Why is my proof that $mathbb R$ is disconnected wrong?
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The definition of connectedness in my notes is:
A topological space $X$ is connected if there does not exist a pair of non empty subsets $U$, $V$ such that $Ucap V=emptyset$ and $Ucup V=X$.
However if I have the subsets $(-infty,0]$ and $(0,infty)$ then these are disjoint and cover $mathbb R$ and hence $mathbb R$ is disconnected.
However $mathbb R$ is clearly connected. Where have I gone wrong?
general-topology proof-verification elementary-set-theory connectedness
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The definition of connectedness in my notes is:
A topological space $X$ is connected if there does not exist a pair of non empty subsets $U$, $V$ such that $Ucap V=emptyset$ and $Ucup V=X$.
However if I have the subsets $(-infty,0]$ and $(0,infty)$ then these are disjoint and cover $mathbb R$ and hence $mathbb R$ is disconnected.
However $mathbb R$ is clearly connected. Where have I gone wrong?
general-topology proof-verification elementary-set-theory connectedness
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Open sets. You're missing the point 'open sets'.
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– Anik Bhowmick
Dec 8 '18 at 11:39
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Yes thank you, that would fix it
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– Toby Peterken
Dec 8 '18 at 11:45
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You're welcome.
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– Anik Bhowmick
Dec 8 '18 at 11:47
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The definition of connectedness in my notes is:
A topological space $X$ is connected if there does not exist a pair of non empty subsets $U$, $V$ such that $Ucap V=emptyset$ and $Ucup V=X$.
However if I have the subsets $(-infty,0]$ and $(0,infty)$ then these are disjoint and cover $mathbb R$ and hence $mathbb R$ is disconnected.
However $mathbb R$ is clearly connected. Where have I gone wrong?
general-topology proof-verification elementary-set-theory connectedness
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The definition of connectedness in my notes is:
A topological space $X$ is connected if there does not exist a pair of non empty subsets $U$, $V$ such that $Ucap V=emptyset$ and $Ucup V=X$.
However if I have the subsets $(-infty,0]$ and $(0,infty)$ then these are disjoint and cover $mathbb R$ and hence $mathbb R$ is disconnected.
However $mathbb R$ is clearly connected. Where have I gone wrong?
general-topology proof-verification elementary-set-theory connectedness
general-topology proof-verification elementary-set-theory connectedness
asked Dec 8 '18 at 11:34
Toby PeterkenToby Peterken
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Open sets. You're missing the point 'open sets'.
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– Anik Bhowmick
Dec 8 '18 at 11:39
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Yes thank you, that would fix it
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– Toby Peterken
Dec 8 '18 at 11:45
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You're welcome.
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– Anik Bhowmick
Dec 8 '18 at 11:47
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Open sets. You're missing the point 'open sets'.
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– Anik Bhowmick
Dec 8 '18 at 11:39
1
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Yes thank you, that would fix it
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– Toby Peterken
Dec 8 '18 at 11:45
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You're welcome.
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– Anik Bhowmick
Dec 8 '18 at 11:47
5
5
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Open sets. You're missing the point 'open sets'.
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– Anik Bhowmick
Dec 8 '18 at 11:39
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Open sets. You're missing the point 'open sets'.
$endgroup$
– Anik Bhowmick
Dec 8 '18 at 11:39
1
1
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Yes thank you, that would fix it
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– Toby Peterken
Dec 8 '18 at 11:45
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Yes thank you, that would fix it
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– Toby Peterken
Dec 8 '18 at 11:45
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You're welcome.
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– Anik Bhowmick
Dec 8 '18 at 11:47
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You're welcome.
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– Anik Bhowmick
Dec 8 '18 at 11:47
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With your definition, every space $X$ with at least two points would be disconnected: just take a point $xin X$ and consider $X={x}cup(Xsetminus{x})$.
The definition requires $U$ and $V$ to be disjoint nonempty open sets such that $Ucup V=X$.
The set $(-infty,0]$ is not open.
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The subsets that you take are wrong because $(-infty ,0]$ contains a accumulation point of $(0,infty)$.
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With your definition, every space $X$ with at least two points would be disconnected: just take a point $xin X$ and consider $X={x}cup(Xsetminus{x})$.
The definition requires $U$ and $V$ to be disjoint nonempty open sets such that $Ucup V=X$.
The set $(-infty,0]$ is not open.
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With your definition, every space $X$ with at least two points would be disconnected: just take a point $xin X$ and consider $X={x}cup(Xsetminus{x})$.
The definition requires $U$ and $V$ to be disjoint nonempty open sets such that $Ucup V=X$.
The set $(-infty,0]$ is not open.
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With your definition, every space $X$ with at least two points would be disconnected: just take a point $xin X$ and consider $X={x}cup(Xsetminus{x})$.
The definition requires $U$ and $V$ to be disjoint nonempty open sets such that $Ucup V=X$.
The set $(-infty,0]$ is not open.
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With your definition, every space $X$ with at least two points would be disconnected: just take a point $xin X$ and consider $X={x}cup(Xsetminus{x})$.
The definition requires $U$ and $V$ to be disjoint nonempty open sets such that $Ucup V=X$.
The set $(-infty,0]$ is not open.
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The subsets that you take are wrong because $(-infty ,0]$ contains a accumulation point of $(0,infty)$.
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The subsets that you take are wrong because $(-infty ,0]$ contains a accumulation point of $(0,infty)$.
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The subsets that you take are wrong because $(-infty ,0]$ contains a accumulation point of $(0,infty)$.
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The subsets that you take are wrong because $(-infty ,0]$ contains a accumulation point of $(0,infty)$.
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– Anik Bhowmick
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Yes thank you, that would fix it
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