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Let $f(x) in mathbb{Z}[x]$. Prove that $f(x)$ has a root in $mathbb{Q}$ iff there is a ring homomorphism from $mathbb{Z}[x]/(f(x)) rightarrow mathbb{Q}$.



I tried using a homomorphism from $mathbb{Z}[x] rightarrow mathbb{Q}$ defined by $varphi(f(x)) = f(q)$ for a fixed $q in mathbb{Q}$. When $q$ is a root this could be useful, but that's all I've managed to come up with, and I'm unclear how to proceed.










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    Let $f(x) in mathbb{Z}[x]$. Prove that $f(x)$ has a root in $mathbb{Q}$ iff there is a ring homomorphism from $mathbb{Z}[x]/(f(x)) rightarrow mathbb{Q}$.



    I tried using a homomorphism from $mathbb{Z}[x] rightarrow mathbb{Q}$ defined by $varphi(f(x)) = f(q)$ for a fixed $q in mathbb{Q}$. When $q$ is a root this could be useful, but that's all I've managed to come up with, and I'm unclear how to proceed.










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      Let $f(x) in mathbb{Z}[x]$. Prove that $f(x)$ has a root in $mathbb{Q}$ iff there is a ring homomorphism from $mathbb{Z}[x]/(f(x)) rightarrow mathbb{Q}$.



      I tried using a homomorphism from $mathbb{Z}[x] rightarrow mathbb{Q}$ defined by $varphi(f(x)) = f(q)$ for a fixed $q in mathbb{Q}$. When $q$ is a root this could be useful, but that's all I've managed to come up with, and I'm unclear how to proceed.










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      Let $f(x) in mathbb{Z}[x]$. Prove that $f(x)$ has a root in $mathbb{Q}$ iff there is a ring homomorphism from $mathbb{Z}[x]/(f(x)) rightarrow mathbb{Q}$.



      I tried using a homomorphism from $mathbb{Z}[x] rightarrow mathbb{Q}$ defined by $varphi(f(x)) = f(q)$ for a fixed $q in mathbb{Q}$. When $q$ is a root this could be useful, but that's all I've managed to come up with, and I'm unclear how to proceed.







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          The following lemma will be useful.



          Lemma. Let $varphi: A to B$ be a ring homomorphism and $I$ be an ideal of $A$. Then $varphi$ descends to a homomorphism $overline{varphi}: A/I to B$ iff $I subseteq ker(varphi)$.



          You've defined the map
          begin{align*}
          varphi: mathbb{Z}[x] &to mathbb{Q}\
          g(x) &mapsto g(q)
          end{align*}

          Can you see why you can apply the lemma to get a map on the quotient? (As a note, you shouldn't use $f(x)$ to refer to two different things.)






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            A ring homomorphism $Bbb Z[X]/(f(X))toBbb Q$ is essentially a ring homomorphism
            $phi:Bbb Z[X]toBbb Q$ with the property that $phi(f(X))=0$.



            The ring homomorphisms $Bbb Z[X]toBbb Q$ all have the form $phi_q:g(X)mapsto
            g(q)$
            for $qinBbb Q$, as you say. This map induces a homomorphism
            $Bbb Z[X]/(f(X))toBbb Q$ iff $phi_q(f(X))=0$. But $phi_q(f(X))=f(q)$.






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              Recall that a map between unital rings $mathbb{Z}[X] xrightarrow{q} A$ is determined by $q(X)$. Moreover, if $q_x := q(X)$, then $q(f) = f(q_x)$. This comes from writing $f$ as a sum of monomials, expanding and using that $f(X) = q_x$. Hence all morphisms $mathbb{Z}[X] to A$ are an evaluation.



              So, take $ev_x$ an evaluation map from $mathbb{Z}[X]$ to $mathbb{Q} ni x$. If $f(x) = ev_x(f) = 0$, then $(f) subset ker(ev_x)$ and so $ev_x$ factors through $mathbb{Z}[X]/(f)$. To see this you can appeal to the first isomorphism theorem.



              Reciprocally, if you have a morphism $q : mathbb{Z}[X]/(f) to mathbb{Q}$, then you have a morphism $g = qpi$ defined as the following composition,



              $$
              mathbb{Z}[X] xrightarrow{pi} mathbb{Z}[X]/(f) xrightarrow{q} mathbb{Q}.
              $$



              We have proved that $g equiv ev_x$ for some rational $x$. Thus,



              $$
              f(x) = ev_x(f) = g(f) = qpi(f) = q(0) = 0,
              $$



              which concludes the proof.






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                The following lemma will be useful.



                Lemma. Let $varphi: A to B$ be a ring homomorphism and $I$ be an ideal of $A$. Then $varphi$ descends to a homomorphism $overline{varphi}: A/I to B$ iff $I subseteq ker(varphi)$.



                You've defined the map
                begin{align*}
                varphi: mathbb{Z}[x] &to mathbb{Q}\
                g(x) &mapsto g(q)
                end{align*}

                Can you see why you can apply the lemma to get a map on the quotient? (As a note, you shouldn't use $f(x)$ to refer to two different things.)






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                  The following lemma will be useful.



                  Lemma. Let $varphi: A to B$ be a ring homomorphism and $I$ be an ideal of $A$. Then $varphi$ descends to a homomorphism $overline{varphi}: A/I to B$ iff $I subseteq ker(varphi)$.



                  You've defined the map
                  begin{align*}
                  varphi: mathbb{Z}[x] &to mathbb{Q}\
                  g(x) &mapsto g(q)
                  end{align*}

                  Can you see why you can apply the lemma to get a map on the quotient? (As a note, you shouldn't use $f(x)$ to refer to two different things.)






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                    The following lemma will be useful.



                    Lemma. Let $varphi: A to B$ be a ring homomorphism and $I$ be an ideal of $A$. Then $varphi$ descends to a homomorphism $overline{varphi}: A/I to B$ iff $I subseteq ker(varphi)$.



                    You've defined the map
                    begin{align*}
                    varphi: mathbb{Z}[x] &to mathbb{Q}\
                    g(x) &mapsto g(q)
                    end{align*}

                    Can you see why you can apply the lemma to get a map on the quotient? (As a note, you shouldn't use $f(x)$ to refer to two different things.)






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                    The following lemma will be useful.



                    Lemma. Let $varphi: A to B$ be a ring homomorphism and $I$ be an ideal of $A$. Then $varphi$ descends to a homomorphism $overline{varphi}: A/I to B$ iff $I subseteq ker(varphi)$.



                    You've defined the map
                    begin{align*}
                    varphi: mathbb{Z}[x] &to mathbb{Q}\
                    g(x) &mapsto g(q)
                    end{align*}

                    Can you see why you can apply the lemma to get a map on the quotient? (As a note, you shouldn't use $f(x)$ to refer to two different things.)







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                        A ring homomorphism $Bbb Z[X]/(f(X))toBbb Q$ is essentially a ring homomorphism
                        $phi:Bbb Z[X]toBbb Q$ with the property that $phi(f(X))=0$.



                        The ring homomorphisms $Bbb Z[X]toBbb Q$ all have the form $phi_q:g(X)mapsto
                        g(q)$
                        for $qinBbb Q$, as you say. This map induces a homomorphism
                        $Bbb Z[X]/(f(X))toBbb Q$ iff $phi_q(f(X))=0$. But $phi_q(f(X))=f(q)$.






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                          A ring homomorphism $Bbb Z[X]/(f(X))toBbb Q$ is essentially a ring homomorphism
                          $phi:Bbb Z[X]toBbb Q$ with the property that $phi(f(X))=0$.



                          The ring homomorphisms $Bbb Z[X]toBbb Q$ all have the form $phi_q:g(X)mapsto
                          g(q)$
                          for $qinBbb Q$, as you say. This map induces a homomorphism
                          $Bbb Z[X]/(f(X))toBbb Q$ iff $phi_q(f(X))=0$. But $phi_q(f(X))=f(q)$.






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                            A ring homomorphism $Bbb Z[X]/(f(X))toBbb Q$ is essentially a ring homomorphism
                            $phi:Bbb Z[X]toBbb Q$ with the property that $phi(f(X))=0$.



                            The ring homomorphisms $Bbb Z[X]toBbb Q$ all have the form $phi_q:g(X)mapsto
                            g(q)$
                            for $qinBbb Q$, as you say. This map induces a homomorphism
                            $Bbb Z[X]/(f(X))toBbb Q$ iff $phi_q(f(X))=0$. But $phi_q(f(X))=f(q)$.






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                            A ring homomorphism $Bbb Z[X]/(f(X))toBbb Q$ is essentially a ring homomorphism
                            $phi:Bbb Z[X]toBbb Q$ with the property that $phi(f(X))=0$.



                            The ring homomorphisms $Bbb Z[X]toBbb Q$ all have the form $phi_q:g(X)mapsto
                            g(q)$
                            for $qinBbb Q$, as you say. This map induces a homomorphism
                            $Bbb Z[X]/(f(X))toBbb Q$ iff $phi_q(f(X))=0$. But $phi_q(f(X))=f(q)$.







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                                Recall that a map between unital rings $mathbb{Z}[X] xrightarrow{q} A$ is determined by $q(X)$. Moreover, if $q_x := q(X)$, then $q(f) = f(q_x)$. This comes from writing $f$ as a sum of monomials, expanding and using that $f(X) = q_x$. Hence all morphisms $mathbb{Z}[X] to A$ are an evaluation.



                                So, take $ev_x$ an evaluation map from $mathbb{Z}[X]$ to $mathbb{Q} ni x$. If $f(x) = ev_x(f) = 0$, then $(f) subset ker(ev_x)$ and so $ev_x$ factors through $mathbb{Z}[X]/(f)$. To see this you can appeal to the first isomorphism theorem.



                                Reciprocally, if you have a morphism $q : mathbb{Z}[X]/(f) to mathbb{Q}$, then you have a morphism $g = qpi$ defined as the following composition,



                                $$
                                mathbb{Z}[X] xrightarrow{pi} mathbb{Z}[X]/(f) xrightarrow{q} mathbb{Q}.
                                $$



                                We have proved that $g equiv ev_x$ for some rational $x$. Thus,



                                $$
                                f(x) = ev_x(f) = g(f) = qpi(f) = q(0) = 0,
                                $$



                                which concludes the proof.






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                                  Recall that a map between unital rings $mathbb{Z}[X] xrightarrow{q} A$ is determined by $q(X)$. Moreover, if $q_x := q(X)$, then $q(f) = f(q_x)$. This comes from writing $f$ as a sum of monomials, expanding and using that $f(X) = q_x$. Hence all morphisms $mathbb{Z}[X] to A$ are an evaluation.



                                  So, take $ev_x$ an evaluation map from $mathbb{Z}[X]$ to $mathbb{Q} ni x$. If $f(x) = ev_x(f) = 0$, then $(f) subset ker(ev_x)$ and so $ev_x$ factors through $mathbb{Z}[X]/(f)$. To see this you can appeal to the first isomorphism theorem.



                                  Reciprocally, if you have a morphism $q : mathbb{Z}[X]/(f) to mathbb{Q}$, then you have a morphism $g = qpi$ defined as the following composition,



                                  $$
                                  mathbb{Z}[X] xrightarrow{pi} mathbb{Z}[X]/(f) xrightarrow{q} mathbb{Q}.
                                  $$



                                  We have proved that $g equiv ev_x$ for some rational $x$. Thus,



                                  $$
                                  f(x) = ev_x(f) = g(f) = qpi(f) = q(0) = 0,
                                  $$



                                  which concludes the proof.






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                                    Recall that a map between unital rings $mathbb{Z}[X] xrightarrow{q} A$ is determined by $q(X)$. Moreover, if $q_x := q(X)$, then $q(f) = f(q_x)$. This comes from writing $f$ as a sum of monomials, expanding and using that $f(X) = q_x$. Hence all morphisms $mathbb{Z}[X] to A$ are an evaluation.



                                    So, take $ev_x$ an evaluation map from $mathbb{Z}[X]$ to $mathbb{Q} ni x$. If $f(x) = ev_x(f) = 0$, then $(f) subset ker(ev_x)$ and so $ev_x$ factors through $mathbb{Z}[X]/(f)$. To see this you can appeal to the first isomorphism theorem.



                                    Reciprocally, if you have a morphism $q : mathbb{Z}[X]/(f) to mathbb{Q}$, then you have a morphism $g = qpi$ defined as the following composition,



                                    $$
                                    mathbb{Z}[X] xrightarrow{pi} mathbb{Z}[X]/(f) xrightarrow{q} mathbb{Q}.
                                    $$



                                    We have proved that $g equiv ev_x$ for some rational $x$. Thus,



                                    $$
                                    f(x) = ev_x(f) = g(f) = qpi(f) = q(0) = 0,
                                    $$



                                    which concludes the proof.






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                                    Recall that a map between unital rings $mathbb{Z}[X] xrightarrow{q} A$ is determined by $q(X)$. Moreover, if $q_x := q(X)$, then $q(f) = f(q_x)$. This comes from writing $f$ as a sum of monomials, expanding and using that $f(X) = q_x$. Hence all morphisms $mathbb{Z}[X] to A$ are an evaluation.



                                    So, take $ev_x$ an evaluation map from $mathbb{Z}[X]$ to $mathbb{Q} ni x$. If $f(x) = ev_x(f) = 0$, then $(f) subset ker(ev_x)$ and so $ev_x$ factors through $mathbb{Z}[X]/(f)$. To see this you can appeal to the first isomorphism theorem.



                                    Reciprocally, if you have a morphism $q : mathbb{Z}[X]/(f) to mathbb{Q}$, then you have a morphism $g = qpi$ defined as the following composition,



                                    $$
                                    mathbb{Z}[X] xrightarrow{pi} mathbb{Z}[X]/(f) xrightarrow{q} mathbb{Q}.
                                    $$



                                    We have proved that $g equiv ev_x$ for some rational $x$. Thus,



                                    $$
                                    f(x) = ev_x(f) = g(f) = qpi(f) = q(0) = 0,
                                    $$



                                    which concludes the proof.







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