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Let $P$ and $C neq0$ a $q times q$ matrices. I want to prove that there exists a positive constants $alpha$ such under some assumptions under $P$ we have the inequality
$${left| {Pleft( {I - C} right)x} right|_{{{mathbb{R}}^q}}} leqslant alpha {left| {PCx} right|_{{{mathbb{R}}^q}}}$$ for all $x$ in $mathbb{R}$
whith $I$ is the identity matrix.



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    Why do you expect such an inequality to hold? Could you give us a bit more context?
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    I need this inequality to prove the controllability of some system of PDE. I have to get rid of the R.H.S of the inequality.
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    I would suggest that you post a question about the actual system of PDE. As your question stands, it is difficult to know what kind of conditions on $P$ we should be looking for.
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    Your inequality will be true for some $alpha > 0$ if and only if $ker(P(I - C)) subseteq ker(PC)$. I don't believe that $ker(C) subseteq ker(P)$ will be a sufficient condition to guarantee this.
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    For instance: your condition cannot hold for $$ C = pmatrix{1&0\0&1}, quad P = pmatrix{1&0\0&0} $$ even though we have $ker(C) subseteq ker(P)$
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    – Omnomnomnom
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$begingroup$


Let $P$ and $C neq0$ a $q times q$ matrices. I want to prove that there exists a positive constants $alpha$ such under some assumptions under $P$ we have the inequality
$${left| {Pleft( {I - C} right)x} right|_{{{mathbb{R}}^q}}} leqslant alpha {left| {PCx} right|_{{{mathbb{R}}^q}}}$$ for all $x$ in $mathbb{R}$
whith $I$ is the identity matrix.



Thank you.






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  • $begingroup$
    Why do you expect such an inequality to hold? Could you give us a bit more context?
    $endgroup$
    – Omnomnomnom
    Nov 25 '18 at 17:36












  • $begingroup$
    I need this inequality to prove the controllability of some system of PDE. I have to get rid of the R.H.S of the inequality.
    $endgroup$
    – Gustave
    Nov 25 '18 at 17:38










  • $begingroup$
    I would suggest that you post a question about the actual system of PDE. As your question stands, it is difficult to know what kind of conditions on $P$ we should be looking for.
    $endgroup$
    – Omnomnomnom
    Nov 25 '18 at 17:41








  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Your inequality will be true for some $alpha > 0$ if and only if $ker(P(I - C)) subseteq ker(PC)$. I don't believe that $ker(C) subseteq ker(P)$ will be a sufficient condition to guarantee this.
    $endgroup$
    – Omnomnomnom
    Nov 25 '18 at 19:34








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    $begingroup$
    For instance: your condition cannot hold for $$ C = pmatrix{1&0\0&1}, quad P = pmatrix{1&0\0&0} $$ even though we have $ker(C) subseteq ker(P)$
    $endgroup$
    – Omnomnomnom
    Nov 25 '18 at 19:45














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Let $P$ and $C neq0$ a $q times q$ matrices. I want to prove that there exists a positive constants $alpha$ such under some assumptions under $P$ we have the inequality
$${left| {Pleft( {I - C} right)x} right|_{{{mathbb{R}}^q}}} leqslant alpha {left| {PCx} right|_{{{mathbb{R}}^q}}}$$ for all $x$ in $mathbb{R}$
whith $I$ is the identity matrix.



Thank you.






matrices inequality operator-theory normed-spaces functional-inequalities







share|cite|improve this question











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Let $P$ and $C neq0$ a $q times q$ matrices. I want to prove that there exists a positive constants $alpha$ such under some assumptions under $P$ we have the inequality
$${left| {Pleft( {I - C} right)x} right|_{{{mathbb{R}}^q}}} leqslant alpha {left| {PCx} right|_{{{mathbb{R}}^q}}}$$ for all $x$ in $mathbb{R}$
whith $I$ is the identity matrix.



Thank you.






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  • $begingroup$
    Why do you expect such an inequality to hold? Could you give us a bit more context?
    $endgroup$
    – Omnomnomnom
    Nov 25 '18 at 17:36












  • $begingroup$
    I need this inequality to prove the controllability of some system of PDE. I have to get rid of the R.H.S of the inequality.
    $endgroup$
    – Gustave
    Nov 25 '18 at 17:38










  • $begingroup$
    I would suggest that you post a question about the actual system of PDE. As your question stands, it is difficult to know what kind of conditions on $P$ we should be looking for.
    $endgroup$
    – Omnomnomnom
    Nov 25 '18 at 17:41








  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Your inequality will be true for some $alpha > 0$ if and only if $ker(P(I - C)) subseteq ker(PC)$. I don't believe that $ker(C) subseteq ker(P)$ will be a sufficient condition to guarantee this.
    $endgroup$
    – Omnomnomnom
    Nov 25 '18 at 19:34








  • 1




    $begingroup$
    For instance: your condition cannot hold for $$ C = pmatrix{1&0\0&1}, quad P = pmatrix{1&0\0&0} $$ even though we have $ker(C) subseteq ker(P)$
    $endgroup$
    – Omnomnomnom
    Nov 25 '18 at 19:45


















  • $begingroup$
    Why do you expect such an inequality to hold? Could you give us a bit more context?
    $endgroup$
    – Omnomnomnom
    Nov 25 '18 at 17:36












  • $begingroup$
    I need this inequality to prove the controllability of some system of PDE. I have to get rid of the R.H.S of the inequality.
    $endgroup$
    – Gustave
    Nov 25 '18 at 17:38










  • $begingroup$
    I would suggest that you post a question about the actual system of PDE. As your question stands, it is difficult to know what kind of conditions on $P$ we should be looking for.
    $endgroup$
    – Omnomnomnom
    Nov 25 '18 at 17:41








  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Your inequality will be true for some $alpha > 0$ if and only if $ker(P(I - C)) subseteq ker(PC)$. I don't believe that $ker(C) subseteq ker(P)$ will be a sufficient condition to guarantee this.
    $endgroup$
    – Omnomnomnom
    Nov 25 '18 at 19:34








  • 1




    $begingroup$
    For instance: your condition cannot hold for $$ C = pmatrix{1&0\0&1}, quad P = pmatrix{1&0\0&0} $$ even though we have $ker(C) subseteq ker(P)$
    $endgroup$
    – Omnomnomnom
    Nov 25 '18 at 19:45
















$begingroup$
Why do you expect such an inequality to hold? Could you give us a bit more context?
$endgroup$
– Omnomnomnom
Nov 25 '18 at 17:36






$begingroup$
Why do you expect such an inequality to hold? Could you give us a bit more context?
$endgroup$
– Omnomnomnom
Nov 25 '18 at 17:36














$begingroup$
I need this inequality to prove the controllability of some system of PDE. I have to get rid of the R.H.S of the inequality.
$endgroup$
– Gustave
Nov 25 '18 at 17:38




$begingroup$
I need this inequality to prove the controllability of some system of PDE. I have to get rid of the R.H.S of the inequality.
$endgroup$
– Gustave
Nov 25 '18 at 17:38












$begingroup$
I would suggest that you post a question about the actual system of PDE. As your question stands, it is difficult to know what kind of conditions on $P$ we should be looking for.
$endgroup$
– Omnomnomnom
Nov 25 '18 at 17:41






$begingroup$
I would suggest that you post a question about the actual system of PDE. As your question stands, it is difficult to know what kind of conditions on $P$ we should be looking for.
$endgroup$
– Omnomnomnom
Nov 25 '18 at 17:41






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$begingroup$
Your inequality will be true for some $alpha > 0$ if and only if $ker(P(I - C)) subseteq ker(PC)$. I don't believe that $ker(C) subseteq ker(P)$ will be a sufficient condition to guarantee this.
$endgroup$
– Omnomnomnom
Nov 25 '18 at 19:34






$begingroup$
Your inequality will be true for some $alpha > 0$ if and only if $ker(P(I - C)) subseteq ker(PC)$. I don't believe that $ker(C) subseteq ker(P)$ will be a sufficient condition to guarantee this.
$endgroup$
– Omnomnomnom
Nov 25 '18 at 19:34






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For instance: your condition cannot hold for $$ C = pmatrix{1&0\0&1}, quad P = pmatrix{1&0\0&0} $$ even though we have $ker(C) subseteq ker(P)$
$endgroup$
– Omnomnomnom
Nov 25 '18 at 19:45




$begingroup$
For instance: your condition cannot hold for $$ C = pmatrix{1&0\0&1}, quad P = pmatrix{1&0\0&0} $$ even though we have $ker(C) subseteq ker(P)$
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If $P=I$ and $C=0$, then there is no such positive constant, so that the inequality holds.






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    Thank tou for the remark, yes, the inequality does'nt hold for any $P$, I want to find some conditions on $P$ so that the inequality is satisfied.
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    Nov 25 '18 at 17:37












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    I have changed the statement. Thank you for the remark.
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If $P=I$ and $C=0$, then there is no such positive constant, so that the inequality holds.






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  • $begingroup$
    Thank tou for the remark, yes, the inequality does'nt hold for any $P$, I want to find some conditions on $P$ so that the inequality is satisfied.
    $endgroup$
    – Gustave
    Nov 25 '18 at 17:37












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If $P=I$ and $C=0$, then there is no such positive constant, so that the inequality holds.






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    Thank tou for the remark, yes, the inequality does'nt hold for any $P$, I want to find some conditions on $P$ so that the inequality is satisfied.
    $endgroup$
    – Gustave
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    I have changed the statement. Thank you for the remark.
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    Thank tou for the remark, yes, the inequality does'nt hold for any $P$, I want to find some conditions on $P$ so that the inequality is satisfied.
    $endgroup$
    – Gustave
    Nov 25 '18 at 17:37












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    I have changed the statement. Thank you for the remark.
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Thank tou for the remark, yes, the inequality does'nt hold for any $P$, I want to find some conditions on $P$ so that the inequality is satisfied.
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