Xindy seems to ignore sort-rules in custom .xdy file
So I am trying the change the way xindy is sorting umlauts in an index file by prescribing custom sort-rules.
This is the myfile.xdy that I use:
(require "lang/german/duden-utf8-lang.xdy")
(sort-rule "Ä" "Ae")
(sort-rule "Ö" "Oe")
(sort-rule "Ü" "Ue")
(sort-rule "ä" "ae")
(sort-rule "ö" "oe")
(sort-rule "ü" "ue")
And here is a minimal example for a document:
documentclass{article}
usepackage{fontspec}
usepackage[ngerman]{babel}
usepackage[xindy, splitindex]{imakeidx}
defxindylangopt{-M lang/german/myfile}
makeindex[name=test, options=xindylangopt]
begin{document}
foo index[test]{Aal} index[test]{Aeal} index[test]{Äal} index[test]{Abal} index[test]{Afal}
index[test]{Ual} index[test]{Ueal} index[test]{Üal} index[test]{Ubal} index[test]{Ufal}
index[test]{Oal} index[test]{Oeal} index[test]{Öal} index[test]{Obal} index[test]{Ofal}
printindex[test]
end{document}
This is what the output looks like:
But this is still the original sorting where the umlauts are treated as if they were their respective vocal, i.e. 'Ä' is treated as 'A' and so on. What I would like is that they are treated as their respective vocal followed by the letter 'e', i.e. 'Äal' would be placed between 'Aeal' and 'Afal' in this example. What am I doing wrong? Can the sorting rules not be overwriten like that? Do I even need a custom file for this or are there already native modules that do this kind of sorting?
sorting xindy
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So I am trying the change the way xindy is sorting umlauts in an index file by prescribing custom sort-rules.
This is the myfile.xdy that I use:
(require "lang/german/duden-utf8-lang.xdy")
(sort-rule "Ä" "Ae")
(sort-rule "Ö" "Oe")
(sort-rule "Ü" "Ue")
(sort-rule "ä" "ae")
(sort-rule "ö" "oe")
(sort-rule "ü" "ue")
And here is a minimal example for a document:
documentclass{article}
usepackage{fontspec}
usepackage[ngerman]{babel}
usepackage[xindy, splitindex]{imakeidx}
defxindylangopt{-M lang/german/myfile}
makeindex[name=test, options=xindylangopt]
begin{document}
foo index[test]{Aal} index[test]{Aeal} index[test]{Äal} index[test]{Abal} index[test]{Afal}
index[test]{Ual} index[test]{Ueal} index[test]{Üal} index[test]{Ubal} index[test]{Ufal}
index[test]{Oal} index[test]{Oeal} index[test]{Öal} index[test]{Obal} index[test]{Ofal}
printindex[test]
end{document}
This is what the output looks like:
But this is still the original sorting where the umlauts are treated as if they were their respective vocal, i.e. 'Ä' is treated as 'A' and so on. What I would like is that they are treated as their respective vocal followed by the letter 'e', i.e. 'Äal' would be placed between 'Aeal' and 'Afal' in this example. What am I doing wrong? Can the sorting rules not be overwriten like that? Do I even need a custom file for this or are there already native modules that do this kind of sorting?
sorting xindy
asked Mar 2 at 22:19
mapfmapf
113
Welcome to TeX.SE!
– Kurt
Mar 2 at 22:25
In your case(require "lang/german/din5007-utf8-lang.xdy")should be sufficient. Unfortunately,xindyreplaces readable letters by some opaque bytes for sorting (you can see it in anylang/german/*-utf8.xdy), so altering sorting rules by a user becomes complicated.
– Sergei Golovan
Mar 3 at 7:49
Amazing, this seems to do the trick! I see, I already looked at some of the standard modules and was very confused by all these weird symbols and prefixes. I wonder why they do it that way. Xindy syntax seems rather outdated.
– mapf
Mar 3 at 8:46
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So I am trying the change the way xindy is sorting umlauts in an index file by prescribing custom sort-rules.
This is the myfile.xdy that I use:
(require "lang/german/duden-utf8-lang.xdy")
(sort-rule "Ä" "Ae")
(sort-rule "Ö" "Oe")
(sort-rule "Ü" "Ue")
(sort-rule "ä" "ae")
(sort-rule "ö" "oe")
(sort-rule "ü" "ue")
And here is a minimal example for a document:
documentclass{article}
usepackage{fontspec}
usepackage[ngerman]{babel}
usepackage[xindy, splitindex]{imakeidx}
defxindylangopt{-M lang/german/myfile}
makeindex[name=test, options=xindylangopt]
begin{document}
foo index[test]{Aal} index[test]{Aeal} index[test]{Äal} index[test]{Abal} index[test]{Afal}
index[test]{Ual} index[test]{Ueal} index[test]{Üal} index[test]{Ubal} index[test]{Ufal}
index[test]{Oal} index[test]{Oeal} index[test]{Öal} index[test]{Obal} index[test]{Ofal}
printindex[test]
end{document}
This is what the output looks like:
But this is still the original sorting where the umlauts are treated as if they were their respective vocal, i.e. 'Ä' is treated as 'A' and so on. What I would like is that they are treated as their respective vocal followed by the letter 'e', i.e. 'Äal' would be placed between 'Aeal' and 'Afal' in this example. What am I doing wrong? Can the sorting rules not be overwriten like that? Do I even need a custom file for this or are there already native modules that do this kind of sorting?
sorting xindy
asked Mar 2 at 22:19
mapfmapf
113
So I am trying the change the way xindy is sorting umlauts in an index file by prescribing custom sort-rules.
This is the myfile.xdy that I use:
(require "lang/german/duden-utf8-lang.xdy")
(sort-rule "Ä" "Ae")
(sort-rule "Ö" "Oe")
(sort-rule "Ü" "Ue")
(sort-rule "ä" "ae")
(sort-rule "ö" "oe")
(sort-rule "ü" "ue")
And here is a minimal example for a document:
documentclass{article}
usepackage{fontspec}
usepackage[ngerman]{babel}
usepackage[xindy, splitindex]{imakeidx}
defxindylangopt{-M lang/german/myfile}
makeindex[name=test, options=xindylangopt]
begin{document}
foo index[test]{Aal} index[test]{Aeal} index[test]{Äal} index[test]{Abal} index[test]{Afal}
index[test]{Ual} index[test]{Ueal} index[test]{Üal} index[test]{Ubal} index[test]{Ufal}
index[test]{Oal} index[test]{Oeal} index[test]{Öal} index[test]{Obal} index[test]{Ofal}
printindex[test]
end{document}
This is what the output looks like:
But this is still the original sorting where the umlauts are treated as if they were their respective vocal, i.e. 'Ä' is treated as 'A' and so on. What I would like is that they are treated as their respective vocal followed by the letter 'e', i.e. 'Äal' would be placed between 'Aeal' and 'Afal' in this example. What am I doing wrong? Can the sorting rules not be overwriten like that? Do I even need a custom file for this or are there already native modules that do this kind of sorting?
sorting xindy
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Welcome to TeX.SE!
– Kurt
Mar 2 at 22:25
In your case(require "lang/german/din5007-utf8-lang.xdy")should be sufficient. Unfortunately,xindyreplaces readable letters by some opaque bytes for sorting (you can see it in anylang/german/*-utf8.xdy), so altering sorting rules by a user becomes complicated.
– Sergei Golovan
Mar 3 at 7:49
Amazing, this seems to do the trick! I see, I already looked at some of the standard modules and was very confused by all these weird symbols and prefixes. I wonder why they do it that way. Xindy syntax seems rather outdated.
– mapf
Mar 3 at 8:46
add a comment |
Welcome to TeX.SE!
– Kurt
Mar 2 at 22:25
In your case(require "lang/german/din5007-utf8-lang.xdy")should be sufficient. Unfortunately,xindyreplaces readable letters by some opaque bytes for sorting (you can see it in anylang/german/*-utf8.xdy), so altering sorting rules by a user becomes complicated.
– Sergei Golovan
Mar 3 at 7:49
Amazing, this seems to do the trick! I see, I already looked at some of the standard modules and was very confused by all these weird symbols and prefixes. I wonder why they do it that way. Xindy syntax seems rather outdated.
– mapf
Mar 3 at 8:46
Welcome to TeX.SE!
– Kurt
Mar 2 at 22:25
Welcome to TeX.SE!
– Kurt
Mar 2 at 22:25
In your case
(require "lang/german/din5007-utf8-lang.xdy") should be sufficient. Unfortunately, xindy replaces readable letters by some opaque bytes for sorting (you can see it in any lang/german/*-utf8.xdy), so altering sorting rules by a user becomes complicated.– Sergei Golovan
Mar 3 at 7:49
In your case
(require "lang/german/din5007-utf8-lang.xdy") should be sufficient. Unfortunately, xindy replaces readable letters by some opaque bytes for sorting (you can see it in any lang/german/*-utf8.xdy), so altering sorting rules by a user becomes complicated.– Sergei Golovan
Mar 3 at 7:49
Amazing, this seems to do the trick! I see, I already looked at some of the standard modules and was very confused by all these weird symbols and prefixes. I wonder why they do it that way. Xindy syntax seems rather outdated.
– mapf
Mar 3 at 8:46
Amazing, this seems to do the trick! I see, I already looked at some of the standard modules and was very confused by all these weird symbols and prefixes. I wonder why they do it that way. Xindy syntax seems rather outdated.
– mapf
Mar 3 at 8:46
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Thanks to @Sergei Golovan, a solution was found. It appears to be sufficient to use the din5007-utf8-lang.xdy-module instead of the duden-utf8-lang.xdy-module as a basis, since the din5007-utf8-lang.xdy-module already sorts the umlauts the way that I was trying to achive. So in case other changes should still be applied to the sorting, the required module needs to be adjusted.
myfile.xdy:
(require "lang/german/din5007-utf8-lang.xdy")
some other custom sort-rules
If no other changes to the sorting need to be applied, it is sufficient to change the xindy language options in the document like so:
defxindylangopt{-M lang/german/din5007-utf8-lang}
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Thanks to @Sergei Golovan, a solution was found. It appears to be sufficient to use the din5007-utf8-lang.xdy-module instead of the duden-utf8-lang.xdy-module as a basis, since the din5007-utf8-lang.xdy-module already sorts the umlauts the way that I was trying to achive. So in case other changes should still be applied to the sorting, the required module needs to be adjusted.
myfile.xdy:
(require "lang/german/din5007-utf8-lang.xdy")
some other custom sort-rules
If no other changes to the sorting need to be applied, it is sufficient to change the xindy language options in the document like so:
defxindylangopt{-M lang/german/din5007-utf8-lang}
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Thanks to @Sergei Golovan, a solution was found. It appears to be sufficient to use the din5007-utf8-lang.xdy-module instead of the duden-utf8-lang.xdy-module as a basis, since the din5007-utf8-lang.xdy-module already sorts the umlauts the way that I was trying to achive. So in case other changes should still be applied to the sorting, the required module needs to be adjusted.
myfile.xdy:
(require "lang/german/din5007-utf8-lang.xdy")
some other custom sort-rules
If no other changes to the sorting need to be applied, it is sufficient to change the xindy language options in the document like so:
defxindylangopt{-M lang/german/din5007-utf8-lang}
answered Mar 3 at 8:55
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Thanks to @Sergei Golovan, a solution was found. It appears to be sufficient to use the din5007-utf8-lang.xdy-module instead of the duden-utf8-lang.xdy-module as a basis, since the din5007-utf8-lang.xdy-module already sorts the umlauts the way that I was trying to achive. So in case other changes should still be applied to the sorting, the required module needs to be adjusted.
myfile.xdy:
(require "lang/german/din5007-utf8-lang.xdy")
some other custom sort-rules
If no other changes to the sorting need to be applied, it is sufficient to change the xindy language options in the document like so:
defxindylangopt{-M lang/german/din5007-utf8-lang}
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Thanks to @Sergei Golovan, a solution was found. It appears to be sufficient to use the din5007-utf8-lang.xdy-module instead of the duden-utf8-lang.xdy-module as a basis, since the din5007-utf8-lang.xdy-module already sorts the umlauts the way that I was trying to achive. So in case other changes should still be applied to the sorting, the required module needs to be adjusted.
myfile.xdy:
(require "lang/german/din5007-utf8-lang.xdy")
some other custom sort-rules
If no other changes to the sorting need to be applied, it is sufficient to change the xindy language options in the document like so:
defxindylangopt{-M lang/german/din5007-utf8-lang}
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– Kurt
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In your case
(require "lang/german/din5007-utf8-lang.xdy")should be sufficient. Unfortunately,xindyreplaces readable letters by some opaque bytes for sorting (you can see it in anylang/german/*-utf8.xdy), so altering sorting rules by a user becomes complicated.– Sergei Golovan
Mar 3 at 7:49
Amazing, this seems to do the trick! I see, I already looked at some of the standard modules and was very confused by all these weird symbols and prefixes. I wonder why they do it that way. Xindy syntax seems rather outdated.
– mapf
Mar 3 at 8:46