M,N$, you should easily compute the are of the triangle.
– hardmath
Nov 17 at 1:26
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$y(x) = dfrac{x^2}{x + 1} = (x + 1)^{-1}x^2; tag 1$
$y'(x) = -(x + 1)^{-2}x^2 + 2x(x + 1)^{-1} = -(x + 1)^{-2}x^2 + 2x(x + 1)(x + 1)^{-2}$
$= -(x + 1)^{-2}x^2 + (2x^2 + 2x)(x + 1)^{-2} = (x^2 + 2x)(x + 1)^{-2} = dfrac{x^2 + 2x}{(x + 1)^2}; tag 2$
$y(1) = dfrac{1}{2}; ; y'(1) = dfrac{3}{4}; tag 3$
$y(-2) = -4; ; y'(-2) = 0; tag 4$
the slope of the normal line through $(1, y(1)) = (1, 1/2)$ is then
$m = -dfrac{1}{y'(1)} = -dfrac{4}{3}; tag 5$
the equation of the normal line through $(1, 1/2)$ is thus
$y - dfrac{1}{2} = -dfrac{4}{3}(x - 1), tag 6$
which meets the $x$-axis where $y = 0$:
$-dfrac{1}{2} = -dfrac{4}{3}(x - 1) Longrightarrow x = dfrac{3}{8} + 1 = dfrac{11}{8}; tag 7$
thus,
$M = left (dfrac{11}{8}, 0 right); tag 8$
likewise, the tangent line through $(-2, y(-2)) = (-2, -4)$ is
$y + 4 = 0(x + 2) = 0, tag 9$
which intersects the $y$-axis where $x = 0$, with $y$-coordinate given by
$y + 4 = 0 Longrightarrow y = -4, tag{10}$
and so
$N = left (0, -4 right ); tag{11}$
the area $A$ of $triangle MNO$ is thus
$A = dfrac{1}{2}ON cdot OM = dfrac{1}{2} 4 cdot dfrac{11}{8} = dfrac{11}{4}. tag{12}$
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Given $y=x^2/(x+1)$, and $f'(frac{u}v) = (u'v-v'u)/v^2 $
$$y' = frac{2x(x+1)-(x^2)}{(x^2+1)^2} = frac{x^2+2x}{(x+1)^2}$$
The normal line's slope is $-frac1{y'}=-frac{(x+1)^2}{x^2+2x}$. For the function, $y(1) = frac12$ and $y(-2)=-4$
The slope of the normal through $(1,frac12)$ is $-frac43$, so the line is $y_1=-frac43(x-1)+frac12$. This has an x-intercept of $x-1=frac34 cdot frac12 to x=frac{11}8$.
The slope of the tangent through $(-2,-4)$ is $0$, so the y-intercept will be $-4$.
The triangle now has a base $|M-0|$ of $frac{11}8$ and a height $|N-0|$ of $4$.
Area = $$frac12 bh=frac{1*11*4}{2*8*1}=frac{11}4$$
how did u know the slope of the tangent through (−2,−4) is 0?
– Nabiha21
Nov 17 at 2:24
The tangement does not have to be horizontal - See: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tangent
– NoChance
Nov 17 at 2:24
@Nabiha21, because when you put $x = -2$ in the $y'$ equation, you get $0$
– Sauhard Sharma
Nov 17 at 2:25
@Ohhh, I get it all now, I had incorrectly used 3/4 as the tangent's gradient xD Ithanksss everybody<3
– Nabiha21
Nov 17 at 2:30
@NoChance The tangent, by definition, must touch the curve at one and only one point. Had the line not been flat, the tangent would have intersected the function twice. Because the tangent to a function at a point has the same slope as the derivative of the function at that point, and because the derivative at that point is zero, the tangent line will have a slope of zero, i.e., it will be flat. True the tangent doesn't have to be horizontal, but in this case, it is.
– Christopher Marley
Nov 18 at 6:07
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$y(x) = dfrac{x^2}{x + 1} = (x + 1)^{-1}x^2; tag 1$
$y'(x) = -(x + 1)^{-2}x^2 + 2x(x + 1)^{-1} = -(x + 1)^{-2}x^2 + 2x(x + 1)(x + 1)^{-2}$
$= -(x + 1)^{-2}x^2 + (2x^2 + 2x)(x + 1)^{-2} = (x^2 + 2x)(x + 1)^{-2} = dfrac{x^2 + 2x}{(x + 1)^2}; tag 2$
$y(1) = dfrac{1}{2}; ; y'(1) = dfrac{3}{4}; tag 3$
$y(-2) = -4; ; y'(-2) = 0; tag 4$
the slope of the normal line through $(1, y(1)) = (1, 1/2)$ is then
$m = -dfrac{1}{y'(1)} = -dfrac{4}{3}; tag 5$
the equation of the normal line through $(1, 1/2)$ is thus
$y - dfrac{1}{2} = -dfrac{4}{3}(x - 1), tag 6$
which meets the $x$-axis where $y = 0$:
$-dfrac{1}{2} = -dfrac{4}{3}(x - 1) Longrightarrow x = dfrac{3}{8} + 1 = dfrac{11}{8}; tag 7$
thus,
$M = left (dfrac{11}{8}, 0 right); tag 8$
likewise, the tangent line through $(-2, y(-2)) = (-2, -4)$ is
$y + 4 = 0(x + 2) = 0, tag 9$
which intersects the $y$-axis where $x = 0$, with $y$-coordinate given by
$y + 4 = 0 Longrightarrow y = -4, tag{10}$
and so
$N = left (0, -4 right ); tag{11}$
the area $A$ of $triangle MNO$ is thus
$A = dfrac{1}{2}ON cdot OM = dfrac{1}{2} 4 cdot dfrac{11}{8} = dfrac{11}{4}. tag{12}$
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$y(x) = dfrac{x^2}{x + 1} = (x + 1)^{-1}x^2; tag 1$
$y'(x) = -(x + 1)^{-2}x^2 + 2x(x + 1)^{-1} = -(x + 1)^{-2}x^2 + 2x(x + 1)(x + 1)^{-2}$
$= -(x + 1)^{-2}x^2 + (2x^2 + 2x)(x + 1)^{-2} = (x^2 + 2x)(x + 1)^{-2} = dfrac{x^2 + 2x}{(x + 1)^2}; tag 2$
$y(1) = dfrac{1}{2}; ; y'(1) = dfrac{3}{4}; tag 3$
$y(-2) = -4; ; y'(-2) = 0; tag 4$
the slope of the normal line through $(1, y(1)) = (1, 1/2)$ is then
$m = -dfrac{1}{y'(1)} = -dfrac{4}{3}; tag 5$
the equation of the normal line through $(1, 1/2)$ is thus
$y - dfrac{1}{2} = -dfrac{4}{3}(x - 1), tag 6$
which meets the $x$-axis where $y = 0$:
$-dfrac{1}{2} = -dfrac{4}{3}(x - 1) Longrightarrow x = dfrac{3}{8} + 1 = dfrac{11}{8}; tag 7$
thus,
$M = left (dfrac{11}{8}, 0 right); tag 8$
likewise, the tangent line through $(-2, y(-2)) = (-2, -4)$ is
$y + 4 = 0(x + 2) = 0, tag 9$
which intersects the $y$-axis where $x = 0$, with $y$-coordinate given by
$y + 4 = 0 Longrightarrow y = -4, tag{10}$
and so
$N = left (0, -4 right ); tag{11}$
the area $A$ of $triangle MNO$ is thus
$A = dfrac{1}{2}ON cdot OM = dfrac{1}{2} 4 cdot dfrac{11}{8} = dfrac{11}{4}. tag{12}$
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$y(x) = dfrac{x^2}{x + 1} = (x + 1)^{-1}x^2; tag 1$
$y'(x) = -(x + 1)^{-2}x^2 + 2x(x + 1)^{-1} = -(x + 1)^{-2}x^2 + 2x(x + 1)(x + 1)^{-2}$
$= -(x + 1)^{-2}x^2 + (2x^2 + 2x)(x + 1)^{-2} = (x^2 + 2x)(x + 1)^{-2} = dfrac{x^2 + 2x}{(x + 1)^2}; tag 2$
$y(1) = dfrac{1}{2}; ; y'(1) = dfrac{3}{4}; tag 3$
$y(-2) = -4; ; y'(-2) = 0; tag 4$
the slope of the normal line through $(1, y(1)) = (1, 1/2)$ is then
$m = -dfrac{1}{y'(1)} = -dfrac{4}{3}; tag 5$
the equation of the normal line through $(1, 1/2)$ is thus
$y - dfrac{1}{2} = -dfrac{4}{3}(x - 1), tag 6$
which meets the $x$-axis where $y = 0$:
$-dfrac{1}{2} = -dfrac{4}{3}(x - 1) Longrightarrow x = dfrac{3}{8} + 1 = dfrac{11}{8}; tag 7$
thus,
$M = left (dfrac{11}{8}, 0 right); tag 8$
likewise, the tangent line through $(-2, y(-2)) = (-2, -4)$ is
$y + 4 = 0(x + 2) = 0, tag 9$
which intersects the $y$-axis where $x = 0$, with $y$-coordinate given by
$y + 4 = 0 Longrightarrow y = -4, tag{10}$
and so
$N = left (0, -4 right ); tag{11}$
the area $A$ of $triangle MNO$ is thus
$A = dfrac{1}{2}ON cdot OM = dfrac{1}{2} 4 cdot dfrac{11}{8} = dfrac{11}{4}. tag{12}$
$y(x) = dfrac{x^2}{x + 1} = (x + 1)^{-1}x^2; tag 1$
$y'(x) = -(x + 1)^{-2}x^2 + 2x(x + 1)^{-1} = -(x + 1)^{-2}x^2 + 2x(x + 1)(x + 1)^{-2}$
$= -(x + 1)^{-2}x^2 + (2x^2 + 2x)(x + 1)^{-2} = (x^2 + 2x)(x + 1)^{-2} = dfrac{x^2 + 2x}{(x + 1)^2}; tag 2$
$y(1) = dfrac{1}{2}; ; y'(1) = dfrac{3}{4}; tag 3$
$y(-2) = -4; ; y'(-2) = 0; tag 4$
the slope of the normal line through $(1, y(1)) = (1, 1/2)$ is then
$m = -dfrac{1}{y'(1)} = -dfrac{4}{3}; tag 5$
the equation of the normal line through $(1, 1/2)$ is thus
$y - dfrac{1}{2} = -dfrac{4}{3}(x - 1), tag 6$
which meets the $x$-axis where $y = 0$:
$-dfrac{1}{2} = -dfrac{4}{3}(x - 1) Longrightarrow x = dfrac{3}{8} + 1 = dfrac{11}{8}; tag 7$
thus,
$M = left (dfrac{11}{8}, 0 right); tag 8$
likewise, the tangent line through $(-2, y(-2)) = (-2, -4)$ is
$y + 4 = 0(x + 2) = 0, tag 9$
which intersects the $y$-axis where $x = 0$, with $y$-coordinate given by
$y + 4 = 0 Longrightarrow y = -4, tag{10}$
and so
$N = left (0, -4 right ); tag{11}$
the area $A$ of $triangle MNO$ is thus
$A = dfrac{1}{2}ON cdot OM = dfrac{1}{2} 4 cdot dfrac{11}{8} = dfrac{11}{4}. tag{12}$
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Given $y=x^2/(x+1)$, and $f'(frac{u}v) = (u'v-v'u)/v^2 $
$$y' = frac{2x(x+1)-(x^2)}{(x^2+1)^2} = frac{x^2+2x}{(x+1)^2}$$
The normal line's slope is $-frac1{y'}=-frac{(x+1)^2}{x^2+2x}$. For the function, $y(1) = frac12$ and $y(-2)=-4$
The slope of the normal through $(1,frac12)$ is $-frac43$, so the line is $y_1=-frac43(x-1)+frac12$. This has an x-intercept of $x-1=frac34 cdot frac12 to x=frac{11}8$.
The slope of the tangent through $(-2,-4)$ is $0$, so the y-intercept will be $-4$.
The triangle now has a base $|M-0|$ of $frac{11}8$ and a height $|N-0|$ of $4$.
Area = $$frac12 bh=frac{1*11*4}{2*8*1}=frac{11}4$$
how did u know the slope of the tangent through (−2,−4) is 0?
– Nabiha21
Nov 17 at 2:24
The tangement does not have to be horizontal - See: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tangent
– NoChance
Nov 17 at 2:24
@Nabiha21, because when you put $x = -2$ in the $y'$ equation, you get $0$
– Sauhard Sharma
Nov 17 at 2:25
@Ohhh, I get it all now, I had incorrectly used 3/4 as the tangent's gradient xD Ithanksss everybody<3
– Nabiha21
Nov 17 at 2:30
@NoChance The tangent, by definition, must touch the curve at one and only one point. Had the line not been flat, the tangent would have intersected the function twice. Because the tangent to a function at a point has the same slope as the derivative of the function at that point, and because the derivative at that point is zero, the tangent line will have a slope of zero, i.e., it will be flat. True the tangent doesn't have to be horizontal, but in this case, it is.
– Christopher Marley
Nov 18 at 6:07
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Given $y=x^2/(x+1)$, and $f'(frac{u}v) = (u'v-v'u)/v^2 $
$$y' = frac{2x(x+1)-(x^2)}{(x^2+1)^2} = frac{x^2+2x}{(x+1)^2}$$
The normal line's slope is $-frac1{y'}=-frac{(x+1)^2}{x^2+2x}$. For the function, $y(1) = frac12$ and $y(-2)=-4$
The slope of the normal through $(1,frac12)$ is $-frac43$, so the line is $y_1=-frac43(x-1)+frac12$. This has an x-intercept of $x-1=frac34 cdot frac12 to x=frac{11}8$.
The slope of the tangent through $(-2,-4)$ is $0$, so the y-intercept will be $-4$.
The triangle now has a base $|M-0|$ of $frac{11}8$ and a height $|N-0|$ of $4$.
Area = $$frac12 bh=frac{1*11*4}{2*8*1}=frac{11}4$$
how did u know the slope of the tangent through (−2,−4) is 0?
– Nabiha21
Nov 17 at 2:24
The tangement does not have to be horizontal - See: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tangent
– NoChance
Nov 17 at 2:24
@Nabiha21, because when you put $x = -2$ in the $y'$ equation, you get $0$
– Sauhard Sharma
Nov 17 at 2:25
@Ohhh, I get it all now, I had incorrectly used 3/4 as the tangent's gradient xD Ithanksss everybody<3
– Nabiha21
Nov 17 at 2:30
@NoChance The tangent, by definition, must touch the curve at one and only one point. Had the line not been flat, the tangent would have intersected the function twice. Because the tangent to a function at a point has the same slope as the derivative of the function at that point, and because the derivative at that point is zero, the tangent line will have a slope of zero, i.e., it will be flat. True the tangent doesn't have to be horizontal, but in this case, it is.
– Christopher Marley
Nov 18 at 6:07
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Given $y=x^2/(x+1)$, and $f'(frac{u}v) = (u'v-v'u)/v^2 $
$$y' = frac{2x(x+1)-(x^2)}{(x^2+1)^2} = frac{x^2+2x}{(x+1)^2}$$
The normal line's slope is $-frac1{y'}=-frac{(x+1)^2}{x^2+2x}$. For the function, $y(1) = frac12$ and $y(-2)=-4$
The slope of the normal through $(1,frac12)$ is $-frac43$, so the line is $y_1=-frac43(x-1)+frac12$. This has an x-intercept of $x-1=frac34 cdot frac12 to x=frac{11}8$.
The slope of the tangent through $(-2,-4)$ is $0$, so the y-intercept will be $-4$.
The triangle now has a base $|M-0|$ of $frac{11}8$ and a height $|N-0|$ of $4$.
Area = $$frac12 bh=frac{1*11*4}{2*8*1}=frac{11}4$$
Given $y=x^2/(x+1)$, and $f'(frac{u}v) = (u'v-v'u)/v^2 $
$$y' = frac{2x(x+1)-(x^2)}{(x^2+1)^2} = frac{x^2+2x}{(x+1)^2}$$
The normal line's slope is $-frac1{y'}=-frac{(x+1)^2}{x^2+2x}$. For the function, $y(1) = frac12$ and $y(-2)=-4$
The slope of the normal through $(1,frac12)$ is $-frac43$, so the line is $y_1=-frac43(x-1)+frac12$. This has an x-intercept of $x-1=frac34 cdot frac12 to x=frac{11}8$.
The slope of the tangent through $(-2,-4)$ is $0$, so the y-intercept will be $-4$.
The triangle now has a base $|M-0|$ of $frac{11}8$ and a height $|N-0|$ of $4$.
Area = $$frac12 bh=frac{1*11*4}{2*8*1}=frac{11}4$$
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Christopher Marley
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how did u know the slope of the tangent through (−2,−4) is 0?
– Nabiha21
Nov 17 at 2:24
The tangement does not have to be horizontal - See: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tangent
– NoChance
Nov 17 at 2:24
@Nabiha21, because when you put $x = -2$ in the $y'$ equation, you get $0$
– Sauhard Sharma
Nov 17 at 2:25
@Ohhh, I get it all now, I had incorrectly used 3/4 as the tangent's gradient xD Ithanksss everybody<3
– Nabiha21
Nov 17 at 2:30
@NoChance The tangent, by definition, must touch the curve at one and only one point. Had the line not been flat, the tangent would have intersected the function twice. Because the tangent to a function at a point has the same slope as the derivative of the function at that point, and because the derivative at that point is zero, the tangent line will have a slope of zero, i.e., it will be flat. True the tangent doesn't have to be horizontal, but in this case, it is.
– Christopher Marley
Nov 18 at 6:07
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how did u know the slope of the tangent through (−2,−4) is 0?
– Nabiha21
Nov 17 at 2:24
The tangement does not have to be horizontal - See: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tangent
– NoChance
Nov 17 at 2:24
@Nabiha21, because when you put $x = -2$ in the $y'$ equation, you get $0$
– Sauhard Sharma
Nov 17 at 2:25
@Ohhh, I get it all now, I had incorrectly used 3/4 as the tangent's gradient xD Ithanksss everybody<3
– Nabiha21
Nov 17 at 2:30
@NoChance The tangent, by definition, must touch the curve at one and only one point. Had the line not been flat, the tangent would have intersected the function twice. Because the tangent to a function at a point has the same slope as the derivative of the function at that point, and because the derivative at that point is zero, the tangent line will have a slope of zero, i.e., it will be flat. True the tangent doesn't have to be horizontal, but in this case, it is.
– Christopher Marley
Nov 18 at 6:07
how did u know the slope of the tangent through (−2,−4) is 0?
– Nabiha21
Nov 17 at 2:24
how did u know the slope of the tangent through (−2,−4) is 0?
– Nabiha21
Nov 17 at 2:24
The tangement does not have to be horizontal - See: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tangent
– NoChance
Nov 17 at 2:24
The tangement does not have to be horizontal - See: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tangent
– NoChance
Nov 17 at 2:24
@Nabiha21, because when you put $x = -2$ in the $y'$ equation, you get $0$
– Sauhard Sharma
Nov 17 at 2:25
@Nabiha21, because when you put $x = -2$ in the $y'$ equation, you get $0$
– Sauhard Sharma
Nov 17 at 2:25
@Ohhh, I get it all now, I had incorrectly used 3/4 as the tangent's gradient xD Ithanksss everybody<3
– Nabiha21
Nov 17 at 2:30
@Ohhh, I get it all now, I had incorrectly used 3/4 as the tangent's gradient xD Ithanksss everybody<3
– Nabiha21
Nov 17 at 2:30
@NoChance The tangent, by definition, must touch the curve at one and only one point. Had the line not been flat, the tangent would have intersected the function twice. Because the tangent to a function at a point has the same slope as the derivative of the function at that point, and because the derivative at that point is zero, the tangent line will have a slope of zero, i.e., it will be flat. True the tangent doesn't have to be horizontal, but in this case, it is.
– Christopher Marley
Nov 18 at 6:07
@NoChance The tangent, by definition, must touch the curve at one and only one point. Had the line not been flat, the tangent would have intersected the function twice. Because the tangent to a function at a point has the same slope as the derivative of the function at that point, and because the derivative at that point is zero, the tangent line will have a slope of zero, i.e., it will be flat. True the tangent doesn't have to be horizontal, but in this case, it is.
– Christopher Marley
Nov 18 at 6:07
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Hint: draw a picture... and show us what you tried.
– Sean Roberson
Nov 17 at 0:43
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I found it hard to parse the original problem definitions of $M,N$. Please check my edit to make sure I did not unintentionally change your meaning.
– hardmath
Nov 17 at 0:57
@hardmath the edit's good,thanks :)
– Nabiha21
Nov 17 at 1:07
@SeanRoberson okayy...I actually didn't "draw",so that's a good suggestion
– Nabiha21
Nov 17 at 1:08
If you find the coordinates of $M,N$, you should easily compute the are of the triangle.
– hardmath
Nov 17 at 1:26