Is the Black Bat, a Pakistani Batman, a real character?












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Jenayah mentioned in Chat a question about Asian versions of Batman. This question mentioned a character known as “Black Bat” being described as a Pakistani Batman in the Batmen of All Nations on Wikipedia. However, the claim is unsourced.



Does anyone have any proof that this character ever existed in Batman comics?










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    Black Bat is Cassandra Cain. She's doesn't operate out of Pakistan as far as I'm aware. Barbara Hardy also used the name for a while

    – Valorum
    Jan 23 at 16:19













  • @Valorum I’m asking specifically about a Pakistani Batman

    – Stormblessed
    Jan 23 at 16:24











  • @Stormblessed - Indeed. My point is that that article claims that there's a Black Bat from Pakistan. All signs point to that not being the case. You can also see the lineup of the BoAN here and here

    – Valorum
    Jan 23 at 16:28













  • @Valorum IIRC they added/confirmed some "Batmen of all nations" in the 2000s re-run (Swedish notably), but no Black Bat, as far as I'm aware

    – Jenayah
    Jan 23 at 16:30













  • An anonymous user added the unsourced "Black Bat" to the Wikipedia page, maybe vandalism?

    – Stormblessed
    Jan 23 at 23:46


















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Jenayah mentioned in Chat a question about Asian versions of Batman. This question mentioned a character known as “Black Bat” being described as a Pakistani Batman in the Batmen of All Nations on Wikipedia. However, the claim is unsourced.



Does anyone have any proof that this character ever existed in Batman comics?










share|improve this question




















  • 1





    Black Bat is Cassandra Cain. She's doesn't operate out of Pakistan as far as I'm aware. Barbara Hardy also used the name for a while

    – Valorum
    Jan 23 at 16:19













  • @Valorum I’m asking specifically about a Pakistani Batman

    – Stormblessed
    Jan 23 at 16:24











  • @Stormblessed - Indeed. My point is that that article claims that there's a Black Bat from Pakistan. All signs point to that not being the case. You can also see the lineup of the BoAN here and here

    – Valorum
    Jan 23 at 16:28













  • @Valorum IIRC they added/confirmed some "Batmen of all nations" in the 2000s re-run (Swedish notably), but no Black Bat, as far as I'm aware

    – Jenayah
    Jan 23 at 16:30













  • An anonymous user added the unsourced "Black Bat" to the Wikipedia page, maybe vandalism?

    – Stormblessed
    Jan 23 at 23:46
















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Jenayah mentioned in Chat a question about Asian versions of Batman. This question mentioned a character known as “Black Bat” being described as a Pakistani Batman in the Batmen of All Nations on Wikipedia. However, the claim is unsourced.



Does anyone have any proof that this character ever existed in Batman comics?










share|improve this question
















Jenayah mentioned in Chat a question about Asian versions of Batman. This question mentioned a character known as “Black Bat” being described as a Pakistani Batman in the Batmen of All Nations on Wikipedia. However, the claim is unsourced.



Does anyone have any proof that this character ever existed in Batman comics?







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    Black Bat is Cassandra Cain. She's doesn't operate out of Pakistan as far as I'm aware. Barbara Hardy also used the name for a while

    – Valorum
    Jan 23 at 16:19













  • @Valorum I’m asking specifically about a Pakistani Batman

    – Stormblessed
    Jan 23 at 16:24











  • @Stormblessed - Indeed. My point is that that article claims that there's a Black Bat from Pakistan. All signs point to that not being the case. You can also see the lineup of the BoAN here and here

    – Valorum
    Jan 23 at 16:28













  • @Valorum IIRC they added/confirmed some "Batmen of all nations" in the 2000s re-run (Swedish notably), but no Black Bat, as far as I'm aware

    – Jenayah
    Jan 23 at 16:30













  • An anonymous user added the unsourced "Black Bat" to the Wikipedia page, maybe vandalism?

    – Stormblessed
    Jan 23 at 23:46
















  • 1





    Black Bat is Cassandra Cain. She's doesn't operate out of Pakistan as far as I'm aware. Barbara Hardy also used the name for a while

    – Valorum
    Jan 23 at 16:19













  • @Valorum I’m asking specifically about a Pakistani Batman

    – Stormblessed
    Jan 23 at 16:24











  • @Stormblessed - Indeed. My point is that that article claims that there's a Black Bat from Pakistan. All signs point to that not being the case. You can also see the lineup of the BoAN here and here

    – Valorum
    Jan 23 at 16:28













  • @Valorum IIRC they added/confirmed some "Batmen of all nations" in the 2000s re-run (Swedish notably), but no Black Bat, as far as I'm aware

    – Jenayah
    Jan 23 at 16:30













  • An anonymous user added the unsourced "Black Bat" to the Wikipedia page, maybe vandalism?

    – Stormblessed
    Jan 23 at 23:46










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Black Bat is Cassandra Cain. She's doesn't operate out of Pakistan as far as I'm aware. Barbara Hardy also used the name for a while

– Valorum
Jan 23 at 16:19







Black Bat is Cassandra Cain. She's doesn't operate out of Pakistan as far as I'm aware. Barbara Hardy also used the name for a while

– Valorum
Jan 23 at 16:19















@Valorum I’m asking specifically about a Pakistani Batman

– Stormblessed
Jan 23 at 16:24





@Valorum I’m asking specifically about a Pakistani Batman

– Stormblessed
Jan 23 at 16:24













@Stormblessed - Indeed. My point is that that article claims that there's a Black Bat from Pakistan. All signs point to that not being the case. You can also see the lineup of the BoAN here and here

– Valorum
Jan 23 at 16:28







@Stormblessed - Indeed. My point is that that article claims that there's a Black Bat from Pakistan. All signs point to that not being the case. You can also see the lineup of the BoAN here and here

– Valorum
Jan 23 at 16:28















@Valorum IIRC they added/confirmed some "Batmen of all nations" in the 2000s re-run (Swedish notably), but no Black Bat, as far as I'm aware

– Jenayah
Jan 23 at 16:30







@Valorum IIRC they added/confirmed some "Batmen of all nations" in the 2000s re-run (Swedish notably), but no Black Bat, as far as I'm aware

– Jenayah
Jan 23 at 16:30















An anonymous user added the unsourced "Black Bat" to the Wikipedia page, maybe vandalism?

– Stormblessed
Jan 23 at 23:46







An anonymous user added the unsourced "Black Bat" to the Wikipedia page, maybe vandalism?

– Stormblessed
Jan 23 at 23:46












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They do not appear to have existed



I remember looking for this one back when the linked question was posted and finding nothing and looking again today I found nothing indicating there has ever been a Pakistani Batman.



To start the DC Database page on Black Bat mentions only the following characters:



Cassandra Cain



Considering the below description it is entirely possible that the Wikipedia editor misinterpreted Cassandra to be Pakistani or just assumed it and she is also the most likely candidate it is referring to.




Cassandra was the first Batgirl to star in her own ongoing Batgirl comic book series, an Asian character who was replaced as Batgirl by Stephanie Brown in a 2009 storyline. She returned in late 2010, where she was shown working as an anonymous agent of Batman in Hong Kong before adopting the new moniker of Black Bat.



Wikipedia, Cassandra Cain





Barbara Hardy (Amalgam Universe)



Another character named "Black Bat" but she is not Pakistani or even Asian.




Barbara Gordon Hardy was an ex-thief who was determined to become a S.H.I.E.L.D. agent. Using her natural athletic skills to fight crime, she created a superheroic identity, the Black Bat. She quickly proved her worth to S.H.I.E.L.D. agent Bruce Wayne. Barbara was invited to join the secret organization.




Sam Braxton



Sam is only mentioned to have used this alias during the American Civil War and so unlikely to be a candidate for a Pakistani Batman but no citation is given.



Looking a bit further we can see Black Bat was only added to Wikipedia on 17 August 2018 by an anonymous user, see the revision here. Therefore, as it is uncited it could be this user was trolling/vandalising the page, has some obscure knowledge that "only they" know or are just misguided and got confused. Either way as they provide no citation/source it is more likely to be false.



And on a side note maybe the editor assumed this was real: What if your favourite superheroes were Pakistani? Find out here.






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    I think it's important to note that Barbara Hardy is from the Amalgam Universe combining Black Cat (Marvel) and Batgirl (DC). I was so confused when it started talking about S.H.I.E.L.D.

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    Jan 23 at 17:26











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They do not appear to have existed



I remember looking for this one back when the linked question was posted and finding nothing and looking again today I found nothing indicating there has ever been a Pakistani Batman.



To start the DC Database page on Black Bat mentions only the following characters:



Cassandra Cain



Considering the below description it is entirely possible that the Wikipedia editor misinterpreted Cassandra to be Pakistani or just assumed it and she is also the most likely candidate it is referring to.




Cassandra was the first Batgirl to star in her own ongoing Batgirl comic book series, an Asian character who was replaced as Batgirl by Stephanie Brown in a 2009 storyline. She returned in late 2010, where she was shown working as an anonymous agent of Batman in Hong Kong before adopting the new moniker of Black Bat.



Wikipedia, Cassandra Cain





Barbara Hardy (Amalgam Universe)



Another character named "Black Bat" but she is not Pakistani or even Asian.




Barbara Gordon Hardy was an ex-thief who was determined to become a S.H.I.E.L.D. agent. Using her natural athletic skills to fight crime, she created a superheroic identity, the Black Bat. She quickly proved her worth to S.H.I.E.L.D. agent Bruce Wayne. Barbara was invited to join the secret organization.




Sam Braxton



Sam is only mentioned to have used this alias during the American Civil War and so unlikely to be a candidate for a Pakistani Batman but no citation is given.



Looking a bit further we can see Black Bat was only added to Wikipedia on 17 August 2018 by an anonymous user, see the revision here. Therefore, as it is uncited it could be this user was trolling/vandalising the page, has some obscure knowledge that "only they" know or are just misguided and got confused. Either way as they provide no citation/source it is more likely to be false.



And on a side note maybe the editor assumed this was real: What if your favourite superheroes were Pakistani? Find out here.






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    I think it's important to note that Barbara Hardy is from the Amalgam Universe combining Black Cat (Marvel) and Batgirl (DC). I was so confused when it started talking about S.H.I.E.L.D.

    – eshier
    Jan 23 at 17:26
















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They do not appear to have existed



I remember looking for this one back when the linked question was posted and finding nothing and looking again today I found nothing indicating there has ever been a Pakistani Batman.



To start the DC Database page on Black Bat mentions only the following characters:



Cassandra Cain



Considering the below description it is entirely possible that the Wikipedia editor misinterpreted Cassandra to be Pakistani or just assumed it and she is also the most likely candidate it is referring to.




Cassandra was the first Batgirl to star in her own ongoing Batgirl comic book series, an Asian character who was replaced as Batgirl by Stephanie Brown in a 2009 storyline. She returned in late 2010, where she was shown working as an anonymous agent of Batman in Hong Kong before adopting the new moniker of Black Bat.



Wikipedia, Cassandra Cain





Barbara Hardy (Amalgam Universe)



Another character named "Black Bat" but she is not Pakistani or even Asian.




Barbara Gordon Hardy was an ex-thief who was determined to become a S.H.I.E.L.D. agent. Using her natural athletic skills to fight crime, she created a superheroic identity, the Black Bat. She quickly proved her worth to S.H.I.E.L.D. agent Bruce Wayne. Barbara was invited to join the secret organization.




Sam Braxton



Sam is only mentioned to have used this alias during the American Civil War and so unlikely to be a candidate for a Pakistani Batman but no citation is given.



Looking a bit further we can see Black Bat was only added to Wikipedia on 17 August 2018 by an anonymous user, see the revision here. Therefore, as it is uncited it could be this user was trolling/vandalising the page, has some obscure knowledge that "only they" know or are just misguided and got confused. Either way as they provide no citation/source it is more likely to be false.



And on a side note maybe the editor assumed this was real: What if your favourite superheroes were Pakistani? Find out here.






share|improve this answer





















  • 4





    I think it's important to note that Barbara Hardy is from the Amalgam Universe combining Black Cat (Marvel) and Batgirl (DC). I was so confused when it started talking about S.H.I.E.L.D.

    – eshier
    Jan 23 at 17:26














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They do not appear to have existed



I remember looking for this one back when the linked question was posted and finding nothing and looking again today I found nothing indicating there has ever been a Pakistani Batman.



To start the DC Database page on Black Bat mentions only the following characters:



Cassandra Cain



Considering the below description it is entirely possible that the Wikipedia editor misinterpreted Cassandra to be Pakistani or just assumed it and she is also the most likely candidate it is referring to.




Cassandra was the first Batgirl to star in her own ongoing Batgirl comic book series, an Asian character who was replaced as Batgirl by Stephanie Brown in a 2009 storyline. She returned in late 2010, where she was shown working as an anonymous agent of Batman in Hong Kong before adopting the new moniker of Black Bat.



Wikipedia, Cassandra Cain





Barbara Hardy (Amalgam Universe)



Another character named "Black Bat" but she is not Pakistani or even Asian.




Barbara Gordon Hardy was an ex-thief who was determined to become a S.H.I.E.L.D. agent. Using her natural athletic skills to fight crime, she created a superheroic identity, the Black Bat. She quickly proved her worth to S.H.I.E.L.D. agent Bruce Wayne. Barbara was invited to join the secret organization.




Sam Braxton



Sam is only mentioned to have used this alias during the American Civil War and so unlikely to be a candidate for a Pakistani Batman but no citation is given.



Looking a bit further we can see Black Bat was only added to Wikipedia on 17 August 2018 by an anonymous user, see the revision here. Therefore, as it is uncited it could be this user was trolling/vandalising the page, has some obscure knowledge that "only they" know or are just misguided and got confused. Either way as they provide no citation/source it is more likely to be false.



And on a side note maybe the editor assumed this was real: What if your favourite superheroes were Pakistani? Find out here.






share|improve this answer















They do not appear to have existed



I remember looking for this one back when the linked question was posted and finding nothing and looking again today I found nothing indicating there has ever been a Pakistani Batman.



To start the DC Database page on Black Bat mentions only the following characters:



Cassandra Cain



Considering the below description it is entirely possible that the Wikipedia editor misinterpreted Cassandra to be Pakistani or just assumed it and she is also the most likely candidate it is referring to.




Cassandra was the first Batgirl to star in her own ongoing Batgirl comic book series, an Asian character who was replaced as Batgirl by Stephanie Brown in a 2009 storyline. She returned in late 2010, where she was shown working as an anonymous agent of Batman in Hong Kong before adopting the new moniker of Black Bat.



Wikipedia, Cassandra Cain





Barbara Hardy (Amalgam Universe)



Another character named "Black Bat" but she is not Pakistani or even Asian.




Barbara Gordon Hardy was an ex-thief who was determined to become a S.H.I.E.L.D. agent. Using her natural athletic skills to fight crime, she created a superheroic identity, the Black Bat. She quickly proved her worth to S.H.I.E.L.D. agent Bruce Wayne. Barbara was invited to join the secret organization.




Sam Braxton



Sam is only mentioned to have used this alias during the American Civil War and so unlikely to be a candidate for a Pakistani Batman but no citation is given.



Looking a bit further we can see Black Bat was only added to Wikipedia on 17 August 2018 by an anonymous user, see the revision here. Therefore, as it is uncited it could be this user was trolling/vandalising the page, has some obscure knowledge that "only they" know or are just misguided and got confused. Either way as they provide no citation/source it is more likely to be false.



And on a side note maybe the editor assumed this was real: What if your favourite superheroes were Pakistani? Find out here.







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    I think it's important to note that Barbara Hardy is from the Amalgam Universe combining Black Cat (Marvel) and Batgirl (DC). I was so confused when it started talking about S.H.I.E.L.D.

    – eshier
    Jan 23 at 17:26














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    I think it's important to note that Barbara Hardy is from the Amalgam Universe combining Black Cat (Marvel) and Batgirl (DC). I was so confused when it started talking about S.H.I.E.L.D.

    – eshier
    Jan 23 at 17:26








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I think it's important to note that Barbara Hardy is from the Amalgam Universe combining Black Cat (Marvel) and Batgirl (DC). I was so confused when it started talking about S.H.I.E.L.D.

– eshier
Jan 23 at 17:26





I think it's important to note that Barbara Hardy is from the Amalgam Universe combining Black Cat (Marvel) and Batgirl (DC). I was so confused when it started talking about S.H.I.E.L.D.

– eshier
Jan 23 at 17:26


















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