Lebesgue outer measure of a union of 2 sets
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Let $Esubsetmathbb{R}$.
Define $displaystyle m^*(E)=infleft{sum_{n=1}^inftyell(I_n):Esubsetbigcup
_{n=1}^infty I_nright}$
Prove that $m^*(Ecup F)le m^*(E)+m^*(F)$ where $E$ and $F$ are any subsets of $mathbb{R}$.
My attempt:
My approach is to find a sequence of intervals ${K_n}$ of length $le m^*(E)+m^*(F)$ that covers $Ecup F$. Then we could say $m^*(Ecup F)lesum_{i=1}^inftyell(K_n)le m^*(E)+m^*(F)$.
Let ${I_n}$ be a sequence of intervals that covers $E$ such that $m^*(E)=sum_{n=1}^inftyell(I_n)$.
$Esubsetbigcup_{n=1}^infty I_n$
Let ${J_n}$ be a sequence of intervals that covers $F$ such that $m^*(F)=sum_{n=1}^inftyell(J_n)$.
$Fsubsetbigcup_{n=1}^infty J_n$
Let $K_n$ be the smallest interval that contains both $I_n$ and $J_n$. We claim that ${K_n}$ covers $Ecup F$. The trouble is that $sum_{n=1}^inftyell(K_n)notle m^*(E)+m^*(F)$. Is it possible to construct a suitable sequence of intervals from ${I_n}$ and ${J_n}$ that covers $Ecup F$ and has the appropriate measure?
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Let $Esubsetmathbb{R}$.
Define $displaystyle m^*(E)=infleft{sum_{n=1}^inftyell(I_n):Esubsetbigcup
_{n=1}^infty I_nright}$
Prove that $m^*(Ecup F)le m^*(E)+m^*(F)$ where $E$ and $F$ are any subsets of $mathbb{R}$.
My attempt:
My approach is to find a sequence of intervals ${K_n}$ of length $le m^*(E)+m^*(F)$ that covers $Ecup F$. Then we could say $m^*(Ecup F)lesum_{i=1}^inftyell(K_n)le m^*(E)+m^*(F)$.
Let ${I_n}$ be a sequence of intervals that covers $E$ such that $m^*(E)=sum_{n=1}^inftyell(I_n)$.
$Esubsetbigcup_{n=1}^infty I_n$
Let ${J_n}$ be a sequence of intervals that covers $F$ such that $m^*(F)=sum_{n=1}^inftyell(J_n)$.
$Fsubsetbigcup_{n=1}^infty J_n$
Let $K_n$ be the smallest interval that contains both $I_n$ and $J_n$. We claim that ${K_n}$ covers $Ecup F$. The trouble is that $sum_{n=1}^inftyell(K_n)notle m^*(E)+m^*(F)$. Is it possible to construct a suitable sequence of intervals from ${I_n}$ and ${J_n}$ that covers $Ecup F$ and has the appropriate measure?
real-analysis
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I don't see why such ${I_n}$ should exist. The inf might not be achieved. This is true, for example, when $E = {x}$ is a single point.
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– mathworker21
Dec 2 '18 at 21:02
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@mathworker21 In that case, wouldn't the inf just be 0? Sorry, I don't know what you mean?
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– Thomas
Dec 2 '18 at 21:39
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@mathworker21 Oh, you mean there's no sequence of intervals with length 0 that covers $E={x}$!
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– Thomas
Dec 2 '18 at 22:48
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Let $Esubsetmathbb{R}$.
Define $displaystyle m^*(E)=infleft{sum_{n=1}^inftyell(I_n):Esubsetbigcup
_{n=1}^infty I_nright}$
Prove that $m^*(Ecup F)le m^*(E)+m^*(F)$ where $E$ and $F$ are any subsets of $mathbb{R}$.
My attempt:
My approach is to find a sequence of intervals ${K_n}$ of length $le m^*(E)+m^*(F)$ that covers $Ecup F$. Then we could say $m^*(Ecup F)lesum_{i=1}^inftyell(K_n)le m^*(E)+m^*(F)$.
Let ${I_n}$ be a sequence of intervals that covers $E$ such that $m^*(E)=sum_{n=1}^inftyell(I_n)$.
$Esubsetbigcup_{n=1}^infty I_n$
Let ${J_n}$ be a sequence of intervals that covers $F$ such that $m^*(F)=sum_{n=1}^inftyell(J_n)$.
$Fsubsetbigcup_{n=1}^infty J_n$
Let $K_n$ be the smallest interval that contains both $I_n$ and $J_n$. We claim that ${K_n}$ covers $Ecup F$. The trouble is that $sum_{n=1}^inftyell(K_n)notle m^*(E)+m^*(F)$. Is it possible to construct a suitable sequence of intervals from ${I_n}$ and ${J_n}$ that covers $Ecup F$ and has the appropriate measure?
real-analysis
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Let $Esubsetmathbb{R}$.
Define $displaystyle m^*(E)=infleft{sum_{n=1}^inftyell(I_n):Esubsetbigcup
_{n=1}^infty I_nright}$
Prove that $m^*(Ecup F)le m^*(E)+m^*(F)$ where $E$ and $F$ are any subsets of $mathbb{R}$.
My attempt:
My approach is to find a sequence of intervals ${K_n}$ of length $le m^*(E)+m^*(F)$ that covers $Ecup F$. Then we could say $m^*(Ecup F)lesum_{i=1}^inftyell(K_n)le m^*(E)+m^*(F)$.
Let ${I_n}$ be a sequence of intervals that covers $E$ such that $m^*(E)=sum_{n=1}^inftyell(I_n)$.
$Esubsetbigcup_{n=1}^infty I_n$
Let ${J_n}$ be a sequence of intervals that covers $F$ such that $m^*(F)=sum_{n=1}^inftyell(J_n)$.
$Fsubsetbigcup_{n=1}^infty J_n$
Let $K_n$ be the smallest interval that contains both $I_n$ and $J_n$. We claim that ${K_n}$ covers $Ecup F$. The trouble is that $sum_{n=1}^inftyell(K_n)notle m^*(E)+m^*(F)$. Is it possible to construct a suitable sequence of intervals from ${I_n}$ and ${J_n}$ that covers $Ecup F$ and has the appropriate measure?
real-analysis
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edited Dec 2 '18 at 21:04
Thomas
asked Dec 2 '18 at 20:59
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I don't see why such ${I_n}$ should exist. The inf might not be achieved. This is true, for example, when $E = {x}$ is a single point.
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– mathworker21
Dec 2 '18 at 21:02
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@mathworker21 In that case, wouldn't the inf just be 0? Sorry, I don't know what you mean?
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– Thomas
Dec 2 '18 at 21:39
1
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@mathworker21 Oh, you mean there's no sequence of intervals with length 0 that covers $E={x}$!
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– Thomas
Dec 2 '18 at 22:48
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I don't see why such ${I_n}$ should exist. The inf might not be achieved. This is true, for example, when $E = {x}$ is a single point.
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– mathworker21
Dec 2 '18 at 21:02
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@mathworker21 In that case, wouldn't the inf just be 0? Sorry, I don't know what you mean?
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– Thomas
Dec 2 '18 at 21:39
1
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@mathworker21 Oh, you mean there's no sequence of intervals with length 0 that covers $E={x}$!
$endgroup$
– Thomas
Dec 2 '18 at 22:48
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I don't see why such ${I_n}$ should exist. The inf might not be achieved. This is true, for example, when $E = {x}$ is a single point.
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– mathworker21
Dec 2 '18 at 21:02
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I don't see why such ${I_n}$ should exist. The inf might not be achieved. This is true, for example, when $E = {x}$ is a single point.
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– mathworker21
Dec 2 '18 at 21:02
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@mathworker21 In that case, wouldn't the inf just be 0? Sorry, I don't know what you mean?
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– Thomas
Dec 2 '18 at 21:39
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@mathworker21 In that case, wouldn't the inf just be 0? Sorry, I don't know what you mean?
$endgroup$
– Thomas
Dec 2 '18 at 21:39
1
1
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@mathworker21 Oh, you mean there's no sequence of intervals with length 0 that covers $E={x}$!
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– Thomas
Dec 2 '18 at 22:48
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@mathworker21 Oh, you mean there's no sequence of intervals with length 0 that covers $E={x}$!
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– Thomas
Dec 2 '18 at 22:48
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Suppose $I^E_k$ covers $E$ and $I^F_l$ covers $F$. Then
$I^E_k,I^F_l,...$ are a cover for $E cup F$ and
$m^* (E cup F) le sum_k l(I^E_k) + sum_l l(I^F_k)$.
Now take the $inf$ over the
covers $I^E_k$ and $I^F_l$.
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Suppose $I^E_k$ covers $E$ and $I^F_l$ covers $F$. Then
$I^E_k,I^F_l,...$ are a cover for $E cup F$ and
$m^* (E cup F) le sum_k l(I^E_k) + sum_l l(I^F_k)$.
Now take the $inf$ over the
covers $I^E_k$ and $I^F_l$.
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Suppose $I^E_k$ covers $E$ and $I^F_l$ covers $F$. Then
$I^E_k,I^F_l,...$ are a cover for $E cup F$ and
$m^* (E cup F) le sum_k l(I^E_k) + sum_l l(I^F_k)$.
Now take the $inf$ over the
covers $I^E_k$ and $I^F_l$.
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add a comment |
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Suppose $I^E_k$ covers $E$ and $I^F_l$ covers $F$. Then
$I^E_k,I^F_l,...$ are a cover for $E cup F$ and
$m^* (E cup F) le sum_k l(I^E_k) + sum_l l(I^F_k)$.
Now take the $inf$ over the
covers $I^E_k$ and $I^F_l$.
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Suppose $I^E_k$ covers $E$ and $I^F_l$ covers $F$. Then
$I^E_k,I^F_l,...$ are a cover for $E cup F$ and
$m^* (E cup F) le sum_k l(I^E_k) + sum_l l(I^F_k)$.
Now take the $inf$ over the
covers $I^E_k$ and $I^F_l$.
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I don't see why such ${I_n}$ should exist. The inf might not be achieved. This is true, for example, when $E = {x}$ is a single point.
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– mathworker21
Dec 2 '18 at 21:02
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@mathworker21 In that case, wouldn't the inf just be 0? Sorry, I don't know what you mean?
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– Thomas
Dec 2 '18 at 21:39
1
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@mathworker21 Oh, you mean there's no sequence of intervals with length 0 that covers $E={x}$!
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– Thomas
Dec 2 '18 at 22:48