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How many ways are there to put 14 identical objects in 3 distinct boxes with at least 8 objects in one box?
What is the thinking procedure of the similar question type?
combinatorics combinations
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How many ways are there to put 14 identical objects in 3 distinct boxes with at least 8 objects in one box?
What is the thinking procedure of the similar question type?
combinatorics combinations
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closed as off-topic by choco_addicted, Henrik, Cesareo, GNUSupporter 8964民主女神 地下教會, José Carlos Santos Dec 11 '18 at 11:52
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If you don't regard the condition with 8 objects in the beginning, the problem is similar to finding the number of integer solutions to $$ x_1 + x_2 + x_3 = 14-8 $$
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– Matti P.
Dec 11 '18 at 7:04
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I think you have to multiply above result by 3 ? @MattiP.
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– rsadhvika
Dec 11 '18 at 7:14
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@rsadhvika I agree. Multiplying by 3 takes into account the 8 objects in the beginning.
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– Matti P.
Dec 11 '18 at 7:15
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I suggest looking up "generating functions" as a way to solve these integer problems.
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– Aditya Dua
Dec 11 '18 at 7:17
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How many ways are there to put 14 identical objects in 3 distinct boxes with at least 8 objects in one box?
What is the thinking procedure of the similar question type?
combinatorics combinations
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How many ways are there to put 14 identical objects in 3 distinct boxes with at least 8 objects in one box?
What is the thinking procedure of the similar question type?
combinatorics combinations
combinatorics combinations
edited Dec 11 '18 at 9:43
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If you don't regard the condition with 8 objects in the beginning, the problem is similar to finding the number of integer solutions to $$ x_1 + x_2 + x_3 = 14-8 $$
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– Matti P.
Dec 11 '18 at 7:04
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I think you have to multiply above result by 3 ? @MattiP.
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– rsadhvika
Dec 11 '18 at 7:14
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@rsadhvika I agree. Multiplying by 3 takes into account the 8 objects in the beginning.
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– Matti P.
Dec 11 '18 at 7:15
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I suggest looking up "generating functions" as a way to solve these integer problems.
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– Aditya Dua
Dec 11 '18 at 7:17
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If you don't regard the condition with 8 objects in the beginning, the problem is similar to finding the number of integer solutions to $$ x_1 + x_2 + x_3 = 14-8 $$
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– Matti P.
Dec 11 '18 at 7:04
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I think you have to multiply above result by 3 ? @MattiP.
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– rsadhvika
Dec 11 '18 at 7:14
2
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@rsadhvika I agree. Multiplying by 3 takes into account the 8 objects in the beginning.
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– Matti P.
Dec 11 '18 at 7:15
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I suggest looking up "generating functions" as a way to solve these integer problems.
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– Aditya Dua
Dec 11 '18 at 7:17
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If you don't regard the condition with 8 objects in the beginning, the problem is similar to finding the number of integer solutions to $$ x_1 + x_2 + x_3 = 14-8 $$
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– Matti P.
Dec 11 '18 at 7:04
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If you don't regard the condition with 8 objects in the beginning, the problem is similar to finding the number of integer solutions to $$ x_1 + x_2 + x_3 = 14-8 $$
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– Matti P.
Dec 11 '18 at 7:04
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I think you have to multiply above result by 3 ? @MattiP.
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– rsadhvika
Dec 11 '18 at 7:14
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I think you have to multiply above result by 3 ? @MattiP.
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– rsadhvika
Dec 11 '18 at 7:14
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@rsadhvika I agree. Multiplying by 3 takes into account the 8 objects in the beginning.
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– Matti P.
Dec 11 '18 at 7:15
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@rsadhvika I agree. Multiplying by 3 takes into account the 8 objects in the beginning.
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– Matti P.
Dec 11 '18 at 7:15
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I suggest looking up "generating functions" as a way to solve these integer problems.
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– Aditya Dua
Dec 11 '18 at 7:17
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I suggest looking up "generating functions" as a way to solve these integer problems.
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– Aditya Dua
Dec 11 '18 at 7:17
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You have to find a unique way to describe a possible placement of the objects, that makes counting easy. Here is a solution.
- Choose the box that has at least $8$ objects: $3$ choices.
- For each of the preceding choices, let $k$ be the number of objects in this box ($8le kle 14$).
- For each $k$, choose the number of objects in the leftmost remaining box ($0$ to $14-k$): $15-k$ choices.
- The last box gets the remaining.
This uniquely describes the three boxes.
How many choices now?
$$3sum_{k=8}^{14} (15-k)$$
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You have to find a unique way to describe a possible placement of the objects, that makes counting easy. Here is a solution.
- Choose the box that has at least $8$ objects: $3$ choices.
- For each of the preceding choices, let $k$ be the number of objects in this box ($8le kle 14$).
- For each $k$, choose the number of objects in the leftmost remaining box ($0$ to $14-k$): $15-k$ choices.
- The last box gets the remaining.
This uniquely describes the three boxes.
How many choices now?
$$3sum_{k=8}^{14} (15-k)$$
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You have to find a unique way to describe a possible placement of the objects, that makes counting easy. Here is a solution.
- Choose the box that has at least $8$ objects: $3$ choices.
- For each of the preceding choices, let $k$ be the number of objects in this box ($8le kle 14$).
- For each $k$, choose the number of objects in the leftmost remaining box ($0$ to $14-k$): $15-k$ choices.
- The last box gets the remaining.
This uniquely describes the three boxes.
How many choices now?
$$3sum_{k=8}^{14} (15-k)$$
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You have to find a unique way to describe a possible placement of the objects, that makes counting easy. Here is a solution.
- Choose the box that has at least $8$ objects: $3$ choices.
- For each of the preceding choices, let $k$ be the number of objects in this box ($8le kle 14$).
- For each $k$, choose the number of objects in the leftmost remaining box ($0$ to $14-k$): $15-k$ choices.
- The last box gets the remaining.
This uniquely describes the three boxes.
How many choices now?
$$3sum_{k=8}^{14} (15-k)$$
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You have to find a unique way to describe a possible placement of the objects, that makes counting easy. Here is a solution.
- Choose the box that has at least $8$ objects: $3$ choices.
- For each of the preceding choices, let $k$ be the number of objects in this box ($8le kle 14$).
- For each $k$, choose the number of objects in the leftmost remaining box ($0$ to $14-k$): $15-k$ choices.
- The last box gets the remaining.
This uniquely describes the three boxes.
How many choices now?
$$3sum_{k=8}^{14} (15-k)$$
answered Dec 11 '18 at 7:19
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If you don't regard the condition with 8 objects in the beginning, the problem is similar to finding the number of integer solutions to $$ x_1 + x_2 + x_3 = 14-8 $$
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– Matti P.
Dec 11 '18 at 7:04
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I think you have to multiply above result by 3 ? @MattiP.
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– rsadhvika
Dec 11 '18 at 7:14
2
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@rsadhvika I agree. Multiplying by 3 takes into account the 8 objects in the beginning.
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– Matti P.
Dec 11 '18 at 7:15
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I suggest looking up "generating functions" as a way to solve these integer problems.
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– Aditya Dua
Dec 11 '18 at 7:17