Solving the linear first order differential equation?
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I was given the equation
$y' = -xy$, where $y(0) = 1$.
My solution was as follows:
$$frac{dy}{dx} = -xy $$
$$dy = -xy dx $$
$$int {dy} = int {-xy dx} $$
$$y = -frac{x^2}{2}y + c $$
$$y + frac{x^2}{2}y = c $$
$$y(1 + frac{x^2}{2}) = c $$
$$y = frac{c}{1 + frac{x^2}{2}} $$
I tried plugging in $0$ and $1$ respectively to find $c$, and got $c = 0$.
I just know that what I did is wrong. Where did I go wrong, please? Thanks!
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I was given the equation
$y' = -xy$, where $y(0) = 1$.
My solution was as follows:
$$frac{dy}{dx} = -xy $$
$$dy = -xy dx $$
$$int {dy} = int {-xy dx} $$
$$y = -frac{x^2}{2}y + c $$
$$y + frac{x^2}{2}y = c $$
$$y(1 + frac{x^2}{2}) = c $$
$$y = frac{c}{1 + frac{x^2}{2}} $$
I tried plugging in $0$ and $1$ respectively to find $c$, and got $c = 0$.
I just know that what I did is wrong. Where did I go wrong, please? Thanks!
ordinary-differential-equations derivatives
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Why don't you separate the variables like $$frac{dy}{y}=-xdx?$$ Also the final conclusion is definitely wrong.
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– Fakemistake
Feb 24 at 9:20
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I was given the equation
$y' = -xy$, where $y(0) = 1$.
My solution was as follows:
$$frac{dy}{dx} = -xy $$
$$dy = -xy dx $$
$$int {dy} = int {-xy dx} $$
$$y = -frac{x^2}{2}y + c $$
$$y + frac{x^2}{2}y = c $$
$$y(1 + frac{x^2}{2}) = c $$
$$y = frac{c}{1 + frac{x^2}{2}} $$
I tried plugging in $0$ and $1$ respectively to find $c$, and got $c = 0$.
I just know that what I did is wrong. Where did I go wrong, please? Thanks!
ordinary-differential-equations derivatives
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I was given the equation
$y' = -xy$, where $y(0) = 1$.
My solution was as follows:
$$frac{dy}{dx} = -xy $$
$$dy = -xy dx $$
$$int {dy} = int {-xy dx} $$
$$y = -frac{x^2}{2}y + c $$
$$y + frac{x^2}{2}y = c $$
$$y(1 + frac{x^2}{2}) = c $$
$$y = frac{c}{1 + frac{x^2}{2}} $$
I tried plugging in $0$ and $1$ respectively to find $c$, and got $c = 0$.
I just know that what I did is wrong. Where did I go wrong, please? Thanks!
ordinary-differential-equations derivatives
ordinary-differential-equations derivatives
edited Feb 24 at 18:49
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Why don't you separate the variables like $$frac{dy}{y}=-xdx?$$ Also the final conclusion is definitely wrong.
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– Fakemistake
Feb 24 at 9:20
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Why don't you separate the variables like $$frac{dy}{y}=-xdx?$$ Also the final conclusion is definitely wrong.
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– Fakemistake
Feb 24 at 9:20
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Why don't you separate the variables like $$frac{dy}{y}=-xdx?$$ Also the final conclusion is definitely wrong.
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– Fakemistake
Feb 24 at 9:20
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Why don't you separate the variables like $$frac{dy}{y}=-xdx?$$ Also the final conclusion is definitely wrong.
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Feb 24 at 9:20
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Hint:
This is a variable separable differential equation that is we can separate the differential equation such that for some functions $f(x)$ and $g(y)$: $f(x)mathrm dx =g(y)mathrm dy$. $$dfrac{mathrm dy}{mathrm dx}=-xy implies int dfrac{1}{y}mathrm dy =-int x mathrm dx$$
Now all that is left is to compute the integral and use the inital condition to figure out the value of constant. Can you proceed?
Note that you cannot simply integrate $-xy$ wrt $x$. Your computation assumes that $y$ is a constant which it most certainly is not.
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That helped a lot! Thank you!
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– A.Smith
Feb 24 at 15:25
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(Too long for a comment.)
No one else has mentioned this, so I will...
Remember: $y$ is a function of $x$, not something that is constant with respect to variation of $x$. (Forgetting this is a fairly common error when first performing implicit differentiation.) It can help to write "$y(x)$" rather than just "$y$".
Your error is believing $int -x y(x) , mathrm{d}x = frac{-1}{2}x^2 y$. But $y$ is not some constant in this integral; it is a function that depends on $x$. Otherwise, what is written could be the absurdity (when, say $y(x) = frac{1}{x^2}$), "$int -x cdot frac{1}{x^2} ,mathrm{d}x = frac{-1}{2} x^2 cdot frac{1}{x^2} + C_1 = C$" rather than the correct
$$ int -x cdot frac{1}{x^2} ,mathrm{d}x = ln|x| + C text{.} $$
Quick way to verify this: Implicitly differentiate your antiderivative to see if you get the integrand and differential element back:begin{align*}
left( frac{-1}{2}x^2 y(x) right)'
&= frac{-1}{2}x^2 (y(x))' + left( frac{-1}{2}x^2 right)' y(x) \
&= frac{-1}{2}x^2 ,mathrm{d}y(x) + left( frac{-1}{2} cdot 2 x ,mathrm{d}x right) y(x) \
&= frac{-1}{2}x^2 ,mathrm{d}y(x) - x y(x) ,mathrm{d}x text{,}
end{align*}
which isn't quite "$- x y,mathrm{d}x$".
(However, we have shown begin{align*}
int left( frac{-1}{2}x^2 frac{mathrm{d}y(x)}{mathrm{d}x} - x y(x) right) ,mathrm{d}x
&= int frac{mathrm{d}}{mathrm{d}x} left( frac{-1}{2}x^2 y(x) right) , mathrm{d} x \
&= frac{-1}{2}x^2 y(x) + C text{.}
end{align*}
Familiarity with this kind of manipulation could be useful in the future.)
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After writing
$$intfrac{mathrm{d}y}{y}=int -x,mathrm{d}x,$$
you get $ln|y|=-frac{x^2}{2}+c_1$, which implies
$$y(x)=cexp(-x^2/2)quadtext{for}quad c=pmexp(c_1).$$
After plugging in $y(0)=1$, you get $c=1$, so
$$y(x)=exp(-x^2/2).$$
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Thank you so so much! I super appreciate it!
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– A.Smith
Feb 24 at 15:53
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You're welcome :)
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Here is another method that does not use separation of variables and uses integrating factors. Write
$$
y'+xy=0
$$
and multiply both sides by $e^{int x, dx}=e^{x^2/2}$ to get that
$$
0=y'e^{x^2/2}+xye^{x^2/2}=frac{d}{dx}(ye^{x^2/2}).
$$
So
$$
ye^{x^2/2}=cimplies y=ce^{-x^2/2}
$$
for some $c$. Since $y(0)=1$, we deduce that
$$
y=exp(-x^2/2).
$$
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Hint:
This is a variable separable differential equation that is we can separate the differential equation such that for some functions $f(x)$ and $g(y)$: $f(x)mathrm dx =g(y)mathrm dy$. $$dfrac{mathrm dy}{mathrm dx}=-xy implies int dfrac{1}{y}mathrm dy =-int x mathrm dx$$
Now all that is left is to compute the integral and use the inital condition to figure out the value of constant. Can you proceed?
Note that you cannot simply integrate $-xy$ wrt $x$. Your computation assumes that $y$ is a constant which it most certainly is not.
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That helped a lot! Thank you!
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– A.Smith
Feb 24 at 15:25
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Hint:
This is a variable separable differential equation that is we can separate the differential equation such that for some functions $f(x)$ and $g(y)$: $f(x)mathrm dx =g(y)mathrm dy$. $$dfrac{mathrm dy}{mathrm dx}=-xy implies int dfrac{1}{y}mathrm dy =-int x mathrm dx$$
Now all that is left is to compute the integral and use the inital condition to figure out the value of constant. Can you proceed?
Note that you cannot simply integrate $-xy$ wrt $x$. Your computation assumes that $y$ is a constant which it most certainly is not.
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That helped a lot! Thank you!
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– A.Smith
Feb 24 at 15:25
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Hint:
This is a variable separable differential equation that is we can separate the differential equation such that for some functions $f(x)$ and $g(y)$: $f(x)mathrm dx =g(y)mathrm dy$. $$dfrac{mathrm dy}{mathrm dx}=-xy implies int dfrac{1}{y}mathrm dy =-int x mathrm dx$$
Now all that is left is to compute the integral and use the inital condition to figure out the value of constant. Can you proceed?
Note that you cannot simply integrate $-xy$ wrt $x$. Your computation assumes that $y$ is a constant which it most certainly is not.
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Hint:
This is a variable separable differential equation that is we can separate the differential equation such that for some functions $f(x)$ and $g(y)$: $f(x)mathrm dx =g(y)mathrm dy$. $$dfrac{mathrm dy}{mathrm dx}=-xy implies int dfrac{1}{y}mathrm dy =-int x mathrm dx$$
Now all that is left is to compute the integral and use the inital condition to figure out the value of constant. Can you proceed?
Note that you cannot simply integrate $-xy$ wrt $x$. Your computation assumes that $y$ is a constant which it most certainly is not.
edited Feb 24 at 9:10
answered Feb 24 at 8:55
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That helped a lot! Thank you!
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That helped a lot! Thank you!
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(Too long for a comment.)
No one else has mentioned this, so I will...
Remember: $y$ is a function of $x$, not something that is constant with respect to variation of $x$. (Forgetting this is a fairly common error when first performing implicit differentiation.) It can help to write "$y(x)$" rather than just "$y$".
Your error is believing $int -x y(x) , mathrm{d}x = frac{-1}{2}x^2 y$. But $y$ is not some constant in this integral; it is a function that depends on $x$. Otherwise, what is written could be the absurdity (when, say $y(x) = frac{1}{x^2}$), "$int -x cdot frac{1}{x^2} ,mathrm{d}x = frac{-1}{2} x^2 cdot frac{1}{x^2} + C_1 = C$" rather than the correct
$$ int -x cdot frac{1}{x^2} ,mathrm{d}x = ln|x| + C text{.} $$
Quick way to verify this: Implicitly differentiate your antiderivative to see if you get the integrand and differential element back:begin{align*}
left( frac{-1}{2}x^2 y(x) right)'
&= frac{-1}{2}x^2 (y(x))' + left( frac{-1}{2}x^2 right)' y(x) \
&= frac{-1}{2}x^2 ,mathrm{d}y(x) + left( frac{-1}{2} cdot 2 x ,mathrm{d}x right) y(x) \
&= frac{-1}{2}x^2 ,mathrm{d}y(x) - x y(x) ,mathrm{d}x text{,}
end{align*}
which isn't quite "$- x y,mathrm{d}x$".
(However, we have shown begin{align*}
int left( frac{-1}{2}x^2 frac{mathrm{d}y(x)}{mathrm{d}x} - x y(x) right) ,mathrm{d}x
&= int frac{mathrm{d}}{mathrm{d}x} left( frac{-1}{2}x^2 y(x) right) , mathrm{d} x \
&= frac{-1}{2}x^2 y(x) + C text{.}
end{align*}
Familiarity with this kind of manipulation could be useful in the future.)
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(Too long for a comment.)
No one else has mentioned this, so I will...
Remember: $y$ is a function of $x$, not something that is constant with respect to variation of $x$. (Forgetting this is a fairly common error when first performing implicit differentiation.) It can help to write "$y(x)$" rather than just "$y$".
Your error is believing $int -x y(x) , mathrm{d}x = frac{-1}{2}x^2 y$. But $y$ is not some constant in this integral; it is a function that depends on $x$. Otherwise, what is written could be the absurdity (when, say $y(x) = frac{1}{x^2}$), "$int -x cdot frac{1}{x^2} ,mathrm{d}x = frac{-1}{2} x^2 cdot frac{1}{x^2} + C_1 = C$" rather than the correct
$$ int -x cdot frac{1}{x^2} ,mathrm{d}x = ln|x| + C text{.} $$
Quick way to verify this: Implicitly differentiate your antiderivative to see if you get the integrand and differential element back:begin{align*}
left( frac{-1}{2}x^2 y(x) right)'
&= frac{-1}{2}x^2 (y(x))' + left( frac{-1}{2}x^2 right)' y(x) \
&= frac{-1}{2}x^2 ,mathrm{d}y(x) + left( frac{-1}{2} cdot 2 x ,mathrm{d}x right) y(x) \
&= frac{-1}{2}x^2 ,mathrm{d}y(x) - x y(x) ,mathrm{d}x text{,}
end{align*}
which isn't quite "$- x y,mathrm{d}x$".
(However, we have shown begin{align*}
int left( frac{-1}{2}x^2 frac{mathrm{d}y(x)}{mathrm{d}x} - x y(x) right) ,mathrm{d}x
&= int frac{mathrm{d}}{mathrm{d}x} left( frac{-1}{2}x^2 y(x) right) , mathrm{d} x \
&= frac{-1}{2}x^2 y(x) + C text{.}
end{align*}
Familiarity with this kind of manipulation could be useful in the future.)
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(Too long for a comment.)
No one else has mentioned this, so I will...
Remember: $y$ is a function of $x$, not something that is constant with respect to variation of $x$. (Forgetting this is a fairly common error when first performing implicit differentiation.) It can help to write "$y(x)$" rather than just "$y$".
Your error is believing $int -x y(x) , mathrm{d}x = frac{-1}{2}x^2 y$. But $y$ is not some constant in this integral; it is a function that depends on $x$. Otherwise, what is written could be the absurdity (when, say $y(x) = frac{1}{x^2}$), "$int -x cdot frac{1}{x^2} ,mathrm{d}x = frac{-1}{2} x^2 cdot frac{1}{x^2} + C_1 = C$" rather than the correct
$$ int -x cdot frac{1}{x^2} ,mathrm{d}x = ln|x| + C text{.} $$
Quick way to verify this: Implicitly differentiate your antiderivative to see if you get the integrand and differential element back:begin{align*}
left( frac{-1}{2}x^2 y(x) right)'
&= frac{-1}{2}x^2 (y(x))' + left( frac{-1}{2}x^2 right)' y(x) \
&= frac{-1}{2}x^2 ,mathrm{d}y(x) + left( frac{-1}{2} cdot 2 x ,mathrm{d}x right) y(x) \
&= frac{-1}{2}x^2 ,mathrm{d}y(x) - x y(x) ,mathrm{d}x text{,}
end{align*}
which isn't quite "$- x y,mathrm{d}x$".
(However, we have shown begin{align*}
int left( frac{-1}{2}x^2 frac{mathrm{d}y(x)}{mathrm{d}x} - x y(x) right) ,mathrm{d}x
&= int frac{mathrm{d}}{mathrm{d}x} left( frac{-1}{2}x^2 y(x) right) , mathrm{d} x \
&= frac{-1}{2}x^2 y(x) + C text{.}
end{align*}
Familiarity with this kind of manipulation could be useful in the future.)
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(Too long for a comment.)
No one else has mentioned this, so I will...
Remember: $y$ is a function of $x$, not something that is constant with respect to variation of $x$. (Forgetting this is a fairly common error when first performing implicit differentiation.) It can help to write "$y(x)$" rather than just "$y$".
Your error is believing $int -x y(x) , mathrm{d}x = frac{-1}{2}x^2 y$. But $y$ is not some constant in this integral; it is a function that depends on $x$. Otherwise, what is written could be the absurdity (when, say $y(x) = frac{1}{x^2}$), "$int -x cdot frac{1}{x^2} ,mathrm{d}x = frac{-1}{2} x^2 cdot frac{1}{x^2} + C_1 = C$" rather than the correct
$$ int -x cdot frac{1}{x^2} ,mathrm{d}x = ln|x| + C text{.} $$
Quick way to verify this: Implicitly differentiate your antiderivative to see if you get the integrand and differential element back:begin{align*}
left( frac{-1}{2}x^2 y(x) right)'
&= frac{-1}{2}x^2 (y(x))' + left( frac{-1}{2}x^2 right)' y(x) \
&= frac{-1}{2}x^2 ,mathrm{d}y(x) + left( frac{-1}{2} cdot 2 x ,mathrm{d}x right) y(x) \
&= frac{-1}{2}x^2 ,mathrm{d}y(x) - x y(x) ,mathrm{d}x text{,}
end{align*}
which isn't quite "$- x y,mathrm{d}x$".
(However, we have shown begin{align*}
int left( frac{-1}{2}x^2 frac{mathrm{d}y(x)}{mathrm{d}x} - x y(x) right) ,mathrm{d}x
&= int frac{mathrm{d}}{mathrm{d}x} left( frac{-1}{2}x^2 y(x) right) , mathrm{d} x \
&= frac{-1}{2}x^2 y(x) + C text{.}
end{align*}
Familiarity with this kind of manipulation could be useful in the future.)
answered Feb 24 at 19:36
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After writing
$$intfrac{mathrm{d}y}{y}=int -x,mathrm{d}x,$$
you get $ln|y|=-frac{x^2}{2}+c_1$, which implies
$$y(x)=cexp(-x^2/2)quadtext{for}quad c=pmexp(c_1).$$
After plugging in $y(0)=1$, you get $c=1$, so
$$y(x)=exp(-x^2/2).$$
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Thank you so so much! I super appreciate it!
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– A.Smith
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You're welcome :)
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After writing
$$intfrac{mathrm{d}y}{y}=int -x,mathrm{d}x,$$
you get $ln|y|=-frac{x^2}{2}+c_1$, which implies
$$y(x)=cexp(-x^2/2)quadtext{for}quad c=pmexp(c_1).$$
After plugging in $y(0)=1$, you get $c=1$, so
$$y(x)=exp(-x^2/2).$$
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Thank you so so much! I super appreciate it!
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– A.Smith
Feb 24 at 15:53
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You're welcome :)
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– st.math
Feb 24 at 16:32
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After writing
$$intfrac{mathrm{d}y}{y}=int -x,mathrm{d}x,$$
you get $ln|y|=-frac{x^2}{2}+c_1$, which implies
$$y(x)=cexp(-x^2/2)quadtext{for}quad c=pmexp(c_1).$$
After plugging in $y(0)=1$, you get $c=1$, so
$$y(x)=exp(-x^2/2).$$
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After writing
$$intfrac{mathrm{d}y}{y}=int -x,mathrm{d}x,$$
you get $ln|y|=-frac{x^2}{2}+c_1$, which implies
$$y(x)=cexp(-x^2/2)quadtext{for}quad c=pmexp(c_1).$$
After plugging in $y(0)=1$, you get $c=1$, so
$$y(x)=exp(-x^2/2).$$
edited Feb 24 at 10:01
answered Feb 24 at 9:55
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Thank you so so much! I super appreciate it!
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– A.Smith
Feb 24 at 15:53
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You're welcome :)
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– st.math
Feb 24 at 16:32
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Thank you so so much! I super appreciate it!
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– A.Smith
Feb 24 at 15:53
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You're welcome :)
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– st.math
Feb 24 at 16:32
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Thank you so so much! I super appreciate it!
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– A.Smith
Feb 24 at 15:53
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Thank you so so much! I super appreciate it!
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– A.Smith
Feb 24 at 15:53
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You're welcome :)
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– st.math
Feb 24 at 16:32
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You're welcome :)
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Here is another method that does not use separation of variables and uses integrating factors. Write
$$
y'+xy=0
$$
and multiply both sides by $e^{int x, dx}=e^{x^2/2}$ to get that
$$
0=y'e^{x^2/2}+xye^{x^2/2}=frac{d}{dx}(ye^{x^2/2}).
$$
So
$$
ye^{x^2/2}=cimplies y=ce^{-x^2/2}
$$
for some $c$. Since $y(0)=1$, we deduce that
$$
y=exp(-x^2/2).
$$
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Here is another method that does not use separation of variables and uses integrating factors. Write
$$
y'+xy=0
$$
and multiply both sides by $e^{int x, dx}=e^{x^2/2}$ to get that
$$
0=y'e^{x^2/2}+xye^{x^2/2}=frac{d}{dx}(ye^{x^2/2}).
$$
So
$$
ye^{x^2/2}=cimplies y=ce^{-x^2/2}
$$
for some $c$. Since $y(0)=1$, we deduce that
$$
y=exp(-x^2/2).
$$
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Here is another method that does not use separation of variables and uses integrating factors. Write
$$
y'+xy=0
$$
and multiply both sides by $e^{int x, dx}=e^{x^2/2}$ to get that
$$
0=y'e^{x^2/2}+xye^{x^2/2}=frac{d}{dx}(ye^{x^2/2}).
$$
So
$$
ye^{x^2/2}=cimplies y=ce^{-x^2/2}
$$
for some $c$. Since $y(0)=1$, we deduce that
$$
y=exp(-x^2/2).
$$
$endgroup$
Here is another method that does not use separation of variables and uses integrating factors. Write
$$
y'+xy=0
$$
and multiply both sides by $e^{int x, dx}=e^{x^2/2}$ to get that
$$
0=y'e^{x^2/2}+xye^{x^2/2}=frac{d}{dx}(ye^{x^2/2}).
$$
So
$$
ye^{x^2/2}=cimplies y=ce^{-x^2/2}
$$
for some $c$. Since $y(0)=1$, we deduce that
$$
y=exp(-x^2/2).
$$
answered Feb 24 at 16:42
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$begingroup$
Why don't you separate the variables like $$frac{dy}{y}=-xdx?$$ Also the final conclusion is definitely wrong.
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– Fakemistake
Feb 24 at 9:20