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Three circles touch one another externally.The tangents at their points of contact meet a point whose distance from a point of contact is 4.How to find ratio of product of the radii to the sum of radii of the circle?



I assumed the general 2nd degree equations of the three circles as $S_1,S_2$ and $S_3$.Found the three common tangent equations.How to proceed from there?Thanks.










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    Suppose the lines make angles $alpha$, $beta$, $gamma$ (with $alpha + beta + gamma = 2pi$). Express the radii in terms of trig functions of $alpha/2$, etc, (and the distance $4$), and simplify.
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    @Blue I'm not being able to simplify.Please write out atleast a few steps..
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Three circles touch one another externally.The tangents at their points of contact meet a point whose distance from a point of contact is 4.How to find ratio of product of the radii to the sum of radii of the circle?



I assumed the general 2nd degree equations of the three circles as $S_1,S_2$ and $S_3$.Found the three common tangent equations.How to proceed from there?Thanks.










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  • $begingroup$
    Suppose the lines make angles $alpha$, $beta$, $gamma$ (with $alpha + beta + gamma = 2pi$). Express the radii in terms of trig functions of $alpha/2$, etc, (and the distance $4$), and simplify.
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    – Blue
    Sep 15 '15 at 20:01










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    @Blue I'm not being able to simplify.Please write out atleast a few steps..
    $endgroup$
    – user220382
    Sep 15 '15 at 21:37














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Three circles touch one another externally.The tangents at their points of contact meet a point whose distance from a point of contact is 4.How to find ratio of product of the radii to the sum of radii of the circle?



I assumed the general 2nd degree equations of the three circles as $S_1,S_2$ and $S_3$.Found the three common tangent equations.How to proceed from there?Thanks.










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Three circles touch one another externally.The tangents at their points of contact meet a point whose distance from a point of contact is 4.How to find ratio of product of the radii to the sum of radii of the circle?



I assumed the general 2nd degree equations of the three circles as $S_1,S_2$ and $S_3$.Found the three common tangent equations.How to proceed from there?Thanks.







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  • $begingroup$
    Suppose the lines make angles $alpha$, $beta$, $gamma$ (with $alpha + beta + gamma = 2pi$). Express the radii in terms of trig functions of $alpha/2$, etc, (and the distance $4$), and simplify.
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    – Blue
    Sep 15 '15 at 20:01










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    @Blue I'm not being able to simplify.Please write out atleast a few steps..
    $endgroup$
    – user220382
    Sep 15 '15 at 21:37


















  • $begingroup$
    Suppose the lines make angles $alpha$, $beta$, $gamma$ (with $alpha + beta + gamma = 2pi$). Express the radii in terms of trig functions of $alpha/2$, etc, (and the distance $4$), and simplify.
    $endgroup$
    – Blue
    Sep 15 '15 at 20:01










  • $begingroup$
    @Blue I'm not being able to simplify.Please write out atleast a few steps..
    $endgroup$
    – user220382
    Sep 15 '15 at 21:37
















$begingroup$
Suppose the lines make angles $alpha$, $beta$, $gamma$ (with $alpha + beta + gamma = 2pi$). Express the radii in terms of trig functions of $alpha/2$, etc, (and the distance $4$), and simplify.
$endgroup$
– Blue
Sep 15 '15 at 20:01




$begingroup$
Suppose the lines make angles $alpha$, $beta$, $gamma$ (with $alpha + beta + gamma = 2pi$). Express the radii in terms of trig functions of $alpha/2$, etc, (and the distance $4$), and simplify.
$endgroup$
– Blue
Sep 15 '15 at 20:01












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@Blue I'm not being able to simplify.Please write out atleast a few steps..
$endgroup$
– user220382
Sep 15 '15 at 21:37




$begingroup$
@Blue I'm not being able to simplify.Please write out atleast a few steps..
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– user220382
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If the angles made by the lines at their common point are $2alpha$, $2beta$, $2 gamma$ (where their sum is $2pi$), then the three radii are pretty clearly
$$d tan alpha qquad dtan beta qquad d tan gamma$$
where $d$ is the distance from the point of intersection to any of the points of tangency. (In the given problem, $d=4$.) The product of the radii is trivial; as for the sum ...



Since
$$tanalpha = tan(pi-beta-gamma) = -tan(beta+gamma) = -frac{tanbeta+tangamma}{1-tanbetatangamma}$$



we have
$$tanalpha + tanbeta + tangamma = tanalpha-tanalpha(1-tanbetatangamma) = tanalphatanbetatangamma$$



Therefore,




$$frac{text{product of radii}}{text{sum of radii}} = frac{d^3tanalphatanbetatangamma}{dtanalphatanbetatangamma} = d^2$$







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    If the angles made by the lines at their common point are $2alpha$, $2beta$, $2 gamma$ (where their sum is $2pi$), then the three radii are pretty clearly
    $$d tan alpha qquad dtan beta qquad d tan gamma$$
    where $d$ is the distance from the point of intersection to any of the points of tangency. (In the given problem, $d=4$.) The product of the radii is trivial; as for the sum ...



    Since
    $$tanalpha = tan(pi-beta-gamma) = -tan(beta+gamma) = -frac{tanbeta+tangamma}{1-tanbetatangamma}$$



    we have
    $$tanalpha + tanbeta + tangamma = tanalpha-tanalpha(1-tanbetatangamma) = tanalphatanbetatangamma$$



    Therefore,




    $$frac{text{product of radii}}{text{sum of radii}} = frac{d^3tanalphatanbetatangamma}{dtanalphatanbetatangamma} = d^2$$







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      $begingroup$

      If the angles made by the lines at their common point are $2alpha$, $2beta$, $2 gamma$ (where their sum is $2pi$), then the three radii are pretty clearly
      $$d tan alpha qquad dtan beta qquad d tan gamma$$
      where $d$ is the distance from the point of intersection to any of the points of tangency. (In the given problem, $d=4$.) The product of the radii is trivial; as for the sum ...



      Since
      $$tanalpha = tan(pi-beta-gamma) = -tan(beta+gamma) = -frac{tanbeta+tangamma}{1-tanbetatangamma}$$



      we have
      $$tanalpha + tanbeta + tangamma = tanalpha-tanalpha(1-tanbetatangamma) = tanalphatanbetatangamma$$



      Therefore,




      $$frac{text{product of radii}}{text{sum of radii}} = frac{d^3tanalphatanbetatangamma}{dtanalphatanbetatangamma} = d^2$$







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        $begingroup$

        If the angles made by the lines at their common point are $2alpha$, $2beta$, $2 gamma$ (where their sum is $2pi$), then the three radii are pretty clearly
        $$d tan alpha qquad dtan beta qquad d tan gamma$$
        where $d$ is the distance from the point of intersection to any of the points of tangency. (In the given problem, $d=4$.) The product of the radii is trivial; as for the sum ...



        Since
        $$tanalpha = tan(pi-beta-gamma) = -tan(beta+gamma) = -frac{tanbeta+tangamma}{1-tanbetatangamma}$$



        we have
        $$tanalpha + tanbeta + tangamma = tanalpha-tanalpha(1-tanbetatangamma) = tanalphatanbetatangamma$$



        Therefore,




        $$frac{text{product of radii}}{text{sum of radii}} = frac{d^3tanalphatanbetatangamma}{dtanalphatanbetatangamma} = d^2$$







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        If the angles made by the lines at their common point are $2alpha$, $2beta$, $2 gamma$ (where their sum is $2pi$), then the three radii are pretty clearly
        $$d tan alpha qquad dtan beta qquad d tan gamma$$
        where $d$ is the distance from the point of intersection to any of the points of tangency. (In the given problem, $d=4$.) The product of the radii is trivial; as for the sum ...



        Since
        $$tanalpha = tan(pi-beta-gamma) = -tan(beta+gamma) = -frac{tanbeta+tangamma}{1-tanbetatangamma}$$



        we have
        $$tanalpha + tanbeta + tangamma = tanalpha-tanalpha(1-tanbetatangamma) = tanalphatanbetatangamma$$



        Therefore,




        $$frac{text{product of radii}}{text{sum of radii}} = frac{d^3tanalphatanbetatangamma}{dtanalphatanbetatangamma} = d^2$$








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