How to tweak volcite in biblatex-chicago to cite volume and page using Arabic numerals separated by a colon












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Is there a simple way to change biblatex-chicago's treatment of volcite commands such that when citing a volume and page of a multi-volume book, it outputs "[vol]:[page(s)]" instead of "vol. [vol], p./pp. [page(s)]"? (But when citing only the volume or volumes, but no page, I don't want it to change the output.)



Here is my MWE:



documentclass{article}

usepackage[notes]{biblatex-chicago}
addbibresource{biblatex-examples.bib}

begin{document}
volcite{1}[50]{knuth:ct}. mancite

volcite{1--2}{knuth:ct}.
end{document}


I would like the output to be




Donald E. Knuth, Computers & Typesetting, 5 vols. (Reading, Mass.: Addison- Wesley, 1984–1986), 1:50.



Knuth, Computers & Typesetting, vols. 1–2.











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    Is there a simple way to change biblatex-chicago's treatment of volcite commands such that when citing a volume and page of a multi-volume book, it outputs "[vol]:[page(s)]" instead of "vol. [vol], p./pp. [page(s)]"? (But when citing only the volume or volumes, but no page, I don't want it to change the output.)



    Here is my MWE:



    documentclass{article}

    usepackage[notes]{biblatex-chicago}
    addbibresource{biblatex-examples.bib}

    begin{document}
    volcite{1}[50]{knuth:ct}. mancite

    volcite{1--2}{knuth:ct}.
    end{document}


    I would like the output to be




    Donald E. Knuth, Computers & Typesetting, 5 vols. (Reading, Mass.: Addison- Wesley, 1984–1986), 1:50.



    Knuth, Computers & Typesetting, vols. 1–2.











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      Is there a simple way to change biblatex-chicago's treatment of volcite commands such that when citing a volume and page of a multi-volume book, it outputs "[vol]:[page(s)]" instead of "vol. [vol], p./pp. [page(s)]"? (But when citing only the volume or volumes, but no page, I don't want it to change the output.)



      Here is my MWE:



      documentclass{article}

      usepackage[notes]{biblatex-chicago}
      addbibresource{biblatex-examples.bib}

      begin{document}
      volcite{1}[50]{knuth:ct}. mancite

      volcite{1--2}{knuth:ct}.
      end{document}


      I would like the output to be




      Donald E. Knuth, Computers & Typesetting, 5 vols. (Reading, Mass.: Addison- Wesley, 1984–1986), 1:50.



      Knuth, Computers & Typesetting, vols. 1–2.











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      Is there a simple way to change biblatex-chicago's treatment of volcite commands such that when citing a volume and page of a multi-volume book, it outputs "[vol]:[page(s)]" instead of "vol. [vol], p./pp. [page(s)]"? (But when citing only the volume or volumes, but no page, I don't want it to change the output.)



      Here is my MWE:



      documentclass{article}

      usepackage[notes]{biblatex-chicago}
      addbibresource{biblatex-examples.bib}

      begin{document}
      volcite{1}[50]{knuth:ct}. mancite

      volcite{1--2}{knuth:ct}.
      end{document}


      I would like the output to be




      Donald E. Knuth, Computers & Typesetting, 5 vols. (Reading, Mass.: Addison- Wesley, 1984–1986), 1:50.



      Knuth, Computers & Typesetting, vols. 1–2.








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          You can do this by redefining volcitedelim and mkvolcitenote.



          The one caveat is that something like volcite{1}[a note]{knuth:ct} will give slightly unexpected results. But is is easy enough to work around by putting non-page number postnotes outside the citation command.



          documentclass{article}

          usepackage[notes]{biblatex-chicago}
          addbibresource{biblatex-examples.bib}

          renewcommand*{volcitedelim}{addcolon}

          renewrobustcmd*{mkvolcitenote}[2]{%
          ifblank{#2}
          {printtext[volcitevolume]{#1}}
          {printtext{#1}volcitedelimprinttext{#2}}}

          begin{document}
          volcite{1}[50]{knuth:ct}. mancite

          volcite{1--2}{knuth:ct}.
          end{document}


          output






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          • Thank you! This is perfect. I noticed that the style guidelines I am looking at eliminate the comma after shorthands in the case of a multivolume work, e.g., "CCAG 5:102" instead of "CCAG, 5:102". (But still keeping the comma in the case of a shorthand followed by just a page number.) Is there an extra line one could add for that functionality?

            – Alex Roberts
            Jan 27 at 16:36








          • 2





            @AlexRoberts, this is probably worth a separate question. biblatex-chicago is not always easy to modify and you will get a better quality of answer if others see it too.

            – David Purton
            Jan 28 at 10:19











          • you're right, I should make it a separate question. I'll do that now.

            – Alex Roberts
            Jan 28 at 15:42











          • The separate question about the comma is here.

            – Alex Roberts
            Jan 28 at 16:02











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          You can do this by redefining volcitedelim and mkvolcitenote.



          The one caveat is that something like volcite{1}[a note]{knuth:ct} will give slightly unexpected results. But is is easy enough to work around by putting non-page number postnotes outside the citation command.



          documentclass{article}

          usepackage[notes]{biblatex-chicago}
          addbibresource{biblatex-examples.bib}

          renewcommand*{volcitedelim}{addcolon}

          renewrobustcmd*{mkvolcitenote}[2]{%
          ifblank{#2}
          {printtext[volcitevolume]{#1}}
          {printtext{#1}volcitedelimprinttext{#2}}}

          begin{document}
          volcite{1}[50]{knuth:ct}. mancite

          volcite{1--2}{knuth:ct}.
          end{document}


          output






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          • Thank you! This is perfect. I noticed that the style guidelines I am looking at eliminate the comma after shorthands in the case of a multivolume work, e.g., "CCAG 5:102" instead of "CCAG, 5:102". (But still keeping the comma in the case of a shorthand followed by just a page number.) Is there an extra line one could add for that functionality?

            – Alex Roberts
            Jan 27 at 16:36








          • 2





            @AlexRoberts, this is probably worth a separate question. biblatex-chicago is not always easy to modify and you will get a better quality of answer if others see it too.

            – David Purton
            Jan 28 at 10:19











          • you're right, I should make it a separate question. I'll do that now.

            – Alex Roberts
            Jan 28 at 15:42











          • The separate question about the comma is here.

            – Alex Roberts
            Jan 28 at 16:02
















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          You can do this by redefining volcitedelim and mkvolcitenote.



          The one caveat is that something like volcite{1}[a note]{knuth:ct} will give slightly unexpected results. But is is easy enough to work around by putting non-page number postnotes outside the citation command.



          documentclass{article}

          usepackage[notes]{biblatex-chicago}
          addbibresource{biblatex-examples.bib}

          renewcommand*{volcitedelim}{addcolon}

          renewrobustcmd*{mkvolcitenote}[2]{%
          ifblank{#2}
          {printtext[volcitevolume]{#1}}
          {printtext{#1}volcitedelimprinttext{#2}}}

          begin{document}
          volcite{1}[50]{knuth:ct}. mancite

          volcite{1--2}{knuth:ct}.
          end{document}


          output






          share|improve this answer
























          • Thank you! This is perfect. I noticed that the style guidelines I am looking at eliminate the comma after shorthands in the case of a multivolume work, e.g., "CCAG 5:102" instead of "CCAG, 5:102". (But still keeping the comma in the case of a shorthand followed by just a page number.) Is there an extra line one could add for that functionality?

            – Alex Roberts
            Jan 27 at 16:36








          • 2





            @AlexRoberts, this is probably worth a separate question. biblatex-chicago is not always easy to modify and you will get a better quality of answer if others see it too.

            – David Purton
            Jan 28 at 10:19











          • you're right, I should make it a separate question. I'll do that now.

            – Alex Roberts
            Jan 28 at 15:42











          • The separate question about the comma is here.

            – Alex Roberts
            Jan 28 at 16:02














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          You can do this by redefining volcitedelim and mkvolcitenote.



          The one caveat is that something like volcite{1}[a note]{knuth:ct} will give slightly unexpected results. But is is easy enough to work around by putting non-page number postnotes outside the citation command.



          documentclass{article}

          usepackage[notes]{biblatex-chicago}
          addbibresource{biblatex-examples.bib}

          renewcommand*{volcitedelim}{addcolon}

          renewrobustcmd*{mkvolcitenote}[2]{%
          ifblank{#2}
          {printtext[volcitevolume]{#1}}
          {printtext{#1}volcitedelimprinttext{#2}}}

          begin{document}
          volcite{1}[50]{knuth:ct}. mancite

          volcite{1--2}{knuth:ct}.
          end{document}


          output






          share|improve this answer













          You can do this by redefining volcitedelim and mkvolcitenote.



          The one caveat is that something like volcite{1}[a note]{knuth:ct} will give slightly unexpected results. But is is easy enough to work around by putting non-page number postnotes outside the citation command.



          documentclass{article}

          usepackage[notes]{biblatex-chicago}
          addbibresource{biblatex-examples.bib}

          renewcommand*{volcitedelim}{addcolon}

          renewrobustcmd*{mkvolcitenote}[2]{%
          ifblank{#2}
          {printtext[volcitevolume]{#1}}
          {printtext{#1}volcitedelimprinttext{#2}}}

          begin{document}
          volcite{1}[50]{knuth:ct}. mancite

          volcite{1--2}{knuth:ct}.
          end{document}


          output







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          answered Jan 27 at 7:03









          David PurtonDavid Purton

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          • Thank you! This is perfect. I noticed that the style guidelines I am looking at eliminate the comma after shorthands in the case of a multivolume work, e.g., "CCAG 5:102" instead of "CCAG, 5:102". (But still keeping the comma in the case of a shorthand followed by just a page number.) Is there an extra line one could add for that functionality?

            – Alex Roberts
            Jan 27 at 16:36








          • 2





            @AlexRoberts, this is probably worth a separate question. biblatex-chicago is not always easy to modify and you will get a better quality of answer if others see it too.

            – David Purton
            Jan 28 at 10:19











          • you're right, I should make it a separate question. I'll do that now.

            – Alex Roberts
            Jan 28 at 15:42











          • The separate question about the comma is here.

            – Alex Roberts
            Jan 28 at 16:02



















          • Thank you! This is perfect. I noticed that the style guidelines I am looking at eliminate the comma after shorthands in the case of a multivolume work, e.g., "CCAG 5:102" instead of "CCAG, 5:102". (But still keeping the comma in the case of a shorthand followed by just a page number.) Is there an extra line one could add for that functionality?

            – Alex Roberts
            Jan 27 at 16:36








          • 2





            @AlexRoberts, this is probably worth a separate question. biblatex-chicago is not always easy to modify and you will get a better quality of answer if others see it too.

            – David Purton
            Jan 28 at 10:19











          • you're right, I should make it a separate question. I'll do that now.

            – Alex Roberts
            Jan 28 at 15:42











          • The separate question about the comma is here.

            – Alex Roberts
            Jan 28 at 16:02

















          Thank you! This is perfect. I noticed that the style guidelines I am looking at eliminate the comma after shorthands in the case of a multivolume work, e.g., "CCAG 5:102" instead of "CCAG, 5:102". (But still keeping the comma in the case of a shorthand followed by just a page number.) Is there an extra line one could add for that functionality?

          – Alex Roberts
          Jan 27 at 16:36







          Thank you! This is perfect. I noticed that the style guidelines I am looking at eliminate the comma after shorthands in the case of a multivolume work, e.g., "CCAG 5:102" instead of "CCAG, 5:102". (But still keeping the comma in the case of a shorthand followed by just a page number.) Is there an extra line one could add for that functionality?

          – Alex Roberts
          Jan 27 at 16:36






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          2





          @AlexRoberts, this is probably worth a separate question. biblatex-chicago is not always easy to modify and you will get a better quality of answer if others see it too.

          – David Purton
          Jan 28 at 10:19





          @AlexRoberts, this is probably worth a separate question. biblatex-chicago is not always easy to modify and you will get a better quality of answer if others see it too.

          – David Purton
          Jan 28 at 10:19













          you're right, I should make it a separate question. I'll do that now.

          – Alex Roberts
          Jan 28 at 15:42





          you're right, I should make it a separate question. I'll do that now.

          – Alex Roberts
          Jan 28 at 15:42













          The separate question about the comma is here.

          – Alex Roberts
          Jan 28 at 16:02





          The separate question about the comma is here.

          – Alex Roberts
          Jan 28 at 16:02


















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