a4paper, where should I declare it? In document class or geometry?
I currently have an article document class and I previously changed it to include printing on A4 paper:
documentclass[12pt, a4paper]{article}
However, I had to change my margins to meet my university requirements and the answer I received used A4 in the geometry package too.
geometry{a4paper,margin=15mm,bindingoffset=25mm,heightrounded,}
Partially practical and partially theoretical, is there any difference to using either declaration and/or is there an effect by using both?
best-practices paper-size geometry package-options
edited Jul 5 '12 at 16:31
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I currently have an article document class and I previously changed it to include printing on A4 paper:
documentclass[12pt, a4paper]{article}
However, I had to change my margins to meet my university requirements and the answer I received used A4 in the geometry package too.
geometry{a4paper,margin=15mm,bindingoffset=25mm,heightrounded,}
Partially practical and partially theoretical, is there any difference to using either declaration and/or is there an effect by using both?
best-practices paper-size geometry package-options
edited Jul 5 '12 at 16:31
doncherry
35.2k23136208
asked Jul 5 '12 at 15:41
Mike StumpfMike Stumpf
70931431
3
It's irrelevant: options to the class are automatically passed to all loaded packages.
– egreg
Jul 5 '12 at 15:51
@egreg: If you specify the paper size viadocumentclassand don't usegeometry, the paper will be of the correct size, so something changes. The question is, could these changes interfere withgeometryin any way? (It doesn't seem like it.)
– doncherry
Jul 5 '12 at 16:30
@doncherry The class understandsa4paperand sets the text block dimensions accordingly. If you also loadgeometrythe dimensions are changed again according togeometrydefault for A4 paper, unless you use thepassoption.
– egreg
Jul 5 '12 at 16:36
add a comment |
I currently have an article document class and I previously changed it to include printing on A4 paper:
documentclass[12pt, a4paper]{article}
However, I had to change my margins to meet my university requirements and the answer I received used A4 in the geometry package too.
geometry{a4paper,margin=15mm,bindingoffset=25mm,heightrounded,}
Partially practical and partially theoretical, is there any difference to using either declaration and/or is there an effect by using both?
best-practices paper-size geometry package-options
edited Jul 5 '12 at 16:31
doncherry
35.2k23136208
asked Jul 5 '12 at 15:41
Mike StumpfMike Stumpf
70931431
I currently have an article document class and I previously changed it to include printing on A4 paper:
documentclass[12pt, a4paper]{article}
However, I had to change my margins to meet my university requirements and the answer I received used A4 in the geometry package too.
geometry{a4paper,margin=15mm,bindingoffset=25mm,heightrounded,}
Partially practical and partially theoretical, is there any difference to using either declaration and/or is there an effect by using both?
best-practices paper-size geometry package-options
best-practices paper-size geometry package-options
edited Jul 5 '12 at 16:31
doncherry
35.2k23136208
asked Jul 5 '12 at 15:41
Mike StumpfMike Stumpf
70931431
edited Jul 5 '12 at 16:31
doncherry
35.2k23136208
asked Jul 5 '12 at 15:41
Mike StumpfMike Stumpf
70931431
edited Jul 5 '12 at 16:31
doncherry
35.2k23136208
edited Jul 5 '12 at 16:31
doncherry
35.2k23136208
edited Jul 5 '12 at 16:31
doncherry
35.2k23136208
35.2k23136208
asked Jul 5 '12 at 15:41
Mike StumpfMike Stumpf
70931431
asked Jul 5 '12 at 15:41
Mike StumpfMike Stumpf
70931431
asked Jul 5 '12 at 15:41
Mike StumpfMike Stumpf
70931431
70931431
3
It's irrelevant: options to the class are automatically passed to all loaded packages.
– egreg
Jul 5 '12 at 15:51
@egreg: If you specify the paper size viadocumentclassand don't usegeometry, the paper will be of the correct size, so something changes. The question is, could these changes interfere withgeometryin any way? (It doesn't seem like it.)
– doncherry
Jul 5 '12 at 16:30
@doncherry The class understandsa4paperand sets the text block dimensions accordingly. If you also loadgeometrythe dimensions are changed again according togeometrydefault for A4 paper, unless you use thepassoption.
– egreg
Jul 5 '12 at 16:36
add a comment |
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It's irrelevant: options to the class are automatically passed to all loaded packages.
– egreg
Jul 5 '12 at 15:51
@egreg: If you specify the paper size viadocumentclassand don't usegeometry, the paper will be of the correct size, so something changes. The question is, could these changes interfere withgeometryin any way? (It doesn't seem like it.)
– doncherry
Jul 5 '12 at 16:30
@doncherry The class understandsa4paperand sets the text block dimensions accordingly. If you also loadgeometrythe dimensions are changed again according togeometrydefault for A4 paper, unless you use thepassoption.
– egreg
Jul 5 '12 at 16:36
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3
It's irrelevant: options to the class are automatically passed to all loaded packages.
– egreg
Jul 5 '12 at 15:51
It's irrelevant: options to the class are automatically passed to all loaded packages.
– egreg
Jul 5 '12 at 15:51
@egreg: If you specify the paper size via
documentclass and don't use geometry, the paper will be of the correct size, so something changes. The question is, could these changes interfere with geometry in any way? (It doesn't seem like it.)– doncherry
Jul 5 '12 at 16:30
@egreg: If you specify the paper size via
documentclass and don't use geometry, the paper will be of the correct size, so something changes. The question is, could these changes interfere with geometry in any way? (It doesn't seem like it.)– doncherry
Jul 5 '12 at 16:30
@doncherry The class understands
a4paper and sets the text block dimensions accordingly. If you also load geometry the dimensions are changed again according to geometry default for A4 paper, unless you use the pass option.– egreg
Jul 5 '12 at 16:36
@doncherry The class understands
a4paper and sets the text block dimensions accordingly. If you also load geometry the dimensions are changed again according to geometry default for A4 paper, unless you use the pass option.– egreg
Jul 5 '12 at 16:36
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a4paper specified in document class will be passed to geometry. So there is no difference in your case if you specify the option in documentclass{article} or usepackage{geometry}.
However if other packages need to know document format, you need to specify a4paper in the document class.
edited Mar 13 at 20:50
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Looking at the source for the article class, how is the paper size being passed to geometry? I only see thatpaperheightandpaperwidthare being directly set.
– Tyler Crompton
Oct 8 '15 at 3:18
@kissmyarmpit! LaTeX Error: Filea4paper.sty' not found.`
– alhelal
Jan 10 '18 at 3:32
1
Passing the option todocumentclassgives any package a chance to react to the option; on the other hand, passing it tousepackage{geometry}doesn't, thus I wouldn't say there is no difference. It depends on what other packages do with the paper size. Nothing in most cases, but who knows...
– frougon
Dec 22 '18 at 10:22
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I'm not sure about the changes, but I think the standard way is the following:
documentclass[12pt]{article}
usepackage[a4paper]{geometry}
...
You can specify the margins further. The simplest way is writing
usepackage[a4paper, margin=2cm]{geometry}
answered Jul 5 '12 at 15:49
AlenannoAlenanno
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no, adda4paperto theclass options, it only passed on togeometrythen any later package that might also react toa4paperwould never see it.
– daleif
Jul 5 '12 at 16:08
@daleif I don't understand your comment sorry...
– Alenanno
Jul 5 '12 at 21:42
2
typedocumentclass[12pt,a4paper]{...}not justusepackage[a4paper]{geometry}
– daleif
Jul 7 '12 at 10:02
@daleif I just realized but if that's true, how is this different from the accepted answer?
– Alenanno
Apr 23 '15 at 15:48
@daleif No answer? :P
– Alenanno
May 4 '17 at 10:18
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There might be a difference if you load some other packages that could use ...paper options. It is naturally global option of your manuscript so I think it is better declared global, similarly to the language options discussed here: https://tex.stackexchange.com/a/60298/11002
So I think that ...paper should be put as a global option of documentclass.
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a4paper specified in document class will be passed to geometry. So there is no difference in your case if you specify the option in documentclass{article} or usepackage{geometry}.
However if other packages need to know document format, you need to specify a4paper in the document class.
edited Mar 13 at 20:50
Paradox
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answered Jul 5 '12 at 15:50
kiss my armpitkiss my armpit
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Looking at the source for the article class, how is the paper size being passed to geometry? I only see thatpaperheightandpaperwidthare being directly set.
– Tyler Crompton
Oct 8 '15 at 3:18
@kissmyarmpit! LaTeX Error: Filea4paper.sty' not found.`
– alhelal
Jan 10 '18 at 3:32
1
Passing the option todocumentclassgives any package a chance to react to the option; on the other hand, passing it tousepackage{geometry}doesn't, thus I wouldn't say there is no difference. It depends on what other packages do with the paper size. Nothing in most cases, but who knows...
– frougon
Dec 22 '18 at 10:22
add a comment |
a4paper specified in document class will be passed to geometry. So there is no difference in your case if you specify the option in documentclass{article} or usepackage{geometry}.
However if other packages need to know document format, you need to specify a4paper in the document class.
edited Mar 13 at 20:50
Paradox
1056
answered Jul 5 '12 at 15:50
kiss my armpitkiss my armpit
13.2k20174407
Looking at the source for the article class, how is the paper size being passed to geometry? I only see thatpaperheightandpaperwidthare being directly set.
– Tyler Crompton
Oct 8 '15 at 3:18
@kissmyarmpit! LaTeX Error: Filea4paper.sty' not found.`
– alhelal
Jan 10 '18 at 3:32
1
Passing the option todocumentclassgives any package a chance to react to the option; on the other hand, passing it tousepackage{geometry}doesn't, thus I wouldn't say there is no difference. It depends on what other packages do with the paper size. Nothing in most cases, but who knows...
– frougon
Dec 22 '18 at 10:22
add a comment |
a4paper specified in document class will be passed to geometry. So there is no difference in your case if you specify the option in documentclass{article} or usepackage{geometry}.
However if other packages need to know document format, you need to specify a4paper in the document class.
edited Mar 13 at 20:50
Paradox
1056
answered Jul 5 '12 at 15:50
kiss my armpitkiss my armpit
13.2k20174407
a4paper specified in document class will be passed to geometry. So there is no difference in your case if you specify the option in documentclass{article} or usepackage{geometry}.
However if other packages need to know document format, you need to specify a4paper in the document class.
edited Mar 13 at 20:50
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answered Jul 5 '12 at 15:50
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Looking at the source for the article class, how is the paper size being passed to geometry? I only see thatpaperheightandpaperwidthare being directly set.
– Tyler Crompton
Oct 8 '15 at 3:18
@kissmyarmpit! LaTeX Error: Filea4paper.sty' not found.`
– alhelal
Jan 10 '18 at 3:32
1
Passing the option todocumentclassgives any package a chance to react to the option; on the other hand, passing it tousepackage{geometry}doesn't, thus I wouldn't say there is no difference. It depends on what other packages do with the paper size. Nothing in most cases, but who knows...
– frougon
Dec 22 '18 at 10:22
add a comment |
Looking at the source for the article class, how is the paper size being passed to geometry? I only see thatpaperheightandpaperwidthare being directly set.
– Tyler Crompton
Oct 8 '15 at 3:18
@kissmyarmpit! LaTeX Error: Filea4paper.sty' not found.`
– alhelal
Jan 10 '18 at 3:32
1
Passing the option todocumentclassgives any package a chance to react to the option; on the other hand, passing it tousepackage{geometry}doesn't, thus I wouldn't say there is no difference. It depends on what other packages do with the paper size. Nothing in most cases, but who knows...
– frougon
Dec 22 '18 at 10:22
Looking at the source for the article class, how is the paper size being passed to geometry? I only see that
paperheight and paperwidth are being directly set.– Tyler Crompton
Oct 8 '15 at 3:18
Looking at the source for the article class, how is the paper size being passed to geometry? I only see that
paperheight and paperwidth are being directly set.– Tyler Crompton
Oct 8 '15 at 3:18
@kissmyarmpit
! LaTeX Error: File a4paper.sty' not found.`– alhelal
Jan 10 '18 at 3:32
@kissmyarmpit
! LaTeX Error: File a4paper.sty' not found.`– alhelal
Jan 10 '18 at 3:32
1
1
Passing the option to
documentclass gives any package a chance to react to the option; on the other hand, passing it to usepackage{geometry} doesn't, thus I wouldn't say there is no difference. It depends on what other packages do with the paper size. Nothing in most cases, but who knows...– frougon
Dec 22 '18 at 10:22
Passing the option to
documentclass gives any package a chance to react to the option; on the other hand, passing it to usepackage{geometry} doesn't, thus I wouldn't say there is no difference. It depends on what other packages do with the paper size. Nothing in most cases, but who knows...– frougon
Dec 22 '18 at 10:22
add a comment |
I'm not sure about the changes, but I think the standard way is the following:
documentclass[12pt]{article}
usepackage[a4paper]{geometry}
...
You can specify the margins further. The simplest way is writing
usepackage[a4paper, margin=2cm]{geometry}
answered Jul 5 '12 at 15:49
AlenannoAlenanno
28.7k557111
no, adda4paperto theclass options, it only passed on togeometrythen any later package that might also react toa4paperwould never see it.
– daleif
Jul 5 '12 at 16:08
@daleif I don't understand your comment sorry...
– Alenanno
Jul 5 '12 at 21:42
2
typedocumentclass[12pt,a4paper]{...}not justusepackage[a4paper]{geometry}
– daleif
Jul 7 '12 at 10:02
@daleif I just realized but if that's true, how is this different from the accepted answer?
– Alenanno
Apr 23 '15 at 15:48
@daleif No answer? :P
– Alenanno
May 4 '17 at 10:18
|
show 3 more comments
I'm not sure about the changes, but I think the standard way is the following:
documentclass[12pt]{article}
usepackage[a4paper]{geometry}
...
You can specify the margins further. The simplest way is writing
usepackage[a4paper, margin=2cm]{geometry}
answered Jul 5 '12 at 15:49
AlenannoAlenanno
28.7k557111
no, adda4paperto theclass options, it only passed on togeometrythen any later package that might also react toa4paperwould never see it.
– daleif
Jul 5 '12 at 16:08
@daleif I don't understand your comment sorry...
– Alenanno
Jul 5 '12 at 21:42
2
typedocumentclass[12pt,a4paper]{...}not justusepackage[a4paper]{geometry}
– daleif
Jul 7 '12 at 10:02
@daleif I just realized but if that's true, how is this different from the accepted answer?
– Alenanno
Apr 23 '15 at 15:48
@daleif No answer? :P
– Alenanno
May 4 '17 at 10:18
|
show 3 more comments
I'm not sure about the changes, but I think the standard way is the following:
documentclass[12pt]{article}
usepackage[a4paper]{geometry}
...
You can specify the margins further. The simplest way is writing
usepackage[a4paper, margin=2cm]{geometry}
answered Jul 5 '12 at 15:49
AlenannoAlenanno
28.7k557111
I'm not sure about the changes, but I think the standard way is the following:
documentclass[12pt]{article}
usepackage[a4paper]{geometry}
...
You can specify the margins further. The simplest way is writing
usepackage[a4paper, margin=2cm]{geometry}
answered Jul 5 '12 at 15:49
AlenannoAlenanno
28.7k557111
answered Jul 5 '12 at 15:49
AlenannoAlenanno
28.7k557111
answered Jul 5 '12 at 15:49
AlenannoAlenanno
28.7k557111
answered Jul 5 '12 at 15:49
AlenannoAlenanno
28.7k557111
28.7k557111
no, adda4paperto theclass options, it only passed on togeometrythen any later package that might also react toa4paperwould never see it.
– daleif
Jul 5 '12 at 16:08
@daleif I don't understand your comment sorry...
– Alenanno
Jul 5 '12 at 21:42
2
typedocumentclass[12pt,a4paper]{...}not justusepackage[a4paper]{geometry}
– daleif
Jul 7 '12 at 10:02
@daleif I just realized but if that's true, how is this different from the accepted answer?
– Alenanno
Apr 23 '15 at 15:48
@daleif No answer? :P
– Alenanno
May 4 '17 at 10:18
|
show 3 more comments
no, adda4paperto theclass options, it only passed on togeometrythen any later package that might also react toa4paperwould never see it.
– daleif
Jul 5 '12 at 16:08
@daleif I don't understand your comment sorry...
– Alenanno
Jul 5 '12 at 21:42
2
typedocumentclass[12pt,a4paper]{...}not justusepackage[a4paper]{geometry}
– daleif
Jul 7 '12 at 10:02
@daleif I just realized but if that's true, how is this different from the accepted answer?
– Alenanno
Apr 23 '15 at 15:48
@daleif No answer? :P
– Alenanno
May 4 '17 at 10:18
no, add
a4paper to the class options, it only passed on to geometry then any later package that might also react to a4paper would never see it.– daleif
Jul 5 '12 at 16:08
no, add
a4paper to the class options, it only passed on to geometry then any later package that might also react to a4paper would never see it.– daleif
Jul 5 '12 at 16:08
@daleif I don't understand your comment sorry...
– Alenanno
Jul 5 '12 at 21:42
@daleif I don't understand your comment sorry...
– Alenanno
Jul 5 '12 at 21:42
2
2
type
documentclass[12pt,a4paper]{...} not just usepackage[a4paper]{geometry}– daleif
Jul 7 '12 at 10:02
type
documentclass[12pt,a4paper]{...} not just usepackage[a4paper]{geometry}– daleif
Jul 7 '12 at 10:02
@daleif I just realized but if that's true, how is this different from the accepted answer?
– Alenanno
Apr 23 '15 at 15:48
@daleif I just realized but if that's true, how is this different from the accepted answer?
– Alenanno
Apr 23 '15 at 15:48
@daleif No answer? :P
– Alenanno
May 4 '17 at 10:18
@daleif No answer? :P
– Alenanno
May 4 '17 at 10:18
|
show 3 more comments
There might be a difference if you load some other packages that could use ...paper options. It is naturally global option of your manuscript so I think it is better declared global, similarly to the language options discussed here: https://tex.stackexchange.com/a/60298/11002
So I think that ...paper should be put as a global option of documentclass.
edited Apr 13 '17 at 12:35
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answered Jul 5 '12 at 16:30
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There might be a difference if you load some other packages that could use ...paper options. It is naturally global option of your manuscript so I think it is better declared global, similarly to the language options discussed here: https://tex.stackexchange.com/a/60298/11002
So I think that ...paper should be put as a global option of documentclass.
edited Apr 13 '17 at 12:35
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answered Jul 5 '12 at 16:30
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39.7k8124233
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There might be a difference if you load some other packages that could use ...paper options. It is naturally global option of your manuscript so I think it is better declared global, similarly to the language options discussed here: https://tex.stackexchange.com/a/60298/11002
So I think that ...paper should be put as a global option of documentclass.
edited Apr 13 '17 at 12:35
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answered Jul 5 '12 at 16:30
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There might be a difference if you load some other packages that could use ...paper options. It is naturally global option of your manuscript so I think it is better declared global, similarly to the language options discussed here: https://tex.stackexchange.com/a/60298/11002
So I think that ...paper should be put as a global option of documentclass.
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answered Jul 5 '12 at 16:30
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It's irrelevant: options to the class are automatically passed to all loaded packages.
– egreg
Jul 5 '12 at 15:51
@egreg: If you specify the paper size via
documentclassand don't usegeometry, the paper will be of the correct size, so something changes. The question is, could these changes interfere withgeometryin any way? (It doesn't seem like it.)– doncherry
Jul 5 '12 at 16:30
@doncherry The class understands
a4paperand sets the text block dimensions accordingly. If you also loadgeometrythe dimensions are changed again according togeometrydefault for A4 paper, unless you use thepassoption.– egreg
Jul 5 '12 at 16:36