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I accepted a job offer with a company I am really excited to work for, I won't start the position for another month. I was in a senior level management position and decided to step down to a less stressful position.



In this interim I have been contacted weekly with additional responsibilities and duties that are being added on to my new role. Originally after accepting the offer I asked for a clear outline of duties and expectations, and all the things they have added on are the exact things I had asked about initially. Originally they said those responsibilities did not apply to the position I was accepting.



I explained to them the new additional responsibilities change the position and make it a senior level position (which was exactly what I did for my previous employer). They claimed they were unaware of the different titles and job responsibilities associated with each title. I love the company and am fully capable of doing the job with the added responsibilities but am wanting to renegotiate our original contract.



This position has changed from mid level management to senior management which has a substantial pay difference. I negotiated the original salary based on the original position. Would this be unprofessional on my part to attempt renegotiating at this point?










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    "Originally they said those responsibilities did not apply to the position I was accepting." - For clarification, they gave you a list which included the duties you didn't want, but they said they did not apply to your position? If that's the case, then the person you spoke with was incorrect and you inadvertently accepted the responsibilities on the list. I would have requested an updated list of responsibilities specific to the new role. I've done this in the past in the same situation. If they added them later, then tell them no, that's no what we agreed on.

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  • Who cares if you would come off as unprofessional to them? They have already come off as unprofessional to you.

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I accepted a job offer with a company I am really excited to work for, I won't start the position for another month. I was in a senior level management position and decided to step down to a less stressful position.



In this interim I have been contacted weekly with additional responsibilities and duties that are being added on to my new role. Originally after accepting the offer I asked for a clear outline of duties and expectations, and all the things they have added on are the exact things I had asked about initially. Originally they said those responsibilities did not apply to the position I was accepting.



I explained to them the new additional responsibilities change the position and make it a senior level position (which was exactly what I did for my previous employer). They claimed they were unaware of the different titles and job responsibilities associated with each title. I love the company and am fully capable of doing the job with the added responsibilities but am wanting to renegotiate our original contract.



This position has changed from mid level management to senior management which has a substantial pay difference. I negotiated the original salary based on the original position. Would this be unprofessional on my part to attempt renegotiating at this point?










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    "Originally they said those responsibilities did not apply to the position I was accepting." - For clarification, they gave you a list which included the duties you didn't want, but they said they did not apply to your position? If that's the case, then the person you spoke with was incorrect and you inadvertently accepted the responsibilities on the list. I would have requested an updated list of responsibilities specific to the new role. I've done this in the past in the same situation. If they added them later, then tell them no, that's no what we agreed on.

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  • Who cares if you would come off as unprofessional to them? They have already come off as unprofessional to you.

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I accepted a job offer with a company I am really excited to work for, I won't start the position for another month. I was in a senior level management position and decided to step down to a less stressful position.



In this interim I have been contacted weekly with additional responsibilities and duties that are being added on to my new role. Originally after accepting the offer I asked for a clear outline of duties and expectations, and all the things they have added on are the exact things I had asked about initially. Originally they said those responsibilities did not apply to the position I was accepting.



I explained to them the new additional responsibilities change the position and make it a senior level position (which was exactly what I did for my previous employer). They claimed they were unaware of the different titles and job responsibilities associated with each title. I love the company and am fully capable of doing the job with the added responsibilities but am wanting to renegotiate our original contract.



This position has changed from mid level management to senior management which has a substantial pay difference. I negotiated the original salary based on the original position. Would this be unprofessional on my part to attempt renegotiating at this point?










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I accepted a job offer with a company I am really excited to work for, I won't start the position for another month. I was in a senior level management position and decided to step down to a less stressful position.



In this interim I have been contacted weekly with additional responsibilities and duties that are being added on to my new role. Originally after accepting the offer I asked for a clear outline of duties and expectations, and all the things they have added on are the exact things I had asked about initially. Originally they said those responsibilities did not apply to the position I was accepting.



I explained to them the new additional responsibilities change the position and make it a senior level position (which was exactly what I did for my previous employer). They claimed they were unaware of the different titles and job responsibilities associated with each title. I love the company and am fully capable of doing the job with the added responsibilities but am wanting to renegotiate our original contract.



This position has changed from mid level management to senior management which has a substantial pay difference. I negotiated the original salary based on the original position. Would this be unprofessional on my part to attempt renegotiating at this point?







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    "Originally they said those responsibilities did not apply to the position I was accepting." - For clarification, they gave you a list which included the duties you didn't want, but they said they did not apply to your position? If that's the case, then the person you spoke with was incorrect and you inadvertently accepted the responsibilities on the list. I would have requested an updated list of responsibilities specific to the new role. I've done this in the past in the same situation. If they added them later, then tell them no, that's no what we agreed on.

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  • Who cares if you would come off as unprofessional to them? They have already come off as unprofessional to you.

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  • 8





    "Originally they said those responsibilities did not apply to the position I was accepting." - For clarification, they gave you a list which included the duties you didn't want, but they said they did not apply to your position? If that's the case, then the person you spoke with was incorrect and you inadvertently accepted the responsibilities on the list. I would have requested an updated list of responsibilities specific to the new role. I've done this in the past in the same situation. If they added them later, then tell them no, that's no what we agreed on.

    – DustinDavis
    Mar 11 at 15:45











  • Who cares if you would come off as unprofessional to them? They have already come off as unprofessional to you.

    – mathreadler
    Mar 12 at 19:14








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"Originally they said those responsibilities did not apply to the position I was accepting." - For clarification, they gave you a list which included the duties you didn't want, but they said they did not apply to your position? If that's the case, then the person you spoke with was incorrect and you inadvertently accepted the responsibilities on the list. I would have requested an updated list of responsibilities specific to the new role. I've done this in the past in the same situation. If they added them later, then tell them no, that's no what we agreed on.

– DustinDavis
Mar 11 at 15:45





"Originally they said those responsibilities did not apply to the position I was accepting." - For clarification, they gave you a list which included the duties you didn't want, but they said they did not apply to your position? If that's the case, then the person you spoke with was incorrect and you inadvertently accepted the responsibilities on the list. I would have requested an updated list of responsibilities specific to the new role. I've done this in the past in the same situation. If they added them later, then tell them no, that's no what we agreed on.

– DustinDavis
Mar 11 at 15:45













Who cares if you would come off as unprofessional to them? They have already come off as unprofessional to you.

– mathreadler
Mar 12 at 19:14





Who cares if you would come off as unprofessional to them? They have already come off as unprofessional to you.

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It is not about whether it is unprofessional to start negotiating. They have already started renegotiating the position by changing the responsibilities. The only question is how you respond to this renegotiation.



All the usual approaches to negotiation apply. Treat the situation as if you had been offered a new job with new responsibilities. You can negotiate salary, conditions and everything else that you could have negotiated at the start, and ultimately accept or reject it as you wish. (I'm not saying the company will see it like that of course - they may try to persuade you that you should stick to your side of the agreement even when they are changing theirs.)



You are obviously at a bit of a disadvantage if you have already resigned from your current job, but that doesn't affect the 'professionalism' of negotiating. Also as the other answers say, a last minute change of job description is a huge red flag, indicating something from serious disorganization within the company (at best) to deliberate bait and switch tactics (at worst).






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    In addition to simply accepting and rejecting the offer you could also negotiate a new (larger) salary/compensation for the the added responsibilities.

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    OP is in a strong position given that the company is short staffed. They should accept his negotiation or face the prospect of searching for two new positions.

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    If OP don't stand their ground now, they're going to do this for their entire tenure there. And they may not be doing this maliciously or deceivingly, they probably just need things done!

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Have you put in notice at your current company yet



Having a job significantly change is a red flag - a big red flag. If you have not put in your notice, you are in a significantly stronger position.



You should also heavily consider not working for this new company.



It is completely professional to renegotiate if they have significantly changed the job



If you've already quit your old job, this may present an issue though. The new company may decide to not hire you if you try to re-negotiate. It's stupid as they significantly changed the job, but it could happen.



That said, it's probably worth calling them and finding out exactly what is going on. Lead with "When I interviewed, it was my understanding my job would involve X, but now Y, and Z were added. Did I misunderstand something?" From there, you may be able to get a higher salary.



If you'd be underpaid for your job, you'll likely leave very soon anyway. If you want to give the new job a chance, it's worth seeing if they can raise the salary.






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    Thank you for the advice. Unfortunately I had already given notice to my current employer, I gave them a 1 month notice. I was concerned about losing this opportunity by renegotiating, but thought the same as you stated.

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    It is not about whether it is unprofessional to start negotiating. They have already started renegotiating the position by changing the responsibilities. The only question is how you respond to this renegotiation.



    All the usual approaches to negotiation apply. Treat the situation as if you had been offered a new job with new responsibilities. You can negotiate salary, conditions and everything else that you could have negotiated at the start, and ultimately accept or reject it as you wish. (I'm not saying the company will see it like that of course - they may try to persuade you that you should stick to your side of the agreement even when they are changing theirs.)



    You are obviously at a bit of a disadvantage if you have already resigned from your current job, but that doesn't affect the 'professionalism' of negotiating. Also as the other answers say, a last minute change of job description is a huge red flag, indicating something from serious disorganization within the company (at best) to deliberate bait and switch tactics (at worst).






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      In addition to simply accepting and rejecting the offer you could also negotiate a new (larger) salary/compensation for the the added responsibilities.

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      OP is in a strong position given that the company is short staffed. They should accept his negotiation or face the prospect of searching for two new positions.

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    It is not about whether it is unprofessional to start negotiating. They have already started renegotiating the position by changing the responsibilities. The only question is how you respond to this renegotiation.



    All the usual approaches to negotiation apply. Treat the situation as if you had been offered a new job with new responsibilities. You can negotiate salary, conditions and everything else that you could have negotiated at the start, and ultimately accept or reject it as you wish. (I'm not saying the company will see it like that of course - they may try to persuade you that you should stick to your side of the agreement even when they are changing theirs.)



    You are obviously at a bit of a disadvantage if you have already resigned from your current job, but that doesn't affect the 'professionalism' of negotiating. Also as the other answers say, a last minute change of job description is a huge red flag, indicating something from serious disorganization within the company (at best) to deliberate bait and switch tactics (at worst).






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      OP is in a strong position given that the company is short staffed. They should accept his negotiation or face the prospect of searching for two new positions.

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    It is not about whether it is unprofessional to start negotiating. They have already started renegotiating the position by changing the responsibilities. The only question is how you respond to this renegotiation.



    All the usual approaches to negotiation apply. Treat the situation as if you had been offered a new job with new responsibilities. You can negotiate salary, conditions and everything else that you could have negotiated at the start, and ultimately accept or reject it as you wish. (I'm not saying the company will see it like that of course - they may try to persuade you that you should stick to your side of the agreement even when they are changing theirs.)



    You are obviously at a bit of a disadvantage if you have already resigned from your current job, but that doesn't affect the 'professionalism' of negotiating. Also as the other answers say, a last minute change of job description is a huge red flag, indicating something from serious disorganization within the company (at best) to deliberate bait and switch tactics (at worst).






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    It is not about whether it is unprofessional to start negotiating. They have already started renegotiating the position by changing the responsibilities. The only question is how you respond to this renegotiation.



    All the usual approaches to negotiation apply. Treat the situation as if you had been offered a new job with new responsibilities. You can negotiate salary, conditions and everything else that you could have negotiated at the start, and ultimately accept or reject it as you wish. (I'm not saying the company will see it like that of course - they may try to persuade you that you should stick to your side of the agreement even when they are changing theirs.)



    You are obviously at a bit of a disadvantage if you have already resigned from your current job, but that doesn't affect the 'professionalism' of negotiating. Also as the other answers say, a last minute change of job description is a huge red flag, indicating something from serious disorganization within the company (at best) to deliberate bait and switch tactics (at worst).







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      In addition to simply accepting and rejecting the offer you could also negotiate a new (larger) salary/compensation for the the added responsibilities.

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      OP is in a strong position given that the company is short staffed. They should accept his negotiation or face the prospect of searching for two new positions.

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    • 29





      If OP don't stand their ground now, they're going to do this for their entire tenure there. And they may not be doing this maliciously or deceivingly, they probably just need things done!

      – corsiKa
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    • Please do keep us updated with any new information.

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      In addition to simply accepting and rejecting the offer you could also negotiate a new (larger) salary/compensation for the the added responsibilities.

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      OP is in a strong position given that the company is short staffed. They should accept his negotiation or face the prospect of searching for two new positions.

      – josh
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    • 29





      If OP don't stand their ground now, they're going to do this for their entire tenure there. And they may not be doing this maliciously or deceivingly, they probably just need things done!

      – corsiKa
      Mar 11 at 15:10











    • Please do keep us updated with any new information.

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    In addition to simply accepting and rejecting the offer you could also negotiate a new (larger) salary/compensation for the the added responsibilities.

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    In addition to simply accepting and rejecting the offer you could also negotiate a new (larger) salary/compensation for the the added responsibilities.

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    OP is in a strong position given that the company is short staffed. They should accept his negotiation or face the prospect of searching for two new positions.

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    OP is in a strong position given that the company is short staffed. They should accept his negotiation or face the prospect of searching for two new positions.

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    If OP don't stand their ground now, they're going to do this for their entire tenure there. And they may not be doing this maliciously or deceivingly, they probably just need things done!

    – corsiKa
    Mar 11 at 15:10





    If OP don't stand their ground now, they're going to do this for their entire tenure there. And they may not be doing this maliciously or deceivingly, they probably just need things done!

    – corsiKa
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    Please do keep us updated with any new information.

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    Please do keep us updated with any new information.

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    Have you put in notice at your current company yet



    Having a job significantly change is a red flag - a big red flag. If you have not put in your notice, you are in a significantly stronger position.



    You should also heavily consider not working for this new company.



    It is completely professional to renegotiate if they have significantly changed the job



    If you've already quit your old job, this may present an issue though. The new company may decide to not hire you if you try to re-negotiate. It's stupid as they significantly changed the job, but it could happen.



    That said, it's probably worth calling them and finding out exactly what is going on. Lead with "When I interviewed, it was my understanding my job would involve X, but now Y, and Z were added. Did I misunderstand something?" From there, you may be able to get a higher salary.



    If you'd be underpaid for your job, you'll likely leave very soon anyway. If you want to give the new job a chance, it's worth seeing if they can raise the salary.






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      Thank you for the advice. Unfortunately I had already given notice to my current employer, I gave them a 1 month notice. I was concerned about losing this opportunity by renegotiating, but thought the same as you stated.

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    Have you put in notice at your current company yet



    Having a job significantly change is a red flag - a big red flag. If you have not put in your notice, you are in a significantly stronger position.



    You should also heavily consider not working for this new company.



    It is completely professional to renegotiate if they have significantly changed the job



    If you've already quit your old job, this may present an issue though. The new company may decide to not hire you if you try to re-negotiate. It's stupid as they significantly changed the job, but it could happen.



    That said, it's probably worth calling them and finding out exactly what is going on. Lead with "When I interviewed, it was my understanding my job would involve X, but now Y, and Z were added. Did I misunderstand something?" From there, you may be able to get a higher salary.



    If you'd be underpaid for your job, you'll likely leave very soon anyway. If you want to give the new job a chance, it's worth seeing if they can raise the salary.






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      Thank you for the advice. Unfortunately I had already given notice to my current employer, I gave them a 1 month notice. I was concerned about losing this opportunity by renegotiating, but thought the same as you stated.

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    Have you put in notice at your current company yet



    Having a job significantly change is a red flag - a big red flag. If you have not put in your notice, you are in a significantly stronger position.



    You should also heavily consider not working for this new company.



    It is completely professional to renegotiate if they have significantly changed the job



    If you've already quit your old job, this may present an issue though. The new company may decide to not hire you if you try to re-negotiate. It's stupid as they significantly changed the job, but it could happen.



    That said, it's probably worth calling them and finding out exactly what is going on. Lead with "When I interviewed, it was my understanding my job would involve X, but now Y, and Z were added. Did I misunderstand something?" From there, you may be able to get a higher salary.



    If you'd be underpaid for your job, you'll likely leave very soon anyway. If you want to give the new job a chance, it's worth seeing if they can raise the salary.






    share|improve this answer













    Have you put in notice at your current company yet



    Having a job significantly change is a red flag - a big red flag. If you have not put in your notice, you are in a significantly stronger position.



    You should also heavily consider not working for this new company.



    It is completely professional to renegotiate if they have significantly changed the job



    If you've already quit your old job, this may present an issue though. The new company may decide to not hire you if you try to re-negotiate. It's stupid as they significantly changed the job, but it could happen.



    That said, it's probably worth calling them and finding out exactly what is going on. Lead with "When I interviewed, it was my understanding my job would involve X, but now Y, and Z were added. Did I misunderstand something?" From there, you may be able to get a higher salary.



    If you'd be underpaid for your job, you'll likely leave very soon anyway. If you want to give the new job a chance, it's worth seeing if they can raise the salary.







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    Thank you for the advice. Unfortunately I had already given notice to my current employer, I gave them a 1 month notice. I was concerned about losing this opportunity by renegotiating, but thought the same as you stated.

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        You only love the new company because it's letting you escape the current company. Walk away.







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