Is there a name for this topological property?











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For a topological space $T=(X, tau)$, then $A subset X$ is $ boxed{quadvphantom{A}quad}$ if there is ${mathscr{T}_alpha } subset tau $ such that




  • for every $a in A$ there is $mathscr{T}_a in {mathscr{T}_alpha }$ such that $a in mathscr{T}_a$, and


  • for every $a, b in A$ with $a neq b$, then $mathscr{T}_a bigcap mathscr{T}_b = emptyset$.



For example, under the usual topology with $X=[0,1]$, then



$ { frac{1}{n+1} mid n in mathbb{N} }$ is $boxed{quadvphantom{A}quad}$, but



$mathbb{Q} cap (0,1)$ is not $boxed{quadvphantom{A}quad}$.










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    This is a rather strong condition. For any $ane b$ of $A$, we must have $bnotinmathscr T_a$, so $A$ must be discrete in the subspace topology.
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For a topological space $T=(X, tau)$, then $A subset X$ is $ boxed{quadvphantom{A}quad}$ if there is ${mathscr{T}_alpha } subset tau $ such that




  • for every $a in A$ there is $mathscr{T}_a in {mathscr{T}_alpha }$ such that $a in mathscr{T}_a$, and


  • for every $a, b in A$ with $a neq b$, then $mathscr{T}_a bigcap mathscr{T}_b = emptyset$.



For example, under the usual topology with $X=[0,1]$, then



$ { frac{1}{n+1} mid n in mathbb{N} }$ is $boxed{quadvphantom{A}quad}$, but



$mathbb{Q} cap (0,1)$ is not $boxed{quadvphantom{A}quad}$.










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    This is a rather strong condition. For any $ane b$ of $A$, we must have $bnotinmathscr T_a$, so $A$ must be discrete in the subspace topology.
    – Berci
    Nov 13 at 8:28













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For a topological space $T=(X, tau)$, then $A subset X$ is $ boxed{quadvphantom{A}quad}$ if there is ${mathscr{T}_alpha } subset tau $ such that




  • for every $a in A$ there is $mathscr{T}_a in {mathscr{T}_alpha }$ such that $a in mathscr{T}_a$, and


  • for every $a, b in A$ with $a neq b$, then $mathscr{T}_a bigcap mathscr{T}_b = emptyset$.



For example, under the usual topology with $X=[0,1]$, then



$ { frac{1}{n+1} mid n in mathbb{N} }$ is $boxed{quadvphantom{A}quad}$, but



$mathbb{Q} cap (0,1)$ is not $boxed{quadvphantom{A}quad}$.










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For a topological space $T=(X, tau)$, then $A subset X$ is $ boxed{quadvphantom{A}quad}$ if there is ${mathscr{T}_alpha } subset tau $ such that




  • for every $a in A$ there is $mathscr{T}_a in {mathscr{T}_alpha }$ such that $a in mathscr{T}_a$, and


  • for every $a, b in A$ with $a neq b$, then $mathscr{T}_a bigcap mathscr{T}_b = emptyset$.



For example, under the usual topology with $X=[0,1]$, then



$ { frac{1}{n+1} mid n in mathbb{N} }$ is $boxed{quadvphantom{A}quad}$, but



$mathbb{Q} cap (0,1)$ is not $boxed{quadvphantom{A}quad}$.







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    This is a rather strong condition. For any $ane b$ of $A$, we must have $bnotinmathscr T_a$, so $A$ must be discrete in the subspace topology.
    – Berci
    Nov 13 at 8:28














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    This is a rather strong condition. For any $ane b$ of $A$, we must have $bnotinmathscr T_a$, so $A$ must be discrete in the subspace topology.
    – Berci
    Nov 13 at 8:28








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This is a rather strong condition. For any $ane b$ of $A$, we must have $bnotinmathscr T_a$, so $A$ must be discrete in the subspace topology.
– Berci
Nov 13 at 8:28




This is a rather strong condition. For any $ane b$ of $A$, we must have $bnotinmathscr T_a$, so $A$ must be discrete in the subspace topology.
– Berci
Nov 13 at 8:28










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It implies $A$ is (relatively) discrete, i.e. discrete in the subspace topology. It's clear that $mathcal{T}_a cap A = {a}$. (BTW, "stylistically" it's better to name the sets $O_a$, say, as $mathcal{T}_a$ will suggest a family of sets rather than just one set.)



If we have totally (i.e. also outside of $A$) disjoint $O_a$ as you demand, you could say that the $O_a$ are "simultaneously separated" (there is no standard term): it's the conclusion when a space is so-called collectionwise Hausdorff: a space is called that when every relatively discrete set $A$ has such a separating family of pairwise disjoint open sets.



E.g. all metric spaces have this property: they are paracompact (which implies collectionwise normal which implies collectionwise Hausdorff).
So in a metric space all discrete sets are "simultaneously separated", and there is no real difference. In general a Hausdorff space need not be collectionwise Hausdorff, and there could be a discrete subspace without such a simultaneous separation. E.g. Bing's "example H" (discussed here) is a classic example of this.



Maybe calling $A$ "strongly discrete" would also be an option. I'm not sure if it's already taken or not. We could then say that $X$ is Collectionwise Hausdorff iff every discrete subspace is strongly discrete (or simultaneously separated). Just a thought.






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  • I think the property is strictly stronger than being relatively discrete.
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    Nov 13 at 8:44










  • @Berci you're right, I expanded my answer.
    – Henno Brandsma
    Nov 13 at 8:54











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It implies $A$ is (relatively) discrete, i.e. discrete in the subspace topology. It's clear that $mathcal{T}_a cap A = {a}$. (BTW, "stylistically" it's better to name the sets $O_a$, say, as $mathcal{T}_a$ will suggest a family of sets rather than just one set.)



If we have totally (i.e. also outside of $A$) disjoint $O_a$ as you demand, you could say that the $O_a$ are "simultaneously separated" (there is no standard term): it's the conclusion when a space is so-called collectionwise Hausdorff: a space is called that when every relatively discrete set $A$ has such a separating family of pairwise disjoint open sets.



E.g. all metric spaces have this property: they are paracompact (which implies collectionwise normal which implies collectionwise Hausdorff).
So in a metric space all discrete sets are "simultaneously separated", and there is no real difference. In general a Hausdorff space need not be collectionwise Hausdorff, and there could be a discrete subspace without such a simultaneous separation. E.g. Bing's "example H" (discussed here) is a classic example of this.



Maybe calling $A$ "strongly discrete" would also be an option. I'm not sure if it's already taken or not. We could then say that $X$ is Collectionwise Hausdorff iff every discrete subspace is strongly discrete (or simultaneously separated). Just a thought.






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  • I think the property is strictly stronger than being relatively discrete.
    – Berci
    Nov 13 at 8:44










  • @Berci you're right, I expanded my answer.
    – Henno Brandsma
    Nov 13 at 8:54















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It implies $A$ is (relatively) discrete, i.e. discrete in the subspace topology. It's clear that $mathcal{T}_a cap A = {a}$. (BTW, "stylistically" it's better to name the sets $O_a$, say, as $mathcal{T}_a$ will suggest a family of sets rather than just one set.)



If we have totally (i.e. also outside of $A$) disjoint $O_a$ as you demand, you could say that the $O_a$ are "simultaneously separated" (there is no standard term): it's the conclusion when a space is so-called collectionwise Hausdorff: a space is called that when every relatively discrete set $A$ has such a separating family of pairwise disjoint open sets.



E.g. all metric spaces have this property: they are paracompact (which implies collectionwise normal which implies collectionwise Hausdorff).
So in a metric space all discrete sets are "simultaneously separated", and there is no real difference. In general a Hausdorff space need not be collectionwise Hausdorff, and there could be a discrete subspace without such a simultaneous separation. E.g. Bing's "example H" (discussed here) is a classic example of this.



Maybe calling $A$ "strongly discrete" would also be an option. I'm not sure if it's already taken or not. We could then say that $X$ is Collectionwise Hausdorff iff every discrete subspace is strongly discrete (or simultaneously separated). Just a thought.






share|cite|improve this answer























  • I think the property is strictly stronger than being relatively discrete.
    – Berci
    Nov 13 at 8:44










  • @Berci you're right, I expanded my answer.
    – Henno Brandsma
    Nov 13 at 8:54













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It implies $A$ is (relatively) discrete, i.e. discrete in the subspace topology. It's clear that $mathcal{T}_a cap A = {a}$. (BTW, "stylistically" it's better to name the sets $O_a$, say, as $mathcal{T}_a$ will suggest a family of sets rather than just one set.)



If we have totally (i.e. also outside of $A$) disjoint $O_a$ as you demand, you could say that the $O_a$ are "simultaneously separated" (there is no standard term): it's the conclusion when a space is so-called collectionwise Hausdorff: a space is called that when every relatively discrete set $A$ has such a separating family of pairwise disjoint open sets.



E.g. all metric spaces have this property: they are paracompact (which implies collectionwise normal which implies collectionwise Hausdorff).
So in a metric space all discrete sets are "simultaneously separated", and there is no real difference. In general a Hausdorff space need not be collectionwise Hausdorff, and there could be a discrete subspace without such a simultaneous separation. E.g. Bing's "example H" (discussed here) is a classic example of this.



Maybe calling $A$ "strongly discrete" would also be an option. I'm not sure if it's already taken or not. We could then say that $X$ is Collectionwise Hausdorff iff every discrete subspace is strongly discrete (or simultaneously separated). Just a thought.






share|cite|improve this answer














It implies $A$ is (relatively) discrete, i.e. discrete in the subspace topology. It's clear that $mathcal{T}_a cap A = {a}$. (BTW, "stylistically" it's better to name the sets $O_a$, say, as $mathcal{T}_a$ will suggest a family of sets rather than just one set.)



If we have totally (i.e. also outside of $A$) disjoint $O_a$ as you demand, you could say that the $O_a$ are "simultaneously separated" (there is no standard term): it's the conclusion when a space is so-called collectionwise Hausdorff: a space is called that when every relatively discrete set $A$ has such a separating family of pairwise disjoint open sets.



E.g. all metric spaces have this property: they are paracompact (which implies collectionwise normal which implies collectionwise Hausdorff).
So in a metric space all discrete sets are "simultaneously separated", and there is no real difference. In general a Hausdorff space need not be collectionwise Hausdorff, and there could be a discrete subspace without such a simultaneous separation. E.g. Bing's "example H" (discussed here) is a classic example of this.



Maybe calling $A$ "strongly discrete" would also be an option. I'm not sure if it's already taken or not. We could then say that $X$ is Collectionwise Hausdorff iff every discrete subspace is strongly discrete (or simultaneously separated). Just a thought.







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  • I think the property is strictly stronger than being relatively discrete.
    – Berci
    Nov 13 at 8:44










  • @Berci you're right, I expanded my answer.
    – Henno Brandsma
    Nov 13 at 8:54


















  • I think the property is strictly stronger than being relatively discrete.
    – Berci
    Nov 13 at 8:44










  • @Berci you're right, I expanded my answer.
    – Henno Brandsma
    Nov 13 at 8:54
















I think the property is strictly stronger than being relatively discrete.
– Berci
Nov 13 at 8:44




I think the property is strictly stronger than being relatively discrete.
– Berci
Nov 13 at 8:44












@Berci you're right, I expanded my answer.
– Henno Brandsma
Nov 13 at 8:54




@Berci you're right, I expanded my answer.
– Henno Brandsma
Nov 13 at 8:54


















 

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