What is the definition of a minimal presentation of a group?












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I'm working on a problem on the braid monodromy of complex lines arrangements in $mathbb{C}^{2}.$ I have the following question. It's just a simple definition. However, I didn't find anywhere.




Let $G$ be a group and let $langle Smid Rrangle$ be a presentation of $G.$ What does it mean that such presentation is minimal?




Thank you very much for everyone will answer and kind regards.










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    In most cases, if the group is finite-generated then minimality if referd to the cardinality of $|S|$. That is a presentation is minimal if $S$ is a minimal set of generators.
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I'm working on a problem on the braid monodromy of complex lines arrangements in $mathbb{C}^{2}.$ I have the following question. It's just a simple definition. However, I didn't find anywhere.




Let $G$ be a group and let $langle Smid Rrangle$ be a presentation of $G.$ What does it mean that such presentation is minimal?




Thank you very much for everyone will answer and kind regards.










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    In most cases, if the group is finite-generated then minimality if referd to the cardinality of $|S|$. That is a presentation is minimal if $S$ is a minimal set of generators.
    $endgroup$
    – Ofir Schnabel
    Jan 21 '15 at 10:58






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    $begingroup$
    And what about the number of relators?
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I'm working on a problem on the braid monodromy of complex lines arrangements in $mathbb{C}^{2}.$ I have the following question. It's just a simple definition. However, I didn't find anywhere.




Let $G$ be a group and let $langle Smid Rrangle$ be a presentation of $G.$ What does it mean that such presentation is minimal?




Thank you very much for everyone will answer and kind regards.










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I'm working on a problem on the braid monodromy of complex lines arrangements in $mathbb{C}^{2}.$ I have the following question. It's just a simple definition. However, I didn't find anywhere.




Let $G$ be a group and let $langle Smid Rrangle$ be a presentation of $G.$ What does it mean that such presentation is minimal?




Thank you very much for everyone will answer and kind regards.







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    $begingroup$
    In most cases, if the group is finite-generated then minimality if referd to the cardinality of $|S|$. That is a presentation is minimal if $S$ is a minimal set of generators.
    $endgroup$
    – Ofir Schnabel
    Jan 21 '15 at 10:58






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    And what about the number of relators?
    $endgroup$
    – esaini582
    Jan 21 '15 at 13:21














  • 1




    $begingroup$
    In most cases, if the group is finite-generated then minimality if referd to the cardinality of $|S|$. That is a presentation is minimal if $S$ is a minimal set of generators.
    $endgroup$
    – Ofir Schnabel
    Jan 21 '15 at 10:58






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    And what about the number of relators?
    $endgroup$
    – esaini582
    Jan 21 '15 at 13:21








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$begingroup$
In most cases, if the group is finite-generated then minimality if referd to the cardinality of $|S|$. That is a presentation is minimal if $S$ is a minimal set of generators.
$endgroup$
– Ofir Schnabel
Jan 21 '15 at 10:58




$begingroup$
In most cases, if the group is finite-generated then minimality if referd to the cardinality of $|S|$. That is a presentation is minimal if $S$ is a minimal set of generators.
$endgroup$
– Ofir Schnabel
Jan 21 '15 at 10:58




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And what about the number of relators?
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For a finite group $G$ let $d(G)$ be the minimal number of generators of $G$ and let $r(G)$ be the minimal number such that $G$ has a finite presentation with $r(G)$ relators. Call a presentation with $d(G)$ generators and $r(G)$ relators a minimal presentation.




So, using your notation, both $|S|$ and $|R|$ are the smallest they can be for $langle Smid Rrangle$ to be a presentation of $G$.






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    For a finite group $G$ let $d(G)$ be the minimal number of generators of $G$ and let $r(G)$ be the minimal number such that $G$ has a finite presentation with $r(G)$ relators. Call a presentation with $d(G)$ generators and $r(G)$ relators a minimal presentation.




    So, using your notation, both $|S|$ and $|R|$ are the smallest they can be for $langle Smid Rrangle$ to be a presentation of $G$.






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      For a finite group $G$ let $d(G)$ be the minimal number of generators of $G$ and let $r(G)$ be the minimal number such that $G$ has a finite presentation with $r(G)$ relators. Call a presentation with $d(G)$ generators and $r(G)$ relators a minimal presentation.




      So, using your notation, both $|S|$ and $|R|$ are the smallest they can be for $langle Smid Rrangle$ to be a presentation of $G$.






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        For a finite group $G$ let $d(G)$ be the minimal number of generators of $G$ and let $r(G)$ be the minimal number such that $G$ has a finite presentation with $r(G)$ relators. Call a presentation with $d(G)$ generators and $r(G)$ relators a minimal presentation.




        So, using your notation, both $|S|$ and $|R|$ are the smallest they can be for $langle Smid Rrangle$ to be a presentation of $G$.






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        For a finite group $G$ let $d(G)$ be the minimal number of generators of $G$ and let $r(G)$ be the minimal number such that $G$ has a finite presentation with $r(G)$ relators. Call a presentation with $d(G)$ generators and $r(G)$ relators a minimal presentation.




        So, using your notation, both $|S|$ and $|R|$ are the smallest they can be for $langle Smid Rrangle$ to be a presentation of $G$.







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