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Since professor has masculine gender, one may think that the phrase should be professor emeritus, regardless of the gender of the person referred to. Is the use of emerita simply a case of grammatical ignorance?










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          In theory, the feminine of professor would be profestrix. However, this is a rather awkward formation, and isn't attested classically—the use of -trix on a dental-stem noun is incredibly rare in any period.



          So most often, in my experience at least, the word professor is used for both the masculine and the feminine. If the professor is female, the noun is feminine, and thus takes a first-declension adjective like emerita. (For a Classical precedent, see gender-neutral third-declension nouns like homo and canis.)






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            By that logic could a female member of the Homo Erectus genus be referred to as a Homo Erecta?
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            @Persistence Scientific names generally don't change their form, but in Latin that wouldn't be incorrect: see this question for some examples of homo used for a woman.
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          To supplement the answer by Draconis, professor is what's called a common gender noun, at least in modern usage.
          This means that the grammatical gender is not fixed, but depends on the semantic gender.
          When referring to a male professor, professor is masculine, and feminine when referring to female.
          I would consider it impolite in today's world to use professor as purely masculine word for professors of all genders.



          The form professor emerita is correct.
          While there is the feminine option profestrix emerita, this form is not really used.
          The word profestrix is the Latin equivalent of the French professeure, but appears to be far less common.



          Feminine forms such as doctrix and lectrix have been used and are in no way inappropriate for female academicians.
          However, it appears to be more common to use the (seemingly) masculine words doctor, lector, and professor instead.






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          • It seems women have been teaching since the origin of mediaeval universities. It would be interesting to find some written evidence of their titles. I had a go but failed. Maybe you are a better searcher than me.
            – luchonacho
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          • @luchonacho I edited my answer a bit. This old question has an example which might be in the spirit of what you are looking for. I would be interested to see follow-up questions on the topic, though.
            – Joonas Ilmavirta
            Nov 12 at 13:57










          • "I would consider it impolite in today's world to use professor as purely masculine word for professors of all genders." That is surely English specific. But can perhaps be extended to Latin.
            – Vladimir F
            Nov 12 at 14:59










          • @VladimirF That is certainly a matter of opinion, and I was very conscious about prefacing it with "I would consider". But since Latin does not force professor to be exclusively masculine, I would find it inappropriate to treat it as exclusively masculine in this day and age. Different languages and different people might come to other conclusions.
            – Joonas Ilmavirta
            Nov 12 at 15:20










          • @luchonacho magistra is classically attested. Considering that in medieval universities magister was the title for the highest teachers, that might be a better route to go.
            – brianpck
            Nov 12 at 16:13


















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          We normally distinguish between nouns of “common gender”, which can be used either as masculine or as feminine depending on the sex of the person or animal in question, and “epicene nouns", which have a fixed gender, but can refer to creatures of either sex. If “professor” is treated as epicene, then one would have to say “professor emeritus” for a person of either sex, at least in (Neo-)Latin.



          In English there are no gendered forms for adjectives, so there is no reason not to say “emeritus professor” in reference to a woman in an English context.



          In Germany there has been a heated debate over whether a female professor should be styled “Professor” or “Professorin”. In lecture lists of German universities you now normally find just “Prof.” - one way to dodge the question.






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            In theory, the feminine of professor would be profestrix. However, this is a rather awkward formation, and isn't attested classically—the use of -trix on a dental-stem noun is incredibly rare in any period.



            So most often, in my experience at least, the word professor is used for both the masculine and the feminine. If the professor is female, the noun is feminine, and thus takes a first-declension adjective like emerita. (For a Classical precedent, see gender-neutral third-declension nouns like homo and canis.)






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              By that logic could a female member of the Homo Erectus genus be referred to as a Homo Erecta?
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              @Persistence Scientific names generally don't change their form, but in Latin that wouldn't be incorrect: see this question for some examples of homo used for a woman.
              – Draconis
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            • @Persistence It would be nice to have a separate question about that so people could find the answer easily.
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            In theory, the feminine of professor would be profestrix. However, this is a rather awkward formation, and isn't attested classically—the use of -trix on a dental-stem noun is incredibly rare in any period.



            So most often, in my experience at least, the word professor is used for both the masculine and the feminine. If the professor is female, the noun is feminine, and thus takes a first-declension adjective like emerita. (For a Classical precedent, see gender-neutral third-declension nouns like homo and canis.)






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              By that logic could a female member of the Homo Erectus genus be referred to as a Homo Erecta?
              – Persistence
              Nov 12 at 21:37






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              @Persistence Scientific names generally don't change their form, but in Latin that wouldn't be incorrect: see this question for some examples of homo used for a woman.
              – Draconis
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            • @Persistence It would be nice to have a separate question about that so people could find the answer easily.
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            In theory, the feminine of professor would be profestrix. However, this is a rather awkward formation, and isn't attested classically—the use of -trix on a dental-stem noun is incredibly rare in any period.



            So most often, in my experience at least, the word professor is used for both the masculine and the feminine. If the professor is female, the noun is feminine, and thus takes a first-declension adjective like emerita. (For a Classical precedent, see gender-neutral third-declension nouns like homo and canis.)






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            In theory, the feminine of professor would be profestrix. However, this is a rather awkward formation, and isn't attested classically—the use of -trix on a dental-stem noun is incredibly rare in any period.



            So most often, in my experience at least, the word professor is used for both the masculine and the feminine. If the professor is female, the noun is feminine, and thus takes a first-declension adjective like emerita. (For a Classical precedent, see gender-neutral third-declension nouns like homo and canis.)







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              By that logic could a female member of the Homo Erectus genus be referred to as a Homo Erecta?
              – Persistence
              Nov 12 at 21:37






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              @Persistence Scientific names generally don't change their form, but in Latin that wouldn't be incorrect: see this question for some examples of homo used for a woman.
              – Draconis
              Nov 12 at 21:41












            • @Persistence It would be nice to have a separate question about that so people could find the answer easily.
              – Joonas Ilmavirta
              Nov 13 at 7:15














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              By that logic could a female member of the Homo Erectus genus be referred to as a Homo Erecta?
              – Persistence
              Nov 12 at 21:37






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              @Persistence Scientific names generally don't change their form, but in Latin that wouldn't be incorrect: see this question for some examples of homo used for a woman.
              – Draconis
              Nov 12 at 21:41












            • @Persistence It would be nice to have a separate question about that so people could find the answer easily.
              – Joonas Ilmavirta
              Nov 13 at 7:15








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            By that logic could a female member of the Homo Erectus genus be referred to as a Homo Erecta?
            – Persistence
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            By that logic could a female member of the Homo Erectus genus be referred to as a Homo Erecta?
            – Persistence
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            @Persistence Scientific names generally don't change their form, but in Latin that wouldn't be incorrect: see this question for some examples of homo used for a woman.
            – Draconis
            Nov 12 at 21:41






            @Persistence Scientific names generally don't change their form, but in Latin that wouldn't be incorrect: see this question for some examples of homo used for a woman.
            – Draconis
            Nov 12 at 21:41














            @Persistence It would be nice to have a separate question about that so people could find the answer easily.
            – Joonas Ilmavirta
            Nov 13 at 7:15




            @Persistence It would be nice to have a separate question about that so people could find the answer easily.
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            To supplement the answer by Draconis, professor is what's called a common gender noun, at least in modern usage.
            This means that the grammatical gender is not fixed, but depends on the semantic gender.
            When referring to a male professor, professor is masculine, and feminine when referring to female.
            I would consider it impolite in today's world to use professor as purely masculine word for professors of all genders.



            The form professor emerita is correct.
            While there is the feminine option profestrix emerita, this form is not really used.
            The word profestrix is the Latin equivalent of the French professeure, but appears to be far less common.



            Feminine forms such as doctrix and lectrix have been used and are in no way inappropriate for female academicians.
            However, it appears to be more common to use the (seemingly) masculine words doctor, lector, and professor instead.






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            • It seems women have been teaching since the origin of mediaeval universities. It would be interesting to find some written evidence of their titles. I had a go but failed. Maybe you are a better searcher than me.
              – luchonacho
              Nov 12 at 11:57










            • @luchonacho I edited my answer a bit. This old question has an example which might be in the spirit of what you are looking for. I would be interested to see follow-up questions on the topic, though.
              – Joonas Ilmavirta
              Nov 12 at 13:57










            • "I would consider it impolite in today's world to use professor as purely masculine word for professors of all genders." That is surely English specific. But can perhaps be extended to Latin.
              – Vladimir F
              Nov 12 at 14:59










            • @VladimirF That is certainly a matter of opinion, and I was very conscious about prefacing it with "I would consider". But since Latin does not force professor to be exclusively masculine, I would find it inappropriate to treat it as exclusively masculine in this day and age. Different languages and different people might come to other conclusions.
              – Joonas Ilmavirta
              Nov 12 at 15:20










            • @luchonacho magistra is classically attested. Considering that in medieval universities magister was the title for the highest teachers, that might be a better route to go.
              – brianpck
              Nov 12 at 16:13















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            To supplement the answer by Draconis, professor is what's called a common gender noun, at least in modern usage.
            This means that the grammatical gender is not fixed, but depends on the semantic gender.
            When referring to a male professor, professor is masculine, and feminine when referring to female.
            I would consider it impolite in today's world to use professor as purely masculine word for professors of all genders.



            The form professor emerita is correct.
            While there is the feminine option profestrix emerita, this form is not really used.
            The word profestrix is the Latin equivalent of the French professeure, but appears to be far less common.



            Feminine forms such as doctrix and lectrix have been used and are in no way inappropriate for female academicians.
            However, it appears to be more common to use the (seemingly) masculine words doctor, lector, and professor instead.






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            • It seems women have been teaching since the origin of mediaeval universities. It would be interesting to find some written evidence of their titles. I had a go but failed. Maybe you are a better searcher than me.
              – luchonacho
              Nov 12 at 11:57










            • @luchonacho I edited my answer a bit. This old question has an example which might be in the spirit of what you are looking for. I would be interested to see follow-up questions on the topic, though.
              – Joonas Ilmavirta
              Nov 12 at 13:57










            • "I would consider it impolite in today's world to use professor as purely masculine word for professors of all genders." That is surely English specific. But can perhaps be extended to Latin.
              – Vladimir F
              Nov 12 at 14:59










            • @VladimirF That is certainly a matter of opinion, and I was very conscious about prefacing it with "I would consider". But since Latin does not force professor to be exclusively masculine, I would find it inappropriate to treat it as exclusively masculine in this day and age. Different languages and different people might come to other conclusions.
              – Joonas Ilmavirta
              Nov 12 at 15:20










            • @luchonacho magistra is classically attested. Considering that in medieval universities magister was the title for the highest teachers, that might be a better route to go.
              – brianpck
              Nov 12 at 16:13













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            To supplement the answer by Draconis, professor is what's called a common gender noun, at least in modern usage.
            This means that the grammatical gender is not fixed, but depends on the semantic gender.
            When referring to a male professor, professor is masculine, and feminine when referring to female.
            I would consider it impolite in today's world to use professor as purely masculine word for professors of all genders.



            The form professor emerita is correct.
            While there is the feminine option profestrix emerita, this form is not really used.
            The word profestrix is the Latin equivalent of the French professeure, but appears to be far less common.



            Feminine forms such as doctrix and lectrix have been used and are in no way inappropriate for female academicians.
            However, it appears to be more common to use the (seemingly) masculine words doctor, lector, and professor instead.






            share|improve this answer














            To supplement the answer by Draconis, professor is what's called a common gender noun, at least in modern usage.
            This means that the grammatical gender is not fixed, but depends on the semantic gender.
            When referring to a male professor, professor is masculine, and feminine when referring to female.
            I would consider it impolite in today's world to use professor as purely masculine word for professors of all genders.



            The form professor emerita is correct.
            While there is the feminine option profestrix emerita, this form is not really used.
            The word profestrix is the Latin equivalent of the French professeure, but appears to be far less common.



            Feminine forms such as doctrix and lectrix have been used and are in no way inappropriate for female academicians.
            However, it appears to be more common to use the (seemingly) masculine words doctor, lector, and professor instead.







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            • It seems women have been teaching since the origin of mediaeval universities. It would be interesting to find some written evidence of their titles. I had a go but failed. Maybe you are a better searcher than me.
              – luchonacho
              Nov 12 at 11:57










            • @luchonacho I edited my answer a bit. This old question has an example which might be in the spirit of what you are looking for. I would be interested to see follow-up questions on the topic, though.
              – Joonas Ilmavirta
              Nov 12 at 13:57










            • "I would consider it impolite in today's world to use professor as purely masculine word for professors of all genders." That is surely English specific. But can perhaps be extended to Latin.
              – Vladimir F
              Nov 12 at 14:59










            • @VladimirF That is certainly a matter of opinion, and I was very conscious about prefacing it with "I would consider". But since Latin does not force professor to be exclusively masculine, I would find it inappropriate to treat it as exclusively masculine in this day and age. Different languages and different people might come to other conclusions.
              – Joonas Ilmavirta
              Nov 12 at 15:20










            • @luchonacho magistra is classically attested. Considering that in medieval universities magister was the title for the highest teachers, that might be a better route to go.
              – brianpck
              Nov 12 at 16:13


















            • It seems women have been teaching since the origin of mediaeval universities. It would be interesting to find some written evidence of their titles. I had a go but failed. Maybe you are a better searcher than me.
              – luchonacho
              Nov 12 at 11:57










            • @luchonacho I edited my answer a bit. This old question has an example which might be in the spirit of what you are looking for. I would be interested to see follow-up questions on the topic, though.
              – Joonas Ilmavirta
              Nov 12 at 13:57










            • "I would consider it impolite in today's world to use professor as purely masculine word for professors of all genders." That is surely English specific. But can perhaps be extended to Latin.
              – Vladimir F
              Nov 12 at 14:59










            • @VladimirF That is certainly a matter of opinion, and I was very conscious about prefacing it with "I would consider". But since Latin does not force professor to be exclusively masculine, I would find it inappropriate to treat it as exclusively masculine in this day and age. Different languages and different people might come to other conclusions.
              – Joonas Ilmavirta
              Nov 12 at 15:20










            • @luchonacho magistra is classically attested. Considering that in medieval universities magister was the title for the highest teachers, that might be a better route to go.
              – brianpck
              Nov 12 at 16:13
















            It seems women have been teaching since the origin of mediaeval universities. It would be interesting to find some written evidence of their titles. I had a go but failed. Maybe you are a better searcher than me.
            – luchonacho
            Nov 12 at 11:57




            It seems women have been teaching since the origin of mediaeval universities. It would be interesting to find some written evidence of their titles. I had a go but failed. Maybe you are a better searcher than me.
            – luchonacho
            Nov 12 at 11:57












            @luchonacho I edited my answer a bit. This old question has an example which might be in the spirit of what you are looking for. I would be interested to see follow-up questions on the topic, though.
            – Joonas Ilmavirta
            Nov 12 at 13:57




            @luchonacho I edited my answer a bit. This old question has an example which might be in the spirit of what you are looking for. I would be interested to see follow-up questions on the topic, though.
            – Joonas Ilmavirta
            Nov 12 at 13:57












            "I would consider it impolite in today's world to use professor as purely masculine word for professors of all genders." That is surely English specific. But can perhaps be extended to Latin.
            – Vladimir F
            Nov 12 at 14:59




            "I would consider it impolite in today's world to use professor as purely masculine word for professors of all genders." That is surely English specific. But can perhaps be extended to Latin.
            – Vladimir F
            Nov 12 at 14:59












            @VladimirF That is certainly a matter of opinion, and I was very conscious about prefacing it with "I would consider". But since Latin does not force professor to be exclusively masculine, I would find it inappropriate to treat it as exclusively masculine in this day and age. Different languages and different people might come to other conclusions.
            – Joonas Ilmavirta
            Nov 12 at 15:20




            @VladimirF That is certainly a matter of opinion, and I was very conscious about prefacing it with "I would consider". But since Latin does not force professor to be exclusively masculine, I would find it inappropriate to treat it as exclusively masculine in this day and age. Different languages and different people might come to other conclusions.
            – Joonas Ilmavirta
            Nov 12 at 15:20












            @luchonacho magistra is classically attested. Considering that in medieval universities magister was the title for the highest teachers, that might be a better route to go.
            – brianpck
            Nov 12 at 16:13




            @luchonacho magistra is classically attested. Considering that in medieval universities magister was the title for the highest teachers, that might be a better route to go.
            – brianpck
            Nov 12 at 16:13










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            We normally distinguish between nouns of “common gender”, which can be used either as masculine or as feminine depending on the sex of the person or animal in question, and “epicene nouns", which have a fixed gender, but can refer to creatures of either sex. If “professor” is treated as epicene, then one would have to say “professor emeritus” for a person of either sex, at least in (Neo-)Latin.



            In English there are no gendered forms for adjectives, so there is no reason not to say “emeritus professor” in reference to a woman in an English context.



            In Germany there has been a heated debate over whether a female professor should be styled “Professor” or “Professorin”. In lecture lists of German universities you now normally find just “Prof.” - one way to dodge the question.






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              We normally distinguish between nouns of “common gender”, which can be used either as masculine or as feminine depending on the sex of the person or animal in question, and “epicene nouns", which have a fixed gender, but can refer to creatures of either sex. If “professor” is treated as epicene, then one would have to say “professor emeritus” for a person of either sex, at least in (Neo-)Latin.



              In English there are no gendered forms for adjectives, so there is no reason not to say “emeritus professor” in reference to a woman in an English context.



              In Germany there has been a heated debate over whether a female professor should be styled “Professor” or “Professorin”. In lecture lists of German universities you now normally find just “Prof.” - one way to dodge the question.






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                We normally distinguish between nouns of “common gender”, which can be used either as masculine or as feminine depending on the sex of the person or animal in question, and “epicene nouns", which have a fixed gender, but can refer to creatures of either sex. If “professor” is treated as epicene, then one would have to say “professor emeritus” for a person of either sex, at least in (Neo-)Latin.



                In English there are no gendered forms for adjectives, so there is no reason not to say “emeritus professor” in reference to a woman in an English context.



                In Germany there has been a heated debate over whether a female professor should be styled “Professor” or “Professorin”. In lecture lists of German universities you now normally find just “Prof.” - one way to dodge the question.






                share|improve this answer












                We normally distinguish between nouns of “common gender”, which can be used either as masculine or as feminine depending on the sex of the person or animal in question, and “epicene nouns", which have a fixed gender, but can refer to creatures of either sex. If “professor” is treated as epicene, then one would have to say “professor emeritus” for a person of either sex, at least in (Neo-)Latin.



                In English there are no gendered forms for adjectives, so there is no reason not to say “emeritus professor” in reference to a woman in an English context.



                In Germany there has been a heated debate over whether a female professor should be styled “Professor” or “Professorin”. In lecture lists of German universities you now normally find just “Prof.” - one way to dodge the question.







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