Blackjack: probability of being dealt a card of value less than or equal to 5 given this scenario?












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There is only one deck of cards in play which has just been reshuffled. Six cards are dealt -- two to you, two to another player, and two to the dealer. You have a king and a six, the other player is showing a five; and the dealer is showing a seven. You are the first to decide whether to hit or stay. If you hit, what is the probability of being dealt a card with a value less than or equal to 5 (aces included)?



My idea:



$P$(dealt a card $leq 5)$ = $P(5)$ + $P(4)$ + $P(3)$ + $P(2)$ + $P(ace)$.



To find $P(5)$, there are 3 cases:



1) The 2 unknown cards are 5s $implies$ $P(5)$ = $frac{1}{46}$.



2) 1 unknown card is a 5 $implies$ $P(5)$ = $frac{2}{46}$ + $frac{2}{46}$ = $frac{4}{46}$, since there are two ways this can happen.



3) None of the unknown cards is a 5 $implies$ $P(5)$ = $frac{3}{46}$.



Adding these up, $P(5) = frac{8}{46}.$



To find $P(4)$, we consider:



1) 2 unknowns are 4s, so $P(4) = frac{2}{46}$.



2) 1 unknown is a 4, so $P(4) = frac{3}{46} + frac{3}{46} = frac{6}{46}$, since there are two ways this can happen.



3) None is a 4, so $P(4)$ = $frac{4}{46}$.



So $P(4)$ = $frac{12}{46}.$



Now, $P(3)$, $P(2)$, and $P(ace)$ are the same as $P(4)$. So our final answer is the sum of these results, so $frac{8}{46} + 4(frac{12}{46}) = frac{56}{46}$... which obviously doesn't make sense. Where am I going wrong?










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    There is only one deck of cards in play which has just been reshuffled. Six cards are dealt -- two to you, two to another player, and two to the dealer. You have a king and a six, the other player is showing a five; and the dealer is showing a seven. You are the first to decide whether to hit or stay. If you hit, what is the probability of being dealt a card with a value less than or equal to 5 (aces included)?



    My idea:



    $P$(dealt a card $leq 5)$ = $P(5)$ + $P(4)$ + $P(3)$ + $P(2)$ + $P(ace)$.



    To find $P(5)$, there are 3 cases:



    1) The 2 unknown cards are 5s $implies$ $P(5)$ = $frac{1}{46}$.



    2) 1 unknown card is a 5 $implies$ $P(5)$ = $frac{2}{46}$ + $frac{2}{46}$ = $frac{4}{46}$, since there are two ways this can happen.



    3) None of the unknown cards is a 5 $implies$ $P(5)$ = $frac{3}{46}$.



    Adding these up, $P(5) = frac{8}{46}.$



    To find $P(4)$, we consider:



    1) 2 unknowns are 4s, so $P(4) = frac{2}{46}$.



    2) 1 unknown is a 4, so $P(4) = frac{3}{46} + frac{3}{46} = frac{6}{46}$, since there are two ways this can happen.



    3) None is a 4, so $P(4)$ = $frac{4}{46}$.



    So $P(4)$ = $frac{12}{46}.$



    Now, $P(3)$, $P(2)$, and $P(ace)$ are the same as $P(4)$. So our final answer is the sum of these results, so $frac{8}{46} + 4(frac{12}{46}) = frac{56}{46}$... which obviously doesn't make sense. Where am I going wrong?










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      There is only one deck of cards in play which has just been reshuffled. Six cards are dealt -- two to you, two to another player, and two to the dealer. You have a king and a six, the other player is showing a five; and the dealer is showing a seven. You are the first to decide whether to hit or stay. If you hit, what is the probability of being dealt a card with a value less than or equal to 5 (aces included)?



      My idea:



      $P$(dealt a card $leq 5)$ = $P(5)$ + $P(4)$ + $P(3)$ + $P(2)$ + $P(ace)$.



      To find $P(5)$, there are 3 cases:



      1) The 2 unknown cards are 5s $implies$ $P(5)$ = $frac{1}{46}$.



      2) 1 unknown card is a 5 $implies$ $P(5)$ = $frac{2}{46}$ + $frac{2}{46}$ = $frac{4}{46}$, since there are two ways this can happen.



      3) None of the unknown cards is a 5 $implies$ $P(5)$ = $frac{3}{46}$.



      Adding these up, $P(5) = frac{8}{46}.$



      To find $P(4)$, we consider:



      1) 2 unknowns are 4s, so $P(4) = frac{2}{46}$.



      2) 1 unknown is a 4, so $P(4) = frac{3}{46} + frac{3}{46} = frac{6}{46}$, since there are two ways this can happen.



      3) None is a 4, so $P(4)$ = $frac{4}{46}$.



      So $P(4)$ = $frac{12}{46}.$



      Now, $P(3)$, $P(2)$, and $P(ace)$ are the same as $P(4)$. So our final answer is the sum of these results, so $frac{8}{46} + 4(frac{12}{46}) = frac{56}{46}$... which obviously doesn't make sense. Where am I going wrong?










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      There is only one deck of cards in play which has just been reshuffled. Six cards are dealt -- two to you, two to another player, and two to the dealer. You have a king and a six, the other player is showing a five; and the dealer is showing a seven. You are the first to decide whether to hit or stay. If you hit, what is the probability of being dealt a card with a value less than or equal to 5 (aces included)?



      My idea:



      $P$(dealt a card $leq 5)$ = $P(5)$ + $P(4)$ + $P(3)$ + $P(2)$ + $P(ace)$.



      To find $P(5)$, there are 3 cases:



      1) The 2 unknown cards are 5s $implies$ $P(5)$ = $frac{1}{46}$.



      2) 1 unknown card is a 5 $implies$ $P(5)$ = $frac{2}{46}$ + $frac{2}{46}$ = $frac{4}{46}$, since there are two ways this can happen.



      3) None of the unknown cards is a 5 $implies$ $P(5)$ = $frac{3}{46}$.



      Adding these up, $P(5) = frac{8}{46}.$



      To find $P(4)$, we consider:



      1) 2 unknowns are 4s, so $P(4) = frac{2}{46}$.



      2) 1 unknown is a 4, so $P(4) = frac{3}{46} + frac{3}{46} = frac{6}{46}$, since there are two ways this can happen.



      3) None is a 4, so $P(4)$ = $frac{4}{46}$.



      So $P(4)$ = $frac{12}{46}.$



      Now, $P(3)$, $P(2)$, and $P(ace)$ are the same as $P(4)$. So our final answer is the sum of these results, so $frac{8}{46} + 4(frac{12}{46}) = frac{56}{46}$... which obviously doesn't make sense. Where am I going wrong?







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          "The 2 unknown cards are $5$s ⟹ $P(5) = 1/46$" is not correct.
          Actually $1/46$ is the conditional probability that you got a $5$
          after you know that the 2 unknown cards are $5$s. In order to obtain the correct probability you should multiply $1/46$ by $3/48cdot 2/47$ i.e. the probability that the 2 unknown cards are $5$s.



          This is a hint which follows your approach (although there is a shorter way to find the required probability).



          The unknown cards are $52-4=48$, $5cdot4-1=19$ are $leq 5$ and $48-19=29$ are $>5$. We consider $3$ distinct cases.



          1) The $2$ unknown cards are $leq 5$s and you draw a card $leq 5$: in this case the probability is
          $$p_1=underbrace{frac{19}{48}}_{text{prob. dealer has a card $leq 5$}}cdotunderbrace{frac{18}{47}}_{text{prob. other player has another card $leq 5$}}cdot underbrace{frac{17}{46}}_{text{prob. you get a card $leq 5$}}.$$



          2) Only $1$ of the unknown cards is $leq 5$s and you draw a card $leq 5$: in this case the probability is
          $$p_2=2cdot frac{19}{48}cdot frac{29}{47}cdot frac{18}{46}.$$



          3) None of the unknown cards is $leq 5$s and you draw a card $leq 5$: in this case the probability is
          $$p_3= frac{29}{48}cdot frac{28}{47}cdotfrac{19}{46}.$$



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            I don't really understand. Why are the 2 unknown cards $leq$ 5? How are you getting those numbers? What did I do wrong?@Robert Z
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            I am editing my answer with more details. Have you the right result?
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            @Jake Is it clear now? Are you able to get the final result?
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            Yes this is a lot clearer now! So the answer is just the sum $p_1 + p_2 + p_3$?
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            – Jake
            Dec 9 '18 at 18:25










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            Yes, that's it.
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          There are 48 unknown cards, including three 5's and four each of four denominations below 5, for a total of 19 good cards for you if you hit. Each of the 48 is equally likely as the card you get, so the probability of a good hit is $19/48$.






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            "The 2 unknown cards are $5$s ⟹ $P(5) = 1/46$" is not correct.
            Actually $1/46$ is the conditional probability that you got a $5$
            after you know that the 2 unknown cards are $5$s. In order to obtain the correct probability you should multiply $1/46$ by $3/48cdot 2/47$ i.e. the probability that the 2 unknown cards are $5$s.



            This is a hint which follows your approach (although there is a shorter way to find the required probability).



            The unknown cards are $52-4=48$, $5cdot4-1=19$ are $leq 5$ and $48-19=29$ are $>5$. We consider $3$ distinct cases.



            1) The $2$ unknown cards are $leq 5$s and you draw a card $leq 5$: in this case the probability is
            $$p_1=underbrace{frac{19}{48}}_{text{prob. dealer has a card $leq 5$}}cdotunderbrace{frac{18}{47}}_{text{prob. other player has another card $leq 5$}}cdot underbrace{frac{17}{46}}_{text{prob. you get a card $leq 5$}}.$$



            2) Only $1$ of the unknown cards is $leq 5$s and you draw a card $leq 5$: in this case the probability is
            $$p_2=2cdot frac{19}{48}cdot frac{29}{47}cdot frac{18}{46}.$$



            3) None of the unknown cards is $leq 5$s and you draw a card $leq 5$: in this case the probability is
            $$p_3= frac{29}{48}cdot frac{28}{47}cdotfrac{19}{46}.$$



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              I don't really understand. Why are the 2 unknown cards $leq$ 5? How are you getting those numbers? What did I do wrong?@Robert Z
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              – Jake
              Dec 9 '18 at 8:52












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              I am editing my answer with more details. Have you the right result?
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              – Robert Z
              Dec 9 '18 at 8:56










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              @Jake Is it clear now? Are you able to get the final result?
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              – Robert Z
              Dec 9 '18 at 9:28










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              Yes this is a lot clearer now! So the answer is just the sum $p_1 + p_2 + p_3$?
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              – Jake
              Dec 9 '18 at 18:25










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              Yes, that's it.
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              – Robert Z
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            $begingroup$

            "The 2 unknown cards are $5$s ⟹ $P(5) = 1/46$" is not correct.
            Actually $1/46$ is the conditional probability that you got a $5$
            after you know that the 2 unknown cards are $5$s. In order to obtain the correct probability you should multiply $1/46$ by $3/48cdot 2/47$ i.e. the probability that the 2 unknown cards are $5$s.



            This is a hint which follows your approach (although there is a shorter way to find the required probability).



            The unknown cards are $52-4=48$, $5cdot4-1=19$ are $leq 5$ and $48-19=29$ are $>5$. We consider $3$ distinct cases.



            1) The $2$ unknown cards are $leq 5$s and you draw a card $leq 5$: in this case the probability is
            $$p_1=underbrace{frac{19}{48}}_{text{prob. dealer has a card $leq 5$}}cdotunderbrace{frac{18}{47}}_{text{prob. other player has another card $leq 5$}}cdot underbrace{frac{17}{46}}_{text{prob. you get a card $leq 5$}}.$$



            2) Only $1$ of the unknown cards is $leq 5$s and you draw a card $leq 5$: in this case the probability is
            $$p_2=2cdot frac{19}{48}cdot frac{29}{47}cdot frac{18}{46}.$$



            3) None of the unknown cards is $leq 5$s and you draw a card $leq 5$: in this case the probability is
            $$p_3= frac{29}{48}cdot frac{28}{47}cdotfrac{19}{46}.$$



            Can you take it from here?






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              I don't really understand. Why are the 2 unknown cards $leq$ 5? How are you getting those numbers? What did I do wrong?@Robert Z
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              – Jake
              Dec 9 '18 at 8:52












            • $begingroup$
              I am editing my answer with more details. Have you the right result?
              $endgroup$
              – Robert Z
              Dec 9 '18 at 8:56










            • $begingroup$
              @Jake Is it clear now? Are you able to get the final result?
              $endgroup$
              – Robert Z
              Dec 9 '18 at 9:28










            • $begingroup$
              Yes this is a lot clearer now! So the answer is just the sum $p_1 + p_2 + p_3$?
              $endgroup$
              – Jake
              Dec 9 '18 at 18:25










            • $begingroup$
              Yes, that's it.
              $endgroup$
              – Robert Z
              Dec 9 '18 at 18:27














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            "The 2 unknown cards are $5$s ⟹ $P(5) = 1/46$" is not correct.
            Actually $1/46$ is the conditional probability that you got a $5$
            after you know that the 2 unknown cards are $5$s. In order to obtain the correct probability you should multiply $1/46$ by $3/48cdot 2/47$ i.e. the probability that the 2 unknown cards are $5$s.



            This is a hint which follows your approach (although there is a shorter way to find the required probability).



            The unknown cards are $52-4=48$, $5cdot4-1=19$ are $leq 5$ and $48-19=29$ are $>5$. We consider $3$ distinct cases.



            1) The $2$ unknown cards are $leq 5$s and you draw a card $leq 5$: in this case the probability is
            $$p_1=underbrace{frac{19}{48}}_{text{prob. dealer has a card $leq 5$}}cdotunderbrace{frac{18}{47}}_{text{prob. other player has another card $leq 5$}}cdot underbrace{frac{17}{46}}_{text{prob. you get a card $leq 5$}}.$$



            2) Only $1$ of the unknown cards is $leq 5$s and you draw a card $leq 5$: in this case the probability is
            $$p_2=2cdot frac{19}{48}cdot frac{29}{47}cdot frac{18}{46}.$$



            3) None of the unknown cards is $leq 5$s and you draw a card $leq 5$: in this case the probability is
            $$p_3= frac{29}{48}cdot frac{28}{47}cdotfrac{19}{46}.$$



            Can you take it from here?






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            "The 2 unknown cards are $5$s ⟹ $P(5) = 1/46$" is not correct.
            Actually $1/46$ is the conditional probability that you got a $5$
            after you know that the 2 unknown cards are $5$s. In order to obtain the correct probability you should multiply $1/46$ by $3/48cdot 2/47$ i.e. the probability that the 2 unknown cards are $5$s.



            This is a hint which follows your approach (although there is a shorter way to find the required probability).



            The unknown cards are $52-4=48$, $5cdot4-1=19$ are $leq 5$ and $48-19=29$ are $>5$. We consider $3$ distinct cases.



            1) The $2$ unknown cards are $leq 5$s and you draw a card $leq 5$: in this case the probability is
            $$p_1=underbrace{frac{19}{48}}_{text{prob. dealer has a card $leq 5$}}cdotunderbrace{frac{18}{47}}_{text{prob. other player has another card $leq 5$}}cdot underbrace{frac{17}{46}}_{text{prob. you get a card $leq 5$}}.$$



            2) Only $1$ of the unknown cards is $leq 5$s and you draw a card $leq 5$: in this case the probability is
            $$p_2=2cdot frac{19}{48}cdot frac{29}{47}cdot frac{18}{46}.$$



            3) None of the unknown cards is $leq 5$s and you draw a card $leq 5$: in this case the probability is
            $$p_3= frac{29}{48}cdot frac{28}{47}cdotfrac{19}{46}.$$



            Can you take it from here?







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              I don't really understand. Why are the 2 unknown cards $leq$ 5? How are you getting those numbers? What did I do wrong?@Robert Z
              $endgroup$
              – Jake
              Dec 9 '18 at 8:52












            • $begingroup$
              I am editing my answer with more details. Have you the right result?
              $endgroup$
              – Robert Z
              Dec 9 '18 at 8:56










            • $begingroup$
              @Jake Is it clear now? Are you able to get the final result?
              $endgroup$
              – Robert Z
              Dec 9 '18 at 9:28










            • $begingroup$
              Yes this is a lot clearer now! So the answer is just the sum $p_1 + p_2 + p_3$?
              $endgroup$
              – Jake
              Dec 9 '18 at 18:25










            • $begingroup$
              Yes, that's it.
              $endgroup$
              – Robert Z
              Dec 9 '18 at 18:27


















            • $begingroup$
              I don't really understand. Why are the 2 unknown cards $leq$ 5? How are you getting those numbers? What did I do wrong?@Robert Z
              $endgroup$
              – Jake
              Dec 9 '18 at 8:52












            • $begingroup$
              I am editing my answer with more details. Have you the right result?
              $endgroup$
              – Robert Z
              Dec 9 '18 at 8:56










            • $begingroup$
              @Jake Is it clear now? Are you able to get the final result?
              $endgroup$
              – Robert Z
              Dec 9 '18 at 9:28










            • $begingroup$
              Yes this is a lot clearer now! So the answer is just the sum $p_1 + p_2 + p_3$?
              $endgroup$
              – Jake
              Dec 9 '18 at 18:25










            • $begingroup$
              Yes, that's it.
              $endgroup$
              – Robert Z
              Dec 9 '18 at 18:27
















            $begingroup$
            I don't really understand. Why are the 2 unknown cards $leq$ 5? How are you getting those numbers? What did I do wrong?@Robert Z
            $endgroup$
            – Jake
            Dec 9 '18 at 8:52






            $begingroup$
            I don't really understand. Why are the 2 unknown cards $leq$ 5? How are you getting those numbers? What did I do wrong?@Robert Z
            $endgroup$
            – Jake
            Dec 9 '18 at 8:52














            $begingroup$
            I am editing my answer with more details. Have you the right result?
            $endgroup$
            – Robert Z
            Dec 9 '18 at 8:56




            $begingroup$
            I am editing my answer with more details. Have you the right result?
            $endgroup$
            – Robert Z
            Dec 9 '18 at 8:56












            $begingroup$
            @Jake Is it clear now? Are you able to get the final result?
            $endgroup$
            – Robert Z
            Dec 9 '18 at 9:28




            $begingroup$
            @Jake Is it clear now? Are you able to get the final result?
            $endgroup$
            – Robert Z
            Dec 9 '18 at 9:28












            $begingroup$
            Yes this is a lot clearer now! So the answer is just the sum $p_1 + p_2 + p_3$?
            $endgroup$
            – Jake
            Dec 9 '18 at 18:25




            $begingroup$
            Yes this is a lot clearer now! So the answer is just the sum $p_1 + p_2 + p_3$?
            $endgroup$
            – Jake
            Dec 9 '18 at 18:25












            $begingroup$
            Yes, that's it.
            $endgroup$
            – Robert Z
            Dec 9 '18 at 18:27




            $begingroup$
            Yes, that's it.
            $endgroup$
            – Robert Z
            Dec 9 '18 at 18:27











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            There are 48 unknown cards, including three 5's and four each of four denominations below 5, for a total of 19 good cards for you if you hit. Each of the 48 is equally likely as the card you get, so the probability of a good hit is $19/48$.






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              There are 48 unknown cards, including three 5's and four each of four denominations below 5, for a total of 19 good cards for you if you hit. Each of the 48 is equally likely as the card you get, so the probability of a good hit is $19/48$.






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                There are 48 unknown cards, including three 5's and four each of four denominations below 5, for a total of 19 good cards for you if you hit. Each of the 48 is equally likely as the card you get, so the probability of a good hit is $19/48$.






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                There are 48 unknown cards, including three 5's and four each of four denominations below 5, for a total of 19 good cards for you if you hit. Each of the 48 is equally likely as the card you get, so the probability of a good hit is $19/48$.







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