Does this video of collapsing warehouse shelves show a real incident?
This video seems to show a minor bump by a fork lift causing multiple rows of shelving to collapse, burying the fork lift and operator.
Is this a real incident, or a faked video? The video has been posted on many news sites, but I can't find anything (even on Snopes) about where it happened.
It's possible that the video is of an incident in 2016 at a cheese warehouse in Shropshire; the shelving looks to be of a similar design, but the colours don't match.
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This video seems to show a minor bump by a fork lift causing multiple rows of shelving to collapse, burying the fork lift and operator.
Is this a real incident, or a faked video? The video has been posted on many news sites, but I can't find anything (even on Snopes) about where it happened.
It's possible that the video is of an incident in 2016 at a cheese warehouse in Shropshire; the shelving looks to be of a similar design, but the colours don't match.
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edited Mar 16 at 21:52
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asked Mar 11 at 14:44
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Looking for an answer drawing from credible and/or official sources.
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On one hand, if it's real, somebody's failed real hard on constructing those shelves and deserves a life sentence for intentionally placing a death trap at the workspace. On the other, if it's fake, how was it filmed?
– John Dvorak
Mar 11 at 16:14
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Definitely not the cheese warehouse as this article says there were no CCTV cameras in use there. shropshirestar.com/news/local-hubs/north-shropshire/…
– Legion600
Mar 11 at 16:52
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The timestamp says "04 07 2017 Tues" which means it's supposed to be July 4th, 2017. The first known instance of this video online was November 18th, 2018 at the Facebook link shown in the images here.
– Laurel
Mar 11 at 18:27
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@fredsbend That's a Friday, so no.
– Laurel
Mar 11 at 20:24
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I can't vet this actual video, but I've personally witnessed a similar collapse and this video is pretty much identical to what I saw. This video could have emerged from a "warehouse safety" source which anonymized the source so companies would be willing to share the footage without branding themselves as flawed.
– Flater
Mar 12 at 10:55
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This video seems to show a minor bump by a fork lift causing multiple rows of shelving to collapse, burying the fork lift and operator.
Is this a real incident, or a faked video? The video has been posted on many news sites, but I can't find anything (even on Snopes) about where it happened.
It's possible that the video is of an incident in 2016 at a cheese warehouse in Shropshire; the shelving looks to be of a similar design, but the colours don't match.
video engineering
edited Mar 16 at 21:52
Evan Carroll
12.3k2880162
asked Mar 11 at 14:44
Paul JohnsonPaul Johnson
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This video seems to show a minor bump by a fork lift causing multiple rows of shelving to collapse, burying the fork lift and operator.
Is this a real incident, or a faked video? The video has been posted on many news sites, but I can't find anything (even on Snopes) about where it happened.
It's possible that the video is of an incident in 2016 at a cheese warehouse in Shropshire; the shelving looks to be of a similar design, but the colours don't match.
video engineering
video engineering
edited Mar 16 at 21:52
Evan Carroll
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asked Mar 11 at 14:44
Paul JohnsonPaul Johnson
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edited Mar 16 at 21:52
Evan Carroll
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asked Mar 11 at 14:44
Paul JohnsonPaul Johnson
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edited Mar 16 at 21:52
Evan Carroll
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edited Mar 16 at 21:52
Evan Carroll
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edited Mar 16 at 21:52
Evan Carroll
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asked Mar 11 at 14:44
Paul JohnsonPaul Johnson
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asked Mar 11 at 14:44
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Looking for an answer drawing from credible and/or official sources.
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Looking for an answer drawing from credible and/or official sources.
The ideal answer will either point to clear evidence that the video is a fake or will identify a the incident shown.
4
On one hand, if it's real, somebody's failed real hard on constructing those shelves and deserves a life sentence for intentionally placing a death trap at the workspace. On the other, if it's fake, how was it filmed?
– John Dvorak
Mar 11 at 16:14
2
Definitely not the cheese warehouse as this article says there were no CCTV cameras in use there. shropshirestar.com/news/local-hubs/north-shropshire/…
– Legion600
Mar 11 at 16:52
3
The timestamp says "04 07 2017 Tues" which means it's supposed to be July 4th, 2017. The first known instance of this video online was November 18th, 2018 at the Facebook link shown in the images here.
– Laurel
Mar 11 at 18:27
3
@fredsbend That's a Friday, so no.
– Laurel
Mar 11 at 20:24
4
I can't vet this actual video, but I've personally witnessed a similar collapse and this video is pretty much identical to what I saw. This video could have emerged from a "warehouse safety" source which anonymized the source so companies would be willing to share the footage without branding themselves as flawed.
– Flater
Mar 12 at 10:55
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On one hand, if it's real, somebody's failed real hard on constructing those shelves and deserves a life sentence for intentionally placing a death trap at the workspace. On the other, if it's fake, how was it filmed?
– John Dvorak
Mar 11 at 16:14
2
Definitely not the cheese warehouse as this article says there were no CCTV cameras in use there. shropshirestar.com/news/local-hubs/north-shropshire/…
– Legion600
Mar 11 at 16:52
3
The timestamp says "04 07 2017 Tues" which means it's supposed to be July 4th, 2017. The first known instance of this video online was November 18th, 2018 at the Facebook link shown in the images here.
– Laurel
Mar 11 at 18:27
3
@fredsbend That's a Friday, so no.
– Laurel
Mar 11 at 20:24
4
I can't vet this actual video, but I've personally witnessed a similar collapse and this video is pretty much identical to what I saw. This video could have emerged from a "warehouse safety" source which anonymized the source so companies would be willing to share the footage without branding themselves as flawed.
– Flater
Mar 12 at 10:55
4
4
On one hand, if it's real, somebody's failed real hard on constructing those shelves and deserves a life sentence for intentionally placing a death trap at the workspace. On the other, if it's fake, how was it filmed?
– John Dvorak
Mar 11 at 16:14
On one hand, if it's real, somebody's failed real hard on constructing those shelves and deserves a life sentence for intentionally placing a death trap at the workspace. On the other, if it's fake, how was it filmed?
– John Dvorak
Mar 11 at 16:14
2
2
Definitely not the cheese warehouse as this article says there were no CCTV cameras in use there. shropshirestar.com/news/local-hubs/north-shropshire/…
– Legion600
Mar 11 at 16:52
Definitely not the cheese warehouse as this article says there were no CCTV cameras in use there. shropshirestar.com/news/local-hubs/north-shropshire/…
– Legion600
Mar 11 at 16:52
3
3
The timestamp says "04 07 2017 Tues" which means it's supposed to be July 4th, 2017. The first known instance of this video online was November 18th, 2018 at the Facebook link shown in the images here.
– Laurel
Mar 11 at 18:27
The timestamp says "04 07 2017 Tues" which means it's supposed to be July 4th, 2017. The first known instance of this video online was November 18th, 2018 at the Facebook link shown in the images here.
– Laurel
Mar 11 at 18:27
3
3
@fredsbend That's a Friday, so no.
– Laurel
Mar 11 at 20:24
@fredsbend That's a Friday, so no.
– Laurel
Mar 11 at 20:24
4
4
I can't vet this actual video, but I've personally witnessed a similar collapse and this video is pretty much identical to what I saw. This video could have emerged from a "warehouse safety" source which anonymized the source so companies would be willing to share the footage without branding themselves as flawed.
– Flater
Mar 12 at 10:55
I can't vet this actual video, but I've personally witnessed a similar collapse and this video is pretty much identical to what I saw. This video could have emerged from a "warehouse safety" source which anonymized the source so companies would be willing to share the footage without branding themselves as flawed.
– Flater
Mar 12 at 10:55
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I do not know if this video depicts a real incident, but it does show one type of disaster that can happen in a warehouse with overloaded shelves. I don't see any reason to believe it was faked.
The Daily Mail says that the video was uploaded to youtube without any description of where it happened. They are asking the public if they know where the footage was filmed.
The time stamp on the footage indicates it was taken in July of 2017. This Reddit thread has identified a couple of incidents that it is NOT. It is not the 2016 collapse of shelving in a cheese warehouse in Shropshire, England. Nor was it the 2016 collapse of shelving in Manassas, Virginia. Nor was it this incident in Russia. All three of these incidents show a cascading collapse of shelves caused by a small bump from a forklift.
The type of failure that started the shelving collapse is called buckling. The beams that support the shelves are loaded in compression. If the compression force is high enough and the beam is pushed out to the side a little, it can trigger a sudden collapse.
Once a single support buckles, the load it was carrying is transferred to adjacent beams, and they collapse as well. Shelves are designed to hold up a certain amount of load before buckling becomes an danger.
If the warehouse manager exceeds that load, this can happen. It is quite possible that the warehouse managers were negligent and there are criminal or civil cases tied to this collapse.
answered Mar 11 at 18:29
BobTheAverageBobTheAverage
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It should be noted that a setup like this, with little protection against shelving collapse, would almost certainly be in violation of OHSA regulations in the US, making it unlikely the video is from the US. (I say "unlikely" because OHSA violations do occur, but one as egregious as this would be hard to keep hidden.)
– Daniel R Hicks
Mar 11 at 19:57
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@DanielRHicks One of the three linked incidents was in the US. Another was in the UK, which I assume has its own version of OSHA. I do not think your comment is accurate.
– BobTheAverage
Mar 11 at 20:24
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The better argument for it likely not having occurred in the US is that the date stamp in the video is day/month/year - which is common almost everywhere BUT the US, where the most common style is month/day/year.
– cpcodes
Mar 11 at 23:25
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@DanielRHicks, everywhere around the world has their equivalent of OHSA, and everywhere there are managers who tolerate or even order violating it. Some places have more of them (and less oversight), but all places have some, including the USA.
– Jan Hudec
Mar 12 at 6:36
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The user who uploaded that video has a user name and other uploaded videos that imply he is a South African. There is a South African company called Makro, a wholesaler to the public (now part of MassMart), which has yellow staff uniforms like the shirts the guys in the video are wearing.
– mccdyl001
Mar 12 at 10:12
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I do not know if this video depicts a real incident, but it does show one type of disaster that can happen in a warehouse with overloaded shelves. I don't see any reason to believe it was faked.
The Daily Mail says that the video was uploaded to youtube without any description of where it happened. They are asking the public if they know where the footage was filmed.
The time stamp on the footage indicates it was taken in July of 2017. This Reddit thread has identified a couple of incidents that it is NOT. It is not the 2016 collapse of shelving in a cheese warehouse in Shropshire, England. Nor was it the 2016 collapse of shelving in Manassas, Virginia. Nor was it this incident in Russia. All three of these incidents show a cascading collapse of shelves caused by a small bump from a forklift.
The type of failure that started the shelving collapse is called buckling. The beams that support the shelves are loaded in compression. If the compression force is high enough and the beam is pushed out to the side a little, it can trigger a sudden collapse.
Once a single support buckles, the load it was carrying is transferred to adjacent beams, and they collapse as well. Shelves are designed to hold up a certain amount of load before buckling becomes an danger.
If the warehouse manager exceeds that load, this can happen. It is quite possible that the warehouse managers were negligent and there are criminal or civil cases tied to this collapse.
answered Mar 11 at 18:29
BobTheAverageBobTheAverage
9,92662640
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It should be noted that a setup like this, with little protection against shelving collapse, would almost certainly be in violation of OHSA regulations in the US, making it unlikely the video is from the US. (I say "unlikely" because OHSA violations do occur, but one as egregious as this would be hard to keep hidden.)
– Daniel R Hicks
Mar 11 at 19:57
14
@DanielRHicks One of the three linked incidents was in the US. Another was in the UK, which I assume has its own version of OSHA. I do not think your comment is accurate.
– BobTheAverage
Mar 11 at 20:24
33
The better argument for it likely not having occurred in the US is that the date stamp in the video is day/month/year - which is common almost everywhere BUT the US, where the most common style is month/day/year.
– cpcodes
Mar 11 at 23:25
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@DanielRHicks, everywhere around the world has their equivalent of OHSA, and everywhere there are managers who tolerate or even order violating it. Some places have more of them (and less oversight), but all places have some, including the USA.
– Jan Hudec
Mar 12 at 6:36
7
The user who uploaded that video has a user name and other uploaded videos that imply he is a South African. There is a South African company called Makro, a wholesaler to the public (now part of MassMart), which has yellow staff uniforms like the shirts the guys in the video are wearing.
– mccdyl001
Mar 12 at 10:12
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show 9 more comments
I do not know if this video depicts a real incident, but it does show one type of disaster that can happen in a warehouse with overloaded shelves. I don't see any reason to believe it was faked.
The Daily Mail says that the video was uploaded to youtube without any description of where it happened. They are asking the public if they know where the footage was filmed.
The time stamp on the footage indicates it was taken in July of 2017. This Reddit thread has identified a couple of incidents that it is NOT. It is not the 2016 collapse of shelving in a cheese warehouse in Shropshire, England. Nor was it the 2016 collapse of shelving in Manassas, Virginia. Nor was it this incident in Russia. All three of these incidents show a cascading collapse of shelves caused by a small bump from a forklift.
The type of failure that started the shelving collapse is called buckling. The beams that support the shelves are loaded in compression. If the compression force is high enough and the beam is pushed out to the side a little, it can trigger a sudden collapse.
Once a single support buckles, the load it was carrying is transferred to adjacent beams, and they collapse as well. Shelves are designed to hold up a certain amount of load before buckling becomes an danger.
If the warehouse manager exceeds that load, this can happen. It is quite possible that the warehouse managers were negligent and there are criminal or civil cases tied to this collapse.
answered Mar 11 at 18:29
BobTheAverageBobTheAverage
9,92662640
5
It should be noted that a setup like this, with little protection against shelving collapse, would almost certainly be in violation of OHSA regulations in the US, making it unlikely the video is from the US. (I say "unlikely" because OHSA violations do occur, but one as egregious as this would be hard to keep hidden.)
– Daniel R Hicks
Mar 11 at 19:57
14
@DanielRHicks One of the three linked incidents was in the US. Another was in the UK, which I assume has its own version of OSHA. I do not think your comment is accurate.
– BobTheAverage
Mar 11 at 20:24
33
The better argument for it likely not having occurred in the US is that the date stamp in the video is day/month/year - which is common almost everywhere BUT the US, where the most common style is month/day/year.
– cpcodes
Mar 11 at 23:25
9
@DanielRHicks, everywhere around the world has their equivalent of OHSA, and everywhere there are managers who tolerate or even order violating it. Some places have more of them (and less oversight), but all places have some, including the USA.
– Jan Hudec
Mar 12 at 6:36
7
The user who uploaded that video has a user name and other uploaded videos that imply he is a South African. There is a South African company called Makro, a wholesaler to the public (now part of MassMart), which has yellow staff uniforms like the shirts the guys in the video are wearing.
– mccdyl001
Mar 12 at 10:12
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show 9 more comments
I do not know if this video depicts a real incident, but it does show one type of disaster that can happen in a warehouse with overloaded shelves. I don't see any reason to believe it was faked.
The Daily Mail says that the video was uploaded to youtube without any description of where it happened. They are asking the public if they know where the footage was filmed.
The time stamp on the footage indicates it was taken in July of 2017. This Reddit thread has identified a couple of incidents that it is NOT. It is not the 2016 collapse of shelving in a cheese warehouse in Shropshire, England. Nor was it the 2016 collapse of shelving in Manassas, Virginia. Nor was it this incident in Russia. All three of these incidents show a cascading collapse of shelves caused by a small bump from a forklift.
The type of failure that started the shelving collapse is called buckling. The beams that support the shelves are loaded in compression. If the compression force is high enough and the beam is pushed out to the side a little, it can trigger a sudden collapse.
Once a single support buckles, the load it was carrying is transferred to adjacent beams, and they collapse as well. Shelves are designed to hold up a certain amount of load before buckling becomes an danger.
If the warehouse manager exceeds that load, this can happen. It is quite possible that the warehouse managers were negligent and there are criminal or civil cases tied to this collapse.
answered Mar 11 at 18:29
BobTheAverageBobTheAverage
9,92662640
I do not know if this video depicts a real incident, but it does show one type of disaster that can happen in a warehouse with overloaded shelves. I don't see any reason to believe it was faked.
The Daily Mail says that the video was uploaded to youtube without any description of where it happened. They are asking the public if they know where the footage was filmed.
The time stamp on the footage indicates it was taken in July of 2017. This Reddit thread has identified a couple of incidents that it is NOT. It is not the 2016 collapse of shelving in a cheese warehouse in Shropshire, England. Nor was it the 2016 collapse of shelving in Manassas, Virginia. Nor was it this incident in Russia. All three of these incidents show a cascading collapse of shelves caused by a small bump from a forklift.
The type of failure that started the shelving collapse is called buckling. The beams that support the shelves are loaded in compression. If the compression force is high enough and the beam is pushed out to the side a little, it can trigger a sudden collapse.
Once a single support buckles, the load it was carrying is transferred to adjacent beams, and they collapse as well. Shelves are designed to hold up a certain amount of load before buckling becomes an danger.
If the warehouse manager exceeds that load, this can happen. It is quite possible that the warehouse managers were negligent and there are criminal or civil cases tied to this collapse.
answered Mar 11 at 18:29
BobTheAverageBobTheAverage
9,92662640
edited Mar 11 at 18:36
answered Mar 11 at 18:29
BobTheAverageBobTheAverage
9,92662640
answered Mar 11 at 18:29
BobTheAverageBobTheAverage
9,92662640
answered Mar 11 at 18:29
BobTheAverageBobTheAverage
9,92662640
9,92662640
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It should be noted that a setup like this, with little protection against shelving collapse, would almost certainly be in violation of OHSA regulations in the US, making it unlikely the video is from the US. (I say "unlikely" because OHSA violations do occur, but one as egregious as this would be hard to keep hidden.)
– Daniel R Hicks
Mar 11 at 19:57
14
@DanielRHicks One of the three linked incidents was in the US. Another was in the UK, which I assume has its own version of OSHA. I do not think your comment is accurate.
– BobTheAverage
Mar 11 at 20:24
33
The better argument for it likely not having occurred in the US is that the date stamp in the video is day/month/year - which is common almost everywhere BUT the US, where the most common style is month/day/year.
– cpcodes
Mar 11 at 23:25
9
@DanielRHicks, everywhere around the world has their equivalent of OHSA, and everywhere there are managers who tolerate or even order violating it. Some places have more of them (and less oversight), but all places have some, including the USA.
– Jan Hudec
Mar 12 at 6:36
7
The user who uploaded that video has a user name and other uploaded videos that imply he is a South African. There is a South African company called Makro, a wholesaler to the public (now part of MassMart), which has yellow staff uniforms like the shirts the guys in the video are wearing.
– mccdyl001
Mar 12 at 10:12
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show 9 more comments
5
It should be noted that a setup like this, with little protection against shelving collapse, would almost certainly be in violation of OHSA regulations in the US, making it unlikely the video is from the US. (I say "unlikely" because OHSA violations do occur, but one as egregious as this would be hard to keep hidden.)
– Daniel R Hicks
Mar 11 at 19:57
14
@DanielRHicks One of the three linked incidents was in the US. Another was in the UK, which I assume has its own version of OSHA. I do not think your comment is accurate.
– BobTheAverage
Mar 11 at 20:24
33
The better argument for it likely not having occurred in the US is that the date stamp in the video is day/month/year - which is common almost everywhere BUT the US, where the most common style is month/day/year.
– cpcodes
Mar 11 at 23:25
9
@DanielRHicks, everywhere around the world has their equivalent of OHSA, and everywhere there are managers who tolerate or even order violating it. Some places have more of them (and less oversight), but all places have some, including the USA.
– Jan Hudec
Mar 12 at 6:36
7
The user who uploaded that video has a user name and other uploaded videos that imply he is a South African. There is a South African company called Makro, a wholesaler to the public (now part of MassMart), which has yellow staff uniforms like the shirts the guys in the video are wearing.
– mccdyl001
Mar 12 at 10:12
5
5
It should be noted that a setup like this, with little protection against shelving collapse, would almost certainly be in violation of OHSA regulations in the US, making it unlikely the video is from the US. (I say "unlikely" because OHSA violations do occur, but one as egregious as this would be hard to keep hidden.)
– Daniel R Hicks
Mar 11 at 19:57
It should be noted that a setup like this, with little protection against shelving collapse, would almost certainly be in violation of OHSA regulations in the US, making it unlikely the video is from the US. (I say "unlikely" because OHSA violations do occur, but one as egregious as this would be hard to keep hidden.)
– Daniel R Hicks
Mar 11 at 19:57
14
14
@DanielRHicks One of the three linked incidents was in the US. Another was in the UK, which I assume has its own version of OSHA. I do not think your comment is accurate.
– BobTheAverage
Mar 11 at 20:24
@DanielRHicks One of the three linked incidents was in the US. Another was in the UK, which I assume has its own version of OSHA. I do not think your comment is accurate.
– BobTheAverage
Mar 11 at 20:24
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The better argument for it likely not having occurred in the US is that the date stamp in the video is day/month/year - which is common almost everywhere BUT the US, where the most common style is month/day/year.
– cpcodes
Mar 11 at 23:25
The better argument for it likely not having occurred in the US is that the date stamp in the video is day/month/year - which is common almost everywhere BUT the US, where the most common style is month/day/year.
– cpcodes
Mar 11 at 23:25
9
9
@DanielRHicks, everywhere around the world has their equivalent of OHSA, and everywhere there are managers who tolerate or even order violating it. Some places have more of them (and less oversight), but all places have some, including the USA.
– Jan Hudec
Mar 12 at 6:36
@DanielRHicks, everywhere around the world has their equivalent of OHSA, and everywhere there are managers who tolerate or even order violating it. Some places have more of them (and less oversight), but all places have some, including the USA.
– Jan Hudec
Mar 12 at 6:36
7
7
The user who uploaded that video has a user name and other uploaded videos that imply he is a South African. There is a South African company called Makro, a wholesaler to the public (now part of MassMart), which has yellow staff uniforms like the shirts the guys in the video are wearing.
– mccdyl001
Mar 12 at 10:12
The user who uploaded that video has a user name and other uploaded videos that imply he is a South African. There is a South African company called Makro, a wholesaler to the public (now part of MassMart), which has yellow staff uniforms like the shirts the guys in the video are wearing.
– mccdyl001
Mar 12 at 10:12
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show 9 more comments
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On one hand, if it's real, somebody's failed real hard on constructing those shelves and deserves a life sentence for intentionally placing a death trap at the workspace. On the other, if it's fake, how was it filmed?
– John Dvorak
Mar 11 at 16:14
2
Definitely not the cheese warehouse as this article says there were no CCTV cameras in use there. shropshirestar.com/news/local-hubs/north-shropshire/…
– Legion600
Mar 11 at 16:52
3
The timestamp says "04 07 2017 Tues" which means it's supposed to be July 4th, 2017. The first known instance of this video online was November 18th, 2018 at the Facebook link shown in the images here.
– Laurel
Mar 11 at 18:27
3
@fredsbend That's a Friday, so no.
– Laurel
Mar 11 at 20:24
4
I can't vet this actual video, but I've personally witnessed a similar collapse and this video is pretty much identical to what I saw. This video could have emerged from a "warehouse safety" source which anonymized the source so companies would be willing to share the footage without branding themselves as flawed.
– Flater
Mar 12 at 10:55