Which $y$ is the zero vector that gives $x + mathbf0 = max{(x, mathbf0)}= x$ for every $x$?











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This was a note in my Linear Algebra textbook after the column space chapter. I'm so confused. Is the answer: "$y$ is the $n$ dimensional column vector where each element is negative infinity." ?



Note : An interesting “max-plus” vector space comes from the real numbers $mathbf R$ combined with $-infty$. Change addition to give $x + y = max{(x, y)}$ and change multiplication to $xy =$ usual $x + y$. Which $y$ is the zero vector that gives $x + 0 = max{(x, 0)} = x$ for every $x$?



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  • Is this tropical algebra? That certainly is not a vector space operation.
    – Matt Samuel
    Nov 19 at 2:37










  • The answer is $-infty$, except the question is ill posed because it's just not a vector space. Is this translated from another language?
    – Matt Samuel
    Nov 19 at 2:40










  • @MattSamuel Okay thanks. No it's not translated, literally a note in the answer key. I'm studying normal linear algebra so it's definitely not tropical algebra.
    – Bn.F76
    Nov 19 at 2:42










  • Well that's basically the definition of a tropical ring. Maybe the author was studying tropical algebra while writing this and hastily added this confused note.
    – Matt Samuel
    Nov 19 at 2:44










  • Got it. Thanks for the insight. The author is Gilbert Strang.
    – Bn.F76
    Nov 19 at 2:45















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This was a note in my Linear Algebra textbook after the column space chapter. I'm so confused. Is the answer: "$y$ is the $n$ dimensional column vector where each element is negative infinity." ?



Note : An interesting “max-plus” vector space comes from the real numbers $mathbf R$ combined with $-infty$. Change addition to give $x + y = max{(x, y)}$ and change multiplication to $xy =$ usual $x + y$. Which $y$ is the zero vector that gives $x + 0 = max{(x, 0)} = x$ for every $x$?



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  • Is this tropical algebra? That certainly is not a vector space operation.
    – Matt Samuel
    Nov 19 at 2:37










  • The answer is $-infty$, except the question is ill posed because it's just not a vector space. Is this translated from another language?
    – Matt Samuel
    Nov 19 at 2:40










  • @MattSamuel Okay thanks. No it's not translated, literally a note in the answer key. I'm studying normal linear algebra so it's definitely not tropical algebra.
    – Bn.F76
    Nov 19 at 2:42










  • Well that's basically the definition of a tropical ring. Maybe the author was studying tropical algebra while writing this and hastily added this confused note.
    – Matt Samuel
    Nov 19 at 2:44










  • Got it. Thanks for the insight. The author is Gilbert Strang.
    – Bn.F76
    Nov 19 at 2:45













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This was a note in my Linear Algebra textbook after the column space chapter. I'm so confused. Is the answer: "$y$ is the $n$ dimensional column vector where each element is negative infinity." ?



Note : An interesting “max-plus” vector space comes from the real numbers $mathbf R$ combined with $-infty$. Change addition to give $x + y = max{(x, y)}$ and change multiplication to $xy =$ usual $x + y$. Which $y$ is the zero vector that gives $x + 0 = max{(x, 0)} = x$ for every $x$?



edit: here is a picture










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This was a note in my Linear Algebra textbook after the column space chapter. I'm so confused. Is the answer: "$y$ is the $n$ dimensional column vector where each element is negative infinity." ?



Note : An interesting “max-plus” vector space comes from the real numbers $mathbf R$ combined with $-infty$. Change addition to give $x + y = max{(x, y)}$ and change multiplication to $xy =$ usual $x + y$. Which $y$ is the zero vector that gives $x + 0 = max{(x, 0)} = x$ for every $x$?



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  • Is this tropical algebra? That certainly is not a vector space operation.
    – Matt Samuel
    Nov 19 at 2:37










  • The answer is $-infty$, except the question is ill posed because it's just not a vector space. Is this translated from another language?
    – Matt Samuel
    Nov 19 at 2:40










  • @MattSamuel Okay thanks. No it's not translated, literally a note in the answer key. I'm studying normal linear algebra so it's definitely not tropical algebra.
    – Bn.F76
    Nov 19 at 2:42










  • Well that's basically the definition of a tropical ring. Maybe the author was studying tropical algebra while writing this and hastily added this confused note.
    – Matt Samuel
    Nov 19 at 2:44










  • Got it. Thanks for the insight. The author is Gilbert Strang.
    – Bn.F76
    Nov 19 at 2:45


















  • Is this tropical algebra? That certainly is not a vector space operation.
    – Matt Samuel
    Nov 19 at 2:37










  • The answer is $-infty$, except the question is ill posed because it's just not a vector space. Is this translated from another language?
    – Matt Samuel
    Nov 19 at 2:40










  • @MattSamuel Okay thanks. No it's not translated, literally a note in the answer key. I'm studying normal linear algebra so it's definitely not tropical algebra.
    – Bn.F76
    Nov 19 at 2:42










  • Well that's basically the definition of a tropical ring. Maybe the author was studying tropical algebra while writing this and hastily added this confused note.
    – Matt Samuel
    Nov 19 at 2:44










  • Got it. Thanks for the insight. The author is Gilbert Strang.
    – Bn.F76
    Nov 19 at 2:45
















Is this tropical algebra? That certainly is not a vector space operation.
– Matt Samuel
Nov 19 at 2:37




Is this tropical algebra? That certainly is not a vector space operation.
– Matt Samuel
Nov 19 at 2:37












The answer is $-infty$, except the question is ill posed because it's just not a vector space. Is this translated from another language?
– Matt Samuel
Nov 19 at 2:40




The answer is $-infty$, except the question is ill posed because it's just not a vector space. Is this translated from another language?
– Matt Samuel
Nov 19 at 2:40












@MattSamuel Okay thanks. No it's not translated, literally a note in the answer key. I'm studying normal linear algebra so it's definitely not tropical algebra.
– Bn.F76
Nov 19 at 2:42




@MattSamuel Okay thanks. No it's not translated, literally a note in the answer key. I'm studying normal linear algebra so it's definitely not tropical algebra.
– Bn.F76
Nov 19 at 2:42












Well that's basically the definition of a tropical ring. Maybe the author was studying tropical algebra while writing this and hastily added this confused note.
– Matt Samuel
Nov 19 at 2:44




Well that's basically the definition of a tropical ring. Maybe the author was studying tropical algebra while writing this and hastily added this confused note.
– Matt Samuel
Nov 19 at 2:44












Got it. Thanks for the insight. The author is Gilbert Strang.
– Bn.F76
Nov 19 at 2:45




Got it. Thanks for the insight. The author is Gilbert Strang.
– Bn.F76
Nov 19 at 2:45















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