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I have the question: "Translate the following argument into the language of predicate
logic. Determine if it is valid or invalid. Justify your answer by providing
either an interpretation or a proof.
All babies are illogical and nothing that is despised can manage
a crocodile. Not all illogical things are despised, therefore some
baby can manage some crocodile."



I have it translated in a way that I think is correct with
$$(∀x~(Bx → Ix) ∧ ∀y~(Mc → ¬Dy)) , \(∃x~(Ix → Dx))\
therefore~(∃x~(Bx → Mc))$$



I am trying to go through with a proof and I have not solved it, I keep on getting stuck while attempting it. Any help with forming a proof or an interpretation that proves it's validity would be greatly appreciated.










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    Your "translation" would be easier to follow if you explained what the predicate symbols stand for.
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I have the question: "Translate the following argument into the language of predicate
logic. Determine if it is valid or invalid. Justify your answer by providing
either an interpretation or a proof.
All babies are illogical and nothing that is despised can manage
a crocodile. Not all illogical things are despised, therefore some
baby can manage some crocodile."



I have it translated in a way that I think is correct with
$$(∀x~(Bx → Ix) ∧ ∀y~(Mc → ¬Dy)) , \(∃x~(Ix → Dx))\
therefore~(∃x~(Bx → Mc))$$



I am trying to go through with a proof and I have not solved it, I keep on getting stuck while attempting it. Any help with forming a proof or an interpretation that proves it's validity would be greatly appreciated.










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    Your "translation" would be easier to follow if you explained what the predicate symbols stand for.
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    – hardmath
    Dec 5 '18 at 4:39














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I have the question: "Translate the following argument into the language of predicate
logic. Determine if it is valid or invalid. Justify your answer by providing
either an interpretation or a proof.
All babies are illogical and nothing that is despised can manage
a crocodile. Not all illogical things are despised, therefore some
baby can manage some crocodile."



I have it translated in a way that I think is correct with
$$(∀x~(Bx → Ix) ∧ ∀y~(Mc → ¬Dy)) , \(∃x~(Ix → Dx))\
therefore~(∃x~(Bx → Mc))$$



I am trying to go through with a proof and I have not solved it, I keep on getting stuck while attempting it. Any help with forming a proof or an interpretation that proves it's validity would be greatly appreciated.










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I have the question: "Translate the following argument into the language of predicate
logic. Determine if it is valid or invalid. Justify your answer by providing
either an interpretation or a proof.
All babies are illogical and nothing that is despised can manage
a crocodile. Not all illogical things are despised, therefore some
baby can manage some crocodile."



I have it translated in a way that I think is correct with
$$(∀x~(Bx → Ix) ∧ ∀y~(Mc → ¬Dy)) , \(∃x~(Ix → Dx))\
therefore~(∃x~(Bx → Mc))$$



I am trying to go through with a proof and I have not solved it, I keep on getting stuck while attempting it. Any help with forming a proof or an interpretation that proves it's validity would be greatly appreciated.







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    $begingroup$
    Your "translation" would be easier to follow if you explained what the predicate symbols stand for.
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    – hardmath
    Dec 5 '18 at 4:39














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    $begingroup$
    Your "translation" would be easier to follow if you explained what the predicate symbols stand for.
    $endgroup$
    – hardmath
    Dec 5 '18 at 4:39








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Your "translation" would be easier to follow if you explained what the predicate symbols stand for.
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– hardmath
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Your "translation" would be easier to follow if you explained what the predicate symbols stand for.
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You want the second to say "There is an illogical thing and it is not despised."



Also the third should likewise say "There is a baby and it can manage crocodiles."



Remember, existential are restricted by a conjunction. Universals are restricted by a conditional.






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    You want the second to say "There is an illogical thing and it is not despised."



    Also the third should likewise say "There is a baby and it can manage crocodiles."



    Remember, existential are restricted by a conjunction. Universals are restricted by a conditional.






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      You want the second to say "There is an illogical thing and it is not despised."



      Also the third should likewise say "There is a baby and it can manage crocodiles."



      Remember, existential are restricted by a conjunction. Universals are restricted by a conditional.






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        You want the second to say "There is an illogical thing and it is not despised."



        Also the third should likewise say "There is a baby and it can manage crocodiles."



        Remember, existential are restricted by a conjunction. Universals are restricted by a conditional.






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        You want the second to say "There is an illogical thing and it is not despised."



        Also the third should likewise say "There is a baby and it can manage crocodiles."



        Remember, existential are restricted by a conjunction. Universals are restricted by a conditional.







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