A Conditional Probability Problem












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I am interested in finding the following problem:



Let $tau_1$ and $tau_2$ are ordered statistics from a set of 2 independent uniform $(0,t)$ R.V. and let $Y_1,Y_2,Y_3$ are nonnegative iid R.V. that are also independent of $tau_1 & tau_2$. Then we want to show that



$P(Y_1<tau_1, Y_1+Y_2<tau_2|Y_1+Y_2+Y_3=t)=frac{1}{3}$.



For a fixed values of $tau_1=u_1 & tau_2=u_2$ we have,



$P(Y_1<tau_1, Y_1+Y_2<tau_2|Y_1+Y_2+Y_3=t, tau_1=u_1, tau_2=u_2)=\
P(Y_1<tau_1, t-Y_3<tau_2|Y_1+Y_2+Y_3=t, tau_1=u_1, tau_2=u_2)=\
P(Y_1<tau_1|Y_1+Y_2+Y_3=t, tau_1=u_1)P(Y_3>t-tau_2|Y_1+Y_2+Y_3=t, tau_2=u_2)=\
P(Y_1<tau_1|Y_1+Y_2+Y_3=t, tau_1=u_1)P(Y_3<tau_2|Y_1+Y_2+Y_3=t, tau_2=u_2)=\
u_1/t*u_2/t=u_1u_2/t^2$



Then taking expectaion with respect to joint distribution of $(tau_1,tau_2)$ which is $f(tau_1,tau_2)=2/t^2, 0<tau_1<tau_2<t $, we have
$P(Y_1<tau_1, Y_1+Y_2<tau_2|Y_1+Y_2+Y_3=t)=E(tau_1tau_2/t^2)=frac{1}{4}
$



which is not desired answer 1/3. I am not sure if my justification is correct. I appreciate any help for this problem.










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    I am interested in finding the following problem:



    Let $tau_1$ and $tau_2$ are ordered statistics from a set of 2 independent uniform $(0,t)$ R.V. and let $Y_1,Y_2,Y_3$ are nonnegative iid R.V. that are also independent of $tau_1 & tau_2$. Then we want to show that



    $P(Y_1<tau_1, Y_1+Y_2<tau_2|Y_1+Y_2+Y_3=t)=frac{1}{3}$.



    For a fixed values of $tau_1=u_1 & tau_2=u_2$ we have,



    $P(Y_1<tau_1, Y_1+Y_2<tau_2|Y_1+Y_2+Y_3=t, tau_1=u_1, tau_2=u_2)=\
    P(Y_1<tau_1, t-Y_3<tau_2|Y_1+Y_2+Y_3=t, tau_1=u_1, tau_2=u_2)=\
    P(Y_1<tau_1|Y_1+Y_2+Y_3=t, tau_1=u_1)P(Y_3>t-tau_2|Y_1+Y_2+Y_3=t, tau_2=u_2)=\
    P(Y_1<tau_1|Y_1+Y_2+Y_3=t, tau_1=u_1)P(Y_3<tau_2|Y_1+Y_2+Y_3=t, tau_2=u_2)=\
    u_1/t*u_2/t=u_1u_2/t^2$



    Then taking expectaion with respect to joint distribution of $(tau_1,tau_2)$ which is $f(tau_1,tau_2)=2/t^2, 0<tau_1<tau_2<t $, we have
    $P(Y_1<tau_1, Y_1+Y_2<tau_2|Y_1+Y_2+Y_3=t)=E(tau_1tau_2/t^2)=frac{1}{4}
    $



    which is not desired answer 1/3. I am not sure if my justification is correct. I appreciate any help for this problem.










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      I am interested in finding the following problem:



      Let $tau_1$ and $tau_2$ are ordered statistics from a set of 2 independent uniform $(0,t)$ R.V. and let $Y_1,Y_2,Y_3$ are nonnegative iid R.V. that are also independent of $tau_1 & tau_2$. Then we want to show that



      $P(Y_1<tau_1, Y_1+Y_2<tau_2|Y_1+Y_2+Y_3=t)=frac{1}{3}$.



      For a fixed values of $tau_1=u_1 & tau_2=u_2$ we have,



      $P(Y_1<tau_1, Y_1+Y_2<tau_2|Y_1+Y_2+Y_3=t, tau_1=u_1, tau_2=u_2)=\
      P(Y_1<tau_1, t-Y_3<tau_2|Y_1+Y_2+Y_3=t, tau_1=u_1, tau_2=u_2)=\
      P(Y_1<tau_1|Y_1+Y_2+Y_3=t, tau_1=u_1)P(Y_3>t-tau_2|Y_1+Y_2+Y_3=t, tau_2=u_2)=\
      P(Y_1<tau_1|Y_1+Y_2+Y_3=t, tau_1=u_1)P(Y_3<tau_2|Y_1+Y_2+Y_3=t, tau_2=u_2)=\
      u_1/t*u_2/t=u_1u_2/t^2$



      Then taking expectaion with respect to joint distribution of $(tau_1,tau_2)$ which is $f(tau_1,tau_2)=2/t^2, 0<tau_1<tau_2<t $, we have
      $P(Y_1<tau_1, Y_1+Y_2<tau_2|Y_1+Y_2+Y_3=t)=E(tau_1tau_2/t^2)=frac{1}{4}
      $



      which is not desired answer 1/3. I am not sure if my justification is correct. I appreciate any help for this problem.










      share|cite|improve this question









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      I am interested in finding the following problem:



      Let $tau_1$ and $tau_2$ are ordered statistics from a set of 2 independent uniform $(0,t)$ R.V. and let $Y_1,Y_2,Y_3$ are nonnegative iid R.V. that are also independent of $tau_1 & tau_2$. Then we want to show that



      $P(Y_1<tau_1, Y_1+Y_2<tau_2|Y_1+Y_2+Y_3=t)=frac{1}{3}$.



      For a fixed values of $tau_1=u_1 & tau_2=u_2$ we have,



      $P(Y_1<tau_1, Y_1+Y_2<tau_2|Y_1+Y_2+Y_3=t, tau_1=u_1, tau_2=u_2)=\
      P(Y_1<tau_1, t-Y_3<tau_2|Y_1+Y_2+Y_3=t, tau_1=u_1, tau_2=u_2)=\
      P(Y_1<tau_1|Y_1+Y_2+Y_3=t, tau_1=u_1)P(Y_3>t-tau_2|Y_1+Y_2+Y_3=t, tau_2=u_2)=\
      P(Y_1<tau_1|Y_1+Y_2+Y_3=t, tau_1=u_1)P(Y_3<tau_2|Y_1+Y_2+Y_3=t, tau_2=u_2)=\
      u_1/t*u_2/t=u_1u_2/t^2$



      Then taking expectaion with respect to joint distribution of $(tau_1,tau_2)$ which is $f(tau_1,tau_2)=2/t^2, 0<tau_1<tau_2<t $, we have
      $P(Y_1<tau_1, Y_1+Y_2<tau_2|Y_1+Y_2+Y_3=t)=E(tau_1tau_2/t^2)=frac{1}{4}
      $



      which is not desired answer 1/3. I am not sure if my justification is correct. I appreciate any help for this problem.







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