Why is ${f,|,fcolon Atomathbb N}$ not uncountable?
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Let $S={,f,|,fcolon Atomathbb N}$, where $A={1,2}$.
I thought cardinality of $S$ is $2^{|mathbb N|}=aleph_0$. But my friend told that my answer was wrong.
Please help me where is I am wrong.
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Let $S={,f,|,fcolon Atomathbb N}$, where $A={1,2}$.
I thought cardinality of $S$ is $2^{|mathbb N|}=aleph_0$. But my friend told that my answer was wrong.
Please help me where is I am wrong.
elementary-set-theory cardinals
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Why do you think the cardinality of $S$ would be $2^{|mathbb N|}$?
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– Henrik
Dec 8 '18 at 11:18
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Because for any function to defined every point has 2 choices so there are 2^|N|.I thought
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– MathLover
Dec 8 '18 at 11:19
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Note that the set $S = { f$ a function$ : f:mathbb{N}to{1,2}}$ is uncountable. To see why, think about $mathcal{P}(mathbb{N})$ and $f^{-1}(1)$ for $fin S$.
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– Santana Afton
Dec 8 '18 at 12:47
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You could just list down all the functions in your set and see what the answer is.
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– Andrés E. Caicedo
Dec 8 '18 at 14:02
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Let $S={,f,|,fcolon Atomathbb N}$, where $A={1,2}$.
I thought cardinality of $S$ is $2^{|mathbb N|}=aleph_0$. But my friend told that my answer was wrong.
Please help me where is I am wrong.
elementary-set-theory cardinals
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Let $S={,f,|,fcolon Atomathbb N}$, where $A={1,2}$.
I thought cardinality of $S$ is $2^{|mathbb N|}=aleph_0$. But my friend told that my answer was wrong.
Please help me where is I am wrong.
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Why do you think the cardinality of $S$ would be $2^{|mathbb N|}$?
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– Henrik
Dec 8 '18 at 11:18
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Because for any function to defined every point has 2 choices so there are 2^|N|.I thought
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– MathLover
Dec 8 '18 at 11:19
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Note that the set $S = { f$ a function$ : f:mathbb{N}to{1,2}}$ is uncountable. To see why, think about $mathcal{P}(mathbb{N})$ and $f^{-1}(1)$ for $fin S$.
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– Santana Afton
Dec 8 '18 at 12:47
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You could just list down all the functions in your set and see what the answer is.
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– Andrés E. Caicedo
Dec 8 '18 at 14:02
add a comment |
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Why do you think the cardinality of $S$ would be $2^{|mathbb N|}$?
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– Henrik
Dec 8 '18 at 11:18
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Because for any function to defined every point has 2 choices so there are 2^|N|.I thought
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– MathLover
Dec 8 '18 at 11:19
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Note that the set $S = { f$ a function$ : f:mathbb{N}to{1,2}}$ is uncountable. To see why, think about $mathcal{P}(mathbb{N})$ and $f^{-1}(1)$ for $fin S$.
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– Santana Afton
Dec 8 '18 at 12:47
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You could just list down all the functions in your set and see what the answer is.
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– Andrés E. Caicedo
Dec 8 '18 at 14:02
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Why do you think the cardinality of $S$ would be $2^{|mathbb N|}$?
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– Henrik
Dec 8 '18 at 11:18
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Why do you think the cardinality of $S$ would be $2^{|mathbb N|}$?
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– Henrik
Dec 8 '18 at 11:18
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Because for any function to defined every point has 2 choices so there are 2^|N|.I thought
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– MathLover
Dec 8 '18 at 11:19
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Because for any function to defined every point has 2 choices so there are 2^|N|.I thought
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– MathLover
Dec 8 '18 at 11:19
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Note that the set $S = { f$ a function$ : f:mathbb{N}to{1,2}}$ is uncountable. To see why, think about $mathcal{P}(mathbb{N})$ and $f^{-1}(1)$ for $fin S$.
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– Santana Afton
Dec 8 '18 at 12:47
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Note that the set $S = { f$ a function$ : f:mathbb{N}to{1,2}}$ is uncountable. To see why, think about $mathcal{P}(mathbb{N})$ and $f^{-1}(1)$ for $fin S$.
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– Santana Afton
Dec 8 '18 at 12:47
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You could just list down all the functions in your set and see what the answer is.
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– Andrés E. Caicedo
Dec 8 '18 at 14:02
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You could just list down all the functions in your set and see what the answer is.
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– Andrés E. Caicedo
Dec 8 '18 at 14:02
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The cardinality of the set of functions from a set $A$ to a set $B$ is $|B|^{|A|}$.
In particular in your case the size of $S$ is $|mathbb{N}|^2$ (not $2^{|mathbb{N}|}$) which is the size of $mathbb{N}timesmathbb{N}$ (hence countable).
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The cardinality of the set of functions from a set $A$ to a set $B$ is $|B|^{|A|}$.
In particular in your case the size of $S$ is $|mathbb{N}|^2$ (not $2^{|mathbb{N}|}$) which is the size of $mathbb{N}timesmathbb{N}$ (hence countable).
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The cardinality of the set of functions from a set $A$ to a set $B$ is $|B|^{|A|}$.
In particular in your case the size of $S$ is $|mathbb{N}|^2$ (not $2^{|mathbb{N}|}$) which is the size of $mathbb{N}timesmathbb{N}$ (hence countable).
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The cardinality of the set of functions from a set $A$ to a set $B$ is $|B|^{|A|}$.
In particular in your case the size of $S$ is $|mathbb{N}|^2$ (not $2^{|mathbb{N}|}$) which is the size of $mathbb{N}timesmathbb{N}$ (hence countable).
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The cardinality of the set of functions from a set $A$ to a set $B$ is $|B|^{|A|}$.
In particular in your case the size of $S$ is $|mathbb{N}|^2$ (not $2^{|mathbb{N}|}$) which is the size of $mathbb{N}timesmathbb{N}$ (hence countable).
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Why do you think the cardinality of $S$ would be $2^{|mathbb N|}$?
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– Henrik
Dec 8 '18 at 11:18
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Because for any function to defined every point has 2 choices so there are 2^|N|.I thought
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– MathLover
Dec 8 '18 at 11:19
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Note that the set $S = { f$ a function$ : f:mathbb{N}to{1,2}}$ is uncountable. To see why, think about $mathcal{P}(mathbb{N})$ and $f^{-1}(1)$ for $fin S$.
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– Santana Afton
Dec 8 '18 at 12:47
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You could just list down all the functions in your set and see what the answer is.
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– Andrés E. Caicedo
Dec 8 '18 at 14:02