$sup_K |partial^{alpha}u|le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!^s$ then $u$ is analytic for $sle 1$
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A function $uin C^{infty}$ belongs to the Gevrey Class of order $s$ if for every compact $K$ of $Omega$ there is a constant $C$ such that
$$sup_K |partial^{alpha}u|le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!^s$$
$$alphainmathbb{Z}_+^N$$
I've found this thing $u$ harmonic then $|D^{alpha} u(x_0)|le frac{C_k}{r^{n+k}}||u||$ or $sup_{xin B}|partial^{alpha} f(x)|le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!$ which is close but has no $s$. It's known that for $s=1$ (Evans) such functions are analytic, but I don't know how to prove it for $s <1$.
It looks like that for $s>1$ I can simply insert $C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!^s$ in the end of the inequality like this:
$$sup_{xin B}|partial^{alpha} f(x)|le
C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!^s$$
so for $s>1$ every funtion that satisfies this is analytic?
UPDATE:
I have from $u$ harmonic then $|D^{alpha} u(x_0)|le frac{C_k}{r^{n+k}}||u||$ or $sup_{xin B}|partial^{alpha} f(x)|le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!$ that for any ball that:
Given any closed ball $BsubsetOmega$, there exists $C>0$ such that
$$sup_{xin B}|partial^{alpha} f(x)|le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!$$
and
$f$ is real analytic in $Omega$
are equivalent statements. Therefore, if we pick a function $u$ from the Gevrey class, it is true that
$$sup_{overline{B}} |partial^{alpha}u|le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!^s $$
if we pick ${overline{B}}$ as our compact $K$
therefore
$$sup_{overline{B}} |partial^{alpha}u|le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!^s le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha! $$
for $0<s<1$. Therefore, by our theorem, it is true that $u$ is real analytic in $Omega$
is it true?
real-analysis pde supremum-and-infimum wave-equation
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A function $uin C^{infty}$ belongs to the Gevrey Class of order $s$ if for every compact $K$ of $Omega$ there is a constant $C$ such that
$$sup_K |partial^{alpha}u|le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!^s$$
$$alphainmathbb{Z}_+^N$$
I've found this thing $u$ harmonic then $|D^{alpha} u(x_0)|le frac{C_k}{r^{n+k}}||u||$ or $sup_{xin B}|partial^{alpha} f(x)|le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!$ which is close but has no $s$. It's known that for $s=1$ (Evans) such functions are analytic, but I don't know how to prove it for $s <1$.
It looks like that for $s>1$ I can simply insert $C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!^s$ in the end of the inequality like this:
$$sup_{xin B}|partial^{alpha} f(x)|le
C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!^s$$
so for $s>1$ every funtion that satisfies this is analytic?
UPDATE:
I have from $u$ harmonic then $|D^{alpha} u(x_0)|le frac{C_k}{r^{n+k}}||u||$ or $sup_{xin B}|partial^{alpha} f(x)|le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!$ that for any ball that:
Given any closed ball $BsubsetOmega$, there exists $C>0$ such that
$$sup_{xin B}|partial^{alpha} f(x)|le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!$$
and
$f$ is real analytic in $Omega$
are equivalent statements. Therefore, if we pick a function $u$ from the Gevrey class, it is true that
$$sup_{overline{B}} |partial^{alpha}u|le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!^s $$
if we pick ${overline{B}}$ as our compact $K$
therefore
$$sup_{overline{B}} |partial^{alpha}u|le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!^s le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha! $$
for $0<s<1$. Therefore, by our theorem, it is true that $u$ is real analytic in $Omega$
is it true?
real-analysis pde supremum-and-infimum wave-equation
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May you seek about a compact for which every sequence u(n) converge to 0 by the means of distribution Topology D(R)
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– zeraoulia rafik
Nov 26 '18 at 17:39
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@zeraouliarafik unfortunately I don't think distribution topology is a way here because I have any background on this
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– Lucas Zanella
Nov 26 '18 at 18:25
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Since you have posted PDE in your tag , and all your given data indicate the uses of distribution partically the convergence to the null function in the the Topology of distribution
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– zeraoulia rafik
Nov 26 '18 at 18:30
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Your last argument seems good to me. See the third characterization in en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…
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– Federico
Nov 29 '18 at 18:08
add a comment |
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A function $uin C^{infty}$ belongs to the Gevrey Class of order $s$ if for every compact $K$ of $Omega$ there is a constant $C$ such that
$$sup_K |partial^{alpha}u|le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!^s$$
$$alphainmathbb{Z}_+^N$$
I've found this thing $u$ harmonic then $|D^{alpha} u(x_0)|le frac{C_k}{r^{n+k}}||u||$ or $sup_{xin B}|partial^{alpha} f(x)|le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!$ which is close but has no $s$. It's known that for $s=1$ (Evans) such functions are analytic, but I don't know how to prove it for $s <1$.
It looks like that for $s>1$ I can simply insert $C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!^s$ in the end of the inequality like this:
$$sup_{xin B}|partial^{alpha} f(x)|le
C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!^s$$
so for $s>1$ every funtion that satisfies this is analytic?
UPDATE:
I have from $u$ harmonic then $|D^{alpha} u(x_0)|le frac{C_k}{r^{n+k}}||u||$ or $sup_{xin B}|partial^{alpha} f(x)|le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!$ that for any ball that:
Given any closed ball $BsubsetOmega$, there exists $C>0$ such that
$$sup_{xin B}|partial^{alpha} f(x)|le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!$$
and
$f$ is real analytic in $Omega$
are equivalent statements. Therefore, if we pick a function $u$ from the Gevrey class, it is true that
$$sup_{overline{B}} |partial^{alpha}u|le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!^s $$
if we pick ${overline{B}}$ as our compact $K$
therefore
$$sup_{overline{B}} |partial^{alpha}u|le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!^s le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha! $$
for $0<s<1$. Therefore, by our theorem, it is true that $u$ is real analytic in $Omega$
is it true?
real-analysis pde supremum-and-infimum wave-equation
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A function $uin C^{infty}$ belongs to the Gevrey Class of order $s$ if for every compact $K$ of $Omega$ there is a constant $C$ such that
$$sup_K |partial^{alpha}u|le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!^s$$
$$alphainmathbb{Z}_+^N$$
I've found this thing $u$ harmonic then $|D^{alpha} u(x_0)|le frac{C_k}{r^{n+k}}||u||$ or $sup_{xin B}|partial^{alpha} f(x)|le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!$ which is close but has no $s$. It's known that for $s=1$ (Evans) such functions are analytic, but I don't know how to prove it for $s <1$.
It looks like that for $s>1$ I can simply insert $C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!^s$ in the end of the inequality like this:
$$sup_{xin B}|partial^{alpha} f(x)|le
C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!^s$$
so for $s>1$ every funtion that satisfies this is analytic?
UPDATE:
I have from $u$ harmonic then $|D^{alpha} u(x_0)|le frac{C_k}{r^{n+k}}||u||$ or $sup_{xin B}|partial^{alpha} f(x)|le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!$ that for any ball that:
Given any closed ball $BsubsetOmega$, there exists $C>0$ such that
$$sup_{xin B}|partial^{alpha} f(x)|le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!$$
and
$f$ is real analytic in $Omega$
are equivalent statements. Therefore, if we pick a function $u$ from the Gevrey class, it is true that
$$sup_{overline{B}} |partial^{alpha}u|le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!^s $$
if we pick ${overline{B}}$ as our compact $K$
therefore
$$sup_{overline{B}} |partial^{alpha}u|le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!^s le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha! $$
for $0<s<1$. Therefore, by our theorem, it is true that $u$ is real analytic in $Omega$
is it true?
real-analysis pde supremum-and-infimum wave-equation
real-analysis pde supremum-and-infimum wave-equation
edited Nov 27 '18 at 17:08
Lucas Zanella
asked Nov 26 '18 at 17:07
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May you seek about a compact for which every sequence u(n) converge to 0 by the means of distribution Topology D(R)
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– zeraoulia rafik
Nov 26 '18 at 17:39
$begingroup$
@zeraouliarafik unfortunately I don't think distribution topology is a way here because I have any background on this
$endgroup$
– Lucas Zanella
Nov 26 '18 at 18:25
$begingroup$
Since you have posted PDE in your tag , and all your given data indicate the uses of distribution partically the convergence to the null function in the the Topology of distribution
$endgroup$
– zeraoulia rafik
Nov 26 '18 at 18:30
$begingroup$
Your last argument seems good to me. See the third characterization in en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…
$endgroup$
– Federico
Nov 29 '18 at 18:08
add a comment |
$begingroup$
May you seek about a compact for which every sequence u(n) converge to 0 by the means of distribution Topology D(R)
$endgroup$
– zeraoulia rafik
Nov 26 '18 at 17:39
$begingroup$
@zeraouliarafik unfortunately I don't think distribution topology is a way here because I have any background on this
$endgroup$
– Lucas Zanella
Nov 26 '18 at 18:25
$begingroup$
Since you have posted PDE in your tag , and all your given data indicate the uses of distribution partically the convergence to the null function in the the Topology of distribution
$endgroup$
– zeraoulia rafik
Nov 26 '18 at 18:30
$begingroup$
Your last argument seems good to me. See the third characterization in en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…
$endgroup$
– Federico
Nov 29 '18 at 18:08
$begingroup$
May you seek about a compact for which every sequence u(n) converge to 0 by the means of distribution Topology D(R)
$endgroup$
– zeraoulia rafik
Nov 26 '18 at 17:39
$begingroup$
May you seek about a compact for which every sequence u(n) converge to 0 by the means of distribution Topology D(R)
$endgroup$
– zeraoulia rafik
Nov 26 '18 at 17:39
$begingroup$
@zeraouliarafik unfortunately I don't think distribution topology is a way here because I have any background on this
$endgroup$
– Lucas Zanella
Nov 26 '18 at 18:25
$begingroup$
@zeraouliarafik unfortunately I don't think distribution topology is a way here because I have any background on this
$endgroup$
– Lucas Zanella
Nov 26 '18 at 18:25
$begingroup$
Since you have posted PDE in your tag , and all your given data indicate the uses of distribution partically the convergence to the null function in the the Topology of distribution
$endgroup$
– zeraoulia rafik
Nov 26 '18 at 18:30
$begingroup$
Since you have posted PDE in your tag , and all your given data indicate the uses of distribution partically the convergence to the null function in the the Topology of distribution
$endgroup$
– zeraoulia rafik
Nov 26 '18 at 18:30
$begingroup$
Your last argument seems good to me. See the third characterization in en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…
$endgroup$
– Federico
Nov 29 '18 at 18:08
$begingroup$
Your last argument seems good to me. See the third characterization in en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…
$endgroup$
– Federico
Nov 29 '18 at 18:08
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You are right for $s<1$, these functions are analytic. In fact, such a $u$ is entire. Expanding $u$ at any point $x_0$ where it is originally defined, we have the Taylor series
$u(x) = sum_{n=0}^infty frac {u^{(n)}(x_0)}{n!} (x-x_0)^n$.
The radius of convergence $R$ of this series satisfies
$$ frac1R = limsup_{ntoinfty} sqrt[n]{frac {u^{(n)}(x_0)}{n!}}le lim_{ntoinfty} Csqrt[n]{frac {1}{(n!)^{1-s}}} = 0,$$
since $n!sim sqrt{2pi n} (n/e)^n$. So the series converges on $mathbb R,$ and defines an analytic extension past $K$.
Bur for $s>1$, you cannot get the chain of inequalities
$$ sup_{xin B}|partial^{alpha} f(x)|le
C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!^s$$
starting from
$$ sup_{xin B}|partial^{alpha} f(x)| le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!^s.$$
It is the other way, an analytic function(i.e. $s=1$) is also Gevrey class of order $s>1$. The Gevrey class for $s>1$ contains non-analytic functions: for instance $exp(-1/x)mathbb1_{x>0}$ is Gevrey but not analytic, see my computation in Bounding the extrema of polynomials from $frac{d^n}{dx^n} exp(-1/x)$.
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You are right for $s<1$, these functions are analytic. In fact, such a $u$ is entire. Expanding $u$ at any point $x_0$ where it is originally defined, we have the Taylor series
$u(x) = sum_{n=0}^infty frac {u^{(n)}(x_0)}{n!} (x-x_0)^n$.
The radius of convergence $R$ of this series satisfies
$$ frac1R = limsup_{ntoinfty} sqrt[n]{frac {u^{(n)}(x_0)}{n!}}le lim_{ntoinfty} Csqrt[n]{frac {1}{(n!)^{1-s}}} = 0,$$
since $n!sim sqrt{2pi n} (n/e)^n$. So the series converges on $mathbb R,$ and defines an analytic extension past $K$.
Bur for $s>1$, you cannot get the chain of inequalities
$$ sup_{xin B}|partial^{alpha} f(x)|le
C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!^s$$
starting from
$$ sup_{xin B}|partial^{alpha} f(x)| le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!^s.$$
It is the other way, an analytic function(i.e. $s=1$) is also Gevrey class of order $s>1$. The Gevrey class for $s>1$ contains non-analytic functions: for instance $exp(-1/x)mathbb1_{x>0}$ is Gevrey but not analytic, see my computation in Bounding the extrema of polynomials from $frac{d^n}{dx^n} exp(-1/x)$.
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You are right for $s<1$, these functions are analytic. In fact, such a $u$ is entire. Expanding $u$ at any point $x_0$ where it is originally defined, we have the Taylor series
$u(x) = sum_{n=0}^infty frac {u^{(n)}(x_0)}{n!} (x-x_0)^n$.
The radius of convergence $R$ of this series satisfies
$$ frac1R = limsup_{ntoinfty} sqrt[n]{frac {u^{(n)}(x_0)}{n!}}le lim_{ntoinfty} Csqrt[n]{frac {1}{(n!)^{1-s}}} = 0,$$
since $n!sim sqrt{2pi n} (n/e)^n$. So the series converges on $mathbb R,$ and defines an analytic extension past $K$.
Bur for $s>1$, you cannot get the chain of inequalities
$$ sup_{xin B}|partial^{alpha} f(x)|le
C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!^s$$
starting from
$$ sup_{xin B}|partial^{alpha} f(x)| le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!^s.$$
It is the other way, an analytic function(i.e. $s=1$) is also Gevrey class of order $s>1$. The Gevrey class for $s>1$ contains non-analytic functions: for instance $exp(-1/x)mathbb1_{x>0}$ is Gevrey but not analytic, see my computation in Bounding the extrema of polynomials from $frac{d^n}{dx^n} exp(-1/x)$.
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You are right for $s<1$, these functions are analytic. In fact, such a $u$ is entire. Expanding $u$ at any point $x_0$ where it is originally defined, we have the Taylor series
$u(x) = sum_{n=0}^infty frac {u^{(n)}(x_0)}{n!} (x-x_0)^n$.
The radius of convergence $R$ of this series satisfies
$$ frac1R = limsup_{ntoinfty} sqrt[n]{frac {u^{(n)}(x_0)}{n!}}le lim_{ntoinfty} Csqrt[n]{frac {1}{(n!)^{1-s}}} = 0,$$
since $n!sim sqrt{2pi n} (n/e)^n$. So the series converges on $mathbb R,$ and defines an analytic extension past $K$.
Bur for $s>1$, you cannot get the chain of inequalities
$$ sup_{xin B}|partial^{alpha} f(x)|le
C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!^s$$
starting from
$$ sup_{xin B}|partial^{alpha} f(x)| le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!^s.$$
It is the other way, an analytic function(i.e. $s=1$) is also Gevrey class of order $s>1$. The Gevrey class for $s>1$ contains non-analytic functions: for instance $exp(-1/x)mathbb1_{x>0}$ is Gevrey but not analytic, see my computation in Bounding the extrema of polynomials from $frac{d^n}{dx^n} exp(-1/x)$.
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You are right for $s<1$, these functions are analytic. In fact, such a $u$ is entire. Expanding $u$ at any point $x_0$ where it is originally defined, we have the Taylor series
$u(x) = sum_{n=0}^infty frac {u^{(n)}(x_0)}{n!} (x-x_0)^n$.
The radius of convergence $R$ of this series satisfies
$$ frac1R = limsup_{ntoinfty} sqrt[n]{frac {u^{(n)}(x_0)}{n!}}le lim_{ntoinfty} Csqrt[n]{frac {1}{(n!)^{1-s}}} = 0,$$
since $n!sim sqrt{2pi n} (n/e)^n$. So the series converges on $mathbb R,$ and defines an analytic extension past $K$.
Bur for $s>1$, you cannot get the chain of inequalities
$$ sup_{xin B}|partial^{alpha} f(x)|le
C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!^s$$
starting from
$$ sup_{xin B}|partial^{alpha} f(x)| le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!^s.$$
It is the other way, an analytic function(i.e. $s=1$) is also Gevrey class of order $s>1$. The Gevrey class for $s>1$ contains non-analytic functions: for instance $exp(-1/x)mathbb1_{x>0}$ is Gevrey but not analytic, see my computation in Bounding the extrema of polynomials from $frac{d^n}{dx^n} exp(-1/x)$.
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May you seek about a compact for which every sequence u(n) converge to 0 by the means of distribution Topology D(R)
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– zeraoulia rafik
Nov 26 '18 at 17:39
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@zeraouliarafik unfortunately I don't think distribution topology is a way here because I have any background on this
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– Lucas Zanella
Nov 26 '18 at 18:25
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Since you have posted PDE in your tag , and all your given data indicate the uses of distribution partically the convergence to the null function in the the Topology of distribution
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– zeraoulia rafik
Nov 26 '18 at 18:30
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Your last argument seems good to me. See the third characterization in en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…
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– Federico
Nov 29 '18 at 18:08