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How many ways are there to put 14 identical objects in 3 distinct boxes with at least 8 objects in one box?



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    If you don't regard the condition with 8 objects in the beginning, the problem is similar to finding the number of integer solutions to $$ x_1 + x_2 + x_3 = 14-8 $$
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    – Matti P.
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    I think you have to multiply above result by 3 ? @MattiP.
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    @rsadhvika I agree. Multiplying by 3 takes into account the 8 objects in the beginning.
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    I suggest looking up "generating functions" as a way to solve these integer problems.
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How many ways are there to put 14 identical objects in 3 distinct boxes with at least 8 objects in one box?



What is the thinking procedure of the similar question type?










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closed as off-topic by choco_addicted, Henrik, Cesareo, GNUSupporter 8964民主女神 地下教會, José Carlos Santos Dec 11 '18 at 11:52


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    If you don't regard the condition with 8 objects in the beginning, the problem is similar to finding the number of integer solutions to $$ x_1 + x_2 + x_3 = 14-8 $$
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    – Matti P.
    Dec 11 '18 at 7:04






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    I think you have to multiply above result by 3 ? @MattiP.
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    – rsadhvika
    Dec 11 '18 at 7:14






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    @rsadhvika I agree. Multiplying by 3 takes into account the 8 objects in the beginning.
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    – Matti P.
    Dec 11 '18 at 7:15










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    I suggest looking up "generating functions" as a way to solve these integer problems.
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    – Aditya Dua
    Dec 11 '18 at 7:17














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How many ways are there to put 14 identical objects in 3 distinct boxes with at least 8 objects in one box?



What is the thinking procedure of the similar question type?










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How many ways are there to put 14 identical objects in 3 distinct boxes with at least 8 objects in one box?



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closed as off-topic by choco_addicted, Henrik, Cesareo, GNUSupporter 8964民主女神 地下教會, José Carlos Santos Dec 11 '18 at 11:52


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closed as off-topic by choco_addicted, Henrik, Cesareo, GNUSupporter 8964民主女神 地下教會, José Carlos Santos Dec 11 '18 at 11:52


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    $begingroup$
    If you don't regard the condition with 8 objects in the beginning, the problem is similar to finding the number of integer solutions to $$ x_1 + x_2 + x_3 = 14-8 $$
    $endgroup$
    – Matti P.
    Dec 11 '18 at 7:04






  • 2




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    I think you have to multiply above result by 3 ? @MattiP.
    $endgroup$
    – rsadhvika
    Dec 11 '18 at 7:14






  • 2




    $begingroup$
    @rsadhvika I agree. Multiplying by 3 takes into account the 8 objects in the beginning.
    $endgroup$
    – Matti P.
    Dec 11 '18 at 7:15










  • $begingroup$
    I suggest looking up "generating functions" as a way to solve these integer problems.
    $endgroup$
    – Aditya Dua
    Dec 11 '18 at 7:17














  • 2




    $begingroup$
    If you don't regard the condition with 8 objects in the beginning, the problem is similar to finding the number of integer solutions to $$ x_1 + x_2 + x_3 = 14-8 $$
    $endgroup$
    – Matti P.
    Dec 11 '18 at 7:04






  • 2




    $begingroup$
    I think you have to multiply above result by 3 ? @MattiP.
    $endgroup$
    – rsadhvika
    Dec 11 '18 at 7:14






  • 2




    $begingroup$
    @rsadhvika I agree. Multiplying by 3 takes into account the 8 objects in the beginning.
    $endgroup$
    – Matti P.
    Dec 11 '18 at 7:15










  • $begingroup$
    I suggest looking up "generating functions" as a way to solve these integer problems.
    $endgroup$
    – Aditya Dua
    Dec 11 '18 at 7:17








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$begingroup$
If you don't regard the condition with 8 objects in the beginning, the problem is similar to finding the number of integer solutions to $$ x_1 + x_2 + x_3 = 14-8 $$
$endgroup$
– Matti P.
Dec 11 '18 at 7:04




$begingroup$
If you don't regard the condition with 8 objects in the beginning, the problem is similar to finding the number of integer solutions to $$ x_1 + x_2 + x_3 = 14-8 $$
$endgroup$
– Matti P.
Dec 11 '18 at 7:04




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I think you have to multiply above result by 3 ? @MattiP.
$endgroup$
– rsadhvika
Dec 11 '18 at 7:14




$begingroup$
I think you have to multiply above result by 3 ? @MattiP.
$endgroup$
– rsadhvika
Dec 11 '18 at 7:14




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@rsadhvika I agree. Multiplying by 3 takes into account the 8 objects in the beginning.
$endgroup$
– Matti P.
Dec 11 '18 at 7:15




$begingroup$
@rsadhvika I agree. Multiplying by 3 takes into account the 8 objects in the beginning.
$endgroup$
– Matti P.
Dec 11 '18 at 7:15












$begingroup$
I suggest looking up "generating functions" as a way to solve these integer problems.
$endgroup$
– Aditya Dua
Dec 11 '18 at 7:17




$begingroup$
I suggest looking up "generating functions" as a way to solve these integer problems.
$endgroup$
– Aditya Dua
Dec 11 '18 at 7:17










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You have to find a unique way to describe a possible placement of the objects, that makes counting easy. Here is a solution.




  • Choose the box that has at least $8$ objects: $3$ choices.

  • For each of the preceding choices, let $k$ be the number of objects in this box ($8le kle 14$).

  • For each $k$, choose the number of objects in the leftmost remaining box ($0$ to $14-k$): $15-k$ choices.

  • The last box gets the remaining.


This uniquely describes the three boxes.



How many choices now?



$$3sum_{k=8}^{14} (15-k)$$






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    You have to find a unique way to describe a possible placement of the objects, that makes counting easy. Here is a solution.




    • Choose the box that has at least $8$ objects: $3$ choices.

    • For each of the preceding choices, let $k$ be the number of objects in this box ($8le kle 14$).

    • For each $k$, choose the number of objects in the leftmost remaining box ($0$ to $14-k$): $15-k$ choices.

    • The last box gets the remaining.


    This uniquely describes the three boxes.



    How many choices now?



    $$3sum_{k=8}^{14} (15-k)$$






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      $begingroup$

      You have to find a unique way to describe a possible placement of the objects, that makes counting easy. Here is a solution.




      • Choose the box that has at least $8$ objects: $3$ choices.

      • For each of the preceding choices, let $k$ be the number of objects in this box ($8le kle 14$).

      • For each $k$, choose the number of objects in the leftmost remaining box ($0$ to $14-k$): $15-k$ choices.

      • The last box gets the remaining.


      This uniquely describes the three boxes.



      How many choices now?



      $$3sum_{k=8}^{14} (15-k)$$






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        $begingroup$

        You have to find a unique way to describe a possible placement of the objects, that makes counting easy. Here is a solution.




        • Choose the box that has at least $8$ objects: $3$ choices.

        • For each of the preceding choices, let $k$ be the number of objects in this box ($8le kle 14$).

        • For each $k$, choose the number of objects in the leftmost remaining box ($0$ to $14-k$): $15-k$ choices.

        • The last box gets the remaining.


        This uniquely describes the three boxes.



        How many choices now?



        $$3sum_{k=8}^{14} (15-k)$$






        share|cite|improve this answer









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        You have to find a unique way to describe a possible placement of the objects, that makes counting easy. Here is a solution.




        • Choose the box that has at least $8$ objects: $3$ choices.

        • For each of the preceding choices, let $k$ be the number of objects in this box ($8le kle 14$).

        • For each $k$, choose the number of objects in the leftmost remaining box ($0$ to $14-k$): $15-k$ choices.

        • The last box gets the remaining.


        This uniquely describes the three boxes.



        How many choices now?



        $$3sum_{k=8}^{14} (15-k)$$







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