Given two equations $(xax)^3 = bx$ and $x^2a = (xa)^{-1}$ in a nonabelian group, solve for $x$.
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This is for a basic non-commutative group.
My steps:
$(xax)^3 = bx$
$xaxxaxxax = bx$
$xax^2ax^2ax = bx$
$xax^2ax^2a = b$
$x^2a = (xax^2a)^{-1}b$
Now, substituting $x^2a$ into the second equation:
$(xax^2a)^{-1}b = (xa)^{-1}$
$b = (xax^2a)(xa)^{-1} $
$b = (xax^2a)(a^{-1}x^{-1})$
$b = xax$
Now back to the first equation:
$b^3 = bx$
$b^2 = x$
Apparently, this is not the correct answer according to my answer sheet.
Am I making a mistake somewhere?
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This is for a basic non-commutative group.
My steps:
$(xax)^3 = bx$
$xaxxaxxax = bx$
$xax^2ax^2ax = bx$
$xax^2ax^2a = b$
$x^2a = (xax^2a)^{-1}b$
Now, substituting $x^2a$ into the second equation:
$(xax^2a)^{-1}b = (xa)^{-1}$
$b = (xax^2a)(xa)^{-1} $
$b = (xax^2a)(a^{-1}x^{-1})$
$b = xax$
Now back to the first equation:
$b^3 = bx$
$b^2 = x$
Apparently, this is not the correct answer according to my answer sheet.
Am I making a mistake somewhere?
abstract-algebra group-theory
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– Shaun
Dec 8 '18 at 11:26
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Your solution seems okay to me.
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– Shaun
Dec 8 '18 at 11:33
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Also, again, please edit the title.
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– Shaun
Dec 8 '18 at 11:35
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Answer sheet says $(ab)^{-1} = x$
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– David Davidson
Dec 8 '18 at 11:36
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I think the answer sheet might be wrong. I've checked your solution several times; as I said, it seems okay to me.
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This is for a basic non-commutative group.
My steps:
$(xax)^3 = bx$
$xaxxaxxax = bx$
$xax^2ax^2ax = bx$
$xax^2ax^2a = b$
$x^2a = (xax^2a)^{-1}b$
Now, substituting $x^2a$ into the second equation:
$(xax^2a)^{-1}b = (xa)^{-1}$
$b = (xax^2a)(xa)^{-1} $
$b = (xax^2a)(a^{-1}x^{-1})$
$b = xax$
Now back to the first equation:
$b^3 = bx$
$b^2 = x$
Apparently, this is not the correct answer according to my answer sheet.
Am I making a mistake somewhere?
abstract-algebra group-theory
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This is for a basic non-commutative group.
My steps:
$(xax)^3 = bx$
$xaxxaxxax = bx$
$xax^2ax^2ax = bx$
$xax^2ax^2a = b$
$x^2a = (xax^2a)^{-1}b$
Now, substituting $x^2a$ into the second equation:
$(xax^2a)^{-1}b = (xa)^{-1}$
$b = (xax^2a)(xa)^{-1} $
$b = (xax^2a)(a^{-1}x^{-1})$
$b = xax$
Now back to the first equation:
$b^3 = bx$
$b^2 = x$
Apparently, this is not the correct answer according to my answer sheet.
Am I making a mistake somewhere?
abstract-algebra group-theory
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asked Dec 8 '18 at 11:25
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– Shaun
Dec 8 '18 at 11:26
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Your solution seems okay to me.
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– Shaun
Dec 8 '18 at 11:33
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Also, again, please edit the title.
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– Shaun
Dec 8 '18 at 11:35
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Answer sheet says $(ab)^{-1} = x$
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– David Davidson
Dec 8 '18 at 11:36
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I think the answer sheet might be wrong. I've checked your solution several times; as I said, it seems okay to me.
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– Shaun
Dec 8 '18 at 11:52
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– Shaun
Dec 8 '18 at 11:26
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Your solution seems okay to me.
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– Shaun
Dec 8 '18 at 11:33
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Also, again, please edit the title.
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– Shaun
Dec 8 '18 at 11:35
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Answer sheet says $(ab)^{-1} = x$
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– David Davidson
Dec 8 '18 at 11:36
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I think the answer sheet might be wrong. I've checked your solution several times; as I said, it seems okay to me.
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– Shaun
Dec 8 '18 at 11:52
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Please try to make the titles of your questions more informative. For example, Why does $a<b$ imply $a+c<b+c$? is much more useful for other users than A question about inequality. From How can I ask a good question?: Make your title as descriptive as possible. In many cases one can actually phrase the title as the question, at least in such a way so as to be comprehensible to an expert reader. You can find more tips for choosing a good title here.
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– Shaun
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– Shaun
Dec 8 '18 at 11:26
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Your solution seems okay to me.
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– Shaun
Dec 8 '18 at 11:33
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Your solution seems okay to me.
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– Shaun
Dec 8 '18 at 11:33
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Also, again, please edit the title.
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– Shaun
Dec 8 '18 at 11:35
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Also, again, please edit the title.
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– Shaun
Dec 8 '18 at 11:35
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Answer sheet says $(ab)^{-1} = x$
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– David Davidson
Dec 8 '18 at 11:36
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Answer sheet says $(ab)^{-1} = x$
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– David Davidson
Dec 8 '18 at 11:36
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I think the answer sheet might be wrong. I've checked your solution several times; as I said, it seems okay to me.
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– Shaun
Dec 8 '18 at 11:52
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I think the answer sheet might be wrong. I've checked your solution several times; as I said, it seems okay to me.
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You have $xaxxaxxax=bx$, so
$$
xa(x^2a)(x^2a)=b
$$
Now $a(x^2a)=a(xa)^{-1}=aa^{-1}x^{-1}=x^{-1}$ and therefore
$$
b=xx^{-1}a^{-1}x^{-1}=a^{-1}x^{-1}
$$
whence $x^{-1}=ab$ and $x=(ab)^{-1}$.
Can we say that $b^2=(ab)^{-1}$? This is equivalent to $b^3=a^{-1}$ or, as you proved that $b^3=bx$, to $bx=a^{-1}$, which is true.
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The solution in the answer sheet is equivalent; your solution is fine.
Marking your work line by line . . .
My steps:
$(xax)^3 = bx$ $color{red}{quadcheckmarktext{Def}}$
$xaxxaxxax = bx$ $color{red}{quadcheckmarktext{Def}}$
$xax^2ax^2ax = bx$$color{red}{quadcheckmarktext{Rewrite}}$
$xax^2ax^2a = b$ $color{red}{quadcheckmark (times x^{-1})}$
$x^2a = (xax^2a)^{-1}b$ $color{red}{quadcheckmark (times (xax^2a)^{-1})}$
Now, substituting $x^2a$ into the second equation:
$(xax^2a)^{-1}b = (xa)^{-1}$ $color{red}{quadcheckmark (text{Sub})}$
$b = (xax^2a)(xa)^{-1} $ $color{red}{quadcheckmark (times (xax^2a))}$
$b = (xax^2a)(a^{-1}x^{-1})$ $color{red}{quadcheckmark (text{Use of 'inverse of product' lemma})}$
$b = xax$ $color{red}{quadcheckmark (text{Use of inverses})}$
Now back to the first equation:
$b^3 = bx$ $color{red}{quadcheckmark (text{Sub})}$
$b^2 = x$ $color{red}{quadcheckmark (times b^{-1})}$
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Is it possible that both answers are correct? That $(ab)^{-1} = b^2$?
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– David Davidson
Dec 8 '18 at 11:58
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Yes, @DavidDavidson. I don't see how though. I've edited the question accordingly. I am going to improve this answer further in a short while.
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– Shaun
Dec 8 '18 at 12:00
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@DavidDavidson Is that clear now?
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– Shaun
Dec 8 '18 at 12:09
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The steps from the answer sheet seem to be: $(xax)^3 = bx$ | $xax^2ax^2ax = bx$ | $xa(xa)^{-1}(xa)^{-1}x = bx$ | $xaa^{-1}x^{-1}a^{-1}x^{-1}x = bx$ | $a^{-1}x^{-1}=b$ | $b^{-1}a^{-1} = x$ | $(ab)^{-1} = x$ |
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– David Davidson
Dec 8 '18 at 12:09
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Then your answer sheet is correct too. You're both right, @DavidDavidson.
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- The following is solution in the image attached from the link.
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Form the above solution x = b-1a-1. substituting this in second equation given. a = b-3. which the solution b^2 can be written in infinite ways if you include a like b3ab2, b6a2b2 etc etc.
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(xa)−1 is not equal to (a−1x−1). a need not be invertible.
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– Raghu Veer
Dec 8 '18 at 12:44
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No, the solution is correct.
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– Shaun
Dec 8 '18 at 12:46
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Here $a$ is an element of the group. It is invertible by definition.
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– Shaun
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Yeah, right. Thanks for the explanation
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– Raghu Veer
Dec 8 '18 at 12:48
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It is well known that for any $g, h$ in any group $G$, we have $(gh)^{-1}=h^{-1}g^{-1}$.
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You have $xaxxaxxax=bx$, so
$$
xa(x^2a)(x^2a)=b
$$
Now $a(x^2a)=a(xa)^{-1}=aa^{-1}x^{-1}=x^{-1}$ and therefore
$$
b=xx^{-1}a^{-1}x^{-1}=a^{-1}x^{-1}
$$
whence $x^{-1}=ab$ and $x=(ab)^{-1}$.
Can we say that $b^2=(ab)^{-1}$? This is equivalent to $b^3=a^{-1}$ or, as you proved that $b^3=bx$, to $bx=a^{-1}$, which is true.
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You have $xaxxaxxax=bx$, so
$$
xa(x^2a)(x^2a)=b
$$
Now $a(x^2a)=a(xa)^{-1}=aa^{-1}x^{-1}=x^{-1}$ and therefore
$$
b=xx^{-1}a^{-1}x^{-1}=a^{-1}x^{-1}
$$
whence $x^{-1}=ab$ and $x=(ab)^{-1}$.
Can we say that $b^2=(ab)^{-1}$? This is equivalent to $b^3=a^{-1}$ or, as you proved that $b^3=bx$, to $bx=a^{-1}$, which is true.
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You have $xaxxaxxax=bx$, so
$$
xa(x^2a)(x^2a)=b
$$
Now $a(x^2a)=a(xa)^{-1}=aa^{-1}x^{-1}=x^{-1}$ and therefore
$$
b=xx^{-1}a^{-1}x^{-1}=a^{-1}x^{-1}
$$
whence $x^{-1}=ab$ and $x=(ab)^{-1}$.
Can we say that $b^2=(ab)^{-1}$? This is equivalent to $b^3=a^{-1}$ or, as you proved that $b^3=bx$, to $bx=a^{-1}$, which is true.
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You have $xaxxaxxax=bx$, so
$$
xa(x^2a)(x^2a)=b
$$
Now $a(x^2a)=a(xa)^{-1}=aa^{-1}x^{-1}=x^{-1}$ and therefore
$$
b=xx^{-1}a^{-1}x^{-1}=a^{-1}x^{-1}
$$
whence $x^{-1}=ab$ and $x=(ab)^{-1}$.
Can we say that $b^2=(ab)^{-1}$? This is equivalent to $b^3=a^{-1}$ or, as you proved that $b^3=bx$, to $bx=a^{-1}$, which is true.
answered Dec 8 '18 at 13:39
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The solution in the answer sheet is equivalent; your solution is fine.
Marking your work line by line . . .
My steps:
$(xax)^3 = bx$ $color{red}{quadcheckmarktext{Def}}$
$xaxxaxxax = bx$ $color{red}{quadcheckmarktext{Def}}$
$xax^2ax^2ax = bx$$color{red}{quadcheckmarktext{Rewrite}}$
$xax^2ax^2a = b$ $color{red}{quadcheckmark (times x^{-1})}$
$x^2a = (xax^2a)^{-1}b$ $color{red}{quadcheckmark (times (xax^2a)^{-1})}$
Now, substituting $x^2a$ into the second equation:
$(xax^2a)^{-1}b = (xa)^{-1}$ $color{red}{quadcheckmark (text{Sub})}$
$b = (xax^2a)(xa)^{-1} $ $color{red}{quadcheckmark (times (xax^2a))}$
$b = (xax^2a)(a^{-1}x^{-1})$ $color{red}{quadcheckmark (text{Use of 'inverse of product' lemma})}$
$b = xax$ $color{red}{quadcheckmark (text{Use of inverses})}$
Now back to the first equation:
$b^3 = bx$ $color{red}{quadcheckmark (text{Sub})}$
$b^2 = x$ $color{red}{quadcheckmark (times b^{-1})}$
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Is it possible that both answers are correct? That $(ab)^{-1} = b^2$?
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– David Davidson
Dec 8 '18 at 11:58
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Yes, @DavidDavidson. I don't see how though. I've edited the question accordingly. I am going to improve this answer further in a short while.
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– Shaun
Dec 8 '18 at 12:00
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@DavidDavidson Is that clear now?
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– Shaun
Dec 8 '18 at 12:09
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The steps from the answer sheet seem to be: $(xax)^3 = bx$ | $xax^2ax^2ax = bx$ | $xa(xa)^{-1}(xa)^{-1}x = bx$ | $xaa^{-1}x^{-1}a^{-1}x^{-1}x = bx$ | $a^{-1}x^{-1}=b$ | $b^{-1}a^{-1} = x$ | $(ab)^{-1} = x$ |
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– David Davidson
Dec 8 '18 at 12:09
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Then your answer sheet is correct too. You're both right, @DavidDavidson.
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– Shaun
Dec 8 '18 at 12:23
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The solution in the answer sheet is equivalent; your solution is fine.
Marking your work line by line . . .
My steps:
$(xax)^3 = bx$ $color{red}{quadcheckmarktext{Def}}$
$xaxxaxxax = bx$ $color{red}{quadcheckmarktext{Def}}$
$xax^2ax^2ax = bx$$color{red}{quadcheckmarktext{Rewrite}}$
$xax^2ax^2a = b$ $color{red}{quadcheckmark (times x^{-1})}$
$x^2a = (xax^2a)^{-1}b$ $color{red}{quadcheckmark (times (xax^2a)^{-1})}$
Now, substituting $x^2a$ into the second equation:
$(xax^2a)^{-1}b = (xa)^{-1}$ $color{red}{quadcheckmark (text{Sub})}$
$b = (xax^2a)(xa)^{-1} $ $color{red}{quadcheckmark (times (xax^2a))}$
$b = (xax^2a)(a^{-1}x^{-1})$ $color{red}{quadcheckmark (text{Use of 'inverse of product' lemma})}$
$b = xax$ $color{red}{quadcheckmark (text{Use of inverses})}$
Now back to the first equation:
$b^3 = bx$ $color{red}{quadcheckmark (text{Sub})}$
$b^2 = x$ $color{red}{quadcheckmark (times b^{-1})}$
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Is it possible that both answers are correct? That $(ab)^{-1} = b^2$?
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– David Davidson
Dec 8 '18 at 11:58
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Yes, @DavidDavidson. I don't see how though. I've edited the question accordingly. I am going to improve this answer further in a short while.
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– Shaun
Dec 8 '18 at 12:00
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@DavidDavidson Is that clear now?
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– Shaun
Dec 8 '18 at 12:09
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The steps from the answer sheet seem to be: $(xax)^3 = bx$ | $xax^2ax^2ax = bx$ | $xa(xa)^{-1}(xa)^{-1}x = bx$ | $xaa^{-1}x^{-1}a^{-1}x^{-1}x = bx$ | $a^{-1}x^{-1}=b$ | $b^{-1}a^{-1} = x$ | $(ab)^{-1} = x$ |
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– David Davidson
Dec 8 '18 at 12:09
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Then your answer sheet is correct too. You're both right, @DavidDavidson.
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– Shaun
Dec 8 '18 at 12:23
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The solution in the answer sheet is equivalent; your solution is fine.
Marking your work line by line . . .
My steps:
$(xax)^3 = bx$ $color{red}{quadcheckmarktext{Def}}$
$xaxxaxxax = bx$ $color{red}{quadcheckmarktext{Def}}$
$xax^2ax^2ax = bx$$color{red}{quadcheckmarktext{Rewrite}}$
$xax^2ax^2a = b$ $color{red}{quadcheckmark (times x^{-1})}$
$x^2a = (xax^2a)^{-1}b$ $color{red}{quadcheckmark (times (xax^2a)^{-1})}$
Now, substituting $x^2a$ into the second equation:
$(xax^2a)^{-1}b = (xa)^{-1}$ $color{red}{quadcheckmark (text{Sub})}$
$b = (xax^2a)(xa)^{-1} $ $color{red}{quadcheckmark (times (xax^2a))}$
$b = (xax^2a)(a^{-1}x^{-1})$ $color{red}{quadcheckmark (text{Use of 'inverse of product' lemma})}$
$b = xax$ $color{red}{quadcheckmark (text{Use of inverses})}$
Now back to the first equation:
$b^3 = bx$ $color{red}{quadcheckmark (text{Sub})}$
$b^2 = x$ $color{red}{quadcheckmark (times b^{-1})}$
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The solution in the answer sheet is equivalent; your solution is fine.
Marking your work line by line . . .
My steps:
$(xax)^3 = bx$ $color{red}{quadcheckmarktext{Def}}$
$xaxxaxxax = bx$ $color{red}{quadcheckmarktext{Def}}$
$xax^2ax^2ax = bx$$color{red}{quadcheckmarktext{Rewrite}}$
$xax^2ax^2a = b$ $color{red}{quadcheckmark (times x^{-1})}$
$x^2a = (xax^2a)^{-1}b$ $color{red}{quadcheckmark (times (xax^2a)^{-1})}$
Now, substituting $x^2a$ into the second equation:
$(xax^2a)^{-1}b = (xa)^{-1}$ $color{red}{quadcheckmark (text{Sub})}$
$b = (xax^2a)(xa)^{-1} $ $color{red}{quadcheckmark (times (xax^2a))}$
$b = (xax^2a)(a^{-1}x^{-1})$ $color{red}{quadcheckmark (text{Use of 'inverse of product' lemma})}$
$b = xax$ $color{red}{quadcheckmark (text{Use of inverses})}$
Now back to the first equation:
$b^3 = bx$ $color{red}{quadcheckmark (text{Sub})}$
$b^2 = x$ $color{red}{quadcheckmark (times b^{-1})}$
edited Dec 9 '18 at 2:54
answered Dec 8 '18 at 11:54
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Is it possible that both answers are correct? That $(ab)^{-1} = b^2$?
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– David Davidson
Dec 8 '18 at 11:58
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Yes, @DavidDavidson. I don't see how though. I've edited the question accordingly. I am going to improve this answer further in a short while.
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– Shaun
Dec 8 '18 at 12:00
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@DavidDavidson Is that clear now?
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– Shaun
Dec 8 '18 at 12:09
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The steps from the answer sheet seem to be: $(xax)^3 = bx$ | $xax^2ax^2ax = bx$ | $xa(xa)^{-1}(xa)^{-1}x = bx$ | $xaa^{-1}x^{-1}a^{-1}x^{-1}x = bx$ | $a^{-1}x^{-1}=b$ | $b^{-1}a^{-1} = x$ | $(ab)^{-1} = x$ |
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– David Davidson
Dec 8 '18 at 12:09
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Then your answer sheet is correct too. You're both right, @DavidDavidson.
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– Shaun
Dec 8 '18 at 12:23
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Is it possible that both answers are correct? That $(ab)^{-1} = b^2$?
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– David Davidson
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Yes, @DavidDavidson. I don't see how though. I've edited the question accordingly. I am going to improve this answer further in a short while.
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– Shaun
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@DavidDavidson Is that clear now?
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The steps from the answer sheet seem to be: $(xax)^3 = bx$ | $xax^2ax^2ax = bx$ | $xa(xa)^{-1}(xa)^{-1}x = bx$ | $xaa^{-1}x^{-1}a^{-1}x^{-1}x = bx$ | $a^{-1}x^{-1}=b$ | $b^{-1}a^{-1} = x$ | $(ab)^{-1} = x$ |
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– David Davidson
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Then your answer sheet is correct too. You're both right, @DavidDavidson.
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– Shaun
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Is it possible that both answers are correct? That $(ab)^{-1} = b^2$?
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– David Davidson
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Is it possible that both answers are correct? That $(ab)^{-1} = b^2$?
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– David Davidson
Dec 8 '18 at 11:58
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Yes, @DavidDavidson. I don't see how though. I've edited the question accordingly. I am going to improve this answer further in a short while.
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– Shaun
Dec 8 '18 at 12:00
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Yes, @DavidDavidson. I don't see how though. I've edited the question accordingly. I am going to improve this answer further in a short while.
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– Shaun
Dec 8 '18 at 12:00
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@DavidDavidson Is that clear now?
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– Shaun
Dec 8 '18 at 12:09
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@DavidDavidson Is that clear now?
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– Shaun
Dec 8 '18 at 12:09
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The steps from the answer sheet seem to be: $(xax)^3 = bx$ | $xax^2ax^2ax = bx$ | $xa(xa)^{-1}(xa)^{-1}x = bx$ | $xaa^{-1}x^{-1}a^{-1}x^{-1}x = bx$ | $a^{-1}x^{-1}=b$ | $b^{-1}a^{-1} = x$ | $(ab)^{-1} = x$ |
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– David Davidson
Dec 8 '18 at 12:09
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The steps from the answer sheet seem to be: $(xax)^3 = bx$ | $xax^2ax^2ax = bx$ | $xa(xa)^{-1}(xa)^{-1}x = bx$ | $xaa^{-1}x^{-1}a^{-1}x^{-1}x = bx$ | $a^{-1}x^{-1}=b$ | $b^{-1}a^{-1} = x$ | $(ab)^{-1} = x$ |
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– David Davidson
Dec 8 '18 at 12:09
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Then your answer sheet is correct too. You're both right, @DavidDavidson.
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– Shaun
Dec 8 '18 at 12:23
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Then your answer sheet is correct too. You're both right, @DavidDavidson.
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Dec 8 '18 at 12:23
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- The following is solution in the image attached from the link.
solution Image on paper
Form the above solution x = b-1a-1. substituting this in second equation given. a = b-3. which the solution b^2 can be written in infinite ways if you include a like b3ab2, b6a2b2 etc etc.
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(xa)−1 is not equal to (a−1x−1). a need not be invertible.
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– Raghu Veer
Dec 8 '18 at 12:44
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No, the solution is correct.
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– Shaun
Dec 8 '18 at 12:46
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Here $a$ is an element of the group. It is invertible by definition.
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– Shaun
Dec 8 '18 at 12:47
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Yeah, right. Thanks for the explanation
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– Raghu Veer
Dec 8 '18 at 12:48
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It is well known that for any $g, h$ in any group $G$, we have $(gh)^{-1}=h^{-1}g^{-1}$.
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- The following is solution in the image attached from the link.
solution Image on paper
Form the above solution x = b-1a-1. substituting this in second equation given. a = b-3. which the solution b^2 can be written in infinite ways if you include a like b3ab2, b6a2b2 etc etc.
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(xa)−1 is not equal to (a−1x−1). a need not be invertible.
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– Raghu Veer
Dec 8 '18 at 12:44
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No, the solution is correct.
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– Shaun
Dec 8 '18 at 12:46
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Here $a$ is an element of the group. It is invertible by definition.
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– Shaun
Dec 8 '18 at 12:47
1
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Yeah, right. Thanks for the explanation
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– Raghu Veer
Dec 8 '18 at 12:48
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It is well known that for any $g, h$ in any group $G$, we have $(gh)^{-1}=h^{-1}g^{-1}$.
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– Shaun
Dec 8 '18 at 12:49
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show 3 more comments
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- The following is solution in the image attached from the link.
solution Image on paper
Form the above solution x = b-1a-1. substituting this in second equation given. a = b-3. which the solution b^2 can be written in infinite ways if you include a like b3ab2, b6a2b2 etc etc.
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- The following is solution in the image attached from the link.
solution Image on paper
Form the above solution x = b-1a-1. substituting this in second equation given. a = b-3. which the solution b^2 can be written in infinite ways if you include a like b3ab2, b6a2b2 etc etc.
edited Dec 8 '18 at 13:00
answered Dec 8 '18 at 12:35
Raghu VeerRaghu Veer
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(xa)−1 is not equal to (a−1x−1). a need not be invertible.
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– Raghu Veer
Dec 8 '18 at 12:44
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No, the solution is correct.
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– Shaun
Dec 8 '18 at 12:46
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Here $a$ is an element of the group. It is invertible by definition.
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– Shaun
Dec 8 '18 at 12:47
1
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Yeah, right. Thanks for the explanation
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– Raghu Veer
Dec 8 '18 at 12:48
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It is well known that for any $g, h$ in any group $G$, we have $(gh)^{-1}=h^{-1}g^{-1}$.
$endgroup$
– Shaun
Dec 8 '18 at 12:49
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show 3 more comments
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(xa)−1 is not equal to (a−1x−1). a need not be invertible.
$endgroup$
– Raghu Veer
Dec 8 '18 at 12:44
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No, the solution is correct.
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– Shaun
Dec 8 '18 at 12:46
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Here $a$ is an element of the group. It is invertible by definition.
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– Shaun
Dec 8 '18 at 12:47
1
$begingroup$
Yeah, right. Thanks for the explanation
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– Raghu Veer
Dec 8 '18 at 12:48
$begingroup$
It is well known that for any $g, h$ in any group $G$, we have $(gh)^{-1}=h^{-1}g^{-1}$.
$endgroup$
– Shaun
Dec 8 '18 at 12:49
$begingroup$
(xa)−1 is not equal to (a−1x−1). a need not be invertible.
$endgroup$
– Raghu Veer
Dec 8 '18 at 12:44
$begingroup$
(xa)−1 is not equal to (a−1x−1). a need not be invertible.
$endgroup$
– Raghu Veer
Dec 8 '18 at 12:44
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No, the solution is correct.
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– Shaun
Dec 8 '18 at 12:46
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No, the solution is correct.
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– Shaun
Dec 8 '18 at 12:46
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Here $a$ is an element of the group. It is invertible by definition.
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– Shaun
Dec 8 '18 at 12:47
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Here $a$ is an element of the group. It is invertible by definition.
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– Shaun
Dec 8 '18 at 12:47
1
1
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Yeah, right. Thanks for the explanation
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– Raghu Veer
Dec 8 '18 at 12:48
$begingroup$
Yeah, right. Thanks for the explanation
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– Raghu Veer
Dec 8 '18 at 12:48
$begingroup$
It is well known that for any $g, h$ in any group $G$, we have $(gh)^{-1}=h^{-1}g^{-1}$.
$endgroup$
– Shaun
Dec 8 '18 at 12:49
$begingroup$
It is well known that for any $g, h$ in any group $G$, we have $(gh)^{-1}=h^{-1}g^{-1}$.
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– Shaun
Dec 8 '18 at 12:49
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Your solution seems okay to me.
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Answer sheet says $(ab)^{-1} = x$
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I think the answer sheet might be wrong. I've checked your solution several times; as I said, it seems okay to me.
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