Excel VBA- Finding the last column with data
I've found this method for finding the last data containing row in a sheet:
ws.Range("A65536").End(xlUp).row
Is there a similar method for finding the last data containing column in a sheet?
Thanks.
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I've found this method for finding the last data containing row in a sheet:
ws.Range("A65536").End(xlUp).row
Is there a similar method for finding the last data containing column in a sheet?
Thanks.
excel excel-vba vba
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This might not work for Excel 2007+ workbook, which may have over a million rows. You might want to usews.UsedRange
instead.
– ikh
Aug 13 '12 at 1:24
Ah, thanks for that. I didn't know.
– Neat Machine
Aug 13 '12 at 2:14
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@ikh, its prob better to usews.Cells(Rows.Count, "A").End(xlUp).row
– Reafidy
Aug 13 '12 at 2:16
2
possible duplicate of Copy last column with data on specified row to the next blank column
– Siddharth Rout
Aug 13 '12 at 3:43
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I've found this method for finding the last data containing row in a sheet:
ws.Range("A65536").End(xlUp).row
Is there a similar method for finding the last data containing column in a sheet?
Thanks.
excel excel-vba vba
I've found this method for finding the last data containing row in a sheet:
ws.Range("A65536").End(xlUp).row
Is there a similar method for finding the last data containing column in a sheet?
Thanks.
excel excel-vba vba
excel excel-vba vba
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This might not work for Excel 2007+ workbook, which may have over a million rows. You might want to usews.UsedRange
instead.
– ikh
Aug 13 '12 at 1:24
Ah, thanks for that. I didn't know.
– Neat Machine
Aug 13 '12 at 2:14
3
@ikh, its prob better to usews.Cells(Rows.Count, "A").End(xlUp).row
– Reafidy
Aug 13 '12 at 2:16
2
possible duplicate of Copy last column with data on specified row to the next blank column
– Siddharth Rout
Aug 13 '12 at 3:43
add a comment |
2
This might not work for Excel 2007+ workbook, which may have over a million rows. You might want to usews.UsedRange
instead.
– ikh
Aug 13 '12 at 1:24
Ah, thanks for that. I didn't know.
– Neat Machine
Aug 13 '12 at 2:14
3
@ikh, its prob better to usews.Cells(Rows.Count, "A").End(xlUp).row
– Reafidy
Aug 13 '12 at 2:16
2
possible duplicate of Copy last column with data on specified row to the next blank column
– Siddharth Rout
Aug 13 '12 at 3:43
2
2
This might not work for Excel 2007+ workbook, which may have over a million rows. You might want to use
ws.UsedRange
instead.– ikh
Aug 13 '12 at 1:24
This might not work for Excel 2007+ workbook, which may have over a million rows. You might want to use
ws.UsedRange
instead.– ikh
Aug 13 '12 at 1:24
Ah, thanks for that. I didn't know.
– Neat Machine
Aug 13 '12 at 2:14
Ah, thanks for that. I didn't know.
– Neat Machine
Aug 13 '12 at 2:14
3
3
@ikh, its prob better to use
ws.Cells(Rows.Count, "A").End(xlUp).row
– Reafidy
Aug 13 '12 at 2:16
@ikh, its prob better to use
ws.Cells(Rows.Count, "A").End(xlUp).row
– Reafidy
Aug 13 '12 at 2:16
2
2
possible duplicate of Copy last column with data on specified row to the next blank column
– Siddharth Rout
Aug 13 '12 at 3:43
possible duplicate of Copy last column with data on specified row to the next blank column
– Siddharth Rout
Aug 13 '12 at 3:43
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Lots of ways to do this. The most reliable is find.
Dim rLastCell As Range
Set rLastCell = ws.Cells.Find(What:="*", After:=ws.Cells(1, 1), LookIn:=xlFormulas, LookAt:= _
xlPart, SearchOrder:=xlByColumns, SearchDirection:=xlPrevious, MatchCase:=False)
MsgBox ("The last used column is: " & rLastCell.Column)
If you want to find the last column used in a particular row you can use:
Dim lColumn As Long
lColumn = ws.Cells(1, Columns.Count).End(xlToLeft).Column
Using used range (less reliable):
Dim lColumn As Long
lColumn = ws.UsedRange.Columns.Count
Using used range wont work if you have no data in column A. See here for another issue with used range:
See Here regarding resetting used range.
Perfect. Thank you.
– Neat Machine
Aug 13 '12 at 2:14
You welcome, more info here
– Reafidy
Aug 13 '12 at 2:15
1
+ 1 readfidy :) A suggestion though... Always useApplication.CountA
with.Find
to avoid errors. See this stackoverflow.com/questions/11883256/…
– Siddharth Rout
Aug 13 '12 at 3:39
1
Thanks @Sidd, you will find exactly that suggestion and additional info in the link I provided to Ozgrid in my comment above.
– Reafidy
Aug 13 '12 at 4:15
True :) I should have visited that link :)
– Siddharth Rout
Aug 13 '12 at 4:17
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I know this is old, but I've tested this in many ways and it hasn't let me down yet, unless someone can tell me otherwise.
Row number
Row = ws.Cells.Find(What:="*", After:=[A1] , SearchOrder:=xlByRows, SearchDirection:=xlPrevious).Row
Column Letter
ColumnLetter = Split(ws.Cells.Find(What:="*", After:=[A1], SearchOrder:=xlByColumns, SearchDirection:=xlPrevious).Cells.Address(1, 0), "$")(0)
Column Number
ColumnNumber = ws.Cells.Find(What:="*", After:=[A1], SearchOrder:=xlByColumns, SearchDirection:=xlPrevious).Column
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Try using the code after you active the sheet:
Dim J as integer
J = ActiveSheet.UsedRange.SpecialCells(xlCellTypeLastCell).Row
If you use Cells.SpecialCells(xlCellTypeLastCell).Row
only, the problem will be that the xlCellTypeLastCell
information will not be updated unless one do a "Save file" action. But use UsedRange
will always update the information in realtime.
add a comment |
I think we can modify the UsedRange
code from @Readify's answer above to get the last used column even if the starting columns are blank or not.
So this lColumn = ws.UsedRange.Columns.Count
modified to
this lColumn = ws.UsedRange.Column + ws.UsedRange.Columns.Count - 1
will give reliable results always
?Sheet1.UsedRange.Column + Sheet1.UsedRange.Columns.Count - 1
Above line Yields 9
in the immediate window.
add a comment |
Here's something which might be useful. Selecting the entire column based on a row containing data, in this case i am using 5th row:
Dim lColumn As Long
lColumn = ActiveSheet.Cells(5, Columns.Count).End(xlToLeft).Column
MsgBox ("The last used column is: " & lColumn)
What makes your answer different then the accepted answer, besides being shorter? Also please avoid the use of theSelect
statement. That is really bad practice. See stackoverflow.com/questions/10714251/…
– Luuklag
Jun 28 '18 at 10:14
it's short and simple and that's the value added. thanks for the tip on the Select statement. I will have a look. Cheers
– dapaz
Jun 29 '18 at 7:50
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Lots of ways to do this. The most reliable is find.
Dim rLastCell As Range
Set rLastCell = ws.Cells.Find(What:="*", After:=ws.Cells(1, 1), LookIn:=xlFormulas, LookAt:= _
xlPart, SearchOrder:=xlByColumns, SearchDirection:=xlPrevious, MatchCase:=False)
MsgBox ("The last used column is: " & rLastCell.Column)
If you want to find the last column used in a particular row you can use:
Dim lColumn As Long
lColumn = ws.Cells(1, Columns.Count).End(xlToLeft).Column
Using used range (less reliable):
Dim lColumn As Long
lColumn = ws.UsedRange.Columns.Count
Using used range wont work if you have no data in column A. See here for another issue with used range:
See Here regarding resetting used range.
Perfect. Thank you.
– Neat Machine
Aug 13 '12 at 2:14
You welcome, more info here
– Reafidy
Aug 13 '12 at 2:15
1
+ 1 readfidy :) A suggestion though... Always useApplication.CountA
with.Find
to avoid errors. See this stackoverflow.com/questions/11883256/…
– Siddharth Rout
Aug 13 '12 at 3:39
1
Thanks @Sidd, you will find exactly that suggestion and additional info in the link I provided to Ozgrid in my comment above.
– Reafidy
Aug 13 '12 at 4:15
True :) I should have visited that link :)
– Siddharth Rout
Aug 13 '12 at 4:17
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Lots of ways to do this. The most reliable is find.
Dim rLastCell As Range
Set rLastCell = ws.Cells.Find(What:="*", After:=ws.Cells(1, 1), LookIn:=xlFormulas, LookAt:= _
xlPart, SearchOrder:=xlByColumns, SearchDirection:=xlPrevious, MatchCase:=False)
MsgBox ("The last used column is: " & rLastCell.Column)
If you want to find the last column used in a particular row you can use:
Dim lColumn As Long
lColumn = ws.Cells(1, Columns.Count).End(xlToLeft).Column
Using used range (less reliable):
Dim lColumn As Long
lColumn = ws.UsedRange.Columns.Count
Using used range wont work if you have no data in column A. See here for another issue with used range:
See Here regarding resetting used range.
Perfect. Thank you.
– Neat Machine
Aug 13 '12 at 2:14
You welcome, more info here
– Reafidy
Aug 13 '12 at 2:15
1
+ 1 readfidy :) A suggestion though... Always useApplication.CountA
with.Find
to avoid errors. See this stackoverflow.com/questions/11883256/…
– Siddharth Rout
Aug 13 '12 at 3:39
1
Thanks @Sidd, you will find exactly that suggestion and additional info in the link I provided to Ozgrid in my comment above.
– Reafidy
Aug 13 '12 at 4:15
True :) I should have visited that link :)
– Siddharth Rout
Aug 13 '12 at 4:17
|
show 5 more comments
Lots of ways to do this. The most reliable is find.
Dim rLastCell As Range
Set rLastCell = ws.Cells.Find(What:="*", After:=ws.Cells(1, 1), LookIn:=xlFormulas, LookAt:= _
xlPart, SearchOrder:=xlByColumns, SearchDirection:=xlPrevious, MatchCase:=False)
MsgBox ("The last used column is: " & rLastCell.Column)
If you want to find the last column used in a particular row you can use:
Dim lColumn As Long
lColumn = ws.Cells(1, Columns.Count).End(xlToLeft).Column
Using used range (less reliable):
Dim lColumn As Long
lColumn = ws.UsedRange.Columns.Count
Using used range wont work if you have no data in column A. See here for another issue with used range:
See Here regarding resetting used range.
Lots of ways to do this. The most reliable is find.
Dim rLastCell As Range
Set rLastCell = ws.Cells.Find(What:="*", After:=ws.Cells(1, 1), LookIn:=xlFormulas, LookAt:= _
xlPart, SearchOrder:=xlByColumns, SearchDirection:=xlPrevious, MatchCase:=False)
MsgBox ("The last used column is: " & rLastCell.Column)
If you want to find the last column used in a particular row you can use:
Dim lColumn As Long
lColumn = ws.Cells(1, Columns.Count).End(xlToLeft).Column
Using used range (less reliable):
Dim lColumn As Long
lColumn = ws.UsedRange.Columns.Count
Using used range wont work if you have no data in column A. See here for another issue with used range:
See Here regarding resetting used range.
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Perfect. Thank you.
– Neat Machine
Aug 13 '12 at 2:14
You welcome, more info here
– Reafidy
Aug 13 '12 at 2:15
1
+ 1 readfidy :) A suggestion though... Always useApplication.CountA
with.Find
to avoid errors. See this stackoverflow.com/questions/11883256/…
– Siddharth Rout
Aug 13 '12 at 3:39
1
Thanks @Sidd, you will find exactly that suggestion and additional info in the link I provided to Ozgrid in my comment above.
– Reafidy
Aug 13 '12 at 4:15
True :) I should have visited that link :)
– Siddharth Rout
Aug 13 '12 at 4:17
|
show 5 more comments
Perfect. Thank you.
– Neat Machine
Aug 13 '12 at 2:14
You welcome, more info here
– Reafidy
Aug 13 '12 at 2:15
1
+ 1 readfidy :) A suggestion though... Always useApplication.CountA
with.Find
to avoid errors. See this stackoverflow.com/questions/11883256/…
– Siddharth Rout
Aug 13 '12 at 3:39
1
Thanks @Sidd, you will find exactly that suggestion and additional info in the link I provided to Ozgrid in my comment above.
– Reafidy
Aug 13 '12 at 4:15
True :) I should have visited that link :)
– Siddharth Rout
Aug 13 '12 at 4:17
Perfect. Thank you.
– Neat Machine
Aug 13 '12 at 2:14
Perfect. Thank you.
– Neat Machine
Aug 13 '12 at 2:14
You welcome, more info here
– Reafidy
Aug 13 '12 at 2:15
You welcome, more info here
– Reafidy
Aug 13 '12 at 2:15
1
1
+ 1 readfidy :) A suggestion though... Always use
Application.CountA
with .Find
to avoid errors. See this stackoverflow.com/questions/11883256/…– Siddharth Rout
Aug 13 '12 at 3:39
+ 1 readfidy :) A suggestion though... Always use
Application.CountA
with .Find
to avoid errors. See this stackoverflow.com/questions/11883256/…– Siddharth Rout
Aug 13 '12 at 3:39
1
1
Thanks @Sidd, you will find exactly that suggestion and additional info in the link I provided to Ozgrid in my comment above.
– Reafidy
Aug 13 '12 at 4:15
Thanks @Sidd, you will find exactly that suggestion and additional info in the link I provided to Ozgrid in my comment above.
– Reafidy
Aug 13 '12 at 4:15
True :) I should have visited that link :)
– Siddharth Rout
Aug 13 '12 at 4:17
True :) I should have visited that link :)
– Siddharth Rout
Aug 13 '12 at 4:17
|
show 5 more comments
I know this is old, but I've tested this in many ways and it hasn't let me down yet, unless someone can tell me otherwise.
Row number
Row = ws.Cells.Find(What:="*", After:=[A1] , SearchOrder:=xlByRows, SearchDirection:=xlPrevious).Row
Column Letter
ColumnLetter = Split(ws.Cells.Find(What:="*", After:=[A1], SearchOrder:=xlByColumns, SearchDirection:=xlPrevious).Cells.Address(1, 0), "$")(0)
Column Number
ColumnNumber = ws.Cells.Find(What:="*", After:=[A1], SearchOrder:=xlByColumns, SearchDirection:=xlPrevious).Column
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I know this is old, but I've tested this in many ways and it hasn't let me down yet, unless someone can tell me otherwise.
Row number
Row = ws.Cells.Find(What:="*", After:=[A1] , SearchOrder:=xlByRows, SearchDirection:=xlPrevious).Row
Column Letter
ColumnLetter = Split(ws.Cells.Find(What:="*", After:=[A1], SearchOrder:=xlByColumns, SearchDirection:=xlPrevious).Cells.Address(1, 0), "$")(0)
Column Number
ColumnNumber = ws.Cells.Find(What:="*", After:=[A1], SearchOrder:=xlByColumns, SearchDirection:=xlPrevious).Column
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I know this is old, but I've tested this in many ways and it hasn't let me down yet, unless someone can tell me otherwise.
Row number
Row = ws.Cells.Find(What:="*", After:=[A1] , SearchOrder:=xlByRows, SearchDirection:=xlPrevious).Row
Column Letter
ColumnLetter = Split(ws.Cells.Find(What:="*", After:=[A1], SearchOrder:=xlByColumns, SearchDirection:=xlPrevious).Cells.Address(1, 0), "$")(0)
Column Number
ColumnNumber = ws.Cells.Find(What:="*", After:=[A1], SearchOrder:=xlByColumns, SearchDirection:=xlPrevious).Column
I know this is old, but I've tested this in many ways and it hasn't let me down yet, unless someone can tell me otherwise.
Row number
Row = ws.Cells.Find(What:="*", After:=[A1] , SearchOrder:=xlByRows, SearchDirection:=xlPrevious).Row
Column Letter
ColumnLetter = Split(ws.Cells.Find(What:="*", After:=[A1], SearchOrder:=xlByColumns, SearchDirection:=xlPrevious).Cells.Address(1, 0), "$")(0)
Column Number
ColumnNumber = ws.Cells.Find(What:="*", After:=[A1], SearchOrder:=xlByColumns, SearchDirection:=xlPrevious).Column
answered Apr 19 '16 at 11:52
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Try using the code after you active the sheet:
Dim J as integer
J = ActiveSheet.UsedRange.SpecialCells(xlCellTypeLastCell).Row
If you use Cells.SpecialCells(xlCellTypeLastCell).Row
only, the problem will be that the xlCellTypeLastCell
information will not be updated unless one do a "Save file" action. But use UsedRange
will always update the information in realtime.
add a comment |
Try using the code after you active the sheet:
Dim J as integer
J = ActiveSheet.UsedRange.SpecialCells(xlCellTypeLastCell).Row
If you use Cells.SpecialCells(xlCellTypeLastCell).Row
only, the problem will be that the xlCellTypeLastCell
information will not be updated unless one do a "Save file" action. But use UsedRange
will always update the information in realtime.
add a comment |
Try using the code after you active the sheet:
Dim J as integer
J = ActiveSheet.UsedRange.SpecialCells(xlCellTypeLastCell).Row
If you use Cells.SpecialCells(xlCellTypeLastCell).Row
only, the problem will be that the xlCellTypeLastCell
information will not be updated unless one do a "Save file" action. But use UsedRange
will always update the information in realtime.
Try using the code after you active the sheet:
Dim J as integer
J = ActiveSheet.UsedRange.SpecialCells(xlCellTypeLastCell).Row
If you use Cells.SpecialCells(xlCellTypeLastCell).Row
only, the problem will be that the xlCellTypeLastCell
information will not be updated unless one do a "Save file" action. But use UsedRange
will always update the information in realtime.
edited May 22 '13 at 7:16
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I think we can modify the UsedRange
code from @Readify's answer above to get the last used column even if the starting columns are blank or not.
So this lColumn = ws.UsedRange.Columns.Count
modified to
this lColumn = ws.UsedRange.Column + ws.UsedRange.Columns.Count - 1
will give reliable results always
?Sheet1.UsedRange.Column + Sheet1.UsedRange.Columns.Count - 1
Above line Yields 9
in the immediate window.
add a comment |
I think we can modify the UsedRange
code from @Readify's answer above to get the last used column even if the starting columns are blank or not.
So this lColumn = ws.UsedRange.Columns.Count
modified to
this lColumn = ws.UsedRange.Column + ws.UsedRange.Columns.Count - 1
will give reliable results always
?Sheet1.UsedRange.Column + Sheet1.UsedRange.Columns.Count - 1
Above line Yields 9
in the immediate window.
add a comment |
I think we can modify the UsedRange
code from @Readify's answer above to get the last used column even if the starting columns are blank or not.
So this lColumn = ws.UsedRange.Columns.Count
modified to
this lColumn = ws.UsedRange.Column + ws.UsedRange.Columns.Count - 1
will give reliable results always
?Sheet1.UsedRange.Column + Sheet1.UsedRange.Columns.Count - 1
Above line Yields 9
in the immediate window.
I think we can modify the UsedRange
code from @Readify's answer above to get the last used column even if the starting columns are blank or not.
So this lColumn = ws.UsedRange.Columns.Count
modified to
this lColumn = ws.UsedRange.Column + ws.UsedRange.Columns.Count - 1
will give reliable results always
?Sheet1.UsedRange.Column + Sheet1.UsedRange.Columns.Count - 1
Above line Yields 9
in the immediate window.
edited May 23 '17 at 11:54
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Here's something which might be useful. Selecting the entire column based on a row containing data, in this case i am using 5th row:
Dim lColumn As Long
lColumn = ActiveSheet.Cells(5, Columns.Count).End(xlToLeft).Column
MsgBox ("The last used column is: " & lColumn)
What makes your answer different then the accepted answer, besides being shorter? Also please avoid the use of theSelect
statement. That is really bad practice. See stackoverflow.com/questions/10714251/…
– Luuklag
Jun 28 '18 at 10:14
it's short and simple and that's the value added. thanks for the tip on the Select statement. I will have a look. Cheers
– dapaz
Jun 29 '18 at 7:50
add a comment |
Here's something which might be useful. Selecting the entire column based on a row containing data, in this case i am using 5th row:
Dim lColumn As Long
lColumn = ActiveSheet.Cells(5, Columns.Count).End(xlToLeft).Column
MsgBox ("The last used column is: " & lColumn)
What makes your answer different then the accepted answer, besides being shorter? Also please avoid the use of theSelect
statement. That is really bad practice. See stackoverflow.com/questions/10714251/…
– Luuklag
Jun 28 '18 at 10:14
it's short and simple and that's the value added. thanks for the tip on the Select statement. I will have a look. Cheers
– dapaz
Jun 29 '18 at 7:50
add a comment |
Here's something which might be useful. Selecting the entire column based on a row containing data, in this case i am using 5th row:
Dim lColumn As Long
lColumn = ActiveSheet.Cells(5, Columns.Count).End(xlToLeft).Column
MsgBox ("The last used column is: " & lColumn)
Here's something which might be useful. Selecting the entire column based on a row containing data, in this case i am using 5th row:
Dim lColumn As Long
lColumn = ActiveSheet.Cells(5, Columns.Count).End(xlToLeft).Column
MsgBox ("The last used column is: " & lColumn)
edited Jun 29 '18 at 7:48
answered Jun 27 '18 at 9:09
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What makes your answer different then the accepted answer, besides being shorter? Also please avoid the use of theSelect
statement. That is really bad practice. See stackoverflow.com/questions/10714251/…
– Luuklag
Jun 28 '18 at 10:14
it's short and simple and that's the value added. thanks for the tip on the Select statement. I will have a look. Cheers
– dapaz
Jun 29 '18 at 7:50
add a comment |
What makes your answer different then the accepted answer, besides being shorter? Also please avoid the use of theSelect
statement. That is really bad practice. See stackoverflow.com/questions/10714251/…
– Luuklag
Jun 28 '18 at 10:14
it's short and simple and that's the value added. thanks for the tip on the Select statement. I will have a look. Cheers
– dapaz
Jun 29 '18 at 7:50
What makes your answer different then the accepted answer, besides being shorter? Also please avoid the use of the
Select
statement. That is really bad practice. See stackoverflow.com/questions/10714251/…– Luuklag
Jun 28 '18 at 10:14
What makes your answer different then the accepted answer, besides being shorter? Also please avoid the use of the
Select
statement. That is really bad practice. See stackoverflow.com/questions/10714251/…– Luuklag
Jun 28 '18 at 10:14
it's short and simple and that's the value added. thanks for the tip on the Select statement. I will have a look. Cheers
– dapaz
Jun 29 '18 at 7:50
it's short and simple and that's the value added. thanks for the tip on the Select statement. I will have a look. Cheers
– dapaz
Jun 29 '18 at 7:50
add a comment |
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This might not work for Excel 2007+ workbook, which may have over a million rows. You might want to use
ws.UsedRange
instead.– ikh
Aug 13 '12 at 1:24
Ah, thanks for that. I didn't know.
– Neat Machine
Aug 13 '12 at 2:14
3
@ikh, its prob better to use
ws.Cells(Rows.Count, "A").End(xlUp).row
– Reafidy
Aug 13 '12 at 2:16
2
possible duplicate of Copy last column with data on specified row to the next blank column
– Siddharth Rout
Aug 13 '12 at 3:43