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Question: Ben goes to the market and pays $12 for apples (amount unknown), but they were so small that the cashier gave Ben two apples for free. In this way, the price for a dozen apples dropped by exactly $1. How many apples did Ben get for $12?










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    If Ben initially bought $n$ apples, what is the per apple price? After two free apples have been added, what is the new per apple price (as a function of $n$)?
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Question: Ben goes to the market and pays $12 for apples (amount unknown), but they were so small that the cashier gave Ben two apples for free. In this way, the price for a dozen apples dropped by exactly $1. How many apples did Ben get for $12?







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    If Ben initially bought $n$ apples, what is the per apple price? After two free apples have been added, what is the new per apple price (as a function of $n$)?
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    If Ben initially bought $n$ apples, what is the per apple price? After two free apples have been added, what is the new per apple price (as a function of $n$)?
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If Ben initially bought $n$ apples, what is the per apple price? After two free apples have been added, what is the new per apple price (as a function of $n$)?
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If Ben initially bought $n$ apples, what is the per apple price? After two free apples have been added, what is the new per apple price (as a function of $n$)?
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Let's define



$p$ - regular prize of the apples per apple



$p^*$ - reduced prize of the apples per apple



$n$ - number of apples originally bought



Then we have the following equations:



$ncdot p=12$ - he payed 12 dollars



$(n+2)cdot p^*=12$ - he payed 12 dollars for two more apples with the fictional reduced prize



$pcdot 12 = p^*cdot12+1$ - the price for a dozen apples is reduced by 1



Solving these equations leads to a quadatric equation which has two possible solutions $n=16$ or $n = -18$.



Please feel free to comment if you like to see the way to actually solve the equations not just the set up.






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    • Let $x$ be the number of apples and $p$ the price per apple. In this case, $12p$ is the price per dozen.


    • Ben received $x+2$ apples at a price of $xp=12$. Therefore, the price per apple is $frac{xp}{x+2}$. The cost for a dozen is now $frac{12xp}{x+2}$.


    • The $$1$ price drop means that
      $$
      12p=frac{xp}{x+2}+1
      $$



    Now, combine this equation with $xp=12$ and solve. Can you take it from here?






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      Let the original price of each apple be x.



      Let $n$ be the number of apples Ben got before getting the $2$ apples for free.



      $begin{equation}label{eq:a}tag{1}therefore nx=$12end{equation}$



      Now Ben got $n+2$ apples.



      $therefore$ The new price per apple will be $dfrac{12}{n+2}=x'(say)$



      given that $12x-12x'=1$ (difference given is $$1$)



      Now from equation $(1)$ $x=dfrac{12}{n}$



      solving we get $n=16$






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        Let's define



        $p$ - regular prize of the apples per apple



        $p^*$ - reduced prize of the apples per apple



        $n$ - number of apples originally bought



        Then we have the following equations:



        $ncdot p=12$ - he payed 12 dollars



        $(n+2)cdot p^*=12$ - he payed 12 dollars for two more apples with the fictional reduced prize



        $pcdot 12 = p^*cdot12+1$ - the price for a dozen apples is reduced by 1



        Solving these equations leads to a quadatric equation which has two possible solutions $n=16$ or $n = -18$.



        Please feel free to comment if you like to see the way to actually solve the equations not just the set up.






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          Let's define



          $p$ - regular prize of the apples per apple



          $p^*$ - reduced prize of the apples per apple



          $n$ - number of apples originally bought



          Then we have the following equations:



          $ncdot p=12$ - he payed 12 dollars



          $(n+2)cdot p^*=12$ - he payed 12 dollars for two more apples with the fictional reduced prize



          $pcdot 12 = p^*cdot12+1$ - the price for a dozen apples is reduced by 1



          Solving these equations leads to a quadatric equation which has two possible solutions $n=16$ or $n = -18$.



          Please feel free to comment if you like to see the way to actually solve the equations not just the set up.






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            Let's define



            $p$ - regular prize of the apples per apple



            $p^*$ - reduced prize of the apples per apple



            $n$ - number of apples originally bought



            Then we have the following equations:



            $ncdot p=12$ - he payed 12 dollars



            $(n+2)cdot p^*=12$ - he payed 12 dollars for two more apples with the fictional reduced prize



            $pcdot 12 = p^*cdot12+1$ - the price for a dozen apples is reduced by 1



            Solving these equations leads to a quadatric equation which has two possible solutions $n=16$ or $n = -18$.



            Please feel free to comment if you like to see the way to actually solve the equations not just the set up.






            share|cite|improve this answer












            Let's define



            $p$ - regular prize of the apples per apple



            $p^*$ - reduced prize of the apples per apple



            $n$ - number of apples originally bought



            Then we have the following equations:



            $ncdot p=12$ - he payed 12 dollars



            $(n+2)cdot p^*=12$ - he payed 12 dollars for two more apples with the fictional reduced prize



            $pcdot 12 = p^*cdot12+1$ - the price for a dozen apples is reduced by 1



            Solving these equations leads to a quadatric equation which has two possible solutions $n=16$ or $n = -18$.



            Please feel free to comment if you like to see the way to actually solve the equations not just the set up.







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                • Let $x$ be the number of apples and $p$ the price per apple. In this case, $12p$ is the price per dozen.


                • Ben received $x+2$ apples at a price of $xp=12$. Therefore, the price per apple is $frac{xp}{x+2}$. The cost for a dozen is now $frac{12xp}{x+2}$.


                • The $$1$ price drop means that
                  $$
                  12p=frac{xp}{x+2}+1
                  $$



                Now, combine this equation with $xp=12$ and solve. Can you take it from here?






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                  • Let $x$ be the number of apples and $p$ the price per apple. In this case, $12p$ is the price per dozen.


                  • Ben received $x+2$ apples at a price of $xp=12$. Therefore, the price per apple is $frac{xp}{x+2}$. The cost for a dozen is now $frac{12xp}{x+2}$.


                  • The $$1$ price drop means that
                    $$
                    12p=frac{xp}{x+2}+1
                    $$



                  Now, combine this equation with $xp=12$ and solve. Can you take it from here?






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                    • Let $x$ be the number of apples and $p$ the price per apple. In this case, $12p$ is the price per dozen.


                    • Ben received $x+2$ apples at a price of $xp=12$. Therefore, the price per apple is $frac{xp}{x+2}$. The cost for a dozen is now $frac{12xp}{x+2}$.


                    • The $$1$ price drop means that
                      $$
                      12p=frac{xp}{x+2}+1
                      $$



                    Now, combine this equation with $xp=12$ and solve. Can you take it from here?






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                    Sketch




                    • Let $x$ be the number of apples and $p$ the price per apple. In this case, $12p$ is the price per dozen.


                    • Ben received $x+2$ apples at a price of $xp=12$. Therefore, the price per apple is $frac{xp}{x+2}$. The cost for a dozen is now $frac{12xp}{x+2}$.


                    • The $$1$ price drop means that
                      $$
                      12p=frac{xp}{x+2}+1
                      $$



                    Now, combine this equation with $xp=12$ and solve. Can you take it from here?







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                        Let the original price of each apple be x.



                        Let $n$ be the number of apples Ben got before getting the $2$ apples for free.



                        $begin{equation}label{eq:a}tag{1}therefore nx=$12end{equation}$



                        Now Ben got $n+2$ apples.



                        $therefore$ The new price per apple will be $dfrac{12}{n+2}=x'(say)$



                        given that $12x-12x'=1$ (difference given is $$1$)



                        Now from equation $(1)$ $x=dfrac{12}{n}$



                        solving we get $n=16$






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                          Let the original price of each apple be x.



                          Let $n$ be the number of apples Ben got before getting the $2$ apples for free.



                          $begin{equation}label{eq:a}tag{1}therefore nx=$12end{equation}$



                          Now Ben got $n+2$ apples.



                          $therefore$ The new price per apple will be $dfrac{12}{n+2}=x'(say)$



                          given that $12x-12x'=1$ (difference given is $$1$)



                          Now from equation $(1)$ $x=dfrac{12}{n}$



                          solving we get $n=16$






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                            Let the original price of each apple be x.



                            Let $n$ be the number of apples Ben got before getting the $2$ apples for free.



                            $begin{equation}label{eq:a}tag{1}therefore nx=$12end{equation}$



                            Now Ben got $n+2$ apples.



                            $therefore$ The new price per apple will be $dfrac{12}{n+2}=x'(say)$



                            given that $12x-12x'=1$ (difference given is $$1$)



                            Now from equation $(1)$ $x=dfrac{12}{n}$



                            solving we get $n=16$






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                            Let the original price of each apple be x.



                            Let $n$ be the number of apples Ben got before getting the $2$ apples for free.



                            $begin{equation}label{eq:a}tag{1}therefore nx=$12end{equation}$



                            Now Ben got $n+2$ apples.



                            $therefore$ The new price per apple will be $dfrac{12}{n+2}=x'(say)$



                            given that $12x-12x'=1$ (difference given is $$1$)



                            Now from equation $(1)$ $x=dfrac{12}{n}$



                            solving we get $n=16$







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