fnpct autocite causes whitespace problems with csquotes blockcquote












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In the following example, using fnpct for the biblatex autocite command causes unwanted whitespace when a period occurs directly after the the quote.



documentclass{article}
usepackage[ngerman]{babel}

usepackage{filecontents}
begin{filecontents}{jobname.bib}
@article{greenwade93,
author = "George D. Greenwade",
title = "The {C}omprehensive {T}ex {A}rchive {N}etwork ({CTAN})",
year = "1993",
journal = "TUGBoat",
}
@book{goossens93,
author = "Michel Goossens and Frank Mittelbach and Alexander Samarin",
title = "The LaTeX Companion",
year = "1993",
}
end{filecontents}

usepackage{csquotes}
usepackage[backend=biber,style=authoryear-ibid,date=year,autocite=footnote,giveninits=true]{biblatex}

SetCiteCommand{autocite} % used by csquotes

usepackage{fnpct}
AdaptNoteOptautocitemultfootcite

bibliography{jobname}
begin{document}
null
vfill
blockcquote[see][123]{greenwade93}{Famous quote}. But the period causes an unwanted space to appear.
blockcquote[see][123]{greenwade93}{Which is fixed by moving the period inside the quotation.} See?

The problem is caused by texttt{fnpct}.

texttt{fnpct} is needed to quote multiple authors at once, but in separate footnotesautocite{greenwade93}autocite{goossens93}
end{document}


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    In the following example, using fnpct for the biblatex autocite command causes unwanted whitespace when a period occurs directly after the the quote.



    documentclass{article}
    usepackage[ngerman]{babel}

    usepackage{filecontents}
    begin{filecontents}{jobname.bib}
    @article{greenwade93,
    author = "George D. Greenwade",
    title = "The {C}omprehensive {T}ex {A}rchive {N}etwork ({CTAN})",
    year = "1993",
    journal = "TUGBoat",
    }
    @book{goossens93,
    author = "Michel Goossens and Frank Mittelbach and Alexander Samarin",
    title = "The LaTeX Companion",
    year = "1993",
    }
    end{filecontents}

    usepackage{csquotes}
    usepackage[backend=biber,style=authoryear-ibid,date=year,autocite=footnote,giveninits=true]{biblatex}

    SetCiteCommand{autocite} % used by csquotes

    usepackage{fnpct}
    AdaptNoteOptautocitemultfootcite

    bibliography{jobname}
    begin{document}
    null
    vfill
    blockcquote[see][123]{greenwade93}{Famous quote}. But the period causes an unwanted space to appear.
    blockcquote[see][123]{greenwade93}{Which is fixed by moving the period inside the quotation.} See?

    The problem is caused by texttt{fnpct}.

    texttt{fnpct} is needed to quote multiple authors at once, but in separate footnotesautocite{greenwade93}autocite{goossens93}
    end{document}


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      In the following example, using fnpct for the biblatex autocite command causes unwanted whitespace when a period occurs directly after the the quote.



      documentclass{article}
      usepackage[ngerman]{babel}

      usepackage{filecontents}
      begin{filecontents}{jobname.bib}
      @article{greenwade93,
      author = "George D. Greenwade",
      title = "The {C}omprehensive {T}ex {A}rchive {N}etwork ({CTAN})",
      year = "1993",
      journal = "TUGBoat",
      }
      @book{goossens93,
      author = "Michel Goossens and Frank Mittelbach and Alexander Samarin",
      title = "The LaTeX Companion",
      year = "1993",
      }
      end{filecontents}

      usepackage{csquotes}
      usepackage[backend=biber,style=authoryear-ibid,date=year,autocite=footnote,giveninits=true]{biblatex}

      SetCiteCommand{autocite} % used by csquotes

      usepackage{fnpct}
      AdaptNoteOptautocitemultfootcite

      bibliography{jobname}
      begin{document}
      null
      vfill
      blockcquote[see][123]{greenwade93}{Famous quote}. But the period causes an unwanted space to appear.
      blockcquote[see][123]{greenwade93}{Which is fixed by moving the period inside the quotation.} See?

      The problem is caused by texttt{fnpct}.

      texttt{fnpct} is needed to quote multiple authors at once, but in separate footnotesautocite{greenwade93}autocite{goossens93}
      end{document}


      enter image description here



      Is it possible to configure fnpct to not add space between quotation mark and period?










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      In the following example, using fnpct for the biblatex autocite command causes unwanted whitespace when a period occurs directly after the the quote.



      documentclass{article}
      usepackage[ngerman]{babel}

      usepackage{filecontents}
      begin{filecontents}{jobname.bib}
      @article{greenwade93,
      author = "George D. Greenwade",
      title = "The {C}omprehensive {T}ex {A}rchive {N}etwork ({CTAN})",
      year = "1993",
      journal = "TUGBoat",
      }
      @book{goossens93,
      author = "Michel Goossens and Frank Mittelbach and Alexander Samarin",
      title = "The LaTeX Companion",
      year = "1993",
      }
      end{filecontents}

      usepackage{csquotes}
      usepackage[backend=biber,style=authoryear-ibid,date=year,autocite=footnote,giveninits=true]{biblatex}

      SetCiteCommand{autocite} % used by csquotes

      usepackage{fnpct}
      AdaptNoteOptautocitemultfootcite

      bibliography{jobname}
      begin{document}
      null
      vfill
      blockcquote[see][123]{greenwade93}{Famous quote}. But the period causes an unwanted space to appear.
      blockcquote[see][123]{greenwade93}{Which is fixed by moving the period inside the quotation.} See?

      The problem is caused by texttt{fnpct}.

      texttt{fnpct} is needed to quote multiple authors at once, but in separate footnotesautocite{greenwade93}autocite{goossens93}
      end{document}


      enter image description here



      Is it possible to configure fnpct to not add space between quotation mark and period?







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          As far as I can see the issue here is that handing control of autocite over to fnpct destroys autocite's ability to remove preceding whitespace. With biblatex's definition



          Lorem autocite{sigfridsson}.


          and



          Loremautocite{sigfridsson}.


          produce the same output since autocite issues unspace. But as soon as fnpct takes the reins, those two lines behave differently.



          Usually this is not going to be much of a problem since you probably never leave a space before footnote or autocite anyway. But with the default settings of csquotes commands like blockcquote leave a space before they call autocite (assuming the usual definition of biblatex's citation commands that make sense: many commands need a space in front of the ...cite so they don't stick to the text before and footcite, autocite and friends can deal with preceding space just fine). You can explicitly tell csquotes not to leave a space before calling the citation command by redefining mkccitation, cf. also page 30 of the csquotes documentation,



          renewcommand{mkccitation}[1]{#1}


          The full MWE



          documentclass{article}
          usepackage[ngerman]{babel}
          usepackage{csquotes}
          usepackage[backend=biber,style=authoryear-ibid,date=year,autocite=footnote,giveninits=true]{biblatex}

          SetCiteCommand{autocite}
          renewcommand{mkccitation}[1]{#1}

          usepackage{fnpct}
          AdaptNoteOptautocitemultfootcite

          addbibresource{biblatex-examples.bib}
          begin{document}
          null
          vfill
          blockcquote[see][123]{sigfridsson}{Famous quote}. But the period causes an unwanted space to appear.
          blockcquote[see][123]{sigfridsson}{Which is fixed by moving the period inside the quotation.} See?

          The problem is caused by texttt{fnpct}.

          texttt{fnpct} is needed to quote multiple authors at once, but in separate footnotesautocite{sigfridsson}autocite{sigfridsson}

          Lorem autocite{sigfridsson}.

          Loremautocite{sigfridsson}.
          end{document}


          then gives the expected output.



          Output of the example. The <code>fnpct</code>-controlled footnotes don't suppress previous space. <code>blockcquote</code> displays as intended again.



          I'm still having trouble uploading output pictures. Sorry. If you would like to add images of the result, feel free to do so. See https://v1.overleaf.com/read/hgvsffpjwjbt for a demo.






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          As far as I can see the issue here is that handing control of autocite over to fnpct destroys autocite's ability to remove preceding whitespace. With biblatex's definition



          Lorem autocite{sigfridsson}.


          and



          Loremautocite{sigfridsson}.


          produce the same output since autocite issues unspace. But as soon as fnpct takes the reins, those two lines behave differently.



          Usually this is not going to be much of a problem since you probably never leave a space before footnote or autocite anyway. But with the default settings of csquotes commands like blockcquote leave a space before they call autocite (assuming the usual definition of biblatex's citation commands that make sense: many commands need a space in front of the ...cite so they don't stick to the text before and footcite, autocite and friends can deal with preceding space just fine). You can explicitly tell csquotes not to leave a space before calling the citation command by redefining mkccitation, cf. also page 30 of the csquotes documentation,



          renewcommand{mkccitation}[1]{#1}


          The full MWE



          documentclass{article}
          usepackage[ngerman]{babel}
          usepackage{csquotes}
          usepackage[backend=biber,style=authoryear-ibid,date=year,autocite=footnote,giveninits=true]{biblatex}

          SetCiteCommand{autocite}
          renewcommand{mkccitation}[1]{#1}

          usepackage{fnpct}
          AdaptNoteOptautocitemultfootcite

          addbibresource{biblatex-examples.bib}
          begin{document}
          null
          vfill
          blockcquote[see][123]{sigfridsson}{Famous quote}. But the period causes an unwanted space to appear.
          blockcquote[see][123]{sigfridsson}{Which is fixed by moving the period inside the quotation.} See?

          The problem is caused by texttt{fnpct}.

          texttt{fnpct} is needed to quote multiple authors at once, but in separate footnotesautocite{sigfridsson}autocite{sigfridsson}

          Lorem autocite{sigfridsson}.

          Loremautocite{sigfridsson}.
          end{document}


          then gives the expected output.



          Output of the example. The <code>fnpct</code>-controlled footnotes don't suppress previous space. <code>blockcquote</code> displays as intended again.



          I'm still having trouble uploading output pictures. Sorry. If you would like to add images of the result, feel free to do so. See https://v1.overleaf.com/read/hgvsffpjwjbt for a demo.






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          • Thank you @moewe for clarifying what's happening here
            – Stefan
            Dec 28 '18 at 11:58










          • @Stefan Thanks for the picture edit.
            – moewe
            Dec 28 '18 at 12:27
















          3














          As far as I can see the issue here is that handing control of autocite over to fnpct destroys autocite's ability to remove preceding whitespace. With biblatex's definition



          Lorem autocite{sigfridsson}.


          and



          Loremautocite{sigfridsson}.


          produce the same output since autocite issues unspace. But as soon as fnpct takes the reins, those two lines behave differently.



          Usually this is not going to be much of a problem since you probably never leave a space before footnote or autocite anyway. But with the default settings of csquotes commands like blockcquote leave a space before they call autocite (assuming the usual definition of biblatex's citation commands that make sense: many commands need a space in front of the ...cite so they don't stick to the text before and footcite, autocite and friends can deal with preceding space just fine). You can explicitly tell csquotes not to leave a space before calling the citation command by redefining mkccitation, cf. also page 30 of the csquotes documentation,



          renewcommand{mkccitation}[1]{#1}


          The full MWE



          documentclass{article}
          usepackage[ngerman]{babel}
          usepackage{csquotes}
          usepackage[backend=biber,style=authoryear-ibid,date=year,autocite=footnote,giveninits=true]{biblatex}

          SetCiteCommand{autocite}
          renewcommand{mkccitation}[1]{#1}

          usepackage{fnpct}
          AdaptNoteOptautocitemultfootcite

          addbibresource{biblatex-examples.bib}
          begin{document}
          null
          vfill
          blockcquote[see][123]{sigfridsson}{Famous quote}. But the period causes an unwanted space to appear.
          blockcquote[see][123]{sigfridsson}{Which is fixed by moving the period inside the quotation.} See?

          The problem is caused by texttt{fnpct}.

          texttt{fnpct} is needed to quote multiple authors at once, but in separate footnotesautocite{sigfridsson}autocite{sigfridsson}

          Lorem autocite{sigfridsson}.

          Loremautocite{sigfridsson}.
          end{document}


          then gives the expected output.



          Output of the example. The <code>fnpct</code>-controlled footnotes don't suppress previous space. <code>blockcquote</code> displays as intended again.



          I'm still having trouble uploading output pictures. Sorry. If you would like to add images of the result, feel free to do so. See https://v1.overleaf.com/read/hgvsffpjwjbt for a demo.






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          • Thank you @moewe for clarifying what's happening here
            – Stefan
            Dec 28 '18 at 11:58










          • @Stefan Thanks for the picture edit.
            – moewe
            Dec 28 '18 at 12:27














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          3








          3






          As far as I can see the issue here is that handing control of autocite over to fnpct destroys autocite's ability to remove preceding whitespace. With biblatex's definition



          Lorem autocite{sigfridsson}.


          and



          Loremautocite{sigfridsson}.


          produce the same output since autocite issues unspace. But as soon as fnpct takes the reins, those two lines behave differently.



          Usually this is not going to be much of a problem since you probably never leave a space before footnote or autocite anyway. But with the default settings of csquotes commands like blockcquote leave a space before they call autocite (assuming the usual definition of biblatex's citation commands that make sense: many commands need a space in front of the ...cite so they don't stick to the text before and footcite, autocite and friends can deal with preceding space just fine). You can explicitly tell csquotes not to leave a space before calling the citation command by redefining mkccitation, cf. also page 30 of the csquotes documentation,



          renewcommand{mkccitation}[1]{#1}


          The full MWE



          documentclass{article}
          usepackage[ngerman]{babel}
          usepackage{csquotes}
          usepackage[backend=biber,style=authoryear-ibid,date=year,autocite=footnote,giveninits=true]{biblatex}

          SetCiteCommand{autocite}
          renewcommand{mkccitation}[1]{#1}

          usepackage{fnpct}
          AdaptNoteOptautocitemultfootcite

          addbibresource{biblatex-examples.bib}
          begin{document}
          null
          vfill
          blockcquote[see][123]{sigfridsson}{Famous quote}. But the period causes an unwanted space to appear.
          blockcquote[see][123]{sigfridsson}{Which is fixed by moving the period inside the quotation.} See?

          The problem is caused by texttt{fnpct}.

          texttt{fnpct} is needed to quote multiple authors at once, but in separate footnotesautocite{sigfridsson}autocite{sigfridsson}

          Lorem autocite{sigfridsson}.

          Loremautocite{sigfridsson}.
          end{document}


          then gives the expected output.



          Output of the example. The <code>fnpct</code>-controlled footnotes don't suppress previous space. <code>blockcquote</code> displays as intended again.



          I'm still having trouble uploading output pictures. Sorry. If you would like to add images of the result, feel free to do so. See https://v1.overleaf.com/read/hgvsffpjwjbt for a demo.






          share|improve this answer














          As far as I can see the issue here is that handing control of autocite over to fnpct destroys autocite's ability to remove preceding whitespace. With biblatex's definition



          Lorem autocite{sigfridsson}.


          and



          Loremautocite{sigfridsson}.


          produce the same output since autocite issues unspace. But as soon as fnpct takes the reins, those two lines behave differently.



          Usually this is not going to be much of a problem since you probably never leave a space before footnote or autocite anyway. But with the default settings of csquotes commands like blockcquote leave a space before they call autocite (assuming the usual definition of biblatex's citation commands that make sense: many commands need a space in front of the ...cite so they don't stick to the text before and footcite, autocite and friends can deal with preceding space just fine). You can explicitly tell csquotes not to leave a space before calling the citation command by redefining mkccitation, cf. also page 30 of the csquotes documentation,



          renewcommand{mkccitation}[1]{#1}


          The full MWE



          documentclass{article}
          usepackage[ngerman]{babel}
          usepackage{csquotes}
          usepackage[backend=biber,style=authoryear-ibid,date=year,autocite=footnote,giveninits=true]{biblatex}

          SetCiteCommand{autocite}
          renewcommand{mkccitation}[1]{#1}

          usepackage{fnpct}
          AdaptNoteOptautocitemultfootcite

          addbibresource{biblatex-examples.bib}
          begin{document}
          null
          vfill
          blockcquote[see][123]{sigfridsson}{Famous quote}. But the period causes an unwanted space to appear.
          blockcquote[see][123]{sigfridsson}{Which is fixed by moving the period inside the quotation.} See?

          The problem is caused by texttt{fnpct}.

          texttt{fnpct} is needed to quote multiple authors at once, but in separate footnotesautocite{sigfridsson}autocite{sigfridsson}

          Lorem autocite{sigfridsson}.

          Loremautocite{sigfridsson}.
          end{document}


          then gives the expected output.



          Output of the example. The <code>fnpct</code>-controlled footnotes don't suppress previous space. <code>blockcquote</code> displays as intended again.



          I'm still having trouble uploading output pictures. Sorry. If you would like to add images of the result, feel free to do so. See https://v1.overleaf.com/read/hgvsffpjwjbt for a demo.







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          • Thank you @moewe for clarifying what's happening here
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          • @Stefan Thanks for the picture edit.
            – moewe
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          • Thank you @moewe for clarifying what's happening here
            – Stefan
            Dec 28 '18 at 11:58










          • @Stefan Thanks for the picture edit.
            – moewe
            Dec 28 '18 at 12:27
















          Thank you @moewe for clarifying what's happening here
          – Stefan
          Dec 28 '18 at 11:58




          Thank you @moewe for clarifying what's happening here
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          @Stefan Thanks for the picture edit.
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