Construct a sequence of continuous functions $f_n$ on $[0,infty)$ such that $f_n leq f_{n+1}$ and $f_n to 1$.
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I need to construct a sequence of continuous functions $f_n$ on $[0,infty)$ such that $f_n leq f_{n+1}$ for each $n$ and $f_n to 1$ pointwisely not uniformly.
I have been trying for 2 hours, the condition that $f_n to 1$ is easy and being continuous is also easy, but the condition that $f_n leq f_{n+1}$ is rather difficult for me. I can only construct decreasing ones.
Can anyone help with this?
calculus real-analysis analysis
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I need to construct a sequence of continuous functions $f_n$ on $[0,infty)$ such that $f_n leq f_{n+1}$ for each $n$ and $f_n to 1$ pointwisely not uniformly.
I have been trying for 2 hours, the condition that $f_n to 1$ is easy and being continuous is also easy, but the condition that $f_n leq f_{n+1}$ is rather difficult for me. I can only construct decreasing ones.
Can anyone help with this?
calculus real-analysis analysis
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I'd recommend a variant of $arctan nx$.
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– Gerry Myerson
Nov 30 '18 at 11:39
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@GerryMyerson well $tanh(nx)$ requires even less effort :D
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– მამუკა ჯიბლაძე
Nov 30 '18 at 12:01
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if $f_nto 1$ point wise and not uniformly but $f_n$ are decreasing, you can use $2-f_n$ instead.
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– Calvin Khor
Nov 30 '18 at 12:29
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What about $f_n=1$ for all $n$?
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– dan_fulea
Nov 30 '18 at 20:04
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@dan_fulea, your example converges uniformly
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I need to construct a sequence of continuous functions $f_n$ on $[0,infty)$ such that $f_n leq f_{n+1}$ for each $n$ and $f_n to 1$ pointwisely not uniformly.
I have been trying for 2 hours, the condition that $f_n to 1$ is easy and being continuous is also easy, but the condition that $f_n leq f_{n+1}$ is rather difficult for me. I can only construct decreasing ones.
Can anyone help with this?
calculus real-analysis analysis
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I need to construct a sequence of continuous functions $f_n$ on $[0,infty)$ such that $f_n leq f_{n+1}$ for each $n$ and $f_n to 1$ pointwisely not uniformly.
I have been trying for 2 hours, the condition that $f_n to 1$ is easy and being continuous is also easy, but the condition that $f_n leq f_{n+1}$ is rather difficult for me. I can only construct decreasing ones.
Can anyone help with this?
calculus real-analysis analysis
calculus real-analysis analysis
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I'd recommend a variant of $arctan nx$.
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– Gerry Myerson
Nov 30 '18 at 11:39
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@GerryMyerson well $tanh(nx)$ requires even less effort :D
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– მამუკა ჯიბლაძე
Nov 30 '18 at 12:01
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if $f_nto 1$ point wise and not uniformly but $f_n$ are decreasing, you can use $2-f_n$ instead.
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– Calvin Khor
Nov 30 '18 at 12:29
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What about $f_n=1$ for all $n$?
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– dan_fulea
Nov 30 '18 at 20:04
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@dan_fulea, your example converges uniformly
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– bbw
Nov 30 '18 at 21:18
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I'd recommend a variant of $arctan nx$.
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– Gerry Myerson
Nov 30 '18 at 11:39
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@GerryMyerson well $tanh(nx)$ requires even less effort :D
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– მამუკა ჯიბლაძე
Nov 30 '18 at 12:01
2
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if $f_nto 1$ point wise and not uniformly but $f_n$ are decreasing, you can use $2-f_n$ instead.
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– Calvin Khor
Nov 30 '18 at 12:29
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What about $f_n=1$ for all $n$?
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– dan_fulea
Nov 30 '18 at 20:04
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@dan_fulea, your example converges uniformly
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– bbw
Nov 30 '18 at 21:18
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I'd recommend a variant of $arctan nx$.
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– Gerry Myerson
Nov 30 '18 at 11:39
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I'd recommend a variant of $arctan nx$.
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– Gerry Myerson
Nov 30 '18 at 11:39
2
2
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@GerryMyerson well $tanh(nx)$ requires even less effort :D
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– მამუკა ჯიბლაძე
Nov 30 '18 at 12:01
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@GerryMyerson well $tanh(nx)$ requires even less effort :D
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– მამუკა ჯიბლაძე
Nov 30 '18 at 12:01
2
2
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if $f_nto 1$ point wise and not uniformly but $f_n$ are decreasing, you can use $2-f_n$ instead.
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– Calvin Khor
Nov 30 '18 at 12:29
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if $f_nto 1$ point wise and not uniformly but $f_n$ are decreasing, you can use $2-f_n$ instead.
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– Calvin Khor
Nov 30 '18 at 12:29
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What about $f_n=1$ for all $n$?
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– dan_fulea
Nov 30 '18 at 20:04
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What about $f_n=1$ for all $n$?
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– dan_fulea
Nov 30 '18 at 20:04
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@dan_fulea, your example converges uniformly
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– bbw
Nov 30 '18 at 21:18
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@dan_fulea, your example converges uniformly
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You may take $f_n$ to be $1$ on $[0,n]$, decrease linearly from $1$ to $0$ on $[n,n-1]$, and be $0$ on $[n+1, +infty[$. The formula is
$$f_n(x) = begin{cases}
1 & text{if } x le n\
1 - (x-n) & text{if } n < x le n+1 \
0 & text{if } n+1 < x\
end{cases}$$
The sequence $(f_n)_{n ge 0}$ is increasing, and converges point wise $f_n to 1$, but not uniformly (what is $|f_{n}-1|_{infty}$ ?).
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Oh right ! Thanks for spotting my mistake !
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Nov 30 '18 at 12:10
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Let $$f_n(x)=begin{cases}cos {pi xover 2n}&,quad 0le xle n\0& ,quad x>nend{cases}$$and you're done.
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Nice idea ! I think it would also work by replacing $x mapsto cos(pi x /2)$ with any continuous function $f : [0,1] to [0,1]$ that decreases from $1$ do $0$ (you may for example take $1-frac{x}{n}$ on $[0,n]$)
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You may take $f_n$ to be $1$ on $[0,n]$, decrease linearly from $1$ to $0$ on $[n,n-1]$, and be $0$ on $[n+1, +infty[$. The formula is
$$f_n(x) = begin{cases}
1 & text{if } x le n\
1 - (x-n) & text{if } n < x le n+1 \
0 & text{if } n+1 < x\
end{cases}$$
The sequence $(f_n)_{n ge 0}$ is increasing, and converges point wise $f_n to 1$, but not uniformly (what is $|f_{n}-1|_{infty}$ ?).
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Oh right ! Thanks for spotting my mistake !
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– Joel Cohen
Nov 30 '18 at 12:10
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You may take $f_n$ to be $1$ on $[0,n]$, decrease linearly from $1$ to $0$ on $[n,n-1]$, and be $0$ on $[n+1, +infty[$. The formula is
$$f_n(x) = begin{cases}
1 & text{if } x le n\
1 - (x-n) & text{if } n < x le n+1 \
0 & text{if } n+1 < x\
end{cases}$$
The sequence $(f_n)_{n ge 0}$ is increasing, and converges point wise $f_n to 1$, but not uniformly (what is $|f_{n}-1|_{infty}$ ?).
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Oh right ! Thanks for spotting my mistake !
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– Joel Cohen
Nov 30 '18 at 12:10
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$begingroup$
You may take $f_n$ to be $1$ on $[0,n]$, decrease linearly from $1$ to $0$ on $[n,n-1]$, and be $0$ on $[n+1, +infty[$. The formula is
$$f_n(x) = begin{cases}
1 & text{if } x le n\
1 - (x-n) & text{if } n < x le n+1 \
0 & text{if } n+1 < x\
end{cases}$$
The sequence $(f_n)_{n ge 0}$ is increasing, and converges point wise $f_n to 1$, but not uniformly (what is $|f_{n}-1|_{infty}$ ?).
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You may take $f_n$ to be $1$ on $[0,n]$, decrease linearly from $1$ to $0$ on $[n,n-1]$, and be $0$ on $[n+1, +infty[$. The formula is
$$f_n(x) = begin{cases}
1 & text{if } x le n\
1 - (x-n) & text{if } n < x le n+1 \
0 & text{if } n+1 < x\
end{cases}$$
The sequence $(f_n)_{n ge 0}$ is increasing, and converges point wise $f_n to 1$, but not uniformly (what is $|f_{n}-1|_{infty}$ ?).
edited Nov 30 '18 at 12:19
answered Nov 30 '18 at 12:02
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Oh right ! Thanks for spotting my mistake !
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Oh right ! Thanks for spotting my mistake !
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Oh right ! Thanks for spotting my mistake !
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Let $$f_n(x)=begin{cases}cos {pi xover 2n}&,quad 0le xle n\0& ,quad x>nend{cases}$$and you're done.
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Nice idea ! I think it would also work by replacing $x mapsto cos(pi x /2)$ with any continuous function $f : [0,1] to [0,1]$ that decreases from $1$ do $0$ (you may for example take $1-frac{x}{n}$ on $[0,n]$)
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Let $$f_n(x)=begin{cases}cos {pi xover 2n}&,quad 0le xle n\0& ,quad x>nend{cases}$$and you're done.
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Nice idea ! I think it would also work by replacing $x mapsto cos(pi x /2)$ with any continuous function $f : [0,1] to [0,1]$ that decreases from $1$ do $0$ (you may for example take $1-frac{x}{n}$ on $[0,n]$)
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Let $$f_n(x)=begin{cases}cos {pi xover 2n}&,quad 0le xle n\0& ,quad x>nend{cases}$$and you're done.
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Let $$f_n(x)=begin{cases}cos {pi xover 2n}&,quad 0le xle n\0& ,quad x>nend{cases}$$and you're done.
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Nice idea ! I think it would also work by replacing $x mapsto cos(pi x /2)$ with any continuous function $f : [0,1] to [0,1]$ that decreases from $1$ do $0$ (you may for example take $1-frac{x}{n}$ on $[0,n]$)
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– Joel Cohen
Nov 30 '18 at 12:19
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Nice idea ! I think it would also work by replacing $x mapsto cos(pi x /2)$ with any continuous function $f : [0,1] to [0,1]$ that decreases from $1$ do $0$ (you may for example take $1-frac{x}{n}$ on $[0,n]$)
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– Joel Cohen
Nov 30 '18 at 12:19
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Nice idea ! I think it would also work by replacing $x mapsto cos(pi x /2)$ with any continuous function $f : [0,1] to [0,1]$ that decreases from $1$ do $0$ (you may for example take $1-frac{x}{n}$ on $[0,n]$)
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– Joel Cohen
Nov 30 '18 at 12:19
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Nice idea ! I think it would also work by replacing $x mapsto cos(pi x /2)$ with any continuous function $f : [0,1] to [0,1]$ that decreases from $1$ do $0$ (you may for example take $1-frac{x}{n}$ on $[0,n]$)
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I'd recommend a variant of $arctan nx$.
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– Gerry Myerson
Nov 30 '18 at 11:39
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@GerryMyerson well $tanh(nx)$ requires even less effort :D
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– მამუკა ჯიბლაძე
Nov 30 '18 at 12:01
2
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if $f_nto 1$ point wise and not uniformly but $f_n$ are decreasing, you can use $2-f_n$ instead.
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– Calvin Khor
Nov 30 '18 at 12:29
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What about $f_n=1$ for all $n$?
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– dan_fulea
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@dan_fulea, your example converges uniformly
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