Blackjack: probability of being dealt a card of value less than or equal to 5 given this scenario?
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There is only one deck of cards in play which has just been reshuffled. Six cards are dealt -- two to you, two to another player, and two to the dealer. You have a king and a six, the other player is showing a five; and the dealer is showing a seven. You are the first to decide whether to hit or stay. If you hit, what is the probability of being dealt a card with a value less than or equal to 5 (aces included)?
My idea:
$P$(dealt a card $leq 5)$ = $P(5)$ + $P(4)$ + $P(3)$ + $P(2)$ + $P(ace)$.
To find $P(5)$, there are 3 cases:
1) The 2 unknown cards are 5s $implies$ $P(5)$ = $frac{1}{46}$.
2) 1 unknown card is a 5 $implies$ $P(5)$ = $frac{2}{46}$ + $frac{2}{46}$ = $frac{4}{46}$, since there are two ways this can happen.
3) None of the unknown cards is a 5 $implies$ $P(5)$ = $frac{3}{46}$.
Adding these up, $P(5) = frac{8}{46}.$
To find $P(4)$, we consider:
1) 2 unknowns are 4s, so $P(4) = frac{2}{46}$.
2) 1 unknown is a 4, so $P(4) = frac{3}{46} + frac{3}{46} = frac{6}{46}$, since there are two ways this can happen.
3) None is a 4, so $P(4)$ = $frac{4}{46}$.
So $P(4)$ = $frac{12}{46}.$
Now, $P(3)$, $P(2)$, and $P(ace)$ are the same as $P(4)$. So our final answer is the sum of these results, so $frac{8}{46} + 4(frac{12}{46}) = frac{56}{46}$... which obviously doesn't make sense. Where am I going wrong?
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There is only one deck of cards in play which has just been reshuffled. Six cards are dealt -- two to you, two to another player, and two to the dealer. You have a king and a six, the other player is showing a five; and the dealer is showing a seven. You are the first to decide whether to hit or stay. If you hit, what is the probability of being dealt a card with a value less than or equal to 5 (aces included)?
My idea:
$P$(dealt a card $leq 5)$ = $P(5)$ + $P(4)$ + $P(3)$ + $P(2)$ + $P(ace)$.
To find $P(5)$, there are 3 cases:
1) The 2 unknown cards are 5s $implies$ $P(5)$ = $frac{1}{46}$.
2) 1 unknown card is a 5 $implies$ $P(5)$ = $frac{2}{46}$ + $frac{2}{46}$ = $frac{4}{46}$, since there are two ways this can happen.
3) None of the unknown cards is a 5 $implies$ $P(5)$ = $frac{3}{46}$.
Adding these up, $P(5) = frac{8}{46}.$
To find $P(4)$, we consider:
1) 2 unknowns are 4s, so $P(4) = frac{2}{46}$.
2) 1 unknown is a 4, so $P(4) = frac{3}{46} + frac{3}{46} = frac{6}{46}$, since there are two ways this can happen.
3) None is a 4, so $P(4)$ = $frac{4}{46}$.
So $P(4)$ = $frac{12}{46}.$
Now, $P(3)$, $P(2)$, and $P(ace)$ are the same as $P(4)$. So our final answer is the sum of these results, so $frac{8}{46} + 4(frac{12}{46}) = frac{56}{46}$... which obviously doesn't make sense. Where am I going wrong?
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There is only one deck of cards in play which has just been reshuffled. Six cards are dealt -- two to you, two to another player, and two to the dealer. You have a king and a six, the other player is showing a five; and the dealer is showing a seven. You are the first to decide whether to hit or stay. If you hit, what is the probability of being dealt a card with a value less than or equal to 5 (aces included)?
My idea:
$P$(dealt a card $leq 5)$ = $P(5)$ + $P(4)$ + $P(3)$ + $P(2)$ + $P(ace)$.
To find $P(5)$, there are 3 cases:
1) The 2 unknown cards are 5s $implies$ $P(5)$ = $frac{1}{46}$.
2) 1 unknown card is a 5 $implies$ $P(5)$ = $frac{2}{46}$ + $frac{2}{46}$ = $frac{4}{46}$, since there are two ways this can happen.
3) None of the unknown cards is a 5 $implies$ $P(5)$ = $frac{3}{46}$.
Adding these up, $P(5) = frac{8}{46}.$
To find $P(4)$, we consider:
1) 2 unknowns are 4s, so $P(4) = frac{2}{46}$.
2) 1 unknown is a 4, so $P(4) = frac{3}{46} + frac{3}{46} = frac{6}{46}$, since there are two ways this can happen.
3) None is a 4, so $P(4)$ = $frac{4}{46}$.
So $P(4)$ = $frac{12}{46}.$
Now, $P(3)$, $P(2)$, and $P(ace)$ are the same as $P(4)$. So our final answer is the sum of these results, so $frac{8}{46} + 4(frac{12}{46}) = frac{56}{46}$... which obviously doesn't make sense. Where am I going wrong?
probability
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There is only one deck of cards in play which has just been reshuffled. Six cards are dealt -- two to you, two to another player, and two to the dealer. You have a king and a six, the other player is showing a five; and the dealer is showing a seven. You are the first to decide whether to hit or stay. If you hit, what is the probability of being dealt a card with a value less than or equal to 5 (aces included)?
My idea:
$P$(dealt a card $leq 5)$ = $P(5)$ + $P(4)$ + $P(3)$ + $P(2)$ + $P(ace)$.
To find $P(5)$, there are 3 cases:
1) The 2 unknown cards are 5s $implies$ $P(5)$ = $frac{1}{46}$.
2) 1 unknown card is a 5 $implies$ $P(5)$ = $frac{2}{46}$ + $frac{2}{46}$ = $frac{4}{46}$, since there are two ways this can happen.
3) None of the unknown cards is a 5 $implies$ $P(5)$ = $frac{3}{46}$.
Adding these up, $P(5) = frac{8}{46}.$
To find $P(4)$, we consider:
1) 2 unknowns are 4s, so $P(4) = frac{2}{46}$.
2) 1 unknown is a 4, so $P(4) = frac{3}{46} + frac{3}{46} = frac{6}{46}$, since there are two ways this can happen.
3) None is a 4, so $P(4)$ = $frac{4}{46}$.
So $P(4)$ = $frac{12}{46}.$
Now, $P(3)$, $P(2)$, and $P(ace)$ are the same as $P(4)$. So our final answer is the sum of these results, so $frac{8}{46} + 4(frac{12}{46}) = frac{56}{46}$... which obviously doesn't make sense. Where am I going wrong?
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"The 2 unknown cards are $5$s ⟹ $P(5) = 1/46$" is not correct.
Actually $1/46$ is the conditional probability that you got a $5$
after you know that the 2 unknown cards are $5$s. In order to obtain the correct probability you should multiply $1/46$ by $3/48cdot 2/47$ i.e. the probability that the 2 unknown cards are $5$s.
This is a hint which follows your approach (although there is a shorter way to find the required probability).
The unknown cards are $52-4=48$, $5cdot4-1=19$ are $leq 5$ and $48-19=29$ are $>5$. We consider $3$ distinct cases.
1) The $2$ unknown cards are $leq 5$s and you draw a card $leq 5$: in this case the probability is
$$p_1=underbrace{frac{19}{48}}_{text{prob. dealer has a card $leq 5$}}cdotunderbrace{frac{18}{47}}_{text{prob. other player has another card $leq 5$}}cdot underbrace{frac{17}{46}}_{text{prob. you get a card $leq 5$}}.$$
2) Only $1$ of the unknown cards is $leq 5$s and you draw a card $leq 5$: in this case the probability is
$$p_2=2cdot frac{19}{48}cdot frac{29}{47}cdot frac{18}{46}.$$
3) None of the unknown cards is $leq 5$s and you draw a card $leq 5$: in this case the probability is
$$p_3= frac{29}{48}cdot frac{28}{47}cdotfrac{19}{46}.$$
Can you take it from here?
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I don't really understand. Why are the 2 unknown cards $leq$ 5? How are you getting those numbers? What did I do wrong?@Robert Z
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Dec 9 '18 at 8:52
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I am editing my answer with more details. Have you the right result?
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– Robert Z
Dec 9 '18 at 8:56
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@Jake Is it clear now? Are you able to get the final result?
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– Robert Z
Dec 9 '18 at 9:28
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Yes this is a lot clearer now! So the answer is just the sum $p_1 + p_2 + p_3$?
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– Jake
Dec 9 '18 at 18:25
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Yes, that's it.
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There are 48 unknown cards, including three 5's and four each of four denominations below 5, for a total of 19 good cards for you if you hit. Each of the 48 is equally likely as the card you get, so the probability of a good hit is $19/48$.
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"The 2 unknown cards are $5$s ⟹ $P(5) = 1/46$" is not correct.
Actually $1/46$ is the conditional probability that you got a $5$
after you know that the 2 unknown cards are $5$s. In order to obtain the correct probability you should multiply $1/46$ by $3/48cdot 2/47$ i.e. the probability that the 2 unknown cards are $5$s.
This is a hint which follows your approach (although there is a shorter way to find the required probability).
The unknown cards are $52-4=48$, $5cdot4-1=19$ are $leq 5$ and $48-19=29$ are $>5$. We consider $3$ distinct cases.
1) The $2$ unknown cards are $leq 5$s and you draw a card $leq 5$: in this case the probability is
$$p_1=underbrace{frac{19}{48}}_{text{prob. dealer has a card $leq 5$}}cdotunderbrace{frac{18}{47}}_{text{prob. other player has another card $leq 5$}}cdot underbrace{frac{17}{46}}_{text{prob. you get a card $leq 5$}}.$$
2) Only $1$ of the unknown cards is $leq 5$s and you draw a card $leq 5$: in this case the probability is
$$p_2=2cdot frac{19}{48}cdot frac{29}{47}cdot frac{18}{46}.$$
3) None of the unknown cards is $leq 5$s and you draw a card $leq 5$: in this case the probability is
$$p_3= frac{29}{48}cdot frac{28}{47}cdotfrac{19}{46}.$$
Can you take it from here?
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I don't really understand. Why are the 2 unknown cards $leq$ 5? How are you getting those numbers? What did I do wrong?@Robert Z
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– Jake
Dec 9 '18 at 8:52
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I am editing my answer with more details. Have you the right result?
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– Robert Z
Dec 9 '18 at 8:56
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@Jake Is it clear now? Are you able to get the final result?
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– Robert Z
Dec 9 '18 at 9:28
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Yes this is a lot clearer now! So the answer is just the sum $p_1 + p_2 + p_3$?
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– Jake
Dec 9 '18 at 18:25
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Yes, that's it.
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– Robert Z
Dec 9 '18 at 18:27
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show 2 more comments
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"The 2 unknown cards are $5$s ⟹ $P(5) = 1/46$" is not correct.
Actually $1/46$ is the conditional probability that you got a $5$
after you know that the 2 unknown cards are $5$s. In order to obtain the correct probability you should multiply $1/46$ by $3/48cdot 2/47$ i.e. the probability that the 2 unknown cards are $5$s.
This is a hint which follows your approach (although there is a shorter way to find the required probability).
The unknown cards are $52-4=48$, $5cdot4-1=19$ are $leq 5$ and $48-19=29$ are $>5$. We consider $3$ distinct cases.
1) The $2$ unknown cards are $leq 5$s and you draw a card $leq 5$: in this case the probability is
$$p_1=underbrace{frac{19}{48}}_{text{prob. dealer has a card $leq 5$}}cdotunderbrace{frac{18}{47}}_{text{prob. other player has another card $leq 5$}}cdot underbrace{frac{17}{46}}_{text{prob. you get a card $leq 5$}}.$$
2) Only $1$ of the unknown cards is $leq 5$s and you draw a card $leq 5$: in this case the probability is
$$p_2=2cdot frac{19}{48}cdot frac{29}{47}cdot frac{18}{46}.$$
3) None of the unknown cards is $leq 5$s and you draw a card $leq 5$: in this case the probability is
$$p_3= frac{29}{48}cdot frac{28}{47}cdotfrac{19}{46}.$$
Can you take it from here?
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I don't really understand. Why are the 2 unknown cards $leq$ 5? How are you getting those numbers? What did I do wrong?@Robert Z
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– Jake
Dec 9 '18 at 8:52
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I am editing my answer with more details. Have you the right result?
$endgroup$
– Robert Z
Dec 9 '18 at 8:56
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@Jake Is it clear now? Are you able to get the final result?
$endgroup$
– Robert Z
Dec 9 '18 at 9:28
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Yes this is a lot clearer now! So the answer is just the sum $p_1 + p_2 + p_3$?
$endgroup$
– Jake
Dec 9 '18 at 18:25
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Yes, that's it.
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– Robert Z
Dec 9 '18 at 18:27
|
show 2 more comments
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"The 2 unknown cards are $5$s ⟹ $P(5) = 1/46$" is not correct.
Actually $1/46$ is the conditional probability that you got a $5$
after you know that the 2 unknown cards are $5$s. In order to obtain the correct probability you should multiply $1/46$ by $3/48cdot 2/47$ i.e. the probability that the 2 unknown cards are $5$s.
This is a hint which follows your approach (although there is a shorter way to find the required probability).
The unknown cards are $52-4=48$, $5cdot4-1=19$ are $leq 5$ and $48-19=29$ are $>5$. We consider $3$ distinct cases.
1) The $2$ unknown cards are $leq 5$s and you draw a card $leq 5$: in this case the probability is
$$p_1=underbrace{frac{19}{48}}_{text{prob. dealer has a card $leq 5$}}cdotunderbrace{frac{18}{47}}_{text{prob. other player has another card $leq 5$}}cdot underbrace{frac{17}{46}}_{text{prob. you get a card $leq 5$}}.$$
2) Only $1$ of the unknown cards is $leq 5$s and you draw a card $leq 5$: in this case the probability is
$$p_2=2cdot frac{19}{48}cdot frac{29}{47}cdot frac{18}{46}.$$
3) None of the unknown cards is $leq 5$s and you draw a card $leq 5$: in this case the probability is
$$p_3= frac{29}{48}cdot frac{28}{47}cdotfrac{19}{46}.$$
Can you take it from here?
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"The 2 unknown cards are $5$s ⟹ $P(5) = 1/46$" is not correct.
Actually $1/46$ is the conditional probability that you got a $5$
after you know that the 2 unknown cards are $5$s. In order to obtain the correct probability you should multiply $1/46$ by $3/48cdot 2/47$ i.e. the probability that the 2 unknown cards are $5$s.
This is a hint which follows your approach (although there is a shorter way to find the required probability).
The unknown cards are $52-4=48$, $5cdot4-1=19$ are $leq 5$ and $48-19=29$ are $>5$. We consider $3$ distinct cases.
1) The $2$ unknown cards are $leq 5$s and you draw a card $leq 5$: in this case the probability is
$$p_1=underbrace{frac{19}{48}}_{text{prob. dealer has a card $leq 5$}}cdotunderbrace{frac{18}{47}}_{text{prob. other player has another card $leq 5$}}cdot underbrace{frac{17}{46}}_{text{prob. you get a card $leq 5$}}.$$
2) Only $1$ of the unknown cards is $leq 5$s and you draw a card $leq 5$: in this case the probability is
$$p_2=2cdot frac{19}{48}cdot frac{29}{47}cdot frac{18}{46}.$$
3) None of the unknown cards is $leq 5$s and you draw a card $leq 5$: in this case the probability is
$$p_3= frac{29}{48}cdot frac{28}{47}cdotfrac{19}{46}.$$
Can you take it from here?
edited Dec 9 '18 at 14:37
answered Dec 9 '18 at 8:45
Robert ZRobert Z
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I don't really understand. Why are the 2 unknown cards $leq$ 5? How are you getting those numbers? What did I do wrong?@Robert Z
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– Jake
Dec 9 '18 at 8:52
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I am editing my answer with more details. Have you the right result?
$endgroup$
– Robert Z
Dec 9 '18 at 8:56
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@Jake Is it clear now? Are you able to get the final result?
$endgroup$
– Robert Z
Dec 9 '18 at 9:28
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Yes this is a lot clearer now! So the answer is just the sum $p_1 + p_2 + p_3$?
$endgroup$
– Jake
Dec 9 '18 at 18:25
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Yes, that's it.
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– Robert Z
Dec 9 '18 at 18:27
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show 2 more comments
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I don't really understand. Why are the 2 unknown cards $leq$ 5? How are you getting those numbers? What did I do wrong?@Robert Z
$endgroup$
– Jake
Dec 9 '18 at 8:52
$begingroup$
I am editing my answer with more details. Have you the right result?
$endgroup$
– Robert Z
Dec 9 '18 at 8:56
$begingroup$
@Jake Is it clear now? Are you able to get the final result?
$endgroup$
– Robert Z
Dec 9 '18 at 9:28
$begingroup$
Yes this is a lot clearer now! So the answer is just the sum $p_1 + p_2 + p_3$?
$endgroup$
– Jake
Dec 9 '18 at 18:25
$begingroup$
Yes, that's it.
$endgroup$
– Robert Z
Dec 9 '18 at 18:27
$begingroup$
I don't really understand. Why are the 2 unknown cards $leq$ 5? How are you getting those numbers? What did I do wrong?@Robert Z
$endgroup$
– Jake
Dec 9 '18 at 8:52
$begingroup$
I don't really understand. Why are the 2 unknown cards $leq$ 5? How are you getting those numbers? What did I do wrong?@Robert Z
$endgroup$
– Jake
Dec 9 '18 at 8:52
$begingroup$
I am editing my answer with more details. Have you the right result?
$endgroup$
– Robert Z
Dec 9 '18 at 8:56
$begingroup$
I am editing my answer with more details. Have you the right result?
$endgroup$
– Robert Z
Dec 9 '18 at 8:56
$begingroup$
@Jake Is it clear now? Are you able to get the final result?
$endgroup$
– Robert Z
Dec 9 '18 at 9:28
$begingroup$
@Jake Is it clear now? Are you able to get the final result?
$endgroup$
– Robert Z
Dec 9 '18 at 9:28
$begingroup$
Yes this is a lot clearer now! So the answer is just the sum $p_1 + p_2 + p_3$?
$endgroup$
– Jake
Dec 9 '18 at 18:25
$begingroup$
Yes this is a lot clearer now! So the answer is just the sum $p_1 + p_2 + p_3$?
$endgroup$
– Jake
Dec 9 '18 at 18:25
$begingroup$
Yes, that's it.
$endgroup$
– Robert Z
Dec 9 '18 at 18:27
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Yes, that's it.
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– Robert Z
Dec 9 '18 at 18:27
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There are 48 unknown cards, including three 5's and four each of four denominations below 5, for a total of 19 good cards for you if you hit. Each of the 48 is equally likely as the card you get, so the probability of a good hit is $19/48$.
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There are 48 unknown cards, including three 5's and four each of four denominations below 5, for a total of 19 good cards for you if you hit. Each of the 48 is equally likely as the card you get, so the probability of a good hit is $19/48$.
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There are 48 unknown cards, including three 5's and four each of four denominations below 5, for a total of 19 good cards for you if you hit. Each of the 48 is equally likely as the card you get, so the probability of a good hit is $19/48$.
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There are 48 unknown cards, including three 5's and four each of four denominations below 5, for a total of 19 good cards for you if you hit. Each of the 48 is equally likely as the card you get, so the probability of a good hit is $19/48$.
edited Dec 9 '18 at 11:26
answered Dec 9 '18 at 11:12
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