Does Warlock's Eyes of the Rune Keeper allow them to read Druidic?
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Just a bit confused as the PHB states that Druidic is used to write in code. Does that mean that Eyes of the Rune Keeper will allow me to read Druidic but not understand what it means or could I read it and understand it?
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Just a bit confused as the PHB states that Druidic is used to write in code. Does that mean that Eyes of the Rune Keeper will allow me to read Druidic but not understand what it means or could I read it and understand it?
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Just a bit confused as the PHB states that Druidic is used to write in code. Does that mean that Eyes of the Rune Keeper will allow me to read Druidic but not understand what it means or could I read it and understand it?
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edited Feb 13 at 15:52
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Just a bit confused as the PHB states that Druidic is used to write in code. Does that mean that Eyes of the Rune Keeper will allow me to read Druidic but not understand what it means or could I read it and understand it?
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Eyes of the Rune Keeper does allow you to read Druidic (if you can spot it)
Druidic is a language, not a code or cipher
You speak Druidic, the secret language of the druids. You can speak the language and use it to leave hidden messages. You and others who know this language automatically spot such a message. Others spot the message's presence with a successful DC15 Wisdom (Perception) check, but can't decipher it without magic.
The only reason the messages are referred to as hidden and secret is that the language is because people who don't know Druidic find it hard to spot and can't decipher it without magic.
You need to pass a check to spot the writing first
[Creatures that don't know Druidic] spot the message's presence with a successful DC15 Wisdom (Perception) check, but can't decipher it without magic.
Since you don't know Druidic, you must pass a check to even notice the writing. Note how spotting and deciphering are two different things in the description above. Once you spot it, the Eyes of the Rune Keeper kick in.
Eyes of the Rune Keeper is magical and allows you to read the writing
The description for all eldritch invocations says:
In your study of occult lore, you have unearthed eldritch invocations, fragments of forbidden knowledge that imbue you with an abiding magical ability.
Eyes of the Rune Keeper, a magical ability by virtue of being an eldritch invocation, says:
You can read all writing.
Thus, if you are able to spot some Druidic writing, you would be able to read it with Eyes of the Rune Keeper.
answered Feb 13 at 15:57
RubiksmooseRubiksmoose
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I always took that particular Perception check to be more recognizing that the symbols meant something rather than finding them. I would think (RAI at least) that if you're able to read druidic magically that you can read the writing without that check. (Of course if the writing is hidden then there would need to be a Perception check to see if you spot it at all.) ---- I guess this sort of depends on how Druidic works, if it's meant to always be hidden in plain sight. As in the characters themselves are like that. Then, if that's the case, does being able to read them negate that.
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– Captain Man
Feb 13 at 18:55
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@CaptainMan it literally says the check is to "spot the message's presence" how do you interpret that any other way than "to notice/see/find" it?
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– Rubiksmoose
Feb 13 at 18:59
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To me it just sounds odd. Even ancient languages I don't understand aren't somehow hidden from my sight. I don't not see them, but it's possible I might not realize it's writing (thinking instead it's just a design). Egyptian hieroglyphics come to mind as a good example. Because it's so counter intuitive sounding I'm thinking maybe it was a typo or misconveyed (hence my mention of RAI). That's also why I mentioned it depends on what Druidic looks like, maybe it's meant to be written in some odd way that is just hard to see (like it has super thin letters), or maybe just "because magic"
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– Captain Man
Feb 13 at 19:06
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Yes. Druidic is a language. It's not a cipher
Eyes of the Rune Keeper allow you to read any written language. As long as the meaning of the language is plain, and not a cipher, the character should be able to comprehend it.
The druidic language is specifically called out as being decipherable by magic such as an eldritch invocation.
Others spot the message’s presence with a successful DC 15 Wisdom (Perception) check but can’t decipher it without magic.
Examples where Eyes of the Rune Keeper wouldn't allow the character to comprehend the message.
Can Warlock's Eyes of the Rune Keeper decipher written code?
What would a Warlock understand from written spells outside of their class, via Eyes of the Rune Keeper?
answered Feb 13 at 15:46
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For further support, you might want to add that the description of Druidic specifically says it can be read using magic (see here), and eldritch invocations are considered magic (see here).
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– Ryan Thompson
Feb 13 at 15:49
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Thank you for clearing that up
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– IrateDwarf
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Eyes of the Rune Keeper does allow you to read Druidic (if you can spot it)
Druidic is a language, not a code or cipher
You speak Druidic, the secret language of the druids. You can speak the language and use it to leave hidden messages. You and others who know this language automatically spot such a message. Others spot the message's presence with a successful DC15 Wisdom (Perception) check, but can't decipher it without magic.
The only reason the messages are referred to as hidden and secret is that the language is because people who don't know Druidic find it hard to spot and can't decipher it without magic.
You need to pass a check to spot the writing first
[Creatures that don't know Druidic] spot the message's presence with a successful DC15 Wisdom (Perception) check, but can't decipher it without magic.
Since you don't know Druidic, you must pass a check to even notice the writing. Note how spotting and deciphering are two different things in the description above. Once you spot it, the Eyes of the Rune Keeper kick in.
Eyes of the Rune Keeper is magical and allows you to read the writing
The description for all eldritch invocations says:
In your study of occult lore, you have unearthed eldritch invocations, fragments of forbidden knowledge that imbue you with an abiding magical ability.
Eyes of the Rune Keeper, a magical ability by virtue of being an eldritch invocation, says:
You can read all writing.
Thus, if you are able to spot some Druidic writing, you would be able to read it with Eyes of the Rune Keeper.
answered Feb 13 at 15:57
RubiksmooseRubiksmoose
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I always took that particular Perception check to be more recognizing that the symbols meant something rather than finding them. I would think (RAI at least) that if you're able to read druidic magically that you can read the writing without that check. (Of course if the writing is hidden then there would need to be a Perception check to see if you spot it at all.) ---- I guess this sort of depends on how Druidic works, if it's meant to always be hidden in plain sight. As in the characters themselves are like that. Then, if that's the case, does being able to read them negate that.
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– Captain Man
Feb 13 at 18:55
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@CaptainMan it literally says the check is to "spot the message's presence" how do you interpret that any other way than "to notice/see/find" it?
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– Rubiksmoose
Feb 13 at 18:59
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To me it just sounds odd. Even ancient languages I don't understand aren't somehow hidden from my sight. I don't not see them, but it's possible I might not realize it's writing (thinking instead it's just a design). Egyptian hieroglyphics come to mind as a good example. Because it's so counter intuitive sounding I'm thinking maybe it was a typo or misconveyed (hence my mention of RAI). That's also why I mentioned it depends on what Druidic looks like, maybe it's meant to be written in some odd way that is just hard to see (like it has super thin letters), or maybe just "because magic"
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– Captain Man
Feb 13 at 19:06
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Eyes of the Rune Keeper does allow you to read Druidic (if you can spot it)
Druidic is a language, not a code or cipher
You speak Druidic, the secret language of the druids. You can speak the language and use it to leave hidden messages. You and others who know this language automatically spot such a message. Others spot the message's presence with a successful DC15 Wisdom (Perception) check, but can't decipher it without magic.
The only reason the messages are referred to as hidden and secret is that the language is because people who don't know Druidic find it hard to spot and can't decipher it without magic.
You need to pass a check to spot the writing first
[Creatures that don't know Druidic] spot the message's presence with a successful DC15 Wisdom (Perception) check, but can't decipher it without magic.
Since you don't know Druidic, you must pass a check to even notice the writing. Note how spotting and deciphering are two different things in the description above. Once you spot it, the Eyes of the Rune Keeper kick in.
Eyes of the Rune Keeper is magical and allows you to read the writing
The description for all eldritch invocations says:
In your study of occult lore, you have unearthed eldritch invocations, fragments of forbidden knowledge that imbue you with an abiding magical ability.
Eyes of the Rune Keeper, a magical ability by virtue of being an eldritch invocation, says:
You can read all writing.
Thus, if you are able to spot some Druidic writing, you would be able to read it with Eyes of the Rune Keeper.
answered Feb 13 at 15:57
RubiksmooseRubiksmoose
55.7k9273418
$endgroup$
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I always took that particular Perception check to be more recognizing that the symbols meant something rather than finding them. I would think (RAI at least) that if you're able to read druidic magically that you can read the writing without that check. (Of course if the writing is hidden then there would need to be a Perception check to see if you spot it at all.) ---- I guess this sort of depends on how Druidic works, if it's meant to always be hidden in plain sight. As in the characters themselves are like that. Then, if that's the case, does being able to read them negate that.
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– Captain Man
Feb 13 at 18:55
1
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@CaptainMan it literally says the check is to "spot the message's presence" how do you interpret that any other way than "to notice/see/find" it?
$endgroup$
– Rubiksmoose
Feb 13 at 18:59
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To me it just sounds odd. Even ancient languages I don't understand aren't somehow hidden from my sight. I don't not see them, but it's possible I might not realize it's writing (thinking instead it's just a design). Egyptian hieroglyphics come to mind as a good example. Because it's so counter intuitive sounding I'm thinking maybe it was a typo or misconveyed (hence my mention of RAI). That's also why I mentioned it depends on what Druidic looks like, maybe it's meant to be written in some odd way that is just hard to see (like it has super thin letters), or maybe just "because magic"
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– Captain Man
Feb 13 at 19:06
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Eyes of the Rune Keeper does allow you to read Druidic (if you can spot it)
Druidic is a language, not a code or cipher
You speak Druidic, the secret language of the druids. You can speak the language and use it to leave hidden messages. You and others who know this language automatically spot such a message. Others spot the message's presence with a successful DC15 Wisdom (Perception) check, but can't decipher it without magic.
The only reason the messages are referred to as hidden and secret is that the language is because people who don't know Druidic find it hard to spot and can't decipher it without magic.
You need to pass a check to spot the writing first
[Creatures that don't know Druidic] spot the message's presence with a successful DC15 Wisdom (Perception) check, but can't decipher it without magic.
Since you don't know Druidic, you must pass a check to even notice the writing. Note how spotting and deciphering are two different things in the description above. Once you spot it, the Eyes of the Rune Keeper kick in.
Eyes of the Rune Keeper is magical and allows you to read the writing
The description for all eldritch invocations says:
In your study of occult lore, you have unearthed eldritch invocations, fragments of forbidden knowledge that imbue you with an abiding magical ability.
Eyes of the Rune Keeper, a magical ability by virtue of being an eldritch invocation, says:
You can read all writing.
Thus, if you are able to spot some Druidic writing, you would be able to read it with Eyes of the Rune Keeper.
answered Feb 13 at 15:57
RubiksmooseRubiksmoose
55.7k9273418
$endgroup$
Eyes of the Rune Keeper does allow you to read Druidic (if you can spot it)
Druidic is a language, not a code or cipher
You speak Druidic, the secret language of the druids. You can speak the language and use it to leave hidden messages. You and others who know this language automatically spot such a message. Others spot the message's presence with a successful DC15 Wisdom (Perception) check, but can't decipher it without magic.
The only reason the messages are referred to as hidden and secret is that the language is because people who don't know Druidic find it hard to spot and can't decipher it without magic.
You need to pass a check to spot the writing first
[Creatures that don't know Druidic] spot the message's presence with a successful DC15 Wisdom (Perception) check, but can't decipher it without magic.
Since you don't know Druidic, you must pass a check to even notice the writing. Note how spotting and deciphering are two different things in the description above. Once you spot it, the Eyes of the Rune Keeper kick in.
Eyes of the Rune Keeper is magical and allows you to read the writing
The description for all eldritch invocations says:
In your study of occult lore, you have unearthed eldritch invocations, fragments of forbidden knowledge that imbue you with an abiding magical ability.
Eyes of the Rune Keeper, a magical ability by virtue of being an eldritch invocation, says:
You can read all writing.
Thus, if you are able to spot some Druidic writing, you would be able to read it with Eyes of the Rune Keeper.
answered Feb 13 at 15:57
RubiksmooseRubiksmoose
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edited Feb 13 at 16:28
answered Feb 13 at 15:57
RubiksmooseRubiksmoose
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answered Feb 13 at 15:57
RubiksmooseRubiksmoose
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answered Feb 13 at 15:57
RubiksmooseRubiksmoose
55.7k9273418
55.7k9273418
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I always took that particular Perception check to be more recognizing that the symbols meant something rather than finding them. I would think (RAI at least) that if you're able to read druidic magically that you can read the writing without that check. (Of course if the writing is hidden then there would need to be a Perception check to see if you spot it at all.) ---- I guess this sort of depends on how Druidic works, if it's meant to always be hidden in plain sight. As in the characters themselves are like that. Then, if that's the case, does being able to read them negate that.
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– Captain Man
Feb 13 at 18:55
1
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@CaptainMan it literally says the check is to "spot the message's presence" how do you interpret that any other way than "to notice/see/find" it?
$endgroup$
– Rubiksmoose
Feb 13 at 18:59
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To me it just sounds odd. Even ancient languages I don't understand aren't somehow hidden from my sight. I don't not see them, but it's possible I might not realize it's writing (thinking instead it's just a design). Egyptian hieroglyphics come to mind as a good example. Because it's so counter intuitive sounding I'm thinking maybe it was a typo or misconveyed (hence my mention of RAI). That's also why I mentioned it depends on what Druidic looks like, maybe it's meant to be written in some odd way that is just hard to see (like it has super thin letters), or maybe just "because magic"
$endgroup$
– Captain Man
Feb 13 at 19:06
add a comment |
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I always took that particular Perception check to be more recognizing that the symbols meant something rather than finding them. I would think (RAI at least) that if you're able to read druidic magically that you can read the writing without that check. (Of course if the writing is hidden then there would need to be a Perception check to see if you spot it at all.) ---- I guess this sort of depends on how Druidic works, if it's meant to always be hidden in plain sight. As in the characters themselves are like that. Then, if that's the case, does being able to read them negate that.
$endgroup$
– Captain Man
Feb 13 at 18:55
1
$begingroup$
@CaptainMan it literally says the check is to "spot the message's presence" how do you interpret that any other way than "to notice/see/find" it?
$endgroup$
– Rubiksmoose
Feb 13 at 18:59
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To me it just sounds odd. Even ancient languages I don't understand aren't somehow hidden from my sight. I don't not see them, but it's possible I might not realize it's writing (thinking instead it's just a design). Egyptian hieroglyphics come to mind as a good example. Because it's so counter intuitive sounding I'm thinking maybe it was a typo or misconveyed (hence my mention of RAI). That's also why I mentioned it depends on what Druidic looks like, maybe it's meant to be written in some odd way that is just hard to see (like it has super thin letters), or maybe just "because magic"
$endgroup$
– Captain Man
Feb 13 at 19:06
$begingroup$
I always took that particular Perception check to be more recognizing that the symbols meant something rather than finding them. I would think (RAI at least) that if you're able to read druidic magically that you can read the writing without that check. (Of course if the writing is hidden then there would need to be a Perception check to see if you spot it at all.) ---- I guess this sort of depends on how Druidic works, if it's meant to always be hidden in plain sight. As in the characters themselves are like that. Then, if that's the case, does being able to read them negate that.
$endgroup$
– Captain Man
Feb 13 at 18:55
$begingroup$
I always took that particular Perception check to be more recognizing that the symbols meant something rather than finding them. I would think (RAI at least) that if you're able to read druidic magically that you can read the writing without that check. (Of course if the writing is hidden then there would need to be a Perception check to see if you spot it at all.) ---- I guess this sort of depends on how Druidic works, if it's meant to always be hidden in plain sight. As in the characters themselves are like that. Then, if that's the case, does being able to read them negate that.
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– Captain Man
Feb 13 at 18:55
1
1
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@CaptainMan it literally says the check is to "spot the message's presence" how do you interpret that any other way than "to notice/see/find" it?
$endgroup$
– Rubiksmoose
Feb 13 at 18:59
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@CaptainMan it literally says the check is to "spot the message's presence" how do you interpret that any other way than "to notice/see/find" it?
$endgroup$
– Rubiksmoose
Feb 13 at 18:59
$begingroup$
To me it just sounds odd. Even ancient languages I don't understand aren't somehow hidden from my sight. I don't not see them, but it's possible I might not realize it's writing (thinking instead it's just a design). Egyptian hieroglyphics come to mind as a good example. Because it's so counter intuitive sounding I'm thinking maybe it was a typo or misconveyed (hence my mention of RAI). That's also why I mentioned it depends on what Druidic looks like, maybe it's meant to be written in some odd way that is just hard to see (like it has super thin letters), or maybe just "because magic"
$endgroup$
– Captain Man
Feb 13 at 19:06
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To me it just sounds odd. Even ancient languages I don't understand aren't somehow hidden from my sight. I don't not see them, but it's possible I might not realize it's writing (thinking instead it's just a design). Egyptian hieroglyphics come to mind as a good example. Because it's so counter intuitive sounding I'm thinking maybe it was a typo or misconveyed (hence my mention of RAI). That's also why I mentioned it depends on what Druidic looks like, maybe it's meant to be written in some odd way that is just hard to see (like it has super thin letters), or maybe just "because magic"
$endgroup$
– Captain Man
Feb 13 at 19:06
add a comment |
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Yes. Druidic is a language. It's not a cipher
Eyes of the Rune Keeper allow you to read any written language. As long as the meaning of the language is plain, and not a cipher, the character should be able to comprehend it.
The druidic language is specifically called out as being decipherable by magic such as an eldritch invocation.
Others spot the message’s presence with a successful DC 15 Wisdom (Perception) check but can’t decipher it without magic.
Examples where Eyes of the Rune Keeper wouldn't allow the character to comprehend the message.
Can Warlock's Eyes of the Rune Keeper decipher written code?
What would a Warlock understand from written spells outside of their class, via Eyes of the Rune Keeper?
answered Feb 13 at 15:46
GrosscolGrosscol
10.3k12570
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1
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For further support, you might want to add that the description of Druidic specifically says it can be read using magic (see here), and eldritch invocations are considered magic (see here).
$endgroup$
– Ryan Thompson
Feb 13 at 15:49
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Thank you for clearing that up
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– IrateDwarf
Feb 13 at 16:43
add a comment |
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Yes. Druidic is a language. It's not a cipher
Eyes of the Rune Keeper allow you to read any written language. As long as the meaning of the language is plain, and not a cipher, the character should be able to comprehend it.
The druidic language is specifically called out as being decipherable by magic such as an eldritch invocation.
Others spot the message’s presence with a successful DC 15 Wisdom (Perception) check but can’t decipher it without magic.
Examples where Eyes of the Rune Keeper wouldn't allow the character to comprehend the message.
Can Warlock's Eyes of the Rune Keeper decipher written code?
What would a Warlock understand from written spells outside of their class, via Eyes of the Rune Keeper?
answered Feb 13 at 15:46
GrosscolGrosscol
10.3k12570
$endgroup$
1
$begingroup$
For further support, you might want to add that the description of Druidic specifically says it can be read using magic (see here), and eldritch invocations are considered magic (see here).
$endgroup$
– Ryan Thompson
Feb 13 at 15:49
$begingroup$
Thank you for clearing that up
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– IrateDwarf
Feb 13 at 16:43
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Yes. Druidic is a language. It's not a cipher
Eyes of the Rune Keeper allow you to read any written language. As long as the meaning of the language is plain, and not a cipher, the character should be able to comprehend it.
The druidic language is specifically called out as being decipherable by magic such as an eldritch invocation.
Others spot the message’s presence with a successful DC 15 Wisdom (Perception) check but can’t decipher it without magic.
Examples where Eyes of the Rune Keeper wouldn't allow the character to comprehend the message.
Can Warlock's Eyes of the Rune Keeper decipher written code?
What would a Warlock understand from written spells outside of their class, via Eyes of the Rune Keeper?
answered Feb 13 at 15:46
GrosscolGrosscol
10.3k12570
$endgroup$
Yes. Druidic is a language. It's not a cipher
Eyes of the Rune Keeper allow you to read any written language. As long as the meaning of the language is plain, and not a cipher, the character should be able to comprehend it.
The druidic language is specifically called out as being decipherable by magic such as an eldritch invocation.
Others spot the message’s presence with a successful DC 15 Wisdom (Perception) check but can’t decipher it without magic.
Examples where Eyes of the Rune Keeper wouldn't allow the character to comprehend the message.
Can Warlock's Eyes of the Rune Keeper decipher written code?
What would a Warlock understand from written spells outside of their class, via Eyes of the Rune Keeper?
answered Feb 13 at 15:46
GrosscolGrosscol
10.3k12570
edited Feb 13 at 15:59
answered Feb 13 at 15:46
GrosscolGrosscol
10.3k12570
answered Feb 13 at 15:46
GrosscolGrosscol
10.3k12570
answered Feb 13 at 15:46
GrosscolGrosscol
10.3k12570
10.3k12570
1
$begingroup$
For further support, you might want to add that the description of Druidic specifically says it can be read using magic (see here), and eldritch invocations are considered magic (see here).
$endgroup$
– Ryan Thompson
Feb 13 at 15:49
$begingroup$
Thank you for clearing that up
$endgroup$
– IrateDwarf
Feb 13 at 16:43
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For further support, you might want to add that the description of Druidic specifically says it can be read using magic (see here), and eldritch invocations are considered magic (see here).
$endgroup$
– Ryan Thompson
Feb 13 at 15:49
$begingroup$
Thank you for clearing that up
$endgroup$
– IrateDwarf
Feb 13 at 16:43
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1
$begingroup$
For further support, you might want to add that the description of Druidic specifically says it can be read using magic (see here), and eldritch invocations are considered magic (see here).
$endgroup$
– Ryan Thompson
Feb 13 at 15:49
$begingroup$
For further support, you might want to add that the description of Druidic specifically says it can be read using magic (see here), and eldritch invocations are considered magic (see here).
$endgroup$
– Ryan Thompson
Feb 13 at 15:49
$begingroup$
Thank you for clearing that up
$endgroup$
– IrateDwarf
Feb 13 at 16:43
$begingroup$
Thank you for clearing that up
$endgroup$
– IrateDwarf
Feb 13 at 16:43
add a comment |
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