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  • All wrong, "mentionworthy". :)
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  • All wrong, "mentionworthy". :)
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  • All wrong, "mentionworthy". :)
    – stuart stevenson
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  • All wrong, "mentionworthy". :)
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All wrong, "mentionworthy". :)
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All wrong, "mentionworthy". :)
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  • +1 for the conversational neutral-register option.
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    I feel like "worth mentioning" and "worthy of mention" have rather distinct and different connotations. "Worth mentioning" has a connotation of something you you should mention to whom its relevant as a courtesy. Whereas "worthy of mention" has an air of something that is somehow impressive or a great accomplishment. I guess the main distinction as I see it is that something is "worth mentioning" because the listener deserves to hear about it, whereas something is "worthy of mention" because the thing itself deserves to be known.
    – Shufflepants
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  • As such, I don't think the two can be used interchangeably unless the thing being mentioned is something that fits both categories of something the listener deserves to hear and something that deserves to be heard.
    – Shufflepants
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worth mentioning as Alex_ander offers is in neutral conversational register.



worthy of mention is in a slightly elevated register.



Forget the other two options, as they're not idiomatic.



worth a mention is in a more casual register.






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  • worth mentioning & worth a mention are both common (UK). Don't think I've heard "worthy of mention" - it doesn't sound 'wrong', but maybe a little pompous in comparison.
    – Algy Taylor
    Nov 29 at 15:04












  • I've heard "worthy of mention" used in meetings, though almost entirely in the negative, eg. "I didn't consider it worthy of mention". I've also heard it used to refer to people in this way.
    – JTPenguin
    Nov 29 at 16:37










  • @JTPenguin: It needn't be negative. Something can be certainly worthy of mention. books.google.com/ngrams/…
    – Tᴚoɯɐuo
    Nov 29 at 16:40










  • @Algy Taylor: As I wrote, "a slightly elevated register", though I wouldn't go as far as to call it "pompous" by any means. But such judgments are subjective, I will admit.
    – Tᴚoɯɐuo
    Nov 29 at 16:40












  • @Tᴚoɯɐuo I've just spent 20 minutes having fun playing with this, I can't believe I didn't know about this before!
    – JTPenguin
    Nov 29 at 17:00



















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According the the Oxford Dictionary, mention can be a mass noun, which does not require an a, or a countable noun which does require an a. The Oxford Dictionary states that the countable form is British only, but the American dictionary Merriam-Webster also describes a countable form.



mentioning could be an active participle or a gerund derived from the verb mention: in this context, it is an active participle, which must not be used with an a.



The first three of your examples are therefore correct: the fourth is not correct because an active participle does not take an a.






Note that definitely is a mid-position adverb, and mid-position adverbs go after the first auxiliary verb- in this case, after would.

happening can in principle be used as a singular noun, but it has a 1960's hippie feel. Event would probably be more appropriate, unless you are talking about an event where people smoked lots of hash.
If you apply those two corrections, you get:




That kind of event would definitely have been worthy of mention.







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    • +1 for the conversational neutral-register option.
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      I feel like "worth mentioning" and "worthy of mention" have rather distinct and different connotations. "Worth mentioning" has a connotation of something you you should mention to whom its relevant as a courtesy. Whereas "worthy of mention" has an air of something that is somehow impressive or a great accomplishment. I guess the main distinction as I see it is that something is "worth mentioning" because the listener deserves to hear about it, whereas something is "worthy of mention" because the thing itself deserves to be known.
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    • As such, I don't think the two can be used interchangeably unless the thing being mentioned is something that fits both categories of something the listener deserves to hear and something that deserves to be heard.
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    • +1 for the conversational neutral-register option.
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      Nov 29 at 10:56






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      I feel like "worth mentioning" and "worthy of mention" have rather distinct and different connotations. "Worth mentioning" has a connotation of something you you should mention to whom its relevant as a courtesy. Whereas "worthy of mention" has an air of something that is somehow impressive or a great accomplishment. I guess the main distinction as I see it is that something is "worth mentioning" because the listener deserves to hear about it, whereas something is "worthy of mention" because the thing itself deserves to be known.
      – Shufflepants
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    • As such, I don't think the two can be used interchangeably unless the thing being mentioned is something that fits both categories of something the listener deserves to hear and something that deserves to be heard.
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    • +1 for the conversational neutral-register option.
      – Tᴚoɯɐuo
      Nov 29 at 10:56






    • 1




      I feel like "worth mentioning" and "worthy of mention" have rather distinct and different connotations. "Worth mentioning" has a connotation of something you you should mention to whom its relevant as a courtesy. Whereas "worthy of mention" has an air of something that is somehow impressive or a great accomplishment. I guess the main distinction as I see it is that something is "worth mentioning" because the listener deserves to hear about it, whereas something is "worthy of mention" because the thing itself deserves to be known.
      – Shufflepants
      Nov 29 at 16:04










    • As such, I don't think the two can be used interchangeably unless the thing being mentioned is something that fits both categories of something the listener deserves to hear and something that deserves to be heard.
      – Shufflepants
      Nov 29 at 16:07


















    • +1 for the conversational neutral-register option.
      – Tᴚoɯɐuo
      Nov 29 at 10:56






    • 1




      I feel like "worth mentioning" and "worthy of mention" have rather distinct and different connotations. "Worth mentioning" has a connotation of something you you should mention to whom its relevant as a courtesy. Whereas "worthy of mention" has an air of something that is somehow impressive or a great accomplishment. I guess the main distinction as I see it is that something is "worth mentioning" because the listener deserves to hear about it, whereas something is "worthy of mention" because the thing itself deserves to be known.
      – Shufflepants
      Nov 29 at 16:04










    • As such, I don't think the two can be used interchangeably unless the thing being mentioned is something that fits both categories of something the listener deserves to hear and something that deserves to be heard.
      – Shufflepants
      Nov 29 at 16:07
















    +1 for the conversational neutral-register option.
    – Tᴚoɯɐuo
    Nov 29 at 10:56




    +1 for the conversational neutral-register option.
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    Nov 29 at 10:56




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    I feel like "worth mentioning" and "worthy of mention" have rather distinct and different connotations. "Worth mentioning" has a connotation of something you you should mention to whom its relevant as a courtesy. Whereas "worthy of mention" has an air of something that is somehow impressive or a great accomplishment. I guess the main distinction as I see it is that something is "worth mentioning" because the listener deserves to hear about it, whereas something is "worthy of mention" because the thing itself deserves to be known.
    – Shufflepants
    Nov 29 at 16:04




    I feel like "worth mentioning" and "worthy of mention" have rather distinct and different connotations. "Worth mentioning" has a connotation of something you you should mention to whom its relevant as a courtesy. Whereas "worthy of mention" has an air of something that is somehow impressive or a great accomplishment. I guess the main distinction as I see it is that something is "worth mentioning" because the listener deserves to hear about it, whereas something is "worthy of mention" because the thing itself deserves to be known.
    – Shufflepants
    Nov 29 at 16:04












    As such, I don't think the two can be used interchangeably unless the thing being mentioned is something that fits both categories of something the listener deserves to hear and something that deserves to be heard.
    – Shufflepants
    Nov 29 at 16:07




    As such, I don't think the two can be used interchangeably unless the thing being mentioned is something that fits both categories of something the listener deserves to hear and something that deserves to be heard.
    – Shufflepants
    Nov 29 at 16:07













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    worth mentioning as Alex_ander offers is in neutral conversational register.



    worthy of mention is in a slightly elevated register.



    Forget the other two options, as they're not idiomatic.



    worth a mention is in a more casual register.






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    • worth mentioning & worth a mention are both common (UK). Don't think I've heard "worthy of mention" - it doesn't sound 'wrong', but maybe a little pompous in comparison.
      – Algy Taylor
      Nov 29 at 15:04












    • I've heard "worthy of mention" used in meetings, though almost entirely in the negative, eg. "I didn't consider it worthy of mention". I've also heard it used to refer to people in this way.
      – JTPenguin
      Nov 29 at 16:37










    • @JTPenguin: It needn't be negative. Something can be certainly worthy of mention. books.google.com/ngrams/…
      – Tᴚoɯɐuo
      Nov 29 at 16:40










    • @Algy Taylor: As I wrote, "a slightly elevated register", though I wouldn't go as far as to call it "pompous" by any means. But such judgments are subjective, I will admit.
      – Tᴚoɯɐuo
      Nov 29 at 16:40












    • @Tᴚoɯɐuo I've just spent 20 minutes having fun playing with this, I can't believe I didn't know about this before!
      – JTPenguin
      Nov 29 at 17:00
















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    worth mentioning as Alex_ander offers is in neutral conversational register.



    worthy of mention is in a slightly elevated register.



    Forget the other two options, as they're not idiomatic.



    worth a mention is in a more casual register.






    share|improve this answer





















    • worth mentioning & worth a mention are both common (UK). Don't think I've heard "worthy of mention" - it doesn't sound 'wrong', but maybe a little pompous in comparison.
      – Algy Taylor
      Nov 29 at 15:04












    • I've heard "worthy of mention" used in meetings, though almost entirely in the negative, eg. "I didn't consider it worthy of mention". I've also heard it used to refer to people in this way.
      – JTPenguin
      Nov 29 at 16:37










    • @JTPenguin: It needn't be negative. Something can be certainly worthy of mention. books.google.com/ngrams/…
      – Tᴚoɯɐuo
      Nov 29 at 16:40










    • @Algy Taylor: As I wrote, "a slightly elevated register", though I wouldn't go as far as to call it "pompous" by any means. But such judgments are subjective, I will admit.
      – Tᴚoɯɐuo
      Nov 29 at 16:40












    • @Tᴚoɯɐuo I've just spent 20 minutes having fun playing with this, I can't believe I didn't know about this before!
      – JTPenguin
      Nov 29 at 17:00














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    worth mentioning as Alex_ander offers is in neutral conversational register.



    worthy of mention is in a slightly elevated register.



    Forget the other two options, as they're not idiomatic.



    worth a mention is in a more casual register.






    share|improve this answer












    worth mentioning as Alex_ander offers is in neutral conversational register.



    worthy of mention is in a slightly elevated register.



    Forget the other two options, as they're not idiomatic.



    worth a mention is in a more casual register.







    share|improve this answer












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    answered Nov 29 at 10:57









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    • worth mentioning & worth a mention are both common (UK). Don't think I've heard "worthy of mention" - it doesn't sound 'wrong', but maybe a little pompous in comparison.
      – Algy Taylor
      Nov 29 at 15:04












    • I've heard "worthy of mention" used in meetings, though almost entirely in the negative, eg. "I didn't consider it worthy of mention". I've also heard it used to refer to people in this way.
      – JTPenguin
      Nov 29 at 16:37










    • @JTPenguin: It needn't be negative. Something can be certainly worthy of mention. books.google.com/ngrams/…
      – Tᴚoɯɐuo
      Nov 29 at 16:40










    • @Algy Taylor: As I wrote, "a slightly elevated register", though I wouldn't go as far as to call it "pompous" by any means. But such judgments are subjective, I will admit.
      – Tᴚoɯɐuo
      Nov 29 at 16:40












    • @Tᴚoɯɐuo I've just spent 20 minutes having fun playing with this, I can't believe I didn't know about this before!
      – JTPenguin
      Nov 29 at 17:00


















    • worth mentioning & worth a mention are both common (UK). Don't think I've heard "worthy of mention" - it doesn't sound 'wrong', but maybe a little pompous in comparison.
      – Algy Taylor
      Nov 29 at 15:04












    • I've heard "worthy of mention" used in meetings, though almost entirely in the negative, eg. "I didn't consider it worthy of mention". I've also heard it used to refer to people in this way.
      – JTPenguin
      Nov 29 at 16:37










    • @JTPenguin: It needn't be negative. Something can be certainly worthy of mention. books.google.com/ngrams/…
      – Tᴚoɯɐuo
      Nov 29 at 16:40










    • @Algy Taylor: As I wrote, "a slightly elevated register", though I wouldn't go as far as to call it "pompous" by any means. But such judgments are subjective, I will admit.
      – Tᴚoɯɐuo
      Nov 29 at 16:40












    • @Tᴚoɯɐuo I've just spent 20 minutes having fun playing with this, I can't believe I didn't know about this before!
      – JTPenguin
      Nov 29 at 17:00
















    worth mentioning & worth a mention are both common (UK). Don't think I've heard "worthy of mention" - it doesn't sound 'wrong', but maybe a little pompous in comparison.
    – Algy Taylor
    Nov 29 at 15:04






    worth mentioning & worth a mention are both common (UK). Don't think I've heard "worthy of mention" - it doesn't sound 'wrong', but maybe a little pompous in comparison.
    – Algy Taylor
    Nov 29 at 15:04














    I've heard "worthy of mention" used in meetings, though almost entirely in the negative, eg. "I didn't consider it worthy of mention". I've also heard it used to refer to people in this way.
    – JTPenguin
    Nov 29 at 16:37




    I've heard "worthy of mention" used in meetings, though almost entirely in the negative, eg. "I didn't consider it worthy of mention". I've also heard it used to refer to people in this way.
    – JTPenguin
    Nov 29 at 16:37












    @JTPenguin: It needn't be negative. Something can be certainly worthy of mention. books.google.com/ngrams/…
    – Tᴚoɯɐuo
    Nov 29 at 16:40




    @JTPenguin: It needn't be negative. Something can be certainly worthy of mention. books.google.com/ngrams/…
    – Tᴚoɯɐuo
    Nov 29 at 16:40












    @Algy Taylor: As I wrote, "a slightly elevated register", though I wouldn't go as far as to call it "pompous" by any means. But such judgments are subjective, I will admit.
    – Tᴚoɯɐuo
    Nov 29 at 16:40






    @Algy Taylor: As I wrote, "a slightly elevated register", though I wouldn't go as far as to call it "pompous" by any means. But such judgments are subjective, I will admit.
    – Tᴚoɯɐuo
    Nov 29 at 16:40














    @Tᴚoɯɐuo I've just spent 20 minutes having fun playing with this, I can't believe I didn't know about this before!
    – JTPenguin
    Nov 29 at 17:00




    @Tᴚoɯɐuo I've just spent 20 minutes having fun playing with this, I can't believe I didn't know about this before!
    – JTPenguin
    Nov 29 at 17:00











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    According the the Oxford Dictionary, mention can be a mass noun, which does not require an a, or a countable noun which does require an a. The Oxford Dictionary states that the countable form is British only, but the American dictionary Merriam-Webster also describes a countable form.



    mentioning could be an active participle or a gerund derived from the verb mention: in this context, it is an active participle, which must not be used with an a.



    The first three of your examples are therefore correct: the fourth is not correct because an active participle does not take an a.






    Note that definitely is a mid-position adverb, and mid-position adverbs go after the first auxiliary verb- in this case, after would.

    happening can in principle be used as a singular noun, but it has a 1960's hippie feel. Event would probably be more appropriate, unless you are talking about an event where people smoked lots of hash.
    If you apply those two corrections, you get:




    That kind of event would definitely have been worthy of mention.







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      According the the Oxford Dictionary, mention can be a mass noun, which does not require an a, or a countable noun which does require an a. The Oxford Dictionary states that the countable form is British only, but the American dictionary Merriam-Webster also describes a countable form.



      mentioning could be an active participle or a gerund derived from the verb mention: in this context, it is an active participle, which must not be used with an a.



      The first three of your examples are therefore correct: the fourth is not correct because an active participle does not take an a.






      Note that definitely is a mid-position adverb, and mid-position adverbs go after the first auxiliary verb- in this case, after would.

      happening can in principle be used as a singular noun, but it has a 1960's hippie feel. Event would probably be more appropriate, unless you are talking about an event where people smoked lots of hash.
      If you apply those two corrections, you get:




      That kind of event would definitely have been worthy of mention.







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        According the the Oxford Dictionary, mention can be a mass noun, which does not require an a, or a countable noun which does require an a. The Oxford Dictionary states that the countable form is British only, but the American dictionary Merriam-Webster also describes a countable form.



        mentioning could be an active participle or a gerund derived from the verb mention: in this context, it is an active participle, which must not be used with an a.



        The first three of your examples are therefore correct: the fourth is not correct because an active participle does not take an a.






        Note that definitely is a mid-position adverb, and mid-position adverbs go after the first auxiliary verb- in this case, after would.

        happening can in principle be used as a singular noun, but it has a 1960's hippie feel. Event would probably be more appropriate, unless you are talking about an event where people smoked lots of hash.
        If you apply those two corrections, you get:




        That kind of event would definitely have been worthy of mention.







        share|improve this answer














        According the the Oxford Dictionary, mention can be a mass noun, which does not require an a, or a countable noun which does require an a. The Oxford Dictionary states that the countable form is British only, but the American dictionary Merriam-Webster also describes a countable form.



        mentioning could be an active participle or a gerund derived from the verb mention: in this context, it is an active participle, which must not be used with an a.



        The first three of your examples are therefore correct: the fourth is not correct because an active participle does not take an a.






        Note that definitely is a mid-position adverb, and mid-position adverbs go after the first auxiliary verb- in this case, after would.

        happening can in principle be used as a singular noun, but it has a 1960's hippie feel. Event would probably be more appropriate, unless you are talking about an event where people smoked lots of hash.
        If you apply those two corrections, you get:




        That kind of event would definitely have been worthy of mention.








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