Integrating $int (t^2+7)^{frac{1}{3}}$dt
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I have to integrate $int (t^2+7)^{frac{1}{3}}$dt
I tried some trigonometric substitution and then rationalisation but didn't get anything
Please provide a hint on how to proceed with this question
Please help!!!
calculus integration indefinite-integrals hypergeometric-function
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I have to integrate $int (t^2+7)^{frac{1}{3}}$dt
I tried some trigonometric substitution and then rationalisation but didn't get anything
Please provide a hint on how to proceed with this question
Please help!!!
calculus integration indefinite-integrals hypergeometric-function
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I don't think you can expect an elementary anti-derivative. Are you sure you're supposed to find one (by hand)?
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– StackTD
Jan 24 '18 at 15:29
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Are you sure about the power $frac 13$ ? This makes the problem very difficult (no closed form solution). I bet for $frac 12$.
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– Claude Leibovici
Jan 24 '18 at 15:30
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No it is 1/3 for sure
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– Atul Mishra
Jan 24 '18 at 15:30
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Do you want to bet ? I am sure that, once more, there is a typo in a textbook.
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– Claude Leibovici
Jan 24 '18 at 15:31
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Any answer is appreciated@StackTD
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Jan 24 '18 at 15:32
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I have to integrate $int (t^2+7)^{frac{1}{3}}$dt
I tried some trigonometric substitution and then rationalisation but didn't get anything
Please provide a hint on how to proceed with this question
Please help!!!
calculus integration indefinite-integrals hypergeometric-function
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I have to integrate $int (t^2+7)^{frac{1}{3}}$dt
I tried some trigonometric substitution and then rationalisation but didn't get anything
Please provide a hint on how to proceed with this question
Please help!!!
calculus integration indefinite-integrals hypergeometric-function
calculus integration indefinite-integrals hypergeometric-function
edited Jan 24 '18 at 15:48
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I don't think you can expect an elementary anti-derivative. Are you sure you're supposed to find one (by hand)?
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– StackTD
Jan 24 '18 at 15:29
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Are you sure about the power $frac 13$ ? This makes the problem very difficult (no closed form solution). I bet for $frac 12$.
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– Claude Leibovici
Jan 24 '18 at 15:30
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No it is 1/3 for sure
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– Atul Mishra
Jan 24 '18 at 15:30
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Do you want to bet ? I am sure that, once more, there is a typo in a textbook.
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– Claude Leibovici
Jan 24 '18 at 15:31
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Any answer is appreciated@StackTD
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– Atul Mishra
Jan 24 '18 at 15:32
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show 6 more comments
3
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I don't think you can expect an elementary anti-derivative. Are you sure you're supposed to find one (by hand)?
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– StackTD
Jan 24 '18 at 15:29
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Are you sure about the power $frac 13$ ? This makes the problem very difficult (no closed form solution). I bet for $frac 12$.
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– Claude Leibovici
Jan 24 '18 at 15:30
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No it is 1/3 for sure
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– Atul Mishra
Jan 24 '18 at 15:30
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Do you want to bet ? I am sure that, once more, there is a typo in a textbook.
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– Claude Leibovici
Jan 24 '18 at 15:31
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Any answer is appreciated@StackTD
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– Atul Mishra
Jan 24 '18 at 15:32
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I don't think you can expect an elementary anti-derivative. Are you sure you're supposed to find one (by hand)?
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– StackTD
Jan 24 '18 at 15:29
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I don't think you can expect an elementary anti-derivative. Are you sure you're supposed to find one (by hand)?
$endgroup$
– StackTD
Jan 24 '18 at 15:29
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Are you sure about the power $frac 13$ ? This makes the problem very difficult (no closed form solution). I bet for $frac 12$.
$endgroup$
– Claude Leibovici
Jan 24 '18 at 15:30
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Are you sure about the power $frac 13$ ? This makes the problem very difficult (no closed form solution). I bet for $frac 12$.
$endgroup$
– Claude Leibovici
Jan 24 '18 at 15:30
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No it is 1/3 for sure
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– Atul Mishra
Jan 24 '18 at 15:30
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No it is 1/3 for sure
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– Atul Mishra
Jan 24 '18 at 15:30
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Do you want to bet ? I am sure that, once more, there is a typo in a textbook.
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– Claude Leibovici
Jan 24 '18 at 15:31
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Do you want to bet ? I am sure that, once more, there is a typo in a textbook.
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– Claude Leibovici
Jan 24 '18 at 15:31
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Any answer is appreciated@StackTD
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– Atul Mishra
Jan 24 '18 at 15:32
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Any answer is appreciated@StackTD
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Setting $$t=sqrt{7}cosh ximplies dt =sqrt{7}sinh xdx$$
$$int (t^2+7)^{frac{1}{3}}dt = 7^{2/3}int (cosh^2x+1)^{frac{1}{3}} sinh x, dx = 7^{2/3}int sinh^{5/3} x, dx$$
this integral cannot be written as elementary function. It belongs to the class of hypergeometric functions
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I tried that , but power is 1/3 , this is not helping for 1/3 power
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– Atul Mishra
Jan 24 '18 at 15:35
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I bet this is the hint for exponent $frac12$.
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– Weijun Zhou
Jan 24 '18 at 15:35
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This is very fine for $frac 12$ but $frac 13$ leads to hypergeometric function, I guess.
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– Claude Leibovici
Jan 24 '18 at 15:36
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@ClaudeLeibovici ya I just check it does not an obvious integral
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Jan 24 '18 at 15:37
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@Isham it will make it worse
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Positioning your integral:
begin{equation}
int left(t^2 + 7 right)^{frac{1}{3}}:dt = int_0^t left(w^2 + 7 right)^{frac{1}{3}}:dw = int_0^t frac{1}{ left(w^2 + 7 right)^{frac{1}{3}}}:dw
end{equation}
We can employ the solution that I've spoken to here:
begin{equation}
int_0^x frac{t^k}{left(t^n + aright)^m}:dt = frac{1}{n}a^{frac{k + 1}{n} - m} left[Bleft(m - frac{k + 1}{n}, frac{k + 1}{n}right) - Bleft(m - frac{k + 1}{n}, frac{k + 1}{n}, frac{1}{1 + ax^n} right)right]
end{equation}
Here $a = 7$, $m = -frac{1}{3}$, $k = 0$, and $n = 2$. Thus,
begin{align}
int left(t^2 + 7 right)^{frac{1}{3}}:dt &= frac{1}{2}cdot 7^{frac{0 + 1}{2} --frac{1}{3}}left[Bleft(-frac{1}{3} - frac{0 + 1}{2}, frac{0 + 1}{2}right) - Bleft(-frac{1}{3}- frac{0 + 1}{2}, frac{0 + 1}{2}, frac{1}{1 + 7t^2} right)right] \
&= frac{7^{frac{5}{6}}}{2}left[Bleft(-frac{5}{6}, frac{1}{2}right) - Bleft(-frac{5}{6}, frac{1}{2}, frac{1}{1 + 7t^2} right)right]
end{align}
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Setting $$t=sqrt{7}cosh ximplies dt =sqrt{7}sinh xdx$$
$$int (t^2+7)^{frac{1}{3}}dt = 7^{2/3}int (cosh^2x+1)^{frac{1}{3}} sinh x, dx = 7^{2/3}int sinh^{5/3} x, dx$$
this integral cannot be written as elementary function. It belongs to the class of hypergeometric functions
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I tried that , but power is 1/3 , this is not helping for 1/3 power
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– Atul Mishra
Jan 24 '18 at 15:35
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I bet this is the hint for exponent $frac12$.
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– Weijun Zhou
Jan 24 '18 at 15:35
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This is very fine for $frac 12$ but $frac 13$ leads to hypergeometric function, I guess.
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– Claude Leibovici
Jan 24 '18 at 15:36
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@ClaudeLeibovici ya I just check it does not an obvious integral
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– Guy Fsone
Jan 24 '18 at 15:37
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@Isham it will make it worse
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Setting $$t=sqrt{7}cosh ximplies dt =sqrt{7}sinh xdx$$
$$int (t^2+7)^{frac{1}{3}}dt = 7^{2/3}int (cosh^2x+1)^{frac{1}{3}} sinh x, dx = 7^{2/3}int sinh^{5/3} x, dx$$
this integral cannot be written as elementary function. It belongs to the class of hypergeometric functions
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I tried that , but power is 1/3 , this is not helping for 1/3 power
$endgroup$
– Atul Mishra
Jan 24 '18 at 15:35
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I bet this is the hint for exponent $frac12$.
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– Weijun Zhou
Jan 24 '18 at 15:35
1
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This is very fine for $frac 12$ but $frac 13$ leads to hypergeometric function, I guess.
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– Claude Leibovici
Jan 24 '18 at 15:36
1
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@ClaudeLeibovici ya I just check it does not an obvious integral
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– Guy Fsone
Jan 24 '18 at 15:37
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@Isham it will make it worse
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– Guy Fsone
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Setting $$t=sqrt{7}cosh ximplies dt =sqrt{7}sinh xdx$$
$$int (t^2+7)^{frac{1}{3}}dt = 7^{2/3}int (cosh^2x+1)^{frac{1}{3}} sinh x, dx = 7^{2/3}int sinh^{5/3} x, dx$$
this integral cannot be written as elementary function. It belongs to the class of hypergeometric functions
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Setting $$t=sqrt{7}cosh ximplies dt =sqrt{7}sinh xdx$$
$$int (t^2+7)^{frac{1}{3}}dt = 7^{2/3}int (cosh^2x+1)^{frac{1}{3}} sinh x, dx = 7^{2/3}int sinh^{5/3} x, dx$$
this integral cannot be written as elementary function. It belongs to the class of hypergeometric functions
edited Jan 24 '18 at 15:45
answered Jan 24 '18 at 15:33
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I tried that , but power is 1/3 , this is not helping for 1/3 power
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– Atul Mishra
Jan 24 '18 at 15:35
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I bet this is the hint for exponent $frac12$.
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– Weijun Zhou
Jan 24 '18 at 15:35
1
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This is very fine for $frac 12$ but $frac 13$ leads to hypergeometric function, I guess.
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– Claude Leibovici
Jan 24 '18 at 15:36
1
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@ClaudeLeibovici ya I just check it does not an obvious integral
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– Guy Fsone
Jan 24 '18 at 15:37
1
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@Isham it will make it worse
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– Guy Fsone
Jan 24 '18 at 15:42
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show 2 more comments
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I tried that , but power is 1/3 , this is not helping for 1/3 power
$endgroup$
– Atul Mishra
Jan 24 '18 at 15:35
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I bet this is the hint for exponent $frac12$.
$endgroup$
– Weijun Zhou
Jan 24 '18 at 15:35
1
$begingroup$
This is very fine for $frac 12$ but $frac 13$ leads to hypergeometric function, I guess.
$endgroup$
– Claude Leibovici
Jan 24 '18 at 15:36
1
$begingroup$
@ClaudeLeibovici ya I just check it does not an obvious integral
$endgroup$
– Guy Fsone
Jan 24 '18 at 15:37
1
$begingroup$
@Isham it will make it worse
$endgroup$
– Guy Fsone
Jan 24 '18 at 15:42
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I tried that , but power is 1/3 , this is not helping for 1/3 power
$endgroup$
– Atul Mishra
Jan 24 '18 at 15:35
$begingroup$
I tried that , but power is 1/3 , this is not helping for 1/3 power
$endgroup$
– Atul Mishra
Jan 24 '18 at 15:35
$begingroup$
I bet this is the hint for exponent $frac12$.
$endgroup$
– Weijun Zhou
Jan 24 '18 at 15:35
$begingroup$
I bet this is the hint for exponent $frac12$.
$endgroup$
– Weijun Zhou
Jan 24 '18 at 15:35
1
1
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This is very fine for $frac 12$ but $frac 13$ leads to hypergeometric function, I guess.
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– Claude Leibovici
Jan 24 '18 at 15:36
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This is very fine for $frac 12$ but $frac 13$ leads to hypergeometric function, I guess.
$endgroup$
– Claude Leibovici
Jan 24 '18 at 15:36
1
1
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@ClaudeLeibovici ya I just check it does not an obvious integral
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– Guy Fsone
Jan 24 '18 at 15:37
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@ClaudeLeibovici ya I just check it does not an obvious integral
$endgroup$
– Guy Fsone
Jan 24 '18 at 15:37
1
1
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@Isham it will make it worse
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– Guy Fsone
Jan 24 '18 at 15:42
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@Isham it will make it worse
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– Guy Fsone
Jan 24 '18 at 15:42
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show 2 more comments
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Positioning your integral:
begin{equation}
int left(t^2 + 7 right)^{frac{1}{3}}:dt = int_0^t left(w^2 + 7 right)^{frac{1}{3}}:dw = int_0^t frac{1}{ left(w^2 + 7 right)^{frac{1}{3}}}:dw
end{equation}
We can employ the solution that I've spoken to here:
begin{equation}
int_0^x frac{t^k}{left(t^n + aright)^m}:dt = frac{1}{n}a^{frac{k + 1}{n} - m} left[Bleft(m - frac{k + 1}{n}, frac{k + 1}{n}right) - Bleft(m - frac{k + 1}{n}, frac{k + 1}{n}, frac{1}{1 + ax^n} right)right]
end{equation}
Here $a = 7$, $m = -frac{1}{3}$, $k = 0$, and $n = 2$. Thus,
begin{align}
int left(t^2 + 7 right)^{frac{1}{3}}:dt &= frac{1}{2}cdot 7^{frac{0 + 1}{2} --frac{1}{3}}left[Bleft(-frac{1}{3} - frac{0 + 1}{2}, frac{0 + 1}{2}right) - Bleft(-frac{1}{3}- frac{0 + 1}{2}, frac{0 + 1}{2}, frac{1}{1 + 7t^2} right)right] \
&= frac{7^{frac{5}{6}}}{2}left[Bleft(-frac{5}{6}, frac{1}{2}right) - Bleft(-frac{5}{6}, frac{1}{2}, frac{1}{1 + 7t^2} right)right]
end{align}
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Positioning your integral:
begin{equation}
int left(t^2 + 7 right)^{frac{1}{3}}:dt = int_0^t left(w^2 + 7 right)^{frac{1}{3}}:dw = int_0^t frac{1}{ left(w^2 + 7 right)^{frac{1}{3}}}:dw
end{equation}
We can employ the solution that I've spoken to here:
begin{equation}
int_0^x frac{t^k}{left(t^n + aright)^m}:dt = frac{1}{n}a^{frac{k + 1}{n} - m} left[Bleft(m - frac{k + 1}{n}, frac{k + 1}{n}right) - Bleft(m - frac{k + 1}{n}, frac{k + 1}{n}, frac{1}{1 + ax^n} right)right]
end{equation}
Here $a = 7$, $m = -frac{1}{3}$, $k = 0$, and $n = 2$. Thus,
begin{align}
int left(t^2 + 7 right)^{frac{1}{3}}:dt &= frac{1}{2}cdot 7^{frac{0 + 1}{2} --frac{1}{3}}left[Bleft(-frac{1}{3} - frac{0 + 1}{2}, frac{0 + 1}{2}right) - Bleft(-frac{1}{3}- frac{0 + 1}{2}, frac{0 + 1}{2}, frac{1}{1 + 7t^2} right)right] \
&= frac{7^{frac{5}{6}}}{2}left[Bleft(-frac{5}{6}, frac{1}{2}right) - Bleft(-frac{5}{6}, frac{1}{2}, frac{1}{1 + 7t^2} right)right]
end{align}
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Positioning your integral:
begin{equation}
int left(t^2 + 7 right)^{frac{1}{3}}:dt = int_0^t left(w^2 + 7 right)^{frac{1}{3}}:dw = int_0^t frac{1}{ left(w^2 + 7 right)^{frac{1}{3}}}:dw
end{equation}
We can employ the solution that I've spoken to here:
begin{equation}
int_0^x frac{t^k}{left(t^n + aright)^m}:dt = frac{1}{n}a^{frac{k + 1}{n} - m} left[Bleft(m - frac{k + 1}{n}, frac{k + 1}{n}right) - Bleft(m - frac{k + 1}{n}, frac{k + 1}{n}, frac{1}{1 + ax^n} right)right]
end{equation}
Here $a = 7$, $m = -frac{1}{3}$, $k = 0$, and $n = 2$. Thus,
begin{align}
int left(t^2 + 7 right)^{frac{1}{3}}:dt &= frac{1}{2}cdot 7^{frac{0 + 1}{2} --frac{1}{3}}left[Bleft(-frac{1}{3} - frac{0 + 1}{2}, frac{0 + 1}{2}right) - Bleft(-frac{1}{3}- frac{0 + 1}{2}, frac{0 + 1}{2}, frac{1}{1 + 7t^2} right)right] \
&= frac{7^{frac{5}{6}}}{2}left[Bleft(-frac{5}{6}, frac{1}{2}right) - Bleft(-frac{5}{6}, frac{1}{2}, frac{1}{1 + 7t^2} right)right]
end{align}
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Positioning your integral:
begin{equation}
int left(t^2 + 7 right)^{frac{1}{3}}:dt = int_0^t left(w^2 + 7 right)^{frac{1}{3}}:dw = int_0^t frac{1}{ left(w^2 + 7 right)^{frac{1}{3}}}:dw
end{equation}
We can employ the solution that I've spoken to here:
begin{equation}
int_0^x frac{t^k}{left(t^n + aright)^m}:dt = frac{1}{n}a^{frac{k + 1}{n} - m} left[Bleft(m - frac{k + 1}{n}, frac{k + 1}{n}right) - Bleft(m - frac{k + 1}{n}, frac{k + 1}{n}, frac{1}{1 + ax^n} right)right]
end{equation}
Here $a = 7$, $m = -frac{1}{3}$, $k = 0$, and $n = 2$. Thus,
begin{align}
int left(t^2 + 7 right)^{frac{1}{3}}:dt &= frac{1}{2}cdot 7^{frac{0 + 1}{2} --frac{1}{3}}left[Bleft(-frac{1}{3} - frac{0 + 1}{2}, frac{0 + 1}{2}right) - Bleft(-frac{1}{3}- frac{0 + 1}{2}, frac{0 + 1}{2}, frac{1}{1 + 7t^2} right)right] \
&= frac{7^{frac{5}{6}}}{2}left[Bleft(-frac{5}{6}, frac{1}{2}right) - Bleft(-frac{5}{6}, frac{1}{2}, frac{1}{1 + 7t^2} right)right]
end{align}
answered Dec 31 '18 at 2:12
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Are you sure about the power $frac 13$ ? This makes the problem very difficult (no closed form solution). I bet for $frac 12$.
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– Claude Leibovici
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No it is 1/3 for sure
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Do you want to bet ? I am sure that, once more, there is a typo in a textbook.
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Any answer is appreciated@StackTD
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