Can I cast Nondetection and Divination spells on myself?












12












$begingroup$


I have a simple question:



If I cast a nondetection spell on me can I also cast spells like detect magic on myself while I'm under the nondetection effect?






dnd-5e spells targeting divination







share|improve this question











$endgroup$








  • 2




    $begingroup$
    Are you trying to detect magic that is on you or just in general can you use that spell if you have non-detection running?
    $endgroup$
    – NautArch
    Jan 30 at 17:30










  • $begingroup$
    Hello and welcome! You can take the tour to learn about the site. I made some changes to the question to hopefully make it more clear but feel free to revert the changes or edit yourself if you don't like the change or if I changed what you wanted to ask. Happy gaming!
    $endgroup$
    – Sdjz
    Jan 30 at 17:30
















12












$begingroup$


I have a simple question:



If I cast a nondetection spell on me can I also cast spells like detect magic on myself while I'm under the nondetection effect?






dnd-5e spells targeting divination







share|improve this question











$endgroup$








  • 2




    $begingroup$
    Are you trying to detect magic that is on you or just in general can you use that spell if you have non-detection running?
    $endgroup$
    – NautArch
    Jan 30 at 17:30










  • $begingroup$
    Hello and welcome! You can take the tour to learn about the site. I made some changes to the question to hopefully make it more clear but feel free to revert the changes or edit yourself if you don't like the change or if I changed what you wanted to ask. Happy gaming!
    $endgroup$
    – Sdjz
    Jan 30 at 17:30














12












12








12





$begingroup$


I have a simple question:



If I cast a nondetection spell on me can I also cast spells like detect magic on myself while I'm under the nondetection effect?






dnd-5e spells targeting divination







share|improve this question











$endgroup$




I have a simple question:



If I cast a nondetection spell on me can I also cast spells like detect magic on myself while I'm under the nondetection effect?






dnd-5e spells targeting divination




dnd-5e spells targeting divination






share|improve this question















share|improve this question













share|improve this question




share|improve this question








edited Jan 30 at 18:18









V2Blast

21.9k366139




21.9k366139










asked Jan 30 at 17:19









EiriEiri

613




613








  • 2




    $begingroup$
    Are you trying to detect magic that is on you or just in general can you use that spell if you have non-detection running?
    $endgroup$
    – NautArch
    Jan 30 at 17:30










  • $begingroup$
    Hello and welcome! You can take the tour to learn about the site. I made some changes to the question to hopefully make it more clear but feel free to revert the changes or edit yourself if you don't like the change or if I changed what you wanted to ask. Happy gaming!
    $endgroup$
    – Sdjz
    Jan 30 at 17:30














  • 2




    $begingroup$
    Are you trying to detect magic that is on you or just in general can you use that spell if you have non-detection running?
    $endgroup$
    – NautArch
    Jan 30 at 17:30










  • $begingroup$
    Hello and welcome! You can take the tour to learn about the site. I made some changes to the question to hopefully make it more clear but feel free to revert the changes or edit yourself if you don't like the change or if I changed what you wanted to ask. Happy gaming!
    $endgroup$
    – Sdjz
    Jan 30 at 17:30








2




2




$begingroup$
Are you trying to detect magic that is on you or just in general can you use that spell if you have non-detection running?
$endgroup$
– NautArch
Jan 30 at 17:30




$begingroup$
Are you trying to detect magic that is on you or just in general can you use that spell if you have non-detection running?
$endgroup$
– NautArch
Jan 30 at 17:30












$begingroup$
Hello and welcome! You can take the tour to learn about the site. I made some changes to the question to hopefully make it more clear but feel free to revert the changes or edit yourself if you don't like the change or if I changed what you wanted to ask. Happy gaming!
$endgroup$
– Sdjz
Jan 30 at 17:30




$begingroup$
Hello and welcome! You can take the tour to learn about the site. I made some changes to the question to hopefully make it more clear but feel free to revert the changes or edit yourself if you don't like the change or if I changed what you wanted to ask. Happy gaming!
$endgroup$
– Sdjz
Jan 30 at 17:30










1 Answer
1






active

oldest

votes


















16












$begingroup$

No, you can't



It says clearly in nondetection's spell description:




The target can't be targeted by any divination magic




"Any" includes your own, so no divination spells would affect the target, unless that spell says otherwise.



Detect magic is an AOE spell that targets the caster as the point of origin as stated in the rules for targeting:




A spell's description tells you whether the spell targets creatures, objects, or a point of origin for an area of effect




And thus the spell cannot target the caster.






share|improve this answer











$endgroup$









  • 3




    $begingroup$
    Might be worth mentioning explicitly that detect magic is a "self" spell and thus would unequivocally target the caster.
    $endgroup$
    – Rubiksmoose
    Jan 30 at 17:40






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Excellent assessment. Pretty sure my comment in the question isn't necessary anymore :)
    $endgroup$
    – NautArch
    Jan 30 at 17:42










  • $begingroup$
    @Rubiksmoose That sounds odd to me, so I Googled it, and found this argument to the contrary: reddit.com/r/dndnext/comments/61kgpb/…
    $endgroup$
    – Brilliand
    Jan 30 at 21:49












  • $begingroup$
    @Brilliand the first 2 sentences of the post are correct, but everything else is not. The origin of an AOE is a target of the spell. In this case the origin is the caster and thus the caster is a target. From the Targeting rules: "A spell's description tells you whether the spell targets creatures, objects, or a point of origin for an area of effect "
    $endgroup$
    – Rubiksmoose
    Jan 30 at 21:52












  • $begingroup$
    I added a small part to your answer. Feel free to revert if you disagree but I think it makes you case clearer (especially since there seems to be confusion about the matter). It seemed too small to write my own answer with and it fits perfectly with what you have already said.
    $endgroup$
    – Rubiksmoose
    Jan 30 at 22:02











Your Answer





StackExchange.ifUsing("editor", function () {
return StackExchange.using("mathjaxEditing", function () {
StackExchange.MarkdownEditor.creationCallbacks.add(function (editor, postfix) {
StackExchange.mathjaxEditing.prepareWmdForMathJax(editor, postfix, [["\$", "\$"]]);
});
});
}, "mathjax-editing");

StackExchange.ready(function() {
var channelOptions = {
tags: "".split(" "),
id: "122"
};
initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);

StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function() {
// Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled) {
StackExchange.using("snippets", function() {
createEditor();
});
}
else {
createEditor();
}
});

function createEditor() {
StackExchange.prepareEditor({
heartbeatType: 'answer',
autoActivateHeartbeat: false,
convertImagesToLinks: false,
noModals: true,
showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
reputationToPostImages: null,
bindNavPrevention: true,
postfix: "",
imageUploader: {
brandingHtml: "Powered by u003ca class="icon-imgur-white" href="https://imgur.com/"u003eu003c/au003e",
contentPolicyHtml: "User contributions licensed under u003ca href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/"u003ecc by-sa 3.0 with attribution requiredu003c/au003e u003ca href="https://stackoverflow.com/legal/content-policy"u003e(content policy)u003c/au003e",
allowUrls: true
},
noCode: true, onDemand: true,
discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
});


}
});














draft saved

draft discarded


















StackExchange.ready(
function () {
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2frpg.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f140211%2fcan-i-cast-nondetection-and-divination-spells-on-myself%23new-answer', 'question_page');
}
);

Post as a guest















Required, but never shown

























1 Answer
1






active

oldest

votes








1 Answer
1






active

oldest

votes









active

oldest

votes






active

oldest

votes









16












$begingroup$

No, you can't



It says clearly in nondetection's spell description:




The target can't be targeted by any divination magic




"Any" includes your own, so no divination spells would affect the target, unless that spell says otherwise.



Detect magic is an AOE spell that targets the caster as the point of origin as stated in the rules for targeting:




A spell's description tells you whether the spell targets creatures, objects, or a point of origin for an area of effect




And thus the spell cannot target the caster.






share|improve this answer











$endgroup$









  • 3




    $begingroup$
    Might be worth mentioning explicitly that detect magic is a "self" spell and thus would unequivocally target the caster.
    $endgroup$
    – Rubiksmoose
    Jan 30 at 17:40






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Excellent assessment. Pretty sure my comment in the question isn't necessary anymore :)
    $endgroup$
    – NautArch
    Jan 30 at 17:42










  • $begingroup$
    @Rubiksmoose That sounds odd to me, so I Googled it, and found this argument to the contrary: reddit.com/r/dndnext/comments/61kgpb/…
    $endgroup$
    – Brilliand
    Jan 30 at 21:49












  • $begingroup$
    @Brilliand the first 2 sentences of the post are correct, but everything else is not. The origin of an AOE is a target of the spell. In this case the origin is the caster and thus the caster is a target. From the Targeting rules: "A spell's description tells you whether the spell targets creatures, objects, or a point of origin for an area of effect "
    $endgroup$
    – Rubiksmoose
    Jan 30 at 21:52












  • $begingroup$
    I added a small part to your answer. Feel free to revert if you disagree but I think it makes you case clearer (especially since there seems to be confusion about the matter). It seemed too small to write my own answer with and it fits perfectly with what you have already said.
    $endgroup$
    – Rubiksmoose
    Jan 30 at 22:02
















16












$begingroup$

No, you can't



It says clearly in nondetection's spell description:




The target can't be targeted by any divination magic




"Any" includes your own, so no divination spells would affect the target, unless that spell says otherwise.



Detect magic is an AOE spell that targets the caster as the point of origin as stated in the rules for targeting:




A spell's description tells you whether the spell targets creatures, objects, or a point of origin for an area of effect




And thus the spell cannot target the caster.






share|improve this answer











$endgroup$









  • 3




    $begingroup$
    Might be worth mentioning explicitly that detect magic is a "self" spell and thus would unequivocally target the caster.
    $endgroup$
    – Rubiksmoose
    Jan 30 at 17:40






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Excellent assessment. Pretty sure my comment in the question isn't necessary anymore :)
    $endgroup$
    – NautArch
    Jan 30 at 17:42










  • $begingroup$
    @Rubiksmoose That sounds odd to me, so I Googled it, and found this argument to the contrary: reddit.com/r/dndnext/comments/61kgpb/…
    $endgroup$
    – Brilliand
    Jan 30 at 21:49












  • $begingroup$
    @Brilliand the first 2 sentences of the post are correct, but everything else is not. The origin of an AOE is a target of the spell. In this case the origin is the caster and thus the caster is a target. From the Targeting rules: "A spell's description tells you whether the spell targets creatures, objects, or a point of origin for an area of effect "
    $endgroup$
    – Rubiksmoose
    Jan 30 at 21:52












  • $begingroup$
    I added a small part to your answer. Feel free to revert if you disagree but I think it makes you case clearer (especially since there seems to be confusion about the matter). It seemed too small to write my own answer with and it fits perfectly with what you have already said.
    $endgroup$
    – Rubiksmoose
    Jan 30 at 22:02














16












16








16





$begingroup$

No, you can't



It says clearly in nondetection's spell description:




The target can't be targeted by any divination magic




"Any" includes your own, so no divination spells would affect the target, unless that spell says otherwise.



Detect magic is an AOE spell that targets the caster as the point of origin as stated in the rules for targeting:




A spell's description tells you whether the spell targets creatures, objects, or a point of origin for an area of effect




And thus the spell cannot target the caster.






share|improve this answer











$endgroup$



No, you can't



It says clearly in nondetection's spell description:




The target can't be targeted by any divination magic




"Any" includes your own, so no divination spells would affect the target, unless that spell says otherwise.



Detect magic is an AOE spell that targets the caster as the point of origin as stated in the rules for targeting:




A spell's description tells you whether the spell targets creatures, objects, or a point of origin for an area of effect




And thus the spell cannot target the caster.







share|improve this answer














share|improve this answer



share|improve this answer








edited Jan 30 at 22:00









Rubiksmoose

54k9265407




54k9265407










answered Jan 30 at 17:37









RallozarXRallozarX

58712




58712








  • 3




    $begingroup$
    Might be worth mentioning explicitly that detect magic is a "self" spell and thus would unequivocally target the caster.
    $endgroup$
    – Rubiksmoose
    Jan 30 at 17:40






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Excellent assessment. Pretty sure my comment in the question isn't necessary anymore :)
    $endgroup$
    – NautArch
    Jan 30 at 17:42










  • $begingroup$
    @Rubiksmoose That sounds odd to me, so I Googled it, and found this argument to the contrary: reddit.com/r/dndnext/comments/61kgpb/…
    $endgroup$
    – Brilliand
    Jan 30 at 21:49












  • $begingroup$
    @Brilliand the first 2 sentences of the post are correct, but everything else is not. The origin of an AOE is a target of the spell. In this case the origin is the caster and thus the caster is a target. From the Targeting rules: "A spell's description tells you whether the spell targets creatures, objects, or a point of origin for an area of effect "
    $endgroup$
    – Rubiksmoose
    Jan 30 at 21:52












  • $begingroup$
    I added a small part to your answer. Feel free to revert if you disagree but I think it makes you case clearer (especially since there seems to be confusion about the matter). It seemed too small to write my own answer with and it fits perfectly with what you have already said.
    $endgroup$
    – Rubiksmoose
    Jan 30 at 22:02














  • 3




    $begingroup$
    Might be worth mentioning explicitly that detect magic is a "self" spell and thus would unequivocally target the caster.
    $endgroup$
    – Rubiksmoose
    Jan 30 at 17:40






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Excellent assessment. Pretty sure my comment in the question isn't necessary anymore :)
    $endgroup$
    – NautArch
    Jan 30 at 17:42










  • $begingroup$
    @Rubiksmoose That sounds odd to me, so I Googled it, and found this argument to the contrary: reddit.com/r/dndnext/comments/61kgpb/…
    $endgroup$
    – Brilliand
    Jan 30 at 21:49












  • $begingroup$
    @Brilliand the first 2 sentences of the post are correct, but everything else is not. The origin of an AOE is a target of the spell. In this case the origin is the caster and thus the caster is a target. From the Targeting rules: "A spell's description tells you whether the spell targets creatures, objects, or a point of origin for an area of effect "
    $endgroup$
    – Rubiksmoose
    Jan 30 at 21:52












  • $begingroup$
    I added a small part to your answer. Feel free to revert if you disagree but I think it makes you case clearer (especially since there seems to be confusion about the matter). It seemed too small to write my own answer with and it fits perfectly with what you have already said.
    $endgroup$
    – Rubiksmoose
    Jan 30 at 22:02








3




3




$begingroup$
Might be worth mentioning explicitly that detect magic is a "self" spell and thus would unequivocally target the caster.
$endgroup$
– Rubiksmoose
Jan 30 at 17:40




$begingroup$
Might be worth mentioning explicitly that detect magic is a "self" spell and thus would unequivocally target the caster.
$endgroup$
– Rubiksmoose
Jan 30 at 17:40




1




1




$begingroup$
Excellent assessment. Pretty sure my comment in the question isn't necessary anymore :)
$endgroup$
– NautArch
Jan 30 at 17:42




$begingroup$
Excellent assessment. Pretty sure my comment in the question isn't necessary anymore :)
$endgroup$
– NautArch
Jan 30 at 17:42












$begingroup$
@Rubiksmoose That sounds odd to me, so I Googled it, and found this argument to the contrary: reddit.com/r/dndnext/comments/61kgpb/…
$endgroup$
– Brilliand
Jan 30 at 21:49






$begingroup$
@Rubiksmoose That sounds odd to me, so I Googled it, and found this argument to the contrary: reddit.com/r/dndnext/comments/61kgpb/…
$endgroup$
– Brilliand
Jan 30 at 21:49














$begingroup$
@Brilliand the first 2 sentences of the post are correct, but everything else is not. The origin of an AOE is a target of the spell. In this case the origin is the caster and thus the caster is a target. From the Targeting rules: "A spell's description tells you whether the spell targets creatures, objects, or a point of origin for an area of effect "
$endgroup$
– Rubiksmoose
Jan 30 at 21:52






$begingroup$
@Brilliand the first 2 sentences of the post are correct, but everything else is not. The origin of an AOE is a target of the spell. In this case the origin is the caster and thus the caster is a target. From the Targeting rules: "A spell's description tells you whether the spell targets creatures, objects, or a point of origin for an area of effect "
$endgroup$
– Rubiksmoose
Jan 30 at 21:52














$begingroup$
I added a small part to your answer. Feel free to revert if you disagree but I think it makes you case clearer (especially since there seems to be confusion about the matter). It seemed too small to write my own answer with and it fits perfectly with what you have already said.
$endgroup$
– Rubiksmoose
Jan 30 at 22:02




$begingroup$
I added a small part to your answer. Feel free to revert if you disagree but I think it makes you case clearer (especially since there seems to be confusion about the matter). It seemed too small to write my own answer with and it fits perfectly with what you have already said.
$endgroup$
– Rubiksmoose
Jan 30 at 22:02


















draft saved

draft discarded




















































Thanks for contributing an answer to Role-playing Games Stack Exchange!


  • Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!

But avoid …



  • Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.

  • Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.


Use MathJax to format equations. MathJax reference.


To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.




draft saved


draft discarded














StackExchange.ready(
function () {
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2frpg.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f140211%2fcan-i-cast-nondetection-and-divination-spells-on-myself%23new-answer', 'question_page');
}
);

Post as a guest















Required, but never shown





















































Required, but never shown














Required, but never shown












Required, but never shown







Required, but never shown

































Required, but never shown














Required, but never shown












Required, but never shown







Required, but never shown







-

Popular posts from this blog

How to change which sound is reproduced for terminal bell?

Image
3 Recently upgrade to 18.10 from 18.04, and using the terminal is becoming annoying: the new alert sound is a drip ( /usr/share/sounds/gnome/default/alerts/drip.ogg ), and the previous one is still located at ( /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo/bell.ogg ). My issue is that at the gnome-terminal, when autocompleting or pressing left BOTH sounds are reproduced, at the same time. I want to just have ubuntu/stereo/bell.ogg active, not both . At the moment I have been only able to reduce the volume of the alerts (but still both are played), or turn the alerts down (but I dislike both "solutions"). gnome-terminal 18.10 teminal-bell share | improve this question
Read more

Title Spacing in Bjornstrup Chapter, Removing Chapter Number From Contents

Image
up vote 5 down vote favorite 2 I would like to make it so that the vertical space below the title of each chapter is the same when using the Bjornstrup package (i.e. so that the descenders do not affect the spacing - as shown by the red arrow in the picture below). I think I'm fairly happy with the spacing around "A chapter", so I'd really like titles without descenders (e.g. "Contents") to have the same vertical spacing as "A chapter" below the title. I would also like to remove the large "0" in the contents title. Any help appreciated, as always. documentclass[11pt,a4paper]{book} % Packages[![enter image description here][1]][1] usepackage[left=3.5cm, right=3.5cm, top=4.3cm, bottom=4.25cm]{geometry} usepackage[utf8]{inputenc} usepackage{libertine} usepackage[libertine]{newtx
Read more

Can I use Tabulator js library in my java Spring + Thymeleaf project?

Image
0 I want to add Tabulator js to my java project. I added tabulator.min.js, tabulator.min.css to resources folder. After that added to my html page these dependencies as recommending in readme.md. <link rel="stylesheet" th:href="@{/css/tabulator.min.css}"> <script type="text/javascript" th:src="@{/js/tabulator.min.js}"></script> Now my tables view all elements, that I have in the html page, but not correct. In the documentation of Tabulator is example how to create header and table, var table = new Tabulator("#example-table", { columns:[ {title:"Name", field:"name", sorter:"string", width:200, editor:true}, {title:"Age", field:"age", sorter:"
Read more