Characterization of sets in $mathcal F^X_t =sigma({X_s: sleq t})$ where $(X_t)_t$ is a stochastic process












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I'm selfstudying stochastic processes. There is a question on the characterization of sets in $mathcal F_t^X:=sigma({X_s: sleq t })$.



Let $T subset mathbb R^+$ be the time index set. We consider $Omega subset E^T$ where $E$ is some (nice) set, e.g. $mathbb R$ with the property that for eacht $tin T$ and $omegain Omega$ there is $bar omega in Omega$ such that $bar omega_s = omega_{swedge t}$ for all $sin T$ (I personally don't know why we need this). Let $mathcal F=mathcal E^Tcap Omega$ where $mathcal E^T$ is the $sigma$-algebra on $E^T$. Let $X=(X_t)_{tin T}$ be the canonical process on $(Omega,mathcal F)$.



The problem I have is to prove the following assertion:




Assertion. $Ain mathcal F^X_t$ implies the following





  1. $Ainmathcal F_infty^X$.


  2. $omega in A$ and $X_s(omega)=X_s(omega')$ for all $sin T$ with $sleq t$ imply $omega'in A$.




Attempt.



Number (1) follows from $mathcal F_t^Xsubsetmathcal F_infty^X$. But I'm having troubles with the second implication. I started like this, let $mathcal C$ be a $pi$-system that generates $mathcal E$. Then in one of the notes they say $mathcal F_t^X$ is generated by the following $pi$-system $mathcal C_t^X$, defined as
begin{align}
mathcal C_t^X = {X_{t_1}^{-1}(C_1)cap ...cap X_{t_n}^{-1}(C_n) : t_1<t_2 <...<t_nleq t, C_1,...,C_ninmathcal C, n=1,2,....}
end{align}


Of course, if $Ain mathcal C_t^X$, then $omega in A$ if and only if
begin{align*}
X_{t_1}(omega) in C_1,....,X_{t_n}(omega)in C_n
end{align*}

for some set $C_1, C_2,..$ etc. But then it is immediately clear that $omega'in A$. I can only do this in the case $A$ is in the $pi$-system. How can I conclude that the assertion also holds if $A$ is not in the $pi$-system?










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    I'm selfstudying stochastic processes. There is a question on the characterization of sets in $mathcal F_t^X:=sigma({X_s: sleq t })$.



    Let $T subset mathbb R^+$ be the time index set. We consider $Omega subset E^T$ where $E$ is some (nice) set, e.g. $mathbb R$ with the property that for eacht $tin T$ and $omegain Omega$ there is $bar omega in Omega$ such that $bar omega_s = omega_{swedge t}$ for all $sin T$ (I personally don't know why we need this). Let $mathcal F=mathcal E^Tcap Omega$ where $mathcal E^T$ is the $sigma$-algebra on $E^T$. Let $X=(X_t)_{tin T}$ be the canonical process on $(Omega,mathcal F)$.



    The problem I have is to prove the following assertion:




    Assertion. $Ain mathcal F^X_t$ implies the following





    1. $Ainmathcal F_infty^X$.


    2. $omega in A$ and $X_s(omega)=X_s(omega')$ for all $sin T$ with $sleq t$ imply $omega'in A$.




    Attempt.



    Number (1) follows from $mathcal F_t^Xsubsetmathcal F_infty^X$. But I'm having troubles with the second implication. I started like this, let $mathcal C$ be a $pi$-system that generates $mathcal E$. Then in one of the notes they say $mathcal F_t^X$ is generated by the following $pi$-system $mathcal C_t^X$, defined as
    begin{align}
    mathcal C_t^X = {X_{t_1}^{-1}(C_1)cap ...cap X_{t_n}^{-1}(C_n) : t_1<t_2 <...<t_nleq t, C_1,...,C_ninmathcal C, n=1,2,....}
    end{align}


    Of course, if $Ain mathcal C_t^X$, then $omega in A$ if and only if
    begin{align*}
    X_{t_1}(omega) in C_1,....,X_{t_n}(omega)in C_n
    end{align*}

    for some set $C_1, C_2,..$ etc. But then it is immediately clear that $omega'in A$. I can only do this in the case $A$ is in the $pi$-system. How can I conclude that the assertion also holds if $A$ is not in the $pi$-system?










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      I'm selfstudying stochastic processes. There is a question on the characterization of sets in $mathcal F_t^X:=sigma({X_s: sleq t })$.



      Let $T subset mathbb R^+$ be the time index set. We consider $Omega subset E^T$ where $E$ is some (nice) set, e.g. $mathbb R$ with the property that for eacht $tin T$ and $omegain Omega$ there is $bar omega in Omega$ such that $bar omega_s = omega_{swedge t}$ for all $sin T$ (I personally don't know why we need this). Let $mathcal F=mathcal E^Tcap Omega$ where $mathcal E^T$ is the $sigma$-algebra on $E^T$. Let $X=(X_t)_{tin T}$ be the canonical process on $(Omega,mathcal F)$.



      The problem I have is to prove the following assertion:




      Assertion. $Ain mathcal F^X_t$ implies the following





      1. $Ainmathcal F_infty^X$.


      2. $omega in A$ and $X_s(omega)=X_s(omega')$ for all $sin T$ with $sleq t$ imply $omega'in A$.




      Attempt.



      Number (1) follows from $mathcal F_t^Xsubsetmathcal F_infty^X$. But I'm having troubles with the second implication. I started like this, let $mathcal C$ be a $pi$-system that generates $mathcal E$. Then in one of the notes they say $mathcal F_t^X$ is generated by the following $pi$-system $mathcal C_t^X$, defined as
      begin{align}
      mathcal C_t^X = {X_{t_1}^{-1}(C_1)cap ...cap X_{t_n}^{-1}(C_n) : t_1<t_2 <...<t_nleq t, C_1,...,C_ninmathcal C, n=1,2,....}
      end{align}


      Of course, if $Ain mathcal C_t^X$, then $omega in A$ if and only if
      begin{align*}
      X_{t_1}(omega) in C_1,....,X_{t_n}(omega)in C_n
      end{align*}

      for some set $C_1, C_2,..$ etc. But then it is immediately clear that $omega'in A$. I can only do this in the case $A$ is in the $pi$-system. How can I conclude that the assertion also holds if $A$ is not in the $pi$-system?










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      I'm selfstudying stochastic processes. There is a question on the characterization of sets in $mathcal F_t^X:=sigma({X_s: sleq t })$.



      Let $T subset mathbb R^+$ be the time index set. We consider $Omega subset E^T$ where $E$ is some (nice) set, e.g. $mathbb R$ with the property that for eacht $tin T$ and $omegain Omega$ there is $bar omega in Omega$ such that $bar omega_s = omega_{swedge t}$ for all $sin T$ (I personally don't know why we need this). Let $mathcal F=mathcal E^Tcap Omega$ where $mathcal E^T$ is the $sigma$-algebra on $E^T$. Let $X=(X_t)_{tin T}$ be the canonical process on $(Omega,mathcal F)$.



      The problem I have is to prove the following assertion:




      Assertion. $Ain mathcal F^X_t$ implies the following





      1. $Ainmathcal F_infty^X$.


      2. $omega in A$ and $X_s(omega)=X_s(omega')$ for all $sin T$ with $sleq t$ imply $omega'in A$.




      Attempt.



      Number (1) follows from $mathcal F_t^Xsubsetmathcal F_infty^X$. But I'm having troubles with the second implication. I started like this, let $mathcal C$ be a $pi$-system that generates $mathcal E$. Then in one of the notes they say $mathcal F_t^X$ is generated by the following $pi$-system $mathcal C_t^X$, defined as
      begin{align}
      mathcal C_t^X = {X_{t_1}^{-1}(C_1)cap ...cap X_{t_n}^{-1}(C_n) : t_1<t_2 <...<t_nleq t, C_1,...,C_ninmathcal C, n=1,2,....}
      end{align}


      Of course, if $Ain mathcal C_t^X$, then $omega in A$ if and only if
      begin{align*}
      X_{t_1}(omega) in C_1,....,X_{t_n}(omega)in C_n
      end{align*}

      for some set $C_1, C_2,..$ etc. But then it is immediately clear that $omega'in A$. I can only do this in the case $A$ is in the $pi$-system. How can I conclude that the assertion also holds if $A$ is not in the $pi$-system?







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          For $t in T$ define a mapping $a_t: Omega to Omega$ by



          $$a_t(omega)(s) := omega(t wedge s), qquad s in T.$$



          This mapping is well-defined because of the property of $Omega subseteq E^T$ which you mentioned in your question.




          Claim: $mathcal{F}_t^X subseteq mathcal{G}_t := a_t^{-1}(mathcal{F}_{infty}^X)$




          Proof: It suffices to show that $X_s$ is $mathcal{G}_t$-measurable for any $s leq t$, $s in T$. Since $$X_s(omega) = omega(s) = omega(s wedge t) = a_t(omega)(s) = X_s(a_t(omega))$$ for any $s leq t$, $s in T$, we have $${X_s in B} = {X_s(a_t) in B} = {a_t in X_s^{-1}(B)} in a_t^{-1}(mathcal{F}_{infty}^X)$$ for any measurable set $B$. Hence, $X_s$ is $mathcal{G}_t$-measurable, and this finishes the proof.





          Fix $A in mathcal{F}_t^X$. By the above result, there exists $C in mathcal{F}_{infty}^X$ such that $A = a_t^{-1}(C)$. Now if $omega in A$ and $omega' in Omega$ are such that $$forall s leq t, s in T: quad X_s(omega) = X_s(omega')$$ then $$forall s leq t, s in T: quad omega(s) = omega'(s),$$ and so $a_t(omega)=a_t(omega')$. Thus,



          $$1_A(omega') = 1_{a_t^{-1}(C)}(omega') = 1_C(a_t(omega')) = 1_C(a_t(omega)) = 1_A(omega)=1,$$



          i.e. $omega' in A$.






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            I love this answer! Although it is really simple, it taught me tricks which is very valuable in my learning progress! I don't know how to thank you! I will put a bounty on this answer when I'm allowed to do so!
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            @Shashi You are welcome; I'm glad I could help you. Two remarks: 1. It's possible to show that $mathcal{F}_t = mathcal{G}_t$. 2. There is an analogous statement for $sigma$-algebras generated by stopping times, it's known as Galmarino's test, see this question for details.
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            O, wow! That is exactly the second part of this question! It is nice to have a solution somewhere to check it.
            $endgroup$
            – Shashi
            Nov 25 '18 at 20:49










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            Sorry to disturb you, but I have a small question concerning your other answer, I mean why so technical? I have the same question with $tau(omega) leq t$ instead of equal sign. But then $omegain A={omega": tau(omega") leq t} in mathcal F_t^X$. But then if $X_s(omega) =X_s(omega') $ then I have $omega'in A$ by the above, proving one way of Galmarino. I don't see why such argument does not work... Is there something subtle going wrong with my reasoning?
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            – Shashi
            Nov 26 '18 at 16:49








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            @Shashi Yes, I do really like your idea (...not sure about my "status", though...) I just rewrote the proof; it works out nicely and, in particular, I got rid of (almost) all the technical stuff.
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            – saz
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          $begingroup$

          For $t in T$ define a mapping $a_t: Omega to Omega$ by



          $$a_t(omega)(s) := omega(t wedge s), qquad s in T.$$



          This mapping is well-defined because of the property of $Omega subseteq E^T$ which you mentioned in your question.




          Claim: $mathcal{F}_t^X subseteq mathcal{G}_t := a_t^{-1}(mathcal{F}_{infty}^X)$




          Proof: It suffices to show that $X_s$ is $mathcal{G}_t$-measurable for any $s leq t$, $s in T$. Since $$X_s(omega) = omega(s) = omega(s wedge t) = a_t(omega)(s) = X_s(a_t(omega))$$ for any $s leq t$, $s in T$, we have $${X_s in B} = {X_s(a_t) in B} = {a_t in X_s^{-1}(B)} in a_t^{-1}(mathcal{F}_{infty}^X)$$ for any measurable set $B$. Hence, $X_s$ is $mathcal{G}_t$-measurable, and this finishes the proof.





          Fix $A in mathcal{F}_t^X$. By the above result, there exists $C in mathcal{F}_{infty}^X$ such that $A = a_t^{-1}(C)$. Now if $omega in A$ and $omega' in Omega$ are such that $$forall s leq t, s in T: quad X_s(omega) = X_s(omega')$$ then $$forall s leq t, s in T: quad omega(s) = omega'(s),$$ and so $a_t(omega)=a_t(omega')$. Thus,



          $$1_A(omega') = 1_{a_t^{-1}(C)}(omega') = 1_C(a_t(omega')) = 1_C(a_t(omega)) = 1_A(omega)=1,$$



          i.e. $omega' in A$.






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            I love this answer! Although it is really simple, it taught me tricks which is very valuable in my learning progress! I don't know how to thank you! I will put a bounty on this answer when I'm allowed to do so!
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            @Shashi You are welcome; I'm glad I could help you. Two remarks: 1. It's possible to show that $mathcal{F}_t = mathcal{G}_t$. 2. There is an analogous statement for $sigma$-algebras generated by stopping times, it's known as Galmarino's test, see this question for details.
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            O, wow! That is exactly the second part of this question! It is nice to have a solution somewhere to check it.
            $endgroup$
            – Shashi
            Nov 25 '18 at 20:49










          • $begingroup$
            Sorry to disturb you, but I have a small question concerning your other answer, I mean why so technical? I have the same question with $tau(omega) leq t$ instead of equal sign. But then $omegain A={omega": tau(omega") leq t} in mathcal F_t^X$. But then if $X_s(omega) =X_s(omega') $ then I have $omega'in A$ by the above, proving one way of Galmarino. I don't see why such argument does not work... Is there something subtle going wrong with my reasoning?
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            – Shashi
            Nov 26 '18 at 16:49








          • 1




            $begingroup$
            @Shashi Yes, I do really like your idea (...not sure about my "status", though...) I just rewrote the proof; it works out nicely and, in particular, I got rid of (almost) all the technical stuff.
            $endgroup$
            – saz
            Nov 28 '18 at 13:12


















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          $begingroup$

          For $t in T$ define a mapping $a_t: Omega to Omega$ by



          $$a_t(omega)(s) := omega(t wedge s), qquad s in T.$$



          This mapping is well-defined because of the property of $Omega subseteq E^T$ which you mentioned in your question.




          Claim: $mathcal{F}_t^X subseteq mathcal{G}_t := a_t^{-1}(mathcal{F}_{infty}^X)$




          Proof: It suffices to show that $X_s$ is $mathcal{G}_t$-measurable for any $s leq t$, $s in T$. Since $$X_s(omega) = omega(s) = omega(s wedge t) = a_t(omega)(s) = X_s(a_t(omega))$$ for any $s leq t$, $s in T$, we have $${X_s in B} = {X_s(a_t) in B} = {a_t in X_s^{-1}(B)} in a_t^{-1}(mathcal{F}_{infty}^X)$$ for any measurable set $B$. Hence, $X_s$ is $mathcal{G}_t$-measurable, and this finishes the proof.





          Fix $A in mathcal{F}_t^X$. By the above result, there exists $C in mathcal{F}_{infty}^X$ such that $A = a_t^{-1}(C)$. Now if $omega in A$ and $omega' in Omega$ are such that $$forall s leq t, s in T: quad X_s(omega) = X_s(omega')$$ then $$forall s leq t, s in T: quad omega(s) = omega'(s),$$ and so $a_t(omega)=a_t(omega')$. Thus,



          $$1_A(omega') = 1_{a_t^{-1}(C)}(omega') = 1_C(a_t(omega')) = 1_C(a_t(omega)) = 1_A(omega)=1,$$



          i.e. $omega' in A$.






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            I love this answer! Although it is really simple, it taught me tricks which is very valuable in my learning progress! I don't know how to thank you! I will put a bounty on this answer when I'm allowed to do so!
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            – Shashi
            Nov 25 '18 at 19:57








          • 1




            $begingroup$
            @Shashi You are welcome; I'm glad I could help you. Two remarks: 1. It's possible to show that $mathcal{F}_t = mathcal{G}_t$. 2. There is an analogous statement for $sigma$-algebras generated by stopping times, it's known as Galmarino's test, see this question for details.
            $endgroup$
            – saz
            Nov 25 '18 at 20:46










          • $begingroup$
            O, wow! That is exactly the second part of this question! It is nice to have a solution somewhere to check it.
            $endgroup$
            – Shashi
            Nov 25 '18 at 20:49










          • $begingroup$
            Sorry to disturb you, but I have a small question concerning your other answer, I mean why so technical? I have the same question with $tau(omega) leq t$ instead of equal sign. But then $omegain A={omega": tau(omega") leq t} in mathcal F_t^X$. But then if $X_s(omega) =X_s(omega') $ then I have $omega'in A$ by the above, proving one way of Galmarino. I don't see why such argument does not work... Is there something subtle going wrong with my reasoning?
            $endgroup$
            – Shashi
            Nov 26 '18 at 16:49








          • 1




            $begingroup$
            @Shashi Yes, I do really like your idea (...not sure about my "status", though...) I just rewrote the proof; it works out nicely and, in particular, I got rid of (almost) all the technical stuff.
            $endgroup$
            – saz
            Nov 28 '18 at 13:12
















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          $begingroup$

          For $t in T$ define a mapping $a_t: Omega to Omega$ by



          $$a_t(omega)(s) := omega(t wedge s), qquad s in T.$$



          This mapping is well-defined because of the property of $Omega subseteq E^T$ which you mentioned in your question.




          Claim: $mathcal{F}_t^X subseteq mathcal{G}_t := a_t^{-1}(mathcal{F}_{infty}^X)$




          Proof: It suffices to show that $X_s$ is $mathcal{G}_t$-measurable for any $s leq t$, $s in T$. Since $$X_s(omega) = omega(s) = omega(s wedge t) = a_t(omega)(s) = X_s(a_t(omega))$$ for any $s leq t$, $s in T$, we have $${X_s in B} = {X_s(a_t) in B} = {a_t in X_s^{-1}(B)} in a_t^{-1}(mathcal{F}_{infty}^X)$$ for any measurable set $B$. Hence, $X_s$ is $mathcal{G}_t$-measurable, and this finishes the proof.





          Fix $A in mathcal{F}_t^X$. By the above result, there exists $C in mathcal{F}_{infty}^X$ such that $A = a_t^{-1}(C)$. Now if $omega in A$ and $omega' in Omega$ are such that $$forall s leq t, s in T: quad X_s(omega) = X_s(omega')$$ then $$forall s leq t, s in T: quad omega(s) = omega'(s),$$ and so $a_t(omega)=a_t(omega')$. Thus,



          $$1_A(omega') = 1_{a_t^{-1}(C)}(omega') = 1_C(a_t(omega')) = 1_C(a_t(omega)) = 1_A(omega)=1,$$



          i.e. $omega' in A$.






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          For $t in T$ define a mapping $a_t: Omega to Omega$ by



          $$a_t(omega)(s) := omega(t wedge s), qquad s in T.$$



          This mapping is well-defined because of the property of $Omega subseteq E^T$ which you mentioned in your question.




          Claim: $mathcal{F}_t^X subseteq mathcal{G}_t := a_t^{-1}(mathcal{F}_{infty}^X)$




          Proof: It suffices to show that $X_s$ is $mathcal{G}_t$-measurable for any $s leq t$, $s in T$. Since $$X_s(omega) = omega(s) = omega(s wedge t) = a_t(omega)(s) = X_s(a_t(omega))$$ for any $s leq t$, $s in T$, we have $${X_s in B} = {X_s(a_t) in B} = {a_t in X_s^{-1}(B)} in a_t^{-1}(mathcal{F}_{infty}^X)$$ for any measurable set $B$. Hence, $X_s$ is $mathcal{G}_t$-measurable, and this finishes the proof.





          Fix $A in mathcal{F}_t^X$. By the above result, there exists $C in mathcal{F}_{infty}^X$ such that $A = a_t^{-1}(C)$. Now if $omega in A$ and $omega' in Omega$ are such that $$forall s leq t, s in T: quad X_s(omega) = X_s(omega')$$ then $$forall s leq t, s in T: quad omega(s) = omega'(s),$$ and so $a_t(omega)=a_t(omega')$. Thus,



          $$1_A(omega') = 1_{a_t^{-1}(C)}(omega') = 1_C(a_t(omega')) = 1_C(a_t(omega)) = 1_A(omega)=1,$$



          i.e. $omega' in A$.







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            I love this answer! Although it is really simple, it taught me tricks which is very valuable in my learning progress! I don't know how to thank you! I will put a bounty on this answer when I'm allowed to do so!
            $endgroup$
            – Shashi
            Nov 25 '18 at 19:57








          • 1




            $begingroup$
            @Shashi You are welcome; I'm glad I could help you. Two remarks: 1. It's possible to show that $mathcal{F}_t = mathcal{G}_t$. 2. There is an analogous statement for $sigma$-algebras generated by stopping times, it's known as Galmarino's test, see this question for details.
            $endgroup$
            – saz
            Nov 25 '18 at 20:46










          • $begingroup$
            O, wow! That is exactly the second part of this question! It is nice to have a solution somewhere to check it.
            $endgroup$
            – Shashi
            Nov 25 '18 at 20:49










          • $begingroup$
            Sorry to disturb you, but I have a small question concerning your other answer, I mean why so technical? I have the same question with $tau(omega) leq t$ instead of equal sign. But then $omegain A={omega": tau(omega") leq t} in mathcal F_t^X$. But then if $X_s(omega) =X_s(omega') $ then I have $omega'in A$ by the above, proving one way of Galmarino. I don't see why such argument does not work... Is there something subtle going wrong with my reasoning?
            $endgroup$
            – Shashi
            Nov 26 '18 at 16:49








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            @Shashi Yes, I do really like your idea (...not sure about my "status", though...) I just rewrote the proof; it works out nicely and, in particular, I got rid of (almost) all the technical stuff.
            $endgroup$
            – saz
            Nov 28 '18 at 13:12




















          • $begingroup$
            I love this answer! Although it is really simple, it taught me tricks which is very valuable in my learning progress! I don't know how to thank you! I will put a bounty on this answer when I'm allowed to do so!
            $endgroup$
            – Shashi
            Nov 25 '18 at 19:57








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            $begingroup$
            @Shashi You are welcome; I'm glad I could help you. Two remarks: 1. It's possible to show that $mathcal{F}_t = mathcal{G}_t$. 2. There is an analogous statement for $sigma$-algebras generated by stopping times, it's known as Galmarino's test, see this question for details.
            $endgroup$
            – saz
            Nov 25 '18 at 20:46










          • $begingroup$
            O, wow! That is exactly the second part of this question! It is nice to have a solution somewhere to check it.
            $endgroup$
            – Shashi
            Nov 25 '18 at 20:49










          • $begingroup$
            Sorry to disturb you, but I have a small question concerning your other answer, I mean why so technical? I have the same question with $tau(omega) leq t$ instead of equal sign. But then $omegain A={omega": tau(omega") leq t} in mathcal F_t^X$. But then if $X_s(omega) =X_s(omega') $ then I have $omega'in A$ by the above, proving one way of Galmarino. I don't see why such argument does not work... Is there something subtle going wrong with my reasoning?
            $endgroup$
            – Shashi
            Nov 26 '18 at 16:49








          • 1




            $begingroup$
            @Shashi Yes, I do really like your idea (...not sure about my "status", though...) I just rewrote the proof; it works out nicely and, in particular, I got rid of (almost) all the technical stuff.
            $endgroup$
            – saz
            Nov 28 '18 at 13:12


















          $begingroup$
          I love this answer! Although it is really simple, it taught me tricks which is very valuable in my learning progress! I don't know how to thank you! I will put a bounty on this answer when I'm allowed to do so!
          $endgroup$
          – Shashi
          Nov 25 '18 at 19:57






          $begingroup$
          I love this answer! Although it is really simple, it taught me tricks which is very valuable in my learning progress! I don't know how to thank you! I will put a bounty on this answer when I'm allowed to do so!
          $endgroup$
          – Shashi
          Nov 25 '18 at 19:57






          1




          1




          $begingroup$
          @Shashi You are welcome; I'm glad I could help you. Two remarks: 1. It's possible to show that $mathcal{F}_t = mathcal{G}_t$. 2. There is an analogous statement for $sigma$-algebras generated by stopping times, it's known as Galmarino's test, see this question for details.
          $endgroup$
          – saz
          Nov 25 '18 at 20:46




          $begingroup$
          @Shashi You are welcome; I'm glad I could help you. Two remarks: 1. It's possible to show that $mathcal{F}_t = mathcal{G}_t$. 2. There is an analogous statement for $sigma$-algebras generated by stopping times, it's known as Galmarino's test, see this question for details.
          $endgroup$
          – saz
          Nov 25 '18 at 20:46












          $begingroup$
          O, wow! That is exactly the second part of this question! It is nice to have a solution somewhere to check it.
          $endgroup$
          – Shashi
          Nov 25 '18 at 20:49




          $begingroup$
          O, wow! That is exactly the second part of this question! It is nice to have a solution somewhere to check it.
          $endgroup$
          – Shashi
          Nov 25 '18 at 20:49












          $begingroup$
          Sorry to disturb you, but I have a small question concerning your other answer, I mean why so technical? I have the same question with $tau(omega) leq t$ instead of equal sign. But then $omegain A={omega": tau(omega") leq t} in mathcal F_t^X$. But then if $X_s(omega) =X_s(omega') $ then I have $omega'in A$ by the above, proving one way of Galmarino. I don't see why such argument does not work... Is there something subtle going wrong with my reasoning?
          $endgroup$
          – Shashi
          Nov 26 '18 at 16:49






          $begingroup$
          Sorry to disturb you, but I have a small question concerning your other answer, I mean why so technical? I have the same question with $tau(omega) leq t$ instead of equal sign. But then $omegain A={omega": tau(omega") leq t} in mathcal F_t^X$. But then if $X_s(omega) =X_s(omega') $ then I have $omega'in A$ by the above, proving one way of Galmarino. I don't see why such argument does not work... Is there something subtle going wrong with my reasoning?
          $endgroup$
          – Shashi
          Nov 26 '18 at 16:49






          1




          1




          $begingroup$
          @Shashi Yes, I do really like your idea (...not sure about my "status", though...) I just rewrote the proof; it works out nicely and, in particular, I got rid of (almost) all the technical stuff.
          $endgroup$
          – saz
          Nov 28 '18 at 13:12






          $begingroup$
          @Shashi Yes, I do really like your idea (...not sure about my "status", though...) I just rewrote the proof; it works out nicely and, in particular, I got rid of (almost) all the technical stuff.
          $endgroup$
          – saz
          Nov 28 '18 at 13:12




















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