Show that $g(x)=[frac1x]sin x$ has a limit in $x=0$.
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Show that $g(x)=left[frac1x right]sin x$ has a limit in $x=0$.
( $[1/x]$ as greatest integer less than or equal to $1/x$)
I tried to use squeeze theory to find the limit of this function, but I can’t find two another functions which have obvious limits.
I know how to evaluate a limit when we have 0*bounded function, but in this case, the function isn’t bounded .
I know :
$$frac{1}{x}-1leleft[frac{1}{x}right]lefrac{1}{x},xnot=0.$$
And I know :
$$lim_{xrightarrow 0} frac{1}{x}sin(x)=1$$
I just don’t know how to use this stuffs to solve the question.
Thanks in advance fo the help .
calculus limits floor-function
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Show that $g(x)=left[frac1x right]sin x$ has a limit in $x=0$.
( $[1/x]$ as greatest integer less than or equal to $1/x$)
I tried to use squeeze theory to find the limit of this function, but I can’t find two another functions which have obvious limits.
I know how to evaluate a limit when we have 0*bounded function, but in this case, the function isn’t bounded .
I know :
$$frac{1}{x}-1leleft[frac{1}{x}right]lefrac{1}{x},xnot=0.$$
And I know :
$$lim_{xrightarrow 0} frac{1}{x}sin(x)=1$$
I just don’t know how to use this stuffs to solve the question.
Thanks in advance fo the help .
calculus limits floor-function
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Show that $g(x)=left[frac1x right]sin x$ has a limit in $x=0$.
( $[1/x]$ as greatest integer less than or equal to $1/x$)
I tried to use squeeze theory to find the limit of this function, but I can’t find two another functions which have obvious limits.
I know how to evaluate a limit when we have 0*bounded function, but in this case, the function isn’t bounded .
I know :
$$frac{1}{x}-1leleft[frac{1}{x}right]lefrac{1}{x},xnot=0.$$
And I know :
$$lim_{xrightarrow 0} frac{1}{x}sin(x)=1$$
I just don’t know how to use this stuffs to solve the question.
Thanks in advance fo the help .
calculus limits floor-function
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Show that $g(x)=left[frac1x right]sin x$ has a limit in $x=0$.
( $[1/x]$ as greatest integer less than or equal to $1/x$)
I tried to use squeeze theory to find the limit of this function, but I can’t find two another functions which have obvious limits.
I know how to evaluate a limit when we have 0*bounded function, but in this case, the function isn’t bounded .
I know :
$$frac{1}{x}-1leleft[frac{1}{x}right]lefrac{1}{x},xnot=0.$$
And I know :
$$lim_{xrightarrow 0} frac{1}{x}sin(x)=1$$
I just don’t know how to use this stuffs to solve the question.
Thanks in advance fo the help .
calculus limits floor-function
calculus limits floor-function
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If you mean $[1/x]$ as greatest integer less than or equal to $1/x$ then for sufficiently small $x>0$ we have $$left(frac{1}{x}-1right)sin(x)≤[frac{1}{x}]sin(x)≤frac{1}{x} sin(x)$$ since $$frac{1}{x}-1≤[frac{1}{x}]≤frac{1}{x},xnot=0.$$ Also for sufficiently small $x<0$ we have $$left(frac1x-1right)sin(x)≥[frac{1}{x}]sin(x)≥frac{1}{x} sin(x).$$ Now $$lim_{xrightarrow 0} frac{1}{x}sin(x)=1$$ and $$lim_{xrightarrow0}sin(x)=0.$$ Hence $$lim_{xrightarrow 0}[frac1x]sin(x)=1.$$
The function $sin$ is positive for small positive numbers and negative for small negative numbers.
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Let's start with the more famous problem, finding the limit of frac{sin x}{x}. Since $frac{sin x}{x}$ is even, we need only verify $lim_{xto 0^+}frac{sin x}{x}=1$. Draw a small angle $x$ between two length-$1$ radii $OA,,OB$ of a centre-$O$ circle $gamma$. Extend $OA$ through $A$ to meet the tangent-at-$B$ $ell$ to $gamma$ at $C$. The vertices $O,,A,,B$ are those of an area-$frac{1}{2}tan x$ triangle and an area-$frac{x}{2}$ sector, and the right-angled $triangle OAC$ has area $frac{1}{2}tan x$. Thus $$0lefrac{sin x}{x}le 1lefrac{tan x}{x}.$$Multiplying by $cos^{pm 1}x$ (which is positive), $$0lecos xlefrac{sin x}{x}le 1lefrac{tan x}{x}lesec x.$$(For example, get $cos xlefrac{sin x}{x}$ from $1lefrac{tan x}{x}$.) Since $cos xto 1$, the squeeze theorem finishes the proof.
Now for the problem at hand. We've subtract at most $|sin x|$ from the function considered above, but $sin xto 0$.
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The OP is about the integer part [1/x].
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– gimusi
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@gimusi My answer gets to that at the end because the first draft was written before that was clarified.
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You are mostly done, indeed since by floor function definition we have
$$frac1x-1leleft[frac1xright]le frac1x$$
then assuming wlog $0<x<1$
$$ left(frac1x-1right)cdotsin xleleft[frac1xright]cdotsin xle frac1xcdotsin x$$
and then use squeeze theorem.
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If you mean $[1/x]$ as greatest integer less than or equal to $1/x$ then for sufficiently small $x>0$ we have $$left(frac{1}{x}-1right)sin(x)≤[frac{1}{x}]sin(x)≤frac{1}{x} sin(x)$$ since $$frac{1}{x}-1≤[frac{1}{x}]≤frac{1}{x},xnot=0.$$ Also for sufficiently small $x<0$ we have $$left(frac1x-1right)sin(x)≥[frac{1}{x}]sin(x)≥frac{1}{x} sin(x).$$ Now $$lim_{xrightarrow 0} frac{1}{x}sin(x)=1$$ and $$lim_{xrightarrow0}sin(x)=0.$$ Hence $$lim_{xrightarrow 0}[frac1x]sin(x)=1.$$
The function $sin$ is positive for small positive numbers and negative for small negative numbers.
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If you mean $[1/x]$ as greatest integer less than or equal to $1/x$ then for sufficiently small $x>0$ we have $$left(frac{1}{x}-1right)sin(x)≤[frac{1}{x}]sin(x)≤frac{1}{x} sin(x)$$ since $$frac{1}{x}-1≤[frac{1}{x}]≤frac{1}{x},xnot=0.$$ Also for sufficiently small $x<0$ we have $$left(frac1x-1right)sin(x)≥[frac{1}{x}]sin(x)≥frac{1}{x} sin(x).$$ Now $$lim_{xrightarrow 0} frac{1}{x}sin(x)=1$$ and $$lim_{xrightarrow0}sin(x)=0.$$ Hence $$lim_{xrightarrow 0}[frac1x]sin(x)=1.$$
The function $sin$ is positive for small positive numbers and negative for small negative numbers.
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If you mean $[1/x]$ as greatest integer less than or equal to $1/x$ then for sufficiently small $x>0$ we have $$left(frac{1}{x}-1right)sin(x)≤[frac{1}{x}]sin(x)≤frac{1}{x} sin(x)$$ since $$frac{1}{x}-1≤[frac{1}{x}]≤frac{1}{x},xnot=0.$$ Also for sufficiently small $x<0$ we have $$left(frac1x-1right)sin(x)≥[frac{1}{x}]sin(x)≥frac{1}{x} sin(x).$$ Now $$lim_{xrightarrow 0} frac{1}{x}sin(x)=1$$ and $$lim_{xrightarrow0}sin(x)=0.$$ Hence $$lim_{xrightarrow 0}[frac1x]sin(x)=1.$$
The function $sin$ is positive for small positive numbers and negative for small negative numbers.
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If you mean $[1/x]$ as greatest integer less than or equal to $1/x$ then for sufficiently small $x>0$ we have $$left(frac{1}{x}-1right)sin(x)≤[frac{1}{x}]sin(x)≤frac{1}{x} sin(x)$$ since $$frac{1}{x}-1≤[frac{1}{x}]≤frac{1}{x},xnot=0.$$ Also for sufficiently small $x<0$ we have $$left(frac1x-1right)sin(x)≥[frac{1}{x}]sin(x)≥frac{1}{x} sin(x).$$ Now $$lim_{xrightarrow 0} frac{1}{x}sin(x)=1$$ and $$lim_{xrightarrow0}sin(x)=0.$$ Hence $$lim_{xrightarrow 0}[frac1x]sin(x)=1.$$
The function $sin$ is positive for small positive numbers and negative for small negative numbers.
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Let's start with the more famous problem, finding the limit of frac{sin x}{x}. Since $frac{sin x}{x}$ is even, we need only verify $lim_{xto 0^+}frac{sin x}{x}=1$. Draw a small angle $x$ between two length-$1$ radii $OA,,OB$ of a centre-$O$ circle $gamma$. Extend $OA$ through $A$ to meet the tangent-at-$B$ $ell$ to $gamma$ at $C$. The vertices $O,,A,,B$ are those of an area-$frac{1}{2}tan x$ triangle and an area-$frac{x}{2}$ sector, and the right-angled $triangle OAC$ has area $frac{1}{2}tan x$. Thus $$0lefrac{sin x}{x}le 1lefrac{tan x}{x}.$$Multiplying by $cos^{pm 1}x$ (which is positive), $$0lecos xlefrac{sin x}{x}le 1lefrac{tan x}{x}lesec x.$$(For example, get $cos xlefrac{sin x}{x}$ from $1lefrac{tan x}{x}$.) Since $cos xto 1$, the squeeze theorem finishes the proof.
Now for the problem at hand. We've subtract at most $|sin x|$ from the function considered above, but $sin xto 0$.
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The OP is about the integer part [1/x].
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– gimusi
Dec 6 '18 at 18:48
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@gimusi My answer gets to that at the end because the first draft was written before that was clarified.
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– J.G.
Dec 6 '18 at 18:55
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Let's start with the more famous problem, finding the limit of frac{sin x}{x}. Since $frac{sin x}{x}$ is even, we need only verify $lim_{xto 0^+}frac{sin x}{x}=1$. Draw a small angle $x$ between two length-$1$ radii $OA,,OB$ of a centre-$O$ circle $gamma$. Extend $OA$ through $A$ to meet the tangent-at-$B$ $ell$ to $gamma$ at $C$. The vertices $O,,A,,B$ are those of an area-$frac{1}{2}tan x$ triangle and an area-$frac{x}{2}$ sector, and the right-angled $triangle OAC$ has area $frac{1}{2}tan x$. Thus $$0lefrac{sin x}{x}le 1lefrac{tan x}{x}.$$Multiplying by $cos^{pm 1}x$ (which is positive), $$0lecos xlefrac{sin x}{x}le 1lefrac{tan x}{x}lesec x.$$(For example, get $cos xlefrac{sin x}{x}$ from $1lefrac{tan x}{x}$.) Since $cos xto 1$, the squeeze theorem finishes the proof.
Now for the problem at hand. We've subtract at most $|sin x|$ from the function considered above, but $sin xto 0$.
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1
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The OP is about the integer part [1/x].
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– gimusi
Dec 6 '18 at 18:48
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@gimusi My answer gets to that at the end because the first draft was written before that was clarified.
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– J.G.
Dec 6 '18 at 18:55
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$begingroup$
Let's start with the more famous problem, finding the limit of frac{sin x}{x}. Since $frac{sin x}{x}$ is even, we need only verify $lim_{xto 0^+}frac{sin x}{x}=1$. Draw a small angle $x$ between two length-$1$ radii $OA,,OB$ of a centre-$O$ circle $gamma$. Extend $OA$ through $A$ to meet the tangent-at-$B$ $ell$ to $gamma$ at $C$. The vertices $O,,A,,B$ are those of an area-$frac{1}{2}tan x$ triangle and an area-$frac{x}{2}$ sector, and the right-angled $triangle OAC$ has area $frac{1}{2}tan x$. Thus $$0lefrac{sin x}{x}le 1lefrac{tan x}{x}.$$Multiplying by $cos^{pm 1}x$ (which is positive), $$0lecos xlefrac{sin x}{x}le 1lefrac{tan x}{x}lesec x.$$(For example, get $cos xlefrac{sin x}{x}$ from $1lefrac{tan x}{x}$.) Since $cos xto 1$, the squeeze theorem finishes the proof.
Now for the problem at hand. We've subtract at most $|sin x|$ from the function considered above, but $sin xto 0$.
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Let's start with the more famous problem, finding the limit of frac{sin x}{x}. Since $frac{sin x}{x}$ is even, we need only verify $lim_{xto 0^+}frac{sin x}{x}=1$. Draw a small angle $x$ between two length-$1$ radii $OA,,OB$ of a centre-$O$ circle $gamma$. Extend $OA$ through $A$ to meet the tangent-at-$B$ $ell$ to $gamma$ at $C$. The vertices $O,,A,,B$ are those of an area-$frac{1}{2}tan x$ triangle and an area-$frac{x}{2}$ sector, and the right-angled $triangle OAC$ has area $frac{1}{2}tan x$. Thus $$0lefrac{sin x}{x}le 1lefrac{tan x}{x}.$$Multiplying by $cos^{pm 1}x$ (which is positive), $$0lecos xlefrac{sin x}{x}le 1lefrac{tan x}{x}lesec x.$$(For example, get $cos xlefrac{sin x}{x}$ from $1lefrac{tan x}{x}$.) Since $cos xto 1$, the squeeze theorem finishes the proof.
Now for the problem at hand. We've subtract at most $|sin x|$ from the function considered above, but $sin xto 0$.
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The OP is about the integer part [1/x].
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– gimusi
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@gimusi My answer gets to that at the end because the first draft was written before that was clarified.
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– J.G.
Dec 6 '18 at 18:55
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The OP is about the integer part [1/x].
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– gimusi
Dec 6 '18 at 18:48
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@gimusi My answer gets to that at the end because the first draft was written before that was clarified.
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– J.G.
Dec 6 '18 at 18:55
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The OP is about the integer part [1/x].
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– gimusi
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The OP is about the integer part [1/x].
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– gimusi
Dec 6 '18 at 18:48
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@gimusi My answer gets to that at the end because the first draft was written before that was clarified.
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– J.G.
Dec 6 '18 at 18:55
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@gimusi My answer gets to that at the end because the first draft was written before that was clarified.
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– J.G.
Dec 6 '18 at 18:55
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HINT
You are mostly done, indeed since by floor function definition we have
$$frac1x-1leleft[frac1xright]le frac1x$$
then assuming wlog $0<x<1$
$$ left(frac1x-1right)cdotsin xleleft[frac1xright]cdotsin xle frac1xcdotsin x$$
and then use squeeze theorem.
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HINT
You are mostly done, indeed since by floor function definition we have
$$frac1x-1leleft[frac1xright]le frac1x$$
then assuming wlog $0<x<1$
$$ left(frac1x-1right)cdotsin xleleft[frac1xright]cdotsin xle frac1xcdotsin x$$
and then use squeeze theorem.
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HINT
You are mostly done, indeed since by floor function definition we have
$$frac1x-1leleft[frac1xright]le frac1x$$
then assuming wlog $0<x<1$
$$ left(frac1x-1right)cdotsin xleleft[frac1xright]cdotsin xle frac1xcdotsin x$$
and then use squeeze theorem.
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HINT
You are mostly done, indeed since by floor function definition we have
$$frac1x-1leleft[frac1xright]le frac1x$$
then assuming wlog $0<x<1$
$$ left(frac1x-1right)cdotsin xleleft[frac1xright]cdotsin xle frac1xcdotsin x$$
and then use squeeze theorem.
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