Quasi-Chinese remainder theorem for modules












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Let $R$ be a ring. The Chinese Remainder Theorem asserts that if $J_1, ldots, J_nlhd R$ are bilateral coprime ideals ( i.e. $J_i+J_k=R, forall ineq k$) then the map $$varphi:ain Rlongmapsto (a+J_1,...,a+J_n)in R/J_1oplus ...oplus R/J_n $$ is a surjective ring morphism, such that $$ker (varphi)=displaystyle bigcap _{1leq ileq n} J_i.$$ Thus we have a ring isomorphism (and thus a R-module isomorphism) $$frac{R}{displaystyle bigcap_{1leq ileq n } J_i}simeq R/J_1oplus ...oplus R/J_n.$$
In the proof the fact that the ideals are bilateral is used not only to make sense of the ring quotient $R/J_i$.
So I’m wondering whether I could extend the theorem in order to obtain a module isomorphism instead of a ring one in the following sense:



Let R be a non-commutative ring (the commutative case is in fact the Chinese remainder Theorem itself) and $J_1,dots , J_nsubset R$ be left ideals such that $J_i+J_k=R$ if $ineq k$. Let $R/J_i$ be the quotient module of the left regular R-module modulo the left $R$-module $ J_i$. Then the mapping $varphi$ (defined above) is a surjective R-module morphism.



The problem rose in trying to prove (or disprove) that any finite dimensional $k$-algebra has only a finite number of simple left modules up to isomorphism. If the module-generalisation theorem holds, then I have proved this fact.










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  • Interesting question. It is certainly true for $n = 2$.
    – darij grinberg
    Nov 20 at 20:24










  • I’ve already noted this since the proof for the bilateral case still holds, but I forgot to put it in the post. Thank you
    – Blumer
    Nov 20 at 20:26












  • Ah, it is false for $n = 3$. Let $V$ be a $2$-dimensional $mathbb{Q}$-vector space with basis $left(e_1, e_2right)$. Let $e_3 = e_1 + e_2$. Let $R = operatorname{End} V$. For each $i$, let $J_i$ be the left ideal $left{ A in R mid A e_i = 0 right}$. Then, $J_i + J_j = R$ whenever $i neq j$, but the map $varphi$ cannot be surjective (since it goes from a $4$-dimensional $mathbb{Q}$-vector space into a $6$-dimensional one).
    – darij grinberg
    Nov 20 at 20:33










  • As for the question you were trying to solve in the last paragraph: It follows from Theorem 1 in mathoverflow.net/questions/14514/… .
    – darij grinberg
    Nov 20 at 20:34










  • @darijgrinberg sorry but I can’t see how this is related with my latter question: I suppose that there exist k-algebras which are not group algebras for any group.
    – Blumer
    Nov 21 at 21:45
















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Let $R$ be a ring. The Chinese Remainder Theorem asserts that if $J_1, ldots, J_nlhd R$ are bilateral coprime ideals ( i.e. $J_i+J_k=R, forall ineq k$) then the map $$varphi:ain Rlongmapsto (a+J_1,...,a+J_n)in R/J_1oplus ...oplus R/J_n $$ is a surjective ring morphism, such that $$ker (varphi)=displaystyle bigcap _{1leq ileq n} J_i.$$ Thus we have a ring isomorphism (and thus a R-module isomorphism) $$frac{R}{displaystyle bigcap_{1leq ileq n } J_i}simeq R/J_1oplus ...oplus R/J_n.$$
In the proof the fact that the ideals are bilateral is used not only to make sense of the ring quotient $R/J_i$.
So I’m wondering whether I could extend the theorem in order to obtain a module isomorphism instead of a ring one in the following sense:



Let R be a non-commutative ring (the commutative case is in fact the Chinese remainder Theorem itself) and $J_1,dots , J_nsubset R$ be left ideals such that $J_i+J_k=R$ if $ineq k$. Let $R/J_i$ be the quotient module of the left regular R-module modulo the left $R$-module $ J_i$. Then the mapping $varphi$ (defined above) is a surjective R-module morphism.



The problem rose in trying to prove (or disprove) that any finite dimensional $k$-algebra has only a finite number of simple left modules up to isomorphism. If the module-generalisation theorem holds, then I have proved this fact.










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  • Interesting question. It is certainly true for $n = 2$.
    – darij grinberg
    Nov 20 at 20:24










  • I’ve already noted this since the proof for the bilateral case still holds, but I forgot to put it in the post. Thank you
    – Blumer
    Nov 20 at 20:26












  • Ah, it is false for $n = 3$. Let $V$ be a $2$-dimensional $mathbb{Q}$-vector space with basis $left(e_1, e_2right)$. Let $e_3 = e_1 + e_2$. Let $R = operatorname{End} V$. For each $i$, let $J_i$ be the left ideal $left{ A in R mid A e_i = 0 right}$. Then, $J_i + J_j = R$ whenever $i neq j$, but the map $varphi$ cannot be surjective (since it goes from a $4$-dimensional $mathbb{Q}$-vector space into a $6$-dimensional one).
    – darij grinberg
    Nov 20 at 20:33










  • As for the question you were trying to solve in the last paragraph: It follows from Theorem 1 in mathoverflow.net/questions/14514/… .
    – darij grinberg
    Nov 20 at 20:34










  • @darijgrinberg sorry but I can’t see how this is related with my latter question: I suppose that there exist k-algebras which are not group algebras for any group.
    – Blumer
    Nov 21 at 21:45














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Let $R$ be a ring. The Chinese Remainder Theorem asserts that if $J_1, ldots, J_nlhd R$ are bilateral coprime ideals ( i.e. $J_i+J_k=R, forall ineq k$) then the map $$varphi:ain Rlongmapsto (a+J_1,...,a+J_n)in R/J_1oplus ...oplus R/J_n $$ is a surjective ring morphism, such that $$ker (varphi)=displaystyle bigcap _{1leq ileq n} J_i.$$ Thus we have a ring isomorphism (and thus a R-module isomorphism) $$frac{R}{displaystyle bigcap_{1leq ileq n } J_i}simeq R/J_1oplus ...oplus R/J_n.$$
In the proof the fact that the ideals are bilateral is used not only to make sense of the ring quotient $R/J_i$.
So I’m wondering whether I could extend the theorem in order to obtain a module isomorphism instead of a ring one in the following sense:



Let R be a non-commutative ring (the commutative case is in fact the Chinese remainder Theorem itself) and $J_1,dots , J_nsubset R$ be left ideals such that $J_i+J_k=R$ if $ineq k$. Let $R/J_i$ be the quotient module of the left regular R-module modulo the left $R$-module $ J_i$. Then the mapping $varphi$ (defined above) is a surjective R-module morphism.



The problem rose in trying to prove (or disprove) that any finite dimensional $k$-algebra has only a finite number of simple left modules up to isomorphism. If the module-generalisation theorem holds, then I have proved this fact.










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Let $R$ be a ring. The Chinese Remainder Theorem asserts that if $J_1, ldots, J_nlhd R$ are bilateral coprime ideals ( i.e. $J_i+J_k=R, forall ineq k$) then the map $$varphi:ain Rlongmapsto (a+J_1,...,a+J_n)in R/J_1oplus ...oplus R/J_n $$ is a surjective ring morphism, such that $$ker (varphi)=displaystyle bigcap _{1leq ileq n} J_i.$$ Thus we have a ring isomorphism (and thus a R-module isomorphism) $$frac{R}{displaystyle bigcap_{1leq ileq n } J_i}simeq R/J_1oplus ...oplus R/J_n.$$
In the proof the fact that the ideals are bilateral is used not only to make sense of the ring quotient $R/J_i$.
So I’m wondering whether I could extend the theorem in order to obtain a module isomorphism instead of a ring one in the following sense:



Let R be a non-commutative ring (the commutative case is in fact the Chinese remainder Theorem itself) and $J_1,dots , J_nsubset R$ be left ideals such that $J_i+J_k=R$ if $ineq k$. Let $R/J_i$ be the quotient module of the left regular R-module modulo the left $R$-module $ J_i$. Then the mapping $varphi$ (defined above) is a surjective R-module morphism.



The problem rose in trying to prove (or disprove) that any finite dimensional $k$-algebra has only a finite number of simple left modules up to isomorphism. If the module-generalisation theorem holds, then I have proved this fact.







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  • Interesting question. It is certainly true for $n = 2$.
    – darij grinberg
    Nov 20 at 20:24










  • I’ve already noted this since the proof for the bilateral case still holds, but I forgot to put it in the post. Thank you
    – Blumer
    Nov 20 at 20:26












  • Ah, it is false for $n = 3$. Let $V$ be a $2$-dimensional $mathbb{Q}$-vector space with basis $left(e_1, e_2right)$. Let $e_3 = e_1 + e_2$. Let $R = operatorname{End} V$. For each $i$, let $J_i$ be the left ideal $left{ A in R mid A e_i = 0 right}$. Then, $J_i + J_j = R$ whenever $i neq j$, but the map $varphi$ cannot be surjective (since it goes from a $4$-dimensional $mathbb{Q}$-vector space into a $6$-dimensional one).
    – darij grinberg
    Nov 20 at 20:33










  • As for the question you were trying to solve in the last paragraph: It follows from Theorem 1 in mathoverflow.net/questions/14514/… .
    – darij grinberg
    Nov 20 at 20:34










  • @darijgrinberg sorry but I can’t see how this is related with my latter question: I suppose that there exist k-algebras which are not group algebras for any group.
    – Blumer
    Nov 21 at 21:45


















  • Interesting question. It is certainly true for $n = 2$.
    – darij grinberg
    Nov 20 at 20:24










  • I’ve already noted this since the proof for the bilateral case still holds, but I forgot to put it in the post. Thank you
    – Blumer
    Nov 20 at 20:26












  • Ah, it is false for $n = 3$. Let $V$ be a $2$-dimensional $mathbb{Q}$-vector space with basis $left(e_1, e_2right)$. Let $e_3 = e_1 + e_2$. Let $R = operatorname{End} V$. For each $i$, let $J_i$ be the left ideal $left{ A in R mid A e_i = 0 right}$. Then, $J_i + J_j = R$ whenever $i neq j$, but the map $varphi$ cannot be surjective (since it goes from a $4$-dimensional $mathbb{Q}$-vector space into a $6$-dimensional one).
    – darij grinberg
    Nov 20 at 20:33










  • As for the question you were trying to solve in the last paragraph: It follows from Theorem 1 in mathoverflow.net/questions/14514/… .
    – darij grinberg
    Nov 20 at 20:34










  • @darijgrinberg sorry but I can’t see how this is related with my latter question: I suppose that there exist k-algebras which are not group algebras for any group.
    – Blumer
    Nov 21 at 21:45
















Interesting question. It is certainly true for $n = 2$.
– darij grinberg
Nov 20 at 20:24




Interesting question. It is certainly true for $n = 2$.
– darij grinberg
Nov 20 at 20:24












I’ve already noted this since the proof for the bilateral case still holds, but I forgot to put it in the post. Thank you
– Blumer
Nov 20 at 20:26






I’ve already noted this since the proof for the bilateral case still holds, but I forgot to put it in the post. Thank you
– Blumer
Nov 20 at 20:26














Ah, it is false for $n = 3$. Let $V$ be a $2$-dimensional $mathbb{Q}$-vector space with basis $left(e_1, e_2right)$. Let $e_3 = e_1 + e_2$. Let $R = operatorname{End} V$. For each $i$, let $J_i$ be the left ideal $left{ A in R mid A e_i = 0 right}$. Then, $J_i + J_j = R$ whenever $i neq j$, but the map $varphi$ cannot be surjective (since it goes from a $4$-dimensional $mathbb{Q}$-vector space into a $6$-dimensional one).
– darij grinberg
Nov 20 at 20:33




Ah, it is false for $n = 3$. Let $V$ be a $2$-dimensional $mathbb{Q}$-vector space with basis $left(e_1, e_2right)$. Let $e_3 = e_1 + e_2$. Let $R = operatorname{End} V$. For each $i$, let $J_i$ be the left ideal $left{ A in R mid A e_i = 0 right}$. Then, $J_i + J_j = R$ whenever $i neq j$, but the map $varphi$ cannot be surjective (since it goes from a $4$-dimensional $mathbb{Q}$-vector space into a $6$-dimensional one).
– darij grinberg
Nov 20 at 20:33












As for the question you were trying to solve in the last paragraph: It follows from Theorem 1 in mathoverflow.net/questions/14514/… .
– darij grinberg
Nov 20 at 20:34




As for the question you were trying to solve in the last paragraph: It follows from Theorem 1 in mathoverflow.net/questions/14514/… .
– darij grinberg
Nov 20 at 20:34












@darijgrinberg sorry but I can’t see how this is related with my latter question: I suppose that there exist k-algebras which are not group algebras for any group.
– Blumer
Nov 21 at 21:45




@darijgrinberg sorry but I can’t see how this is related with my latter question: I suppose that there exist k-algebras which are not group algebras for any group.
– Blumer
Nov 21 at 21:45










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The answer that follows is just a detailed version of my comments to the
original post.



Your conjecture (that $varphi$ is surjective) is true for each $nleq2$ but
false for each $ngeq3$. Let me show this. First, let me prove that it is true
for $n=2$ (for the sake of completeness -- I know that you have a proof):




Proposition 1. Let $R$ be a (noncommutative, associative, unital) ring.
Let $U$ and $V$ be two left ideals of $R$ such that $U+V=R$. Let
$varphi:Rrightarrowleft( R/Uright) oplusleft( R/Vright) $ be the
map that sends each $rin R$ to $left( r+U,r+Vright) inleft(
R/Uright) oplusleft( R/Vright) $
. Then, $varphi$ is a surjective
$R$-module homomorphism.




Proof of Proposition 1. It is clear that $varphi$ is an $R$-module
homomorphism. It thus remains to prove that $varphi$ is surjective.



We have $1in R=U+V$. In other words, there exist $uin U$ and $vin V$ such
that $1=u+v$. Consider these $u$ and $v$.



Let $zinleft( R/Uright) oplusleft( R/Vright) $ be arbitrary. Thus,
we can write $z$ in the form $z=left( alpha,betaright) $ for some
$alphain R/U$ and $betain R/V$. Consider these $alpha$ and $beta$.



We have $alphain R/U$; thus, there exists some $ain R$ such that
$alpha=a+U$. Consider this $a$.



We have $betain R/V$; thus, there exists some $bin R$ such that $beta
=b+V$
. Consider this $b$.



Let $x=av+buin R$. Thus,
begin{align*}
underbrace{x}_{=av+bu}-underbrace{a}_{substack{=a1=aleft( u+vright)
\text{(since }1=u+vtext{)}}} & =av+bu-aleft( u+vright) =bu-au=left(
b-aright) underbrace{u}_{in U}\
& inleft( b-aright) Usubseteq Uqquadleft( text{since }Utext{ is a
left ideal of }Rright) ,
end{align*}

so that $x+U=a+U=alpha$. Also,
begin{align*}
underbrace{x}_{=av+bu}-underbrace{b}_{substack{=b1=bleft( u+vright)
\text{(since }1=u+vtext{)}}} & =av+bu-bleft( u+vright) =av-bv=left(
a-bright) underbrace{v}_{in V}\
& inleft( a-bright) Vsubseteq Vqquadleft( text{since }Vtext{ is a
left ideal of }Rright) ,
end{align*}

so that $x+V=b+V=beta$. Now, the definition of $varphi$ yields
begin{equation}
varphileft( xright) =left( underbrace{x+U}_{=alpha},underbrace{x+V}
_{=beta}right) =left( alpha,betaright) =z.
end{equation}

Thus, $z=varphileft( underbrace{x}_{in R}right) invarphileft(
Rright) $
.



Now, forget that we fixed $z$. Thus, we have shown that $zinvarphileft(
Rright) $
for each $zinleft( R/Uright) oplusleft( R/Vright) $. In
other words, the map $varphi$ is surjective. This completes the proof of
Proposition 1. $blacksquare$



Proposition 1 shows that your conjecture holds for $n=2$. For $n<2$, it is
completely obvious (since $varphi$ is a projection map in this case). Now,
let me disprove your conjecture for $n>2$ using the following example:




Example 2. Let $n>2$ be an integer. Let $V$ be the $2$-dimensional
$mathbb{Q}$-vector space $mathbb{Q}^{2}$. For each positive integer $i$, let
$e_{i}$ be the vector $left( 1,iright) ^{T}in V$. Note that these vectors
$e_{1},e_{2},e_{3},ldots$ are pairwise linearly independent. Let
$R=operatorname*{End}nolimits_{mathbb{Q}}Vcongmathbb{Q}^{2times2}$. For
each positive integer $i$, let $J_{i}$ be the subset $left{ Ain
R mid Ae_{i}=0right} $
of $R$. It is clear that all these subsets
$J_{1},J_{2},J_{3},ldots$ are left ideals of $R$. Moreover, each $J_{i}$ is a
$2$-dimensional subspace of the $4$-dimensional $mathbb{Q}$-vector space $R$.
But any two positive integers $i$ and $j$ satisfy $J_{i}cap J_{j}=0$ (because
any endomorphism $Ain R$ that annihilates the two linearly independent
vectors $e_{i}$ and $e_{j}$ must be the zero map) and therefore $J_{i}
+J_{j}=R$
(since $dimleft( J_{i}+J_{j}right) =underbrace{dimleft(
J_{i}right) }_{=2}+underbrace{dimleft( J_{j}right) }_{=2}
-underbrace{dimleft( J_{i}cap J_{j}right) }_{=0}=4$
). Hence, if your
conjecture were true, the map $varphi:Rrightarrowleft( R/J_{1}right)
oplusleft( R/J_{2}right) opluscdotsoplusleft( R/J_{n}right) $

would be surjective. This would yield $4geq2n$, since this map $varphi$ is a
$mathbb{Q}$-linear map from a $4$-dimensional $mathbb{Q}$-vector space to a
$left( 2nright) $-dimensional $mathbb{Q}$-vector space; but this would
contradict $n>2$.




Finally, the question you were trying to solve in the last paragraph is a
consequence of Theorem 1 in https://mathoverflow.net/a/14516/ .






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    The answer that follows is just a detailed version of my comments to the
    original post.



    Your conjecture (that $varphi$ is surjective) is true for each $nleq2$ but
    false for each $ngeq3$. Let me show this. First, let me prove that it is true
    for $n=2$ (for the sake of completeness -- I know that you have a proof):




    Proposition 1. Let $R$ be a (noncommutative, associative, unital) ring.
    Let $U$ and $V$ be two left ideals of $R$ such that $U+V=R$. Let
    $varphi:Rrightarrowleft( R/Uright) oplusleft( R/Vright) $ be the
    map that sends each $rin R$ to $left( r+U,r+Vright) inleft(
    R/Uright) oplusleft( R/Vright) $
    . Then, $varphi$ is a surjective
    $R$-module homomorphism.




    Proof of Proposition 1. It is clear that $varphi$ is an $R$-module
    homomorphism. It thus remains to prove that $varphi$ is surjective.



    We have $1in R=U+V$. In other words, there exist $uin U$ and $vin V$ such
    that $1=u+v$. Consider these $u$ and $v$.



    Let $zinleft( R/Uright) oplusleft( R/Vright) $ be arbitrary. Thus,
    we can write $z$ in the form $z=left( alpha,betaright) $ for some
    $alphain R/U$ and $betain R/V$. Consider these $alpha$ and $beta$.



    We have $alphain R/U$; thus, there exists some $ain R$ such that
    $alpha=a+U$. Consider this $a$.



    We have $betain R/V$; thus, there exists some $bin R$ such that $beta
    =b+V$
    . Consider this $b$.



    Let $x=av+buin R$. Thus,
    begin{align*}
    underbrace{x}_{=av+bu}-underbrace{a}_{substack{=a1=aleft( u+vright)
    \text{(since }1=u+vtext{)}}} & =av+bu-aleft( u+vright) =bu-au=left(
    b-aright) underbrace{u}_{in U}\
    & inleft( b-aright) Usubseteq Uqquadleft( text{since }Utext{ is a
    left ideal of }Rright) ,
    end{align*}

    so that $x+U=a+U=alpha$. Also,
    begin{align*}
    underbrace{x}_{=av+bu}-underbrace{b}_{substack{=b1=bleft( u+vright)
    \text{(since }1=u+vtext{)}}} & =av+bu-bleft( u+vright) =av-bv=left(
    a-bright) underbrace{v}_{in V}\
    & inleft( a-bright) Vsubseteq Vqquadleft( text{since }Vtext{ is a
    left ideal of }Rright) ,
    end{align*}

    so that $x+V=b+V=beta$. Now, the definition of $varphi$ yields
    begin{equation}
    varphileft( xright) =left( underbrace{x+U}_{=alpha},underbrace{x+V}
    _{=beta}right) =left( alpha,betaright) =z.
    end{equation}

    Thus, $z=varphileft( underbrace{x}_{in R}right) invarphileft(
    Rright) $
    .



    Now, forget that we fixed $z$. Thus, we have shown that $zinvarphileft(
    Rright) $
    for each $zinleft( R/Uright) oplusleft( R/Vright) $. In
    other words, the map $varphi$ is surjective. This completes the proof of
    Proposition 1. $blacksquare$



    Proposition 1 shows that your conjecture holds for $n=2$. For $n<2$, it is
    completely obvious (since $varphi$ is a projection map in this case). Now,
    let me disprove your conjecture for $n>2$ using the following example:




    Example 2. Let $n>2$ be an integer. Let $V$ be the $2$-dimensional
    $mathbb{Q}$-vector space $mathbb{Q}^{2}$. For each positive integer $i$, let
    $e_{i}$ be the vector $left( 1,iright) ^{T}in V$. Note that these vectors
    $e_{1},e_{2},e_{3},ldots$ are pairwise linearly independent. Let
    $R=operatorname*{End}nolimits_{mathbb{Q}}Vcongmathbb{Q}^{2times2}$. For
    each positive integer $i$, let $J_{i}$ be the subset $left{ Ain
    R mid Ae_{i}=0right} $
    of $R$. It is clear that all these subsets
    $J_{1},J_{2},J_{3},ldots$ are left ideals of $R$. Moreover, each $J_{i}$ is a
    $2$-dimensional subspace of the $4$-dimensional $mathbb{Q}$-vector space $R$.
    But any two positive integers $i$ and $j$ satisfy $J_{i}cap J_{j}=0$ (because
    any endomorphism $Ain R$ that annihilates the two linearly independent
    vectors $e_{i}$ and $e_{j}$ must be the zero map) and therefore $J_{i}
    +J_{j}=R$
    (since $dimleft( J_{i}+J_{j}right) =underbrace{dimleft(
    J_{i}right) }_{=2}+underbrace{dimleft( J_{j}right) }_{=2}
    -underbrace{dimleft( J_{i}cap J_{j}right) }_{=0}=4$
    ). Hence, if your
    conjecture were true, the map $varphi:Rrightarrowleft( R/J_{1}right)
    oplusleft( R/J_{2}right) opluscdotsoplusleft( R/J_{n}right) $

    would be surjective. This would yield $4geq2n$, since this map $varphi$ is a
    $mathbb{Q}$-linear map from a $4$-dimensional $mathbb{Q}$-vector space to a
    $left( 2nright) $-dimensional $mathbb{Q}$-vector space; but this would
    contradict $n>2$.




    Finally, the question you were trying to solve in the last paragraph is a
    consequence of Theorem 1 in https://mathoverflow.net/a/14516/ .






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      The answer that follows is just a detailed version of my comments to the
      original post.



      Your conjecture (that $varphi$ is surjective) is true for each $nleq2$ but
      false for each $ngeq3$. Let me show this. First, let me prove that it is true
      for $n=2$ (for the sake of completeness -- I know that you have a proof):




      Proposition 1. Let $R$ be a (noncommutative, associative, unital) ring.
      Let $U$ and $V$ be two left ideals of $R$ such that $U+V=R$. Let
      $varphi:Rrightarrowleft( R/Uright) oplusleft( R/Vright) $ be the
      map that sends each $rin R$ to $left( r+U,r+Vright) inleft(
      R/Uright) oplusleft( R/Vright) $
      . Then, $varphi$ is a surjective
      $R$-module homomorphism.




      Proof of Proposition 1. It is clear that $varphi$ is an $R$-module
      homomorphism. It thus remains to prove that $varphi$ is surjective.



      We have $1in R=U+V$. In other words, there exist $uin U$ and $vin V$ such
      that $1=u+v$. Consider these $u$ and $v$.



      Let $zinleft( R/Uright) oplusleft( R/Vright) $ be arbitrary. Thus,
      we can write $z$ in the form $z=left( alpha,betaright) $ for some
      $alphain R/U$ and $betain R/V$. Consider these $alpha$ and $beta$.



      We have $alphain R/U$; thus, there exists some $ain R$ such that
      $alpha=a+U$. Consider this $a$.



      We have $betain R/V$; thus, there exists some $bin R$ such that $beta
      =b+V$
      . Consider this $b$.



      Let $x=av+buin R$. Thus,
      begin{align*}
      underbrace{x}_{=av+bu}-underbrace{a}_{substack{=a1=aleft( u+vright)
      \text{(since }1=u+vtext{)}}} & =av+bu-aleft( u+vright) =bu-au=left(
      b-aright) underbrace{u}_{in U}\
      & inleft( b-aright) Usubseteq Uqquadleft( text{since }Utext{ is a
      left ideal of }Rright) ,
      end{align*}

      so that $x+U=a+U=alpha$. Also,
      begin{align*}
      underbrace{x}_{=av+bu}-underbrace{b}_{substack{=b1=bleft( u+vright)
      \text{(since }1=u+vtext{)}}} & =av+bu-bleft( u+vright) =av-bv=left(
      a-bright) underbrace{v}_{in V}\
      & inleft( a-bright) Vsubseteq Vqquadleft( text{since }Vtext{ is a
      left ideal of }Rright) ,
      end{align*}

      so that $x+V=b+V=beta$. Now, the definition of $varphi$ yields
      begin{equation}
      varphileft( xright) =left( underbrace{x+U}_{=alpha},underbrace{x+V}
      _{=beta}right) =left( alpha,betaright) =z.
      end{equation}

      Thus, $z=varphileft( underbrace{x}_{in R}right) invarphileft(
      Rright) $
      .



      Now, forget that we fixed $z$. Thus, we have shown that $zinvarphileft(
      Rright) $
      for each $zinleft( R/Uright) oplusleft( R/Vright) $. In
      other words, the map $varphi$ is surjective. This completes the proof of
      Proposition 1. $blacksquare$



      Proposition 1 shows that your conjecture holds for $n=2$. For $n<2$, it is
      completely obvious (since $varphi$ is a projection map in this case). Now,
      let me disprove your conjecture for $n>2$ using the following example:




      Example 2. Let $n>2$ be an integer. Let $V$ be the $2$-dimensional
      $mathbb{Q}$-vector space $mathbb{Q}^{2}$. For each positive integer $i$, let
      $e_{i}$ be the vector $left( 1,iright) ^{T}in V$. Note that these vectors
      $e_{1},e_{2},e_{3},ldots$ are pairwise linearly independent. Let
      $R=operatorname*{End}nolimits_{mathbb{Q}}Vcongmathbb{Q}^{2times2}$. For
      each positive integer $i$, let $J_{i}$ be the subset $left{ Ain
      R mid Ae_{i}=0right} $
      of $R$. It is clear that all these subsets
      $J_{1},J_{2},J_{3},ldots$ are left ideals of $R$. Moreover, each $J_{i}$ is a
      $2$-dimensional subspace of the $4$-dimensional $mathbb{Q}$-vector space $R$.
      But any two positive integers $i$ and $j$ satisfy $J_{i}cap J_{j}=0$ (because
      any endomorphism $Ain R$ that annihilates the two linearly independent
      vectors $e_{i}$ and $e_{j}$ must be the zero map) and therefore $J_{i}
      +J_{j}=R$
      (since $dimleft( J_{i}+J_{j}right) =underbrace{dimleft(
      J_{i}right) }_{=2}+underbrace{dimleft( J_{j}right) }_{=2}
      -underbrace{dimleft( J_{i}cap J_{j}right) }_{=0}=4$
      ). Hence, if your
      conjecture were true, the map $varphi:Rrightarrowleft( R/J_{1}right)
      oplusleft( R/J_{2}right) opluscdotsoplusleft( R/J_{n}right) $

      would be surjective. This would yield $4geq2n$, since this map $varphi$ is a
      $mathbb{Q}$-linear map from a $4$-dimensional $mathbb{Q}$-vector space to a
      $left( 2nright) $-dimensional $mathbb{Q}$-vector space; but this would
      contradict $n>2$.




      Finally, the question you were trying to solve in the last paragraph is a
      consequence of Theorem 1 in https://mathoverflow.net/a/14516/ .






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        The answer that follows is just a detailed version of my comments to the
        original post.



        Your conjecture (that $varphi$ is surjective) is true for each $nleq2$ but
        false for each $ngeq3$. Let me show this. First, let me prove that it is true
        for $n=2$ (for the sake of completeness -- I know that you have a proof):




        Proposition 1. Let $R$ be a (noncommutative, associative, unital) ring.
        Let $U$ and $V$ be two left ideals of $R$ such that $U+V=R$. Let
        $varphi:Rrightarrowleft( R/Uright) oplusleft( R/Vright) $ be the
        map that sends each $rin R$ to $left( r+U,r+Vright) inleft(
        R/Uright) oplusleft( R/Vright) $
        . Then, $varphi$ is a surjective
        $R$-module homomorphism.




        Proof of Proposition 1. It is clear that $varphi$ is an $R$-module
        homomorphism. It thus remains to prove that $varphi$ is surjective.



        We have $1in R=U+V$. In other words, there exist $uin U$ and $vin V$ such
        that $1=u+v$. Consider these $u$ and $v$.



        Let $zinleft( R/Uright) oplusleft( R/Vright) $ be arbitrary. Thus,
        we can write $z$ in the form $z=left( alpha,betaright) $ for some
        $alphain R/U$ and $betain R/V$. Consider these $alpha$ and $beta$.



        We have $alphain R/U$; thus, there exists some $ain R$ such that
        $alpha=a+U$. Consider this $a$.



        We have $betain R/V$; thus, there exists some $bin R$ such that $beta
        =b+V$
        . Consider this $b$.



        Let $x=av+buin R$. Thus,
        begin{align*}
        underbrace{x}_{=av+bu}-underbrace{a}_{substack{=a1=aleft( u+vright)
        \text{(since }1=u+vtext{)}}} & =av+bu-aleft( u+vright) =bu-au=left(
        b-aright) underbrace{u}_{in U}\
        & inleft( b-aright) Usubseteq Uqquadleft( text{since }Utext{ is a
        left ideal of }Rright) ,
        end{align*}

        so that $x+U=a+U=alpha$. Also,
        begin{align*}
        underbrace{x}_{=av+bu}-underbrace{b}_{substack{=b1=bleft( u+vright)
        \text{(since }1=u+vtext{)}}} & =av+bu-bleft( u+vright) =av-bv=left(
        a-bright) underbrace{v}_{in V}\
        & inleft( a-bright) Vsubseteq Vqquadleft( text{since }Vtext{ is a
        left ideal of }Rright) ,
        end{align*}

        so that $x+V=b+V=beta$. Now, the definition of $varphi$ yields
        begin{equation}
        varphileft( xright) =left( underbrace{x+U}_{=alpha},underbrace{x+V}
        _{=beta}right) =left( alpha,betaright) =z.
        end{equation}

        Thus, $z=varphileft( underbrace{x}_{in R}right) invarphileft(
        Rright) $
        .



        Now, forget that we fixed $z$. Thus, we have shown that $zinvarphileft(
        Rright) $
        for each $zinleft( R/Uright) oplusleft( R/Vright) $. In
        other words, the map $varphi$ is surjective. This completes the proof of
        Proposition 1. $blacksquare$



        Proposition 1 shows that your conjecture holds for $n=2$. For $n<2$, it is
        completely obvious (since $varphi$ is a projection map in this case). Now,
        let me disprove your conjecture for $n>2$ using the following example:




        Example 2. Let $n>2$ be an integer. Let $V$ be the $2$-dimensional
        $mathbb{Q}$-vector space $mathbb{Q}^{2}$. For each positive integer $i$, let
        $e_{i}$ be the vector $left( 1,iright) ^{T}in V$. Note that these vectors
        $e_{1},e_{2},e_{3},ldots$ are pairwise linearly independent. Let
        $R=operatorname*{End}nolimits_{mathbb{Q}}Vcongmathbb{Q}^{2times2}$. For
        each positive integer $i$, let $J_{i}$ be the subset $left{ Ain
        R mid Ae_{i}=0right} $
        of $R$. It is clear that all these subsets
        $J_{1},J_{2},J_{3},ldots$ are left ideals of $R$. Moreover, each $J_{i}$ is a
        $2$-dimensional subspace of the $4$-dimensional $mathbb{Q}$-vector space $R$.
        But any two positive integers $i$ and $j$ satisfy $J_{i}cap J_{j}=0$ (because
        any endomorphism $Ain R$ that annihilates the two linearly independent
        vectors $e_{i}$ and $e_{j}$ must be the zero map) and therefore $J_{i}
        +J_{j}=R$
        (since $dimleft( J_{i}+J_{j}right) =underbrace{dimleft(
        J_{i}right) }_{=2}+underbrace{dimleft( J_{j}right) }_{=2}
        -underbrace{dimleft( J_{i}cap J_{j}right) }_{=0}=4$
        ). Hence, if your
        conjecture were true, the map $varphi:Rrightarrowleft( R/J_{1}right)
        oplusleft( R/J_{2}right) opluscdotsoplusleft( R/J_{n}right) $

        would be surjective. This would yield $4geq2n$, since this map $varphi$ is a
        $mathbb{Q}$-linear map from a $4$-dimensional $mathbb{Q}$-vector space to a
        $left( 2nright) $-dimensional $mathbb{Q}$-vector space; but this would
        contradict $n>2$.




        Finally, the question you were trying to solve in the last paragraph is a
        consequence of Theorem 1 in https://mathoverflow.net/a/14516/ .






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        The answer that follows is just a detailed version of my comments to the
        original post.



        Your conjecture (that $varphi$ is surjective) is true for each $nleq2$ but
        false for each $ngeq3$. Let me show this. First, let me prove that it is true
        for $n=2$ (for the sake of completeness -- I know that you have a proof):




        Proposition 1. Let $R$ be a (noncommutative, associative, unital) ring.
        Let $U$ and $V$ be two left ideals of $R$ such that $U+V=R$. Let
        $varphi:Rrightarrowleft( R/Uright) oplusleft( R/Vright) $ be the
        map that sends each $rin R$ to $left( r+U,r+Vright) inleft(
        R/Uright) oplusleft( R/Vright) $
        . Then, $varphi$ is a surjective
        $R$-module homomorphism.




        Proof of Proposition 1. It is clear that $varphi$ is an $R$-module
        homomorphism. It thus remains to prove that $varphi$ is surjective.



        We have $1in R=U+V$. In other words, there exist $uin U$ and $vin V$ such
        that $1=u+v$. Consider these $u$ and $v$.



        Let $zinleft( R/Uright) oplusleft( R/Vright) $ be arbitrary. Thus,
        we can write $z$ in the form $z=left( alpha,betaright) $ for some
        $alphain R/U$ and $betain R/V$. Consider these $alpha$ and $beta$.



        We have $alphain R/U$; thus, there exists some $ain R$ such that
        $alpha=a+U$. Consider this $a$.



        We have $betain R/V$; thus, there exists some $bin R$ such that $beta
        =b+V$
        . Consider this $b$.



        Let $x=av+buin R$. Thus,
        begin{align*}
        underbrace{x}_{=av+bu}-underbrace{a}_{substack{=a1=aleft( u+vright)
        \text{(since }1=u+vtext{)}}} & =av+bu-aleft( u+vright) =bu-au=left(
        b-aright) underbrace{u}_{in U}\
        & inleft( b-aright) Usubseteq Uqquadleft( text{since }Utext{ is a
        left ideal of }Rright) ,
        end{align*}

        so that $x+U=a+U=alpha$. Also,
        begin{align*}
        underbrace{x}_{=av+bu}-underbrace{b}_{substack{=b1=bleft( u+vright)
        \text{(since }1=u+vtext{)}}} & =av+bu-bleft( u+vright) =av-bv=left(
        a-bright) underbrace{v}_{in V}\
        & inleft( a-bright) Vsubseteq Vqquadleft( text{since }Vtext{ is a
        left ideal of }Rright) ,
        end{align*}

        so that $x+V=b+V=beta$. Now, the definition of $varphi$ yields
        begin{equation}
        varphileft( xright) =left( underbrace{x+U}_{=alpha},underbrace{x+V}
        _{=beta}right) =left( alpha,betaright) =z.
        end{equation}

        Thus, $z=varphileft( underbrace{x}_{in R}right) invarphileft(
        Rright) $
        .



        Now, forget that we fixed $z$. Thus, we have shown that $zinvarphileft(
        Rright) $
        for each $zinleft( R/Uright) oplusleft( R/Vright) $. In
        other words, the map $varphi$ is surjective. This completes the proof of
        Proposition 1. $blacksquare$



        Proposition 1 shows that your conjecture holds for $n=2$. For $n<2$, it is
        completely obvious (since $varphi$ is a projection map in this case). Now,
        let me disprove your conjecture for $n>2$ using the following example:




        Example 2. Let $n>2$ be an integer. Let $V$ be the $2$-dimensional
        $mathbb{Q}$-vector space $mathbb{Q}^{2}$. For each positive integer $i$, let
        $e_{i}$ be the vector $left( 1,iright) ^{T}in V$. Note that these vectors
        $e_{1},e_{2},e_{3},ldots$ are pairwise linearly independent. Let
        $R=operatorname*{End}nolimits_{mathbb{Q}}Vcongmathbb{Q}^{2times2}$. For
        each positive integer $i$, let $J_{i}$ be the subset $left{ Ain
        R mid Ae_{i}=0right} $
        of $R$. It is clear that all these subsets
        $J_{1},J_{2},J_{3},ldots$ are left ideals of $R$. Moreover, each $J_{i}$ is a
        $2$-dimensional subspace of the $4$-dimensional $mathbb{Q}$-vector space $R$.
        But any two positive integers $i$ and $j$ satisfy $J_{i}cap J_{j}=0$ (because
        any endomorphism $Ain R$ that annihilates the two linearly independent
        vectors $e_{i}$ and $e_{j}$ must be the zero map) and therefore $J_{i}
        +J_{j}=R$
        (since $dimleft( J_{i}+J_{j}right) =underbrace{dimleft(
        J_{i}right) }_{=2}+underbrace{dimleft( J_{j}right) }_{=2}
        -underbrace{dimleft( J_{i}cap J_{j}right) }_{=0}=4$
        ). Hence, if your
        conjecture were true, the map $varphi:Rrightarrowleft( R/J_{1}right)
        oplusleft( R/J_{2}right) opluscdotsoplusleft( R/J_{n}right) $

        would be surjective. This would yield $4geq2n$, since this map $varphi$ is a
        $mathbb{Q}$-linear map from a $4$-dimensional $mathbb{Q}$-vector space to a
        $left( 2nright) $-dimensional $mathbb{Q}$-vector space; but this would
        contradict $n>2$.




        Finally, the question you were trying to solve in the last paragraph is a
        consequence of Theorem 1 in https://mathoverflow.net/a/14516/ .







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