Learning Linear Algebra for AI, Cannot solve system in R3.












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I am just creating random sets of vectors to try and practice solving systems of equations. I thought I had been doing well, but I came up with a set of vectors that keep stumping me. In fact, I've been trying to figure out where I went wrong for almost two hours, yet I still have no clue.



I tried the following:



$$x_1begin{bmatrix}
-1 \
-2 \
-3
end{bmatrix}+x_2begin{bmatrix}
1 \
3 \
5
end{bmatrix}+x_3begin{bmatrix}
4 \
2 \
0
end{bmatrix}
=
begin{bmatrix}
a \
b \
c
end{bmatrix}$$



Every time I try to solve this I end up stuck at a similar place.



Here is one example of what I have tried:



$$begin{eqnarray}
-x_1&+x_2&+4x_3&=a\
-2x_1&+3x_2&+2x_3&=b\
-3x_1&+5x_2&&=c
end{eqnarray}$$



Then for example, I try to eliminate the $x_3$ constant from equations 1 and 2.



$$begin{eqnarray}
-x_1&+x_2&+4x_3&=a\
4x_1&-6x_2&-4x_3&=-2b\
3x_1&-5x_2&&=a-2b
end{eqnarray}$$



Then, I try to eliminate the $x_2$ constant from the new equation and the original equation 3.



$$begin{eqnarray}
3x_1&-5x_2&=a-2b\
-3x_1&+5x_2&=c\
end{eqnarray}$$



but I end up with:



$$0+0=a-2b+c$$



I have tried eliminating different factors, but I cannot figure out what I'm doing wrong.










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    Calculate the determinant of the matrix, to know if it is invertible.
    – Emil
    Nov 20 at 7:10






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    The end of the question seems to be missing.
    – Tobias Kildetoft
    Nov 20 at 7:17










  • It is impossible to figure out where you went wrong if you don't show us you calculation.
    – miracle173
    Nov 20 at 7:21










  • @miracle173 Sorry. I have never used MathJax/LaTex before, I was working on it.
    – smkarber
    Nov 20 at 7:21


















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I am just creating random sets of vectors to try and practice solving systems of equations. I thought I had been doing well, but I came up with a set of vectors that keep stumping me. In fact, I've been trying to figure out where I went wrong for almost two hours, yet I still have no clue.



I tried the following:



$$x_1begin{bmatrix}
-1 \
-2 \
-3
end{bmatrix}+x_2begin{bmatrix}
1 \
3 \
5
end{bmatrix}+x_3begin{bmatrix}
4 \
2 \
0
end{bmatrix}
=
begin{bmatrix}
a \
b \
c
end{bmatrix}$$



Every time I try to solve this I end up stuck at a similar place.



Here is one example of what I have tried:



$$begin{eqnarray}
-x_1&+x_2&+4x_3&=a\
-2x_1&+3x_2&+2x_3&=b\
-3x_1&+5x_2&&=c
end{eqnarray}$$



Then for example, I try to eliminate the $x_3$ constant from equations 1 and 2.



$$begin{eqnarray}
-x_1&+x_2&+4x_3&=a\
4x_1&-6x_2&-4x_3&=-2b\
3x_1&-5x_2&&=a-2b
end{eqnarray}$$



Then, I try to eliminate the $x_2$ constant from the new equation and the original equation 3.



$$begin{eqnarray}
3x_1&-5x_2&=a-2b\
-3x_1&+5x_2&=c\
end{eqnarray}$$



but I end up with:



$$0+0=a-2b+c$$



I have tried eliminating different factors, but I cannot figure out what I'm doing wrong.










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  • 4




    Calculate the determinant of the matrix, to know if it is invertible.
    – Emil
    Nov 20 at 7:10






  • 3




    The end of the question seems to be missing.
    – Tobias Kildetoft
    Nov 20 at 7:17










  • It is impossible to figure out where you went wrong if you don't show us you calculation.
    – miracle173
    Nov 20 at 7:21










  • @miracle173 Sorry. I have never used MathJax/LaTex before, I was working on it.
    – smkarber
    Nov 20 at 7:21
















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I am just creating random sets of vectors to try and practice solving systems of equations. I thought I had been doing well, but I came up with a set of vectors that keep stumping me. In fact, I've been trying to figure out where I went wrong for almost two hours, yet I still have no clue.



I tried the following:



$$x_1begin{bmatrix}
-1 \
-2 \
-3
end{bmatrix}+x_2begin{bmatrix}
1 \
3 \
5
end{bmatrix}+x_3begin{bmatrix}
4 \
2 \
0
end{bmatrix}
=
begin{bmatrix}
a \
b \
c
end{bmatrix}$$



Every time I try to solve this I end up stuck at a similar place.



Here is one example of what I have tried:



$$begin{eqnarray}
-x_1&+x_2&+4x_3&=a\
-2x_1&+3x_2&+2x_3&=b\
-3x_1&+5x_2&&=c
end{eqnarray}$$



Then for example, I try to eliminate the $x_3$ constant from equations 1 and 2.



$$begin{eqnarray}
-x_1&+x_2&+4x_3&=a\
4x_1&-6x_2&-4x_3&=-2b\
3x_1&-5x_2&&=a-2b
end{eqnarray}$$



Then, I try to eliminate the $x_2$ constant from the new equation and the original equation 3.



$$begin{eqnarray}
3x_1&-5x_2&=a-2b\
-3x_1&+5x_2&=c\
end{eqnarray}$$



but I end up with:



$$0+0=a-2b+c$$



I have tried eliminating different factors, but I cannot figure out what I'm doing wrong.










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I am just creating random sets of vectors to try and practice solving systems of equations. I thought I had been doing well, but I came up with a set of vectors that keep stumping me. In fact, I've been trying to figure out where I went wrong for almost two hours, yet I still have no clue.



I tried the following:



$$x_1begin{bmatrix}
-1 \
-2 \
-3
end{bmatrix}+x_2begin{bmatrix}
1 \
3 \
5
end{bmatrix}+x_3begin{bmatrix}
4 \
2 \
0
end{bmatrix}
=
begin{bmatrix}
a \
b \
c
end{bmatrix}$$



Every time I try to solve this I end up stuck at a similar place.



Here is one example of what I have tried:



$$begin{eqnarray}
-x_1&+x_2&+4x_3&=a\
-2x_1&+3x_2&+2x_3&=b\
-3x_1&+5x_2&&=c
end{eqnarray}$$



Then for example, I try to eliminate the $x_3$ constant from equations 1 and 2.



$$begin{eqnarray}
-x_1&+x_2&+4x_3&=a\
4x_1&-6x_2&-4x_3&=-2b\
3x_1&-5x_2&&=a-2b
end{eqnarray}$$



Then, I try to eliminate the $x_2$ constant from the new equation and the original equation 3.



$$begin{eqnarray}
3x_1&-5x_2&=a-2b\
-3x_1&+5x_2&=c\
end{eqnarray}$$



but I end up with:



$$0+0=a-2b+c$$



I have tried eliminating different factors, but I cannot figure out what I'm doing wrong.







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  • 4




    Calculate the determinant of the matrix, to know if it is invertible.
    – Emil
    Nov 20 at 7:10






  • 3




    The end of the question seems to be missing.
    – Tobias Kildetoft
    Nov 20 at 7:17










  • It is impossible to figure out where you went wrong if you don't show us you calculation.
    – miracle173
    Nov 20 at 7:21










  • @miracle173 Sorry. I have never used MathJax/LaTex before, I was working on it.
    – smkarber
    Nov 20 at 7:21
















  • 4




    Calculate the determinant of the matrix, to know if it is invertible.
    – Emil
    Nov 20 at 7:10






  • 3




    The end of the question seems to be missing.
    – Tobias Kildetoft
    Nov 20 at 7:17










  • It is impossible to figure out where you went wrong if you don't show us you calculation.
    – miracle173
    Nov 20 at 7:21










  • @miracle173 Sorry. I have never used MathJax/LaTex before, I was working on it.
    – smkarber
    Nov 20 at 7:21










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Calculate the determinant of the matrix, to know if it is invertible.
– Emil
Nov 20 at 7:10




Calculate the determinant of the matrix, to know if it is invertible.
– Emil
Nov 20 at 7:10




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The end of the question seems to be missing.
– Tobias Kildetoft
Nov 20 at 7:17




The end of the question seems to be missing.
– Tobias Kildetoft
Nov 20 at 7:17












It is impossible to figure out where you went wrong if you don't show us you calculation.
– miracle173
Nov 20 at 7:21




It is impossible to figure out where you went wrong if you don't show us you calculation.
– miracle173
Nov 20 at 7:21












@miracle173 Sorry. I have never used MathJax/LaTex before, I was working on it.
– smkarber
Nov 20 at 7:21






@miracle173 Sorry. I have never used MathJax/LaTex before, I was working on it.
– smkarber
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Not every system has a unique solution. For your system to have a solution, we need $a-2b+c=0$.



If we have $a-2b+c=0$, now we can let $x_1=t$, from $-3x_1+5x_2=c$, we can solve for $x_2$. Now, having $x_1$ and $x_2$, we can use the equation to solve for $x_3$. It always have infinitely many solutions if $a-2b+c=0$.






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    The vectors
    $$
    begin{bmatrix}
    -1 \
    -2 \
    -3
    end{bmatrix},
    begin{bmatrix}
    1 \
    3 \
    5
    end{bmatrix},
    text{ and } begin{bmatrix}
    4 \
    2 \
    0
    end{bmatrix}
    $$

    are linearly dependent. Thus, your linear system either has no solutions or infinitely many solutions. So you won't be able to determine the numbers $x_1, x_2$, and $x_3$ uniquely.



    And it won't be surprising if you discover that there is some condition such as $a - 2b + c = 0$ which must be satisfied in order for a solution to exist. For a solution to exist, the vector $(a,b,c)$ must belong to the span of your three vectors, and the span of the three given vectors is only a 2-dimensional subspace of $mathbb R^3$.






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    • I didn't see that there was a scalar multiple or linear combination in this set of vectors. Could you point it out, please?
      – smkarber
      Nov 20 at 7:51










    • In the linear system that you wrote, you are writing $(a,b,c)$ as a linear combination of the three given vectors: $x_1begin{bmatrix} -1 \ -2 \ -3 end{bmatrix}+x_2begin{bmatrix} 1 \ 3 \ 5 end{bmatrix}+x_3begin{bmatrix} 4 \ 2 \ 0 end{bmatrix} = begin{bmatrix} a \ b \ c end{bmatrix}$. That is a nice way to visualize a linear system of equations.
      – littleO
      Nov 20 at 8:11





















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    When you are trying to solve a linear system with the determinant of coefficient equal zero then you either have no solution or you have infinitely many solutions.



    In your case the determinant of $$ det begin {bmatrix} -1&1&4\-2&3&2\-3&5&0end {bmatrix}=0$$



    Thus depending on values of $a,b,c$ you either get infinitely many solutions or no solutions.






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      Guide:



      Not every system has a unique solution. For your system to have a solution, we need $a-2b+c=0$.



      If we have $a-2b+c=0$, now we can let $x_1=t$, from $-3x_1+5x_2=c$, we can solve for $x_2$. Now, having $x_1$ and $x_2$, we can use the equation to solve for $x_3$. It always have infinitely many solutions if $a-2b+c=0$.






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        Guide:



        Not every system has a unique solution. For your system to have a solution, we need $a-2b+c=0$.



        If we have $a-2b+c=0$, now we can let $x_1=t$, from $-3x_1+5x_2=c$, we can solve for $x_2$. Now, having $x_1$ and $x_2$, we can use the equation to solve for $x_3$. It always have infinitely many solutions if $a-2b+c=0$.






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          Guide:



          Not every system has a unique solution. For your system to have a solution, we need $a-2b+c=0$.



          If we have $a-2b+c=0$, now we can let $x_1=t$, from $-3x_1+5x_2=c$, we can solve for $x_2$. Now, having $x_1$ and $x_2$, we can use the equation to solve for $x_3$. It always have infinitely many solutions if $a-2b+c=0$.






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          Guide:



          Not every system has a unique solution. For your system to have a solution, we need $a-2b+c=0$.



          If we have $a-2b+c=0$, now we can let $x_1=t$, from $-3x_1+5x_2=c$, we can solve for $x_2$. Now, having $x_1$ and $x_2$, we can use the equation to solve for $x_3$. It always have infinitely many solutions if $a-2b+c=0$.







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              The vectors
              $$
              begin{bmatrix}
              -1 \
              -2 \
              -3
              end{bmatrix},
              begin{bmatrix}
              1 \
              3 \
              5
              end{bmatrix},
              text{ and } begin{bmatrix}
              4 \
              2 \
              0
              end{bmatrix}
              $$

              are linearly dependent. Thus, your linear system either has no solutions or infinitely many solutions. So you won't be able to determine the numbers $x_1, x_2$, and $x_3$ uniquely.



              And it won't be surprising if you discover that there is some condition such as $a - 2b + c = 0$ which must be satisfied in order for a solution to exist. For a solution to exist, the vector $(a,b,c)$ must belong to the span of your three vectors, and the span of the three given vectors is only a 2-dimensional subspace of $mathbb R^3$.






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              • I didn't see that there was a scalar multiple or linear combination in this set of vectors. Could you point it out, please?
                – smkarber
                Nov 20 at 7:51










              • In the linear system that you wrote, you are writing $(a,b,c)$ as a linear combination of the three given vectors: $x_1begin{bmatrix} -1 \ -2 \ -3 end{bmatrix}+x_2begin{bmatrix} 1 \ 3 \ 5 end{bmatrix}+x_3begin{bmatrix} 4 \ 2 \ 0 end{bmatrix} = begin{bmatrix} a \ b \ c end{bmatrix}$. That is a nice way to visualize a linear system of equations.
                – littleO
                Nov 20 at 8:11


















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              The vectors
              $$
              begin{bmatrix}
              -1 \
              -2 \
              -3
              end{bmatrix},
              begin{bmatrix}
              1 \
              3 \
              5
              end{bmatrix},
              text{ and } begin{bmatrix}
              4 \
              2 \
              0
              end{bmatrix}
              $$

              are linearly dependent. Thus, your linear system either has no solutions or infinitely many solutions. So you won't be able to determine the numbers $x_1, x_2$, and $x_3$ uniquely.



              And it won't be surprising if you discover that there is some condition such as $a - 2b + c = 0$ which must be satisfied in order for a solution to exist. For a solution to exist, the vector $(a,b,c)$ must belong to the span of your three vectors, and the span of the three given vectors is only a 2-dimensional subspace of $mathbb R^3$.






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              • I didn't see that there was a scalar multiple or linear combination in this set of vectors. Could you point it out, please?
                – smkarber
                Nov 20 at 7:51










              • In the linear system that you wrote, you are writing $(a,b,c)$ as a linear combination of the three given vectors: $x_1begin{bmatrix} -1 \ -2 \ -3 end{bmatrix}+x_2begin{bmatrix} 1 \ 3 \ 5 end{bmatrix}+x_3begin{bmatrix} 4 \ 2 \ 0 end{bmatrix} = begin{bmatrix} a \ b \ c end{bmatrix}$. That is a nice way to visualize a linear system of equations.
                – littleO
                Nov 20 at 8:11
















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              The vectors
              $$
              begin{bmatrix}
              -1 \
              -2 \
              -3
              end{bmatrix},
              begin{bmatrix}
              1 \
              3 \
              5
              end{bmatrix},
              text{ and } begin{bmatrix}
              4 \
              2 \
              0
              end{bmatrix}
              $$

              are linearly dependent. Thus, your linear system either has no solutions or infinitely many solutions. So you won't be able to determine the numbers $x_1, x_2$, and $x_3$ uniquely.



              And it won't be surprising if you discover that there is some condition such as $a - 2b + c = 0$ which must be satisfied in order for a solution to exist. For a solution to exist, the vector $(a,b,c)$ must belong to the span of your three vectors, and the span of the three given vectors is only a 2-dimensional subspace of $mathbb R^3$.






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              The vectors
              $$
              begin{bmatrix}
              -1 \
              -2 \
              -3
              end{bmatrix},
              begin{bmatrix}
              1 \
              3 \
              5
              end{bmatrix},
              text{ and } begin{bmatrix}
              4 \
              2 \
              0
              end{bmatrix}
              $$

              are linearly dependent. Thus, your linear system either has no solutions or infinitely many solutions. So you won't be able to determine the numbers $x_1, x_2$, and $x_3$ uniquely.



              And it won't be surprising if you discover that there is some condition such as $a - 2b + c = 0$ which must be satisfied in order for a solution to exist. For a solution to exist, the vector $(a,b,c)$ must belong to the span of your three vectors, and the span of the three given vectors is only a 2-dimensional subspace of $mathbb R^3$.







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              • I didn't see that there was a scalar multiple or linear combination in this set of vectors. Could you point it out, please?
                – smkarber
                Nov 20 at 7:51










              • In the linear system that you wrote, you are writing $(a,b,c)$ as a linear combination of the three given vectors: $x_1begin{bmatrix} -1 \ -2 \ -3 end{bmatrix}+x_2begin{bmatrix} 1 \ 3 \ 5 end{bmatrix}+x_3begin{bmatrix} 4 \ 2 \ 0 end{bmatrix} = begin{bmatrix} a \ b \ c end{bmatrix}$. That is a nice way to visualize a linear system of equations.
                – littleO
                Nov 20 at 8:11




















              • I didn't see that there was a scalar multiple or linear combination in this set of vectors. Could you point it out, please?
                – smkarber
                Nov 20 at 7:51










              • In the linear system that you wrote, you are writing $(a,b,c)$ as a linear combination of the three given vectors: $x_1begin{bmatrix} -1 \ -2 \ -3 end{bmatrix}+x_2begin{bmatrix} 1 \ 3 \ 5 end{bmatrix}+x_3begin{bmatrix} 4 \ 2 \ 0 end{bmatrix} = begin{bmatrix} a \ b \ c end{bmatrix}$. That is a nice way to visualize a linear system of equations.
                – littleO
                Nov 20 at 8:11


















              I didn't see that there was a scalar multiple or linear combination in this set of vectors. Could you point it out, please?
              – smkarber
              Nov 20 at 7:51




              I didn't see that there was a scalar multiple or linear combination in this set of vectors. Could you point it out, please?
              – smkarber
              Nov 20 at 7:51












              In the linear system that you wrote, you are writing $(a,b,c)$ as a linear combination of the three given vectors: $x_1begin{bmatrix} -1 \ -2 \ -3 end{bmatrix}+x_2begin{bmatrix} 1 \ 3 \ 5 end{bmatrix}+x_3begin{bmatrix} 4 \ 2 \ 0 end{bmatrix} = begin{bmatrix} a \ b \ c end{bmatrix}$. That is a nice way to visualize a linear system of equations.
              – littleO
              Nov 20 at 8:11






              In the linear system that you wrote, you are writing $(a,b,c)$ as a linear combination of the three given vectors: $x_1begin{bmatrix} -1 \ -2 \ -3 end{bmatrix}+x_2begin{bmatrix} 1 \ 3 \ 5 end{bmatrix}+x_3begin{bmatrix} 4 \ 2 \ 0 end{bmatrix} = begin{bmatrix} a \ b \ c end{bmatrix}$. That is a nice way to visualize a linear system of equations.
              – littleO
              Nov 20 at 8:11













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              When you are trying to solve a linear system with the determinant of coefficient equal zero then you either have no solution or you have infinitely many solutions.



              In your case the determinant of $$ det begin {bmatrix} -1&1&4\-2&3&2\-3&5&0end {bmatrix}=0$$



              Thus depending on values of $a,b,c$ you either get infinitely many solutions or no solutions.






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                When you are trying to solve a linear system with the determinant of coefficient equal zero then you either have no solution or you have infinitely many solutions.



                In your case the determinant of $$ det begin {bmatrix} -1&1&4\-2&3&2\-3&5&0end {bmatrix}=0$$



                Thus depending on values of $a,b,c$ you either get infinitely many solutions or no solutions.






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                  When you are trying to solve a linear system with the determinant of coefficient equal zero then you either have no solution or you have infinitely many solutions.



                  In your case the determinant of $$ det begin {bmatrix} -1&1&4\-2&3&2\-3&5&0end {bmatrix}=0$$



                  Thus depending on values of $a,b,c$ you either get infinitely many solutions or no solutions.






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                  When you are trying to solve a linear system with the determinant of coefficient equal zero then you either have no solution or you have infinitely many solutions.



                  In your case the determinant of $$ det begin {bmatrix} -1&1&4\-2&3&2\-3&5&0end {bmatrix}=0$$



                  Thus depending on values of $a,b,c$ you either get infinitely many solutions or no solutions.







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