Stuck while solving systems of linear differential equations












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I want to solve the following differential equation:



$frac{dx}{dt}=-3x+y-8 \ frac{dy}{dt}=x-3y+8. $



I first rewrote the equations using the differential operator $D=frac{d}{dt}$ and eliminated the variable $y$.



begin{equation}
(D+3)x-y=-8, \x+(D+3)y=8.
end{equation}



therefore



$ (D^2+6D+8)x=-8D(1)-16$



which is equivalent to



begin{equation}
frac{d^2x}{dt^2}+6frac{dx}{dt}+8x=-8frac{d(1)}{dt}-16.
end{equation}



But the equation is not homogeneous! How would you solve it? Any help regardless of its form or length will be highly appreciated.










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    I want to solve the following differential equation:



    $frac{dx}{dt}=-3x+y-8 \ frac{dy}{dt}=x-3y+8. $



    I first rewrote the equations using the differential operator $D=frac{d}{dt}$ and eliminated the variable $y$.



    begin{equation}
    (D+3)x-y=-8, \x+(D+3)y=8.
    end{equation}



    therefore



    $ (D^2+6D+8)x=-8D(1)-16$



    which is equivalent to



    begin{equation}
    frac{d^2x}{dt^2}+6frac{dx}{dt}+8x=-8frac{d(1)}{dt}-16.
    end{equation}



    But the equation is not homogeneous! How would you solve it? Any help regardless of its form or length will be highly appreciated.










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      I want to solve the following differential equation:



      $frac{dx}{dt}=-3x+y-8 \ frac{dy}{dt}=x-3y+8. $



      I first rewrote the equations using the differential operator $D=frac{d}{dt}$ and eliminated the variable $y$.



      begin{equation}
      (D+3)x-y=-8, \x+(D+3)y=8.
      end{equation}



      therefore



      $ (D^2+6D+8)x=-8D(1)-16$



      which is equivalent to



      begin{equation}
      frac{d^2x}{dt^2}+6frac{dx}{dt}+8x=-8frac{d(1)}{dt}-16.
      end{equation}



      But the equation is not homogeneous! How would you solve it? Any help regardless of its form or length will be highly appreciated.










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      I want to solve the following differential equation:



      $frac{dx}{dt}=-3x+y-8 \ frac{dy}{dt}=x-3y+8. $



      I first rewrote the equations using the differential operator $D=frac{d}{dt}$ and eliminated the variable $y$.



      begin{equation}
      (D+3)x-y=-8, \x+(D+3)y=8.
      end{equation}



      therefore



      $ (D^2+6D+8)x=-8D(1)-16$



      which is equivalent to



      begin{equation}
      frac{d^2x}{dt^2}+6frac{dx}{dt}+8x=-8frac{d(1)}{dt}-16.
      end{equation}



      But the equation is not homogeneous! How would you solve it? Any help regardless of its form or length will be highly appreciated.







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          Given



          $$dfrac{dx}{dt}=-3x+y-8 \ dfrac{dy}{dt}=x-3y+8$$



          From the first equation we have



          $$y = x' + 3x + 8 implies y' = x'' + 3 x'$$



          Substituting into the second equation, we have



          $$x'' + 3 x = x - 3(x' + 3x + 8) + 8$$



          Simplifying



          $$x'' + 6 x' + 8 x + 16 = 0$$



          This results in



          $$x(t) = c_1 e^{-4 t}+c_2 e^{-2 t}-2$$



          You can use this result to find $y(t)$.



          There are many other ways to solve these types of problems, but I used your approach.






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            Thanks a lot!! I wish I had more time to study the theory of ODEs...
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            – Ko Byeongmin
            Dec 2 '18 at 2:36













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          Given



          $$dfrac{dx}{dt}=-3x+y-8 \ dfrac{dy}{dt}=x-3y+8$$



          From the first equation we have



          $$y = x' + 3x + 8 implies y' = x'' + 3 x'$$



          Substituting into the second equation, we have



          $$x'' + 3 x = x - 3(x' + 3x + 8) + 8$$



          Simplifying



          $$x'' + 6 x' + 8 x + 16 = 0$$



          This results in



          $$x(t) = c_1 e^{-4 t}+c_2 e^{-2 t}-2$$



          You can use this result to find $y(t)$.



          There are many other ways to solve these types of problems, but I used your approach.






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          • $begingroup$
            Thanks a lot!! I wish I had more time to study the theory of ODEs...
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            – Ko Byeongmin
            Dec 2 '18 at 2:36


















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          $begingroup$

          Given



          $$dfrac{dx}{dt}=-3x+y-8 \ dfrac{dy}{dt}=x-3y+8$$



          From the first equation we have



          $$y = x' + 3x + 8 implies y' = x'' + 3 x'$$



          Substituting into the second equation, we have



          $$x'' + 3 x = x - 3(x' + 3x + 8) + 8$$



          Simplifying



          $$x'' + 6 x' + 8 x + 16 = 0$$



          This results in



          $$x(t) = c_1 e^{-4 t}+c_2 e^{-2 t}-2$$



          You can use this result to find $y(t)$.



          There are many other ways to solve these types of problems, but I used your approach.






          share|cite|improve this answer











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          • $begingroup$
            Thanks a lot!! I wish I had more time to study the theory of ODEs...
            $endgroup$
            – Ko Byeongmin
            Dec 2 '18 at 2:36
















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          $begingroup$

          Given



          $$dfrac{dx}{dt}=-3x+y-8 \ dfrac{dy}{dt}=x-3y+8$$



          From the first equation we have



          $$y = x' + 3x + 8 implies y' = x'' + 3 x'$$



          Substituting into the second equation, we have



          $$x'' + 3 x = x - 3(x' + 3x + 8) + 8$$



          Simplifying



          $$x'' + 6 x' + 8 x + 16 = 0$$



          This results in



          $$x(t) = c_1 e^{-4 t}+c_2 e^{-2 t}-2$$



          You can use this result to find $y(t)$.



          There are many other ways to solve these types of problems, but I used your approach.






          share|cite|improve this answer











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          Given



          $$dfrac{dx}{dt}=-3x+y-8 \ dfrac{dy}{dt}=x-3y+8$$



          From the first equation we have



          $$y = x' + 3x + 8 implies y' = x'' + 3 x'$$



          Substituting into the second equation, we have



          $$x'' + 3 x = x - 3(x' + 3x + 8) + 8$$



          Simplifying



          $$x'' + 6 x' + 8 x + 16 = 0$$



          This results in



          $$x(t) = c_1 e^{-4 t}+c_2 e^{-2 t}-2$$



          You can use this result to find $y(t)$.



          There are many other ways to solve these types of problems, but I used your approach.







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          answered Dec 2 '18 at 2:33









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          • $begingroup$
            Thanks a lot!! I wish I had more time to study the theory of ODEs...
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            – Ko Byeongmin
            Dec 2 '18 at 2:36




















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            Thanks a lot!! I wish I had more time to study the theory of ODEs...
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            – Ko Byeongmin
            Dec 2 '18 at 2:36


















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          – Ko Byeongmin
          Dec 2 '18 at 2:36






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