Why can all solutions to the simple harmonic motion equation be written in terms of sines and cosines?












10












$begingroup$


The defining property of SHM (simple harmonic motion) is that the force experienced at any value of displacement from the mean position is directly proportional to it and is directed towards the mean position, i.e. $F=-k(x)$.



From this,
$$mleft(frac{d^2x}{dt^2}right) +kx=0.$$



Then I read from this site




Let us interpret this equation. The second derivative of a function of x plus the function itself (times a constant) is equal to zero. Thus the second derivative of our function must have the same form as the function itself. What readily comes to mind is the sine and cosine function.




How can we assume so plainly that it should be sin or cosine only? They do satisfy the equation, but why are they brought into the picture so directly? What I want to ask is: why can the SHM displacement, velocity etc. be expressed in terms of sin and cosine? I know the "SHM is the projection of uniform circular motion" proof, but an algebraic proof would be appreciated.










share|cite|improve this question











$endgroup$












  • $begingroup$
    Now that the question has been closed and re-opened, I've removed an obsolete discussion about its on-topic-ness.
    $endgroup$
    – rob
    Feb 23 at 22:00
















10












$begingroup$


The defining property of SHM (simple harmonic motion) is that the force experienced at any value of displacement from the mean position is directly proportional to it and is directed towards the mean position, i.e. $F=-k(x)$.



From this,
$$mleft(frac{d^2x}{dt^2}right) +kx=0.$$



Then I read from this site




Let us interpret this equation. The second derivative of a function of x plus the function itself (times a constant) is equal to zero. Thus the second derivative of our function must have the same form as the function itself. What readily comes to mind is the sine and cosine function.




How can we assume so plainly that it should be sin or cosine only? They do satisfy the equation, but why are they brought into the picture so directly? What I want to ask is: why can the SHM displacement, velocity etc. be expressed in terms of sin and cosine? I know the "SHM is the projection of uniform circular motion" proof, but an algebraic proof would be appreciated.










share|cite|improve this question











$endgroup$












  • $begingroup$
    Now that the question has been closed and re-opened, I've removed an obsolete discussion about its on-topic-ness.
    $endgroup$
    – rob
    Feb 23 at 22:00














10












10








10


4



$begingroup$


The defining property of SHM (simple harmonic motion) is that the force experienced at any value of displacement from the mean position is directly proportional to it and is directed towards the mean position, i.e. $F=-k(x)$.



From this,
$$mleft(frac{d^2x}{dt^2}right) +kx=0.$$



Then I read from this site




Let us interpret this equation. The second derivative of a function of x plus the function itself (times a constant) is equal to zero. Thus the second derivative of our function must have the same form as the function itself. What readily comes to mind is the sine and cosine function.




How can we assume so plainly that it should be sin or cosine only? They do satisfy the equation, but why are they brought into the picture so directly? What I want to ask is: why can the SHM displacement, velocity etc. be expressed in terms of sin and cosine? I know the "SHM is the projection of uniform circular motion" proof, but an algebraic proof would be appreciated.










share|cite|improve this question











$endgroup$




The defining property of SHM (simple harmonic motion) is that the force experienced at any value of displacement from the mean position is directly proportional to it and is directed towards the mean position, i.e. $F=-k(x)$.



From this,
$$mleft(frac{d^2x}{dt^2}right) +kx=0.$$



Then I read from this site




Let us interpret this equation. The second derivative of a function of x plus the function itself (times a constant) is equal to zero. Thus the second derivative of our function must have the same form as the function itself. What readily comes to mind is the sine and cosine function.




How can we assume so plainly that it should be sin or cosine only? They do satisfy the equation, but why are they brought into the picture so directly? What I want to ask is: why can the SHM displacement, velocity etc. be expressed in terms of sin and cosine? I know the "SHM is the projection of uniform circular motion" proof, but an algebraic proof would be appreciated.







newtonian-mechanics waves harmonic-oscillator spring differential-equations






share|cite|improve this question















share|cite|improve this question













share|cite|improve this question




share|cite|improve this question








edited Feb 22 at 18:05









Qmechanic

105k121911206




105k121911206










asked Feb 22 at 10:45









ADITYA PRAKASHADITYA PRAKASH

1078




1078












  • $begingroup$
    Now that the question has been closed and re-opened, I've removed an obsolete discussion about its on-topic-ness.
    $endgroup$
    – rob
    Feb 23 at 22:00


















  • $begingroup$
    Now that the question has been closed and re-opened, I've removed an obsolete discussion about its on-topic-ness.
    $endgroup$
    – rob
    Feb 23 at 22:00
















$begingroup$
Now that the question has been closed and re-opened, I've removed an obsolete discussion about its on-topic-ness.
$endgroup$
– rob
Feb 23 at 22:00




$begingroup$
Now that the question has been closed and re-opened, I've removed an obsolete discussion about its on-topic-ness.
$endgroup$
– rob
Feb 23 at 22:00










4 Answers
4






active

oldest

votes


















27












$begingroup$

This follows from the uniqueness theorem for solutions of ordinary differential equations, which states that for a homogeneous linear ordinary differential equation of order $n$, there are at most $n$ linearly independent solutions.



The upshot of that is that if you have a second-order ODE (like, say, the one for the harmonic oscillator) and you can construct, through whatever means you can come up with, two linearly-independent solutions, then you're guaranteed that any solution of the equation will be a linear combination of your two solutions.



Thus, it doesn't matter at all how it is that you come to the proposal of $sin(omega t)$ and $cos(omega t)$ as prospective solutions: all you need to do is




  1. verify that they are solutions, i.e. just plug them into the derivatives and see if the result is identically zero; and

  2. check that they're linearly independent.


Once you do that, the details of how you built your solutions become completely irrelevant. Because of this, I (and many others) generally refer to this as the Method of Divine Inspiration: I can just tell you that the solution came to me in a dream, handed over by a flying mass of spaghetti, and $-$ no matter how contrived or elaborate the solution looks $-$ if it passes the two criteria above, the fact that it is the solution is bulletproof, and no further explanation of how it was built is required.



If this framework is unclear or unfamiliar, then you should sit down with an introductory textbook on differential equations. There's a substantial bit of background that makes this sort of thing clearer, and which simply doesn't fit within this site's format.






share|cite|improve this answer











$endgroup$













  • $begingroup$
    There were some comments that were not terribly relevant to the post and looked like they might be spawning a discussion; I've moved them to chat in case people would like to continue there.
    $endgroup$
    – David Z
    Feb 22 at 23:35





















8












$begingroup$


How can we assume so plainly that it should be sin or cosine only




It's literally just a guess. Those're obvious solutions which can be verified easily, and when they're such straightforward functions, you'll soon just be able to notice them. It's the like when you have an equation like $f'(x)=Ktimes f(x)$, you just see that the solutions are exponentials. After that, you know that for a differential equation like $f^{(n)}(x)=Kf(x)$ you can have upto $n$ solutions, so you aren't missing anything when you consider the sine and cosine.



It's a nice idea to not waste time/effort/space formally solving such equations when the solutions are canonical.






share|cite|improve this answer











$endgroup$





















    6












    $begingroup$

    These are all good and correct answers, but I will answer from a different perspective.



    Any linear-differential equation of degree $n$ has $n$ linearly independent solutions, ie. these $n$ solutions span a vector space, with sets of solutions forming a basis.



    For simple harmonic motion, the differential equation is:



    $$m(dfrac{d^2x}{dt^2})+kx = 0$$



    As stated in other answers, one can take the solutions to be linear combinations of $sin(omega t)$ and $cos(omega t)$, or one could take $exp(iomega t)$ and $exp(-iomega t)$. These are both sets of linearly independent functions, and both pairs solve the equation, yet they are not the same functions - they are two different sets of basis functions.



    To get from one set of solution to another, one needs to change the basis.






    share|cite|improve this answer











    $endgroup$





















      3












      $begingroup$

      One way of deriving it is using Taylor series (although to be fully rigorous, this requires further justification for restricting to analytic functions). We have that $f(x) = sum a_n x^t$, so $f''(t)=sum (n+1)(n+2)a_{n+2}t^n$. If $f''(t)=-frac k m f(t)$, then $(n+1)(n+2)a_{n+2} = -frac k m a_n$, so $a_{n+2} = frac {-k a_n}{(n+1)(n+2)m}$. So $a_0$ determines $a_2$, which determines $a_4$, etc., and $a_1$ determines $a_3$ which determines $a_5$, and so on. Since all of the even terms vary linearly based on the 0th term, and don't depend on the odd terms, and vice versa for the odd terms, we can find a solution $f_0$ by taking $a_0=1, a_1=0$ and $f_1$ from $a_0=0, a_1=1$, and all solutions will be a linear combination of $f_0$ and $f_1$. And if you work out what those solutions are, they correspond to cosine and sine, respectively.



      You can also get to sine and cosine by taking $f(t)=e^{at}$. Then $f''(t)=a^2e^{at}$, so if $f'' = -frac km f$, then $a^2= -frac km$. This leads to the two solutions $a = pm isqrt{frac km}$. Neither root gives a real solution, but $f(x) = frac 12 (e^{ct} + e^{-ct})$ and $f(x) = frac 1{2i} (e^{ct} - e^{-ct})$, where $c = isqrt{frac km}$, do. Those correspond to cosine and sine.






      share|cite|improve this answer









      $endgroup$













        Your Answer





        StackExchange.ifUsing("editor", function () {
        return StackExchange.using("mathjaxEditing", function () {
        StackExchange.MarkdownEditor.creationCallbacks.add(function (editor, postfix) {
        StackExchange.mathjaxEditing.prepareWmdForMathJax(editor, postfix, [["$", "$"], ["\\(","\\)"]]);
        });
        });
        }, "mathjax-editing");

        StackExchange.ready(function() {
        var channelOptions = {
        tags: "".split(" "),
        id: "151"
        };
        initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);

        StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function() {
        // Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
        if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled) {
        StackExchange.using("snippets", function() {
        createEditor();
        });
        }
        else {
        createEditor();
        }
        });

        function createEditor() {
        StackExchange.prepareEditor({
        heartbeatType: 'answer',
        autoActivateHeartbeat: false,
        convertImagesToLinks: false,
        noModals: true,
        showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
        reputationToPostImages: null,
        bindNavPrevention: true,
        postfix: "",
        imageUploader: {
        brandingHtml: "Powered by u003ca class="icon-imgur-white" href="https://imgur.com/"u003eu003c/au003e",
        contentPolicyHtml: "User contributions licensed under u003ca href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/"u003ecc by-sa 3.0 with attribution requiredu003c/au003e u003ca href="https://stackoverflow.com/legal/content-policy"u003e(content policy)u003c/au003e",
        allowUrls: true
        },
        noCode: true, onDemand: true,
        discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
        ,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
        });


        }
        });














        draft saved

        draft discarded


















        StackExchange.ready(
        function () {
        StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fphysics.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f462245%2fwhy-can-all-solutions-to-the-simple-harmonic-motion-equation-be-written-in-terms%23new-answer', 'question_page');
        }
        );

        Post as a guest















        Required, but never shown

























        4 Answers
        4






        active

        oldest

        votes








        4 Answers
        4






        active

        oldest

        votes









        active

        oldest

        votes






        active

        oldest

        votes









        27












        $begingroup$

        This follows from the uniqueness theorem for solutions of ordinary differential equations, which states that for a homogeneous linear ordinary differential equation of order $n$, there are at most $n$ linearly independent solutions.



        The upshot of that is that if you have a second-order ODE (like, say, the one for the harmonic oscillator) and you can construct, through whatever means you can come up with, two linearly-independent solutions, then you're guaranteed that any solution of the equation will be a linear combination of your two solutions.



        Thus, it doesn't matter at all how it is that you come to the proposal of $sin(omega t)$ and $cos(omega t)$ as prospective solutions: all you need to do is




        1. verify that they are solutions, i.e. just plug them into the derivatives and see if the result is identically zero; and

        2. check that they're linearly independent.


        Once you do that, the details of how you built your solutions become completely irrelevant. Because of this, I (and many others) generally refer to this as the Method of Divine Inspiration: I can just tell you that the solution came to me in a dream, handed over by a flying mass of spaghetti, and $-$ no matter how contrived or elaborate the solution looks $-$ if it passes the two criteria above, the fact that it is the solution is bulletproof, and no further explanation of how it was built is required.



        If this framework is unclear or unfamiliar, then you should sit down with an introductory textbook on differential equations. There's a substantial bit of background that makes this sort of thing clearer, and which simply doesn't fit within this site's format.






        share|cite|improve this answer











        $endgroup$













        • $begingroup$
          There were some comments that were not terribly relevant to the post and looked like they might be spawning a discussion; I've moved them to chat in case people would like to continue there.
          $endgroup$
          – David Z
          Feb 22 at 23:35


















        27












        $begingroup$

        This follows from the uniqueness theorem for solutions of ordinary differential equations, which states that for a homogeneous linear ordinary differential equation of order $n$, there are at most $n$ linearly independent solutions.



        The upshot of that is that if you have a second-order ODE (like, say, the one for the harmonic oscillator) and you can construct, through whatever means you can come up with, two linearly-independent solutions, then you're guaranteed that any solution of the equation will be a linear combination of your two solutions.



        Thus, it doesn't matter at all how it is that you come to the proposal of $sin(omega t)$ and $cos(omega t)$ as prospective solutions: all you need to do is




        1. verify that they are solutions, i.e. just plug them into the derivatives and see if the result is identically zero; and

        2. check that they're linearly independent.


        Once you do that, the details of how you built your solutions become completely irrelevant. Because of this, I (and many others) generally refer to this as the Method of Divine Inspiration: I can just tell you that the solution came to me in a dream, handed over by a flying mass of spaghetti, and $-$ no matter how contrived or elaborate the solution looks $-$ if it passes the two criteria above, the fact that it is the solution is bulletproof, and no further explanation of how it was built is required.



        If this framework is unclear or unfamiliar, then you should sit down with an introductory textbook on differential equations. There's a substantial bit of background that makes this sort of thing clearer, and which simply doesn't fit within this site's format.






        share|cite|improve this answer











        $endgroup$













        • $begingroup$
          There were some comments that were not terribly relevant to the post and looked like they might be spawning a discussion; I've moved them to chat in case people would like to continue there.
          $endgroup$
          – David Z
          Feb 22 at 23:35
















        27












        27








        27





        $begingroup$

        This follows from the uniqueness theorem for solutions of ordinary differential equations, which states that for a homogeneous linear ordinary differential equation of order $n$, there are at most $n$ linearly independent solutions.



        The upshot of that is that if you have a second-order ODE (like, say, the one for the harmonic oscillator) and you can construct, through whatever means you can come up with, two linearly-independent solutions, then you're guaranteed that any solution of the equation will be a linear combination of your two solutions.



        Thus, it doesn't matter at all how it is that you come to the proposal of $sin(omega t)$ and $cos(omega t)$ as prospective solutions: all you need to do is




        1. verify that they are solutions, i.e. just plug them into the derivatives and see if the result is identically zero; and

        2. check that they're linearly independent.


        Once you do that, the details of how you built your solutions become completely irrelevant. Because of this, I (and many others) generally refer to this as the Method of Divine Inspiration: I can just tell you that the solution came to me in a dream, handed over by a flying mass of spaghetti, and $-$ no matter how contrived or elaborate the solution looks $-$ if it passes the two criteria above, the fact that it is the solution is bulletproof, and no further explanation of how it was built is required.



        If this framework is unclear or unfamiliar, then you should sit down with an introductory textbook on differential equations. There's a substantial bit of background that makes this sort of thing clearer, and which simply doesn't fit within this site's format.






        share|cite|improve this answer











        $endgroup$



        This follows from the uniqueness theorem for solutions of ordinary differential equations, which states that for a homogeneous linear ordinary differential equation of order $n$, there are at most $n$ linearly independent solutions.



        The upshot of that is that if you have a second-order ODE (like, say, the one for the harmonic oscillator) and you can construct, through whatever means you can come up with, two linearly-independent solutions, then you're guaranteed that any solution of the equation will be a linear combination of your two solutions.



        Thus, it doesn't matter at all how it is that you come to the proposal of $sin(omega t)$ and $cos(omega t)$ as prospective solutions: all you need to do is




        1. verify that they are solutions, i.e. just plug them into the derivatives and see if the result is identically zero; and

        2. check that they're linearly independent.


        Once you do that, the details of how you built your solutions become completely irrelevant. Because of this, I (and many others) generally refer to this as the Method of Divine Inspiration: I can just tell you that the solution came to me in a dream, handed over by a flying mass of spaghetti, and $-$ no matter how contrived or elaborate the solution looks $-$ if it passes the two criteria above, the fact that it is the solution is bulletproof, and no further explanation of how it was built is required.



        If this framework is unclear or unfamiliar, then you should sit down with an introductory textbook on differential equations. There's a substantial bit of background that makes this sort of thing clearer, and which simply doesn't fit within this site's format.







        share|cite|improve this answer














        share|cite|improve this answer



        share|cite|improve this answer








        edited Feb 22 at 11:27

























        answered Feb 22 at 11:03









        Emilio PisantyEmilio Pisanty

        83.8k22207422




        83.8k22207422












        • $begingroup$
          There were some comments that were not terribly relevant to the post and looked like they might be spawning a discussion; I've moved them to chat in case people would like to continue there.
          $endgroup$
          – David Z
          Feb 22 at 23:35




















        • $begingroup$
          There were some comments that were not terribly relevant to the post and looked like they might be spawning a discussion; I've moved them to chat in case people would like to continue there.
          $endgroup$
          – David Z
          Feb 22 at 23:35


















        $begingroup$
        There were some comments that were not terribly relevant to the post and looked like they might be spawning a discussion; I've moved them to chat in case people would like to continue there.
        $endgroup$
        – David Z
        Feb 22 at 23:35






        $begingroup$
        There were some comments that were not terribly relevant to the post and looked like they might be spawning a discussion; I've moved them to chat in case people would like to continue there.
        $endgroup$
        – David Z
        Feb 22 at 23:35













        8












        $begingroup$


        How can we assume so plainly that it should be sin or cosine only




        It's literally just a guess. Those're obvious solutions which can be verified easily, and when they're such straightforward functions, you'll soon just be able to notice them. It's the like when you have an equation like $f'(x)=Ktimes f(x)$, you just see that the solutions are exponentials. After that, you know that for a differential equation like $f^{(n)}(x)=Kf(x)$ you can have upto $n$ solutions, so you aren't missing anything when you consider the sine and cosine.



        It's a nice idea to not waste time/effort/space formally solving such equations when the solutions are canonical.






        share|cite|improve this answer











        $endgroup$


















          8












          $begingroup$


          How can we assume so plainly that it should be sin or cosine only




          It's literally just a guess. Those're obvious solutions which can be verified easily, and when they're such straightforward functions, you'll soon just be able to notice them. It's the like when you have an equation like $f'(x)=Ktimes f(x)$, you just see that the solutions are exponentials. After that, you know that for a differential equation like $f^{(n)}(x)=Kf(x)$ you can have upto $n$ solutions, so you aren't missing anything when you consider the sine and cosine.



          It's a nice idea to not waste time/effort/space formally solving such equations when the solutions are canonical.






          share|cite|improve this answer











          $endgroup$
















            8












            8








            8





            $begingroup$


            How can we assume so plainly that it should be sin or cosine only




            It's literally just a guess. Those're obvious solutions which can be verified easily, and when they're such straightforward functions, you'll soon just be able to notice them. It's the like when you have an equation like $f'(x)=Ktimes f(x)$, you just see that the solutions are exponentials. After that, you know that for a differential equation like $f^{(n)}(x)=Kf(x)$ you can have upto $n$ solutions, so you aren't missing anything when you consider the sine and cosine.



            It's a nice idea to not waste time/effort/space formally solving such equations when the solutions are canonical.






            share|cite|improve this answer











            $endgroup$




            How can we assume so plainly that it should be sin or cosine only




            It's literally just a guess. Those're obvious solutions which can be verified easily, and when they're such straightforward functions, you'll soon just be able to notice them. It's the like when you have an equation like $f'(x)=Ktimes f(x)$, you just see that the solutions are exponentials. After that, you know that for a differential equation like $f^{(n)}(x)=Kf(x)$ you can have upto $n$ solutions, so you aren't missing anything when you consider the sine and cosine.



            It's a nice idea to not waste time/effort/space formally solving such equations when the solutions are canonical.







            share|cite|improve this answer














            share|cite|improve this answer



            share|cite|improve this answer








            edited Feb 22 at 11:31

























            answered Feb 22 at 11:13









            ChairChair

            4,25472139




            4,25472139























                6












                $begingroup$

                These are all good and correct answers, but I will answer from a different perspective.



                Any linear-differential equation of degree $n$ has $n$ linearly independent solutions, ie. these $n$ solutions span a vector space, with sets of solutions forming a basis.



                For simple harmonic motion, the differential equation is:



                $$m(dfrac{d^2x}{dt^2})+kx = 0$$



                As stated in other answers, one can take the solutions to be linear combinations of $sin(omega t)$ and $cos(omega t)$, or one could take $exp(iomega t)$ and $exp(-iomega t)$. These are both sets of linearly independent functions, and both pairs solve the equation, yet they are not the same functions - they are two different sets of basis functions.



                To get from one set of solution to another, one needs to change the basis.






                share|cite|improve this answer











                $endgroup$


















                  6












                  $begingroup$

                  These are all good and correct answers, but I will answer from a different perspective.



                  Any linear-differential equation of degree $n$ has $n$ linearly independent solutions, ie. these $n$ solutions span a vector space, with sets of solutions forming a basis.



                  For simple harmonic motion, the differential equation is:



                  $$m(dfrac{d^2x}{dt^2})+kx = 0$$



                  As stated in other answers, one can take the solutions to be linear combinations of $sin(omega t)$ and $cos(omega t)$, or one could take $exp(iomega t)$ and $exp(-iomega t)$. These are both sets of linearly independent functions, and both pairs solve the equation, yet they are not the same functions - they are two different sets of basis functions.



                  To get from one set of solution to another, one needs to change the basis.






                  share|cite|improve this answer











                  $endgroup$
















                    6












                    6








                    6





                    $begingroup$

                    These are all good and correct answers, but I will answer from a different perspective.



                    Any linear-differential equation of degree $n$ has $n$ linearly independent solutions, ie. these $n$ solutions span a vector space, with sets of solutions forming a basis.



                    For simple harmonic motion, the differential equation is:



                    $$m(dfrac{d^2x}{dt^2})+kx = 0$$



                    As stated in other answers, one can take the solutions to be linear combinations of $sin(omega t)$ and $cos(omega t)$, or one could take $exp(iomega t)$ and $exp(-iomega t)$. These are both sets of linearly independent functions, and both pairs solve the equation, yet they are not the same functions - they are two different sets of basis functions.



                    To get from one set of solution to another, one needs to change the basis.






                    share|cite|improve this answer











                    $endgroup$



                    These are all good and correct answers, but I will answer from a different perspective.



                    Any linear-differential equation of degree $n$ has $n$ linearly independent solutions, ie. these $n$ solutions span a vector space, with sets of solutions forming a basis.



                    For simple harmonic motion, the differential equation is:



                    $$m(dfrac{d^2x}{dt^2})+kx = 0$$



                    As stated in other answers, one can take the solutions to be linear combinations of $sin(omega t)$ and $cos(omega t)$, or one could take $exp(iomega t)$ and $exp(-iomega t)$. These are both sets of linearly independent functions, and both pairs solve the equation, yet they are not the same functions - they are two different sets of basis functions.



                    To get from one set of solution to another, one needs to change the basis.







                    share|cite|improve this answer














                    share|cite|improve this answer



                    share|cite|improve this answer








                    edited Feb 22 at 21:27









                    flaudemus

                    1,26312




                    1,26312










                    answered Feb 22 at 18:31









                    user458276user458276

                    1614




                    1614























                        3












                        $begingroup$

                        One way of deriving it is using Taylor series (although to be fully rigorous, this requires further justification for restricting to analytic functions). We have that $f(x) = sum a_n x^t$, so $f''(t)=sum (n+1)(n+2)a_{n+2}t^n$. If $f''(t)=-frac k m f(t)$, then $(n+1)(n+2)a_{n+2} = -frac k m a_n$, so $a_{n+2} = frac {-k a_n}{(n+1)(n+2)m}$. So $a_0$ determines $a_2$, which determines $a_4$, etc., and $a_1$ determines $a_3$ which determines $a_5$, and so on. Since all of the even terms vary linearly based on the 0th term, and don't depend on the odd terms, and vice versa for the odd terms, we can find a solution $f_0$ by taking $a_0=1, a_1=0$ and $f_1$ from $a_0=0, a_1=1$, and all solutions will be a linear combination of $f_0$ and $f_1$. And if you work out what those solutions are, they correspond to cosine and sine, respectively.



                        You can also get to sine and cosine by taking $f(t)=e^{at}$. Then $f''(t)=a^2e^{at}$, so if $f'' = -frac km f$, then $a^2= -frac km$. This leads to the two solutions $a = pm isqrt{frac km}$. Neither root gives a real solution, but $f(x) = frac 12 (e^{ct} + e^{-ct})$ and $f(x) = frac 1{2i} (e^{ct} - e^{-ct})$, where $c = isqrt{frac km}$, do. Those correspond to cosine and sine.






                        share|cite|improve this answer









                        $endgroup$


















                          3












                          $begingroup$

                          One way of deriving it is using Taylor series (although to be fully rigorous, this requires further justification for restricting to analytic functions). We have that $f(x) = sum a_n x^t$, so $f''(t)=sum (n+1)(n+2)a_{n+2}t^n$. If $f''(t)=-frac k m f(t)$, then $(n+1)(n+2)a_{n+2} = -frac k m a_n$, so $a_{n+2} = frac {-k a_n}{(n+1)(n+2)m}$. So $a_0$ determines $a_2$, which determines $a_4$, etc., and $a_1$ determines $a_3$ which determines $a_5$, and so on. Since all of the even terms vary linearly based on the 0th term, and don't depend on the odd terms, and vice versa for the odd terms, we can find a solution $f_0$ by taking $a_0=1, a_1=0$ and $f_1$ from $a_0=0, a_1=1$, and all solutions will be a linear combination of $f_0$ and $f_1$. And if you work out what those solutions are, they correspond to cosine and sine, respectively.



                          You can also get to sine and cosine by taking $f(t)=e^{at}$. Then $f''(t)=a^2e^{at}$, so if $f'' = -frac km f$, then $a^2= -frac km$. This leads to the two solutions $a = pm isqrt{frac km}$. Neither root gives a real solution, but $f(x) = frac 12 (e^{ct} + e^{-ct})$ and $f(x) = frac 1{2i} (e^{ct} - e^{-ct})$, where $c = isqrt{frac km}$, do. Those correspond to cosine and sine.






                          share|cite|improve this answer









                          $endgroup$
















                            3












                            3








                            3





                            $begingroup$

                            One way of deriving it is using Taylor series (although to be fully rigorous, this requires further justification for restricting to analytic functions). We have that $f(x) = sum a_n x^t$, so $f''(t)=sum (n+1)(n+2)a_{n+2}t^n$. If $f''(t)=-frac k m f(t)$, then $(n+1)(n+2)a_{n+2} = -frac k m a_n$, so $a_{n+2} = frac {-k a_n}{(n+1)(n+2)m}$. So $a_0$ determines $a_2$, which determines $a_4$, etc., and $a_1$ determines $a_3$ which determines $a_5$, and so on. Since all of the even terms vary linearly based on the 0th term, and don't depend on the odd terms, and vice versa for the odd terms, we can find a solution $f_0$ by taking $a_0=1, a_1=0$ and $f_1$ from $a_0=0, a_1=1$, and all solutions will be a linear combination of $f_0$ and $f_1$. And if you work out what those solutions are, they correspond to cosine and sine, respectively.



                            You can also get to sine and cosine by taking $f(t)=e^{at}$. Then $f''(t)=a^2e^{at}$, so if $f'' = -frac km f$, then $a^2= -frac km$. This leads to the two solutions $a = pm isqrt{frac km}$. Neither root gives a real solution, but $f(x) = frac 12 (e^{ct} + e^{-ct})$ and $f(x) = frac 1{2i} (e^{ct} - e^{-ct})$, where $c = isqrt{frac km}$, do. Those correspond to cosine and sine.






                            share|cite|improve this answer









                            $endgroup$



                            One way of deriving it is using Taylor series (although to be fully rigorous, this requires further justification for restricting to analytic functions). We have that $f(x) = sum a_n x^t$, so $f''(t)=sum (n+1)(n+2)a_{n+2}t^n$. If $f''(t)=-frac k m f(t)$, then $(n+1)(n+2)a_{n+2} = -frac k m a_n$, so $a_{n+2} = frac {-k a_n}{(n+1)(n+2)m}$. So $a_0$ determines $a_2$, which determines $a_4$, etc., and $a_1$ determines $a_3$ which determines $a_5$, and so on. Since all of the even terms vary linearly based on the 0th term, and don't depend on the odd terms, and vice versa for the odd terms, we can find a solution $f_0$ by taking $a_0=1, a_1=0$ and $f_1$ from $a_0=0, a_1=1$, and all solutions will be a linear combination of $f_0$ and $f_1$. And if you work out what those solutions are, they correspond to cosine and sine, respectively.



                            You can also get to sine and cosine by taking $f(t)=e^{at}$. Then $f''(t)=a^2e^{at}$, so if $f'' = -frac km f$, then $a^2= -frac km$. This leads to the two solutions $a = pm isqrt{frac km}$. Neither root gives a real solution, but $f(x) = frac 12 (e^{ct} + e^{-ct})$ and $f(x) = frac 1{2i} (e^{ct} - e^{-ct})$, where $c = isqrt{frac km}$, do. Those correspond to cosine and sine.







                            share|cite|improve this answer












                            share|cite|improve this answer



                            share|cite|improve this answer










                            answered Feb 22 at 18:13









                            AcccumulationAcccumulation

                            2,566312




                            2,566312






























                                draft saved

                                draft discarded




















































                                Thanks for contributing an answer to Physics Stack Exchange!


                                • Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!

                                But avoid



                                • Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.

                                • Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.


                                Use MathJax to format equations. MathJax reference.


                                To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.




                                draft saved


                                draft discarded














                                StackExchange.ready(
                                function () {
                                StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fphysics.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f462245%2fwhy-can-all-solutions-to-the-simple-harmonic-motion-equation-be-written-in-terms%23new-answer', 'question_page');
                                }
                                );

                                Post as a guest















                                Required, but never shown





















































                                Required, but never shown














                                Required, but never shown












                                Required, but never shown







                                Required, but never shown

































                                Required, but never shown














                                Required, but never shown












                                Required, but never shown







                                Required, but never shown







                                Popular posts from this blog

                                mysqli_query(): Empty query in /home/lucindabrummitt/public_html/blog/wp-includes/wp-db.php on line 1924

                                How to change which sound is reproduced for terminal bell?

                                Can I use Tabulator js library in my java Spring + Thymeleaf project?