LuaTeX and em dashes












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LuaLaTeX is not inserting em dashes unless there is space around the triple dash.
It works fine when using a unicode em dash, or explicitly using the textemdash macro.



Here is a MWE:



documentclass{article}

begin{document}

begin{enumerate}
item en--dash
item em---dash
item em --- dash space
end{enumerate}
begin{enumerate}
item en–dash unicode
item em—dash unicode
item em — dash space unicode
end{enumerate}
begin{enumerate}
item entextendash{}dash macro
item emtextemdash{}dash macro
item em textemdash{} dash space macro
end{enumerate}

end{document}


Which produces:



missing em dashes



Compiled using LuaTeX, Version 1.07.0 (TeX Live 2018)



The question is:



I would like to know why em dash ligatures without surrounding spaces are not rendered as em dashes in the PDF output. It seems like a bug to me. how can I fix it?










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  • Welcome to TeX.SE! Please what is the question here?

    – Kurt
    Feb 28 at 6:33











  • @Kurt The question is "em dash ligatures that aren't followed by spaces aren't rendered as em dashes, and how can I fix it?"

    – Alan Munn
    Feb 28 at 6:38











  • See also github.com/u-fischer/luaotfload/issues/44 and the discussion starting with mailman.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2019/094208.html at the ConTeXt mailing list.

    – moewe
    Feb 28 at 6:46






  • 1





    @AndyN Yesterday I was going to ask this exact same question before I found the mailing list moewe pointed you to. Another funny combination is item em---dash---twice. Apparently when a word is surrounded by two em-dashes, the first one is rendered as an en-dash, while the second shows up normally.

    – Phelype Oleinik
    Feb 28 at 11:07






  • 1





    I added the question at the end of your question, I hope that is okay for you! If not please feel free to do a rollback.

    – Kurt
    Mar 1 at 1:11
















10















LuaLaTeX is not inserting em dashes unless there is space around the triple dash.
It works fine when using a unicode em dash, or explicitly using the textemdash macro.



Here is a MWE:



documentclass{article}

begin{document}

begin{enumerate}
item en--dash
item em---dash
item em --- dash space
end{enumerate}
begin{enumerate}
item en–dash unicode
item em—dash unicode
item em — dash space unicode
end{enumerate}
begin{enumerate}
item entextendash{}dash macro
item emtextemdash{}dash macro
item em textemdash{} dash space macro
end{enumerate}

end{document}


Which produces:



missing em dashes



Compiled using LuaTeX, Version 1.07.0 (TeX Live 2018)



The question is:



I would like to know why em dash ligatures without surrounding spaces are not rendered as em dashes in the PDF output. It seems like a bug to me. how can I fix it?










share|improve this question

























  • Welcome to TeX.SE! Please what is the question here?

    – Kurt
    Feb 28 at 6:33











  • @Kurt The question is "em dash ligatures that aren't followed by spaces aren't rendered as em dashes, and how can I fix it?"

    – Alan Munn
    Feb 28 at 6:38











  • See also github.com/u-fischer/luaotfload/issues/44 and the discussion starting with mailman.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2019/094208.html at the ConTeXt mailing list.

    – moewe
    Feb 28 at 6:46






  • 1





    @AndyN Yesterday I was going to ask this exact same question before I found the mailing list moewe pointed you to. Another funny combination is item em---dash---twice. Apparently when a word is surrounded by two em-dashes, the first one is rendered as an en-dash, while the second shows up normally.

    – Phelype Oleinik
    Feb 28 at 11:07






  • 1





    I added the question at the end of your question, I hope that is okay for you! If not please feel free to do a rollback.

    – Kurt
    Mar 1 at 1:11














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LuaLaTeX is not inserting em dashes unless there is space around the triple dash.
It works fine when using a unicode em dash, or explicitly using the textemdash macro.



Here is a MWE:



documentclass{article}

begin{document}

begin{enumerate}
item en--dash
item em---dash
item em --- dash space
end{enumerate}
begin{enumerate}
item en–dash unicode
item em—dash unicode
item em — dash space unicode
end{enumerate}
begin{enumerate}
item entextendash{}dash macro
item emtextemdash{}dash macro
item em textemdash{} dash space macro
end{enumerate}

end{document}


Which produces:



missing em dashes



Compiled using LuaTeX, Version 1.07.0 (TeX Live 2018)



The question is:



I would like to know why em dash ligatures without surrounding spaces are not rendered as em dashes in the PDF output. It seems like a bug to me. how can I fix it?










share|improve this question
















LuaLaTeX is not inserting em dashes unless there is space around the triple dash.
It works fine when using a unicode em dash, or explicitly using the textemdash macro.



Here is a MWE:



documentclass{article}

begin{document}

begin{enumerate}
item en--dash
item em---dash
item em --- dash space
end{enumerate}
begin{enumerate}
item en–dash unicode
item em—dash unicode
item em — dash space unicode
end{enumerate}
begin{enumerate}
item entextendash{}dash macro
item emtextemdash{}dash macro
item em textemdash{} dash space macro
end{enumerate}

end{document}


Which produces:



missing em dashes



Compiled using LuaTeX, Version 1.07.0 (TeX Live 2018)



The question is:



I would like to know why em dash ligatures without surrounding spaces are not rendered as em dashes in the PDF output. It seems like a bug to me. how can I fix it?







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  • Welcome to TeX.SE! Please what is the question here?

    – Kurt
    Feb 28 at 6:33











  • @Kurt The question is "em dash ligatures that aren't followed by spaces aren't rendered as em dashes, and how can I fix it?"

    – Alan Munn
    Feb 28 at 6:38











  • See also github.com/u-fischer/luaotfload/issues/44 and the discussion starting with mailman.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2019/094208.html at the ConTeXt mailing list.

    – moewe
    Feb 28 at 6:46






  • 1





    @AndyN Yesterday I was going to ask this exact same question before I found the mailing list moewe pointed you to. Another funny combination is item em---dash---twice. Apparently when a word is surrounded by two em-dashes, the first one is rendered as an en-dash, while the second shows up normally.

    – Phelype Oleinik
    Feb 28 at 11:07






  • 1





    I added the question at the end of your question, I hope that is okay for you! If not please feel free to do a rollback.

    – Kurt
    Mar 1 at 1:11



















  • Welcome to TeX.SE! Please what is the question here?

    – Kurt
    Feb 28 at 6:33











  • @Kurt The question is "em dash ligatures that aren't followed by spaces aren't rendered as em dashes, and how can I fix it?"

    – Alan Munn
    Feb 28 at 6:38











  • See also github.com/u-fischer/luaotfload/issues/44 and the discussion starting with mailman.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2019/094208.html at the ConTeXt mailing list.

    – moewe
    Feb 28 at 6:46






  • 1





    @AndyN Yesterday I was going to ask this exact same question before I found the mailing list moewe pointed you to. Another funny combination is item em---dash---twice. Apparently when a word is surrounded by two em-dashes, the first one is rendered as an en-dash, while the second shows up normally.

    – Phelype Oleinik
    Feb 28 at 11:07






  • 1





    I added the question at the end of your question, I hope that is okay for you! If not please feel free to do a rollback.

    – Kurt
    Mar 1 at 1:11

















Welcome to TeX.SE! Please what is the question here?

– Kurt
Feb 28 at 6:33





Welcome to TeX.SE! Please what is the question here?

– Kurt
Feb 28 at 6:33













@Kurt The question is "em dash ligatures that aren't followed by spaces aren't rendered as em dashes, and how can I fix it?"

– Alan Munn
Feb 28 at 6:38





@Kurt The question is "em dash ligatures that aren't followed by spaces aren't rendered as em dashes, and how can I fix it?"

– Alan Munn
Feb 28 at 6:38













See also github.com/u-fischer/luaotfload/issues/44 and the discussion starting with mailman.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2019/094208.html at the ConTeXt mailing list.

– moewe
Feb 28 at 6:46





See also github.com/u-fischer/luaotfload/issues/44 and the discussion starting with mailman.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2019/094208.html at the ConTeXt mailing list.

– moewe
Feb 28 at 6:46




1




1





@AndyN Yesterday I was going to ask this exact same question before I found the mailing list moewe pointed you to. Another funny combination is item em---dash---twice. Apparently when a word is surrounded by two em-dashes, the first one is rendered as an en-dash, while the second shows up normally.

– Phelype Oleinik
Feb 28 at 11:07





@AndyN Yesterday I was going to ask this exact same question before I found the mailing list moewe pointed you to. Another funny combination is item em---dash---twice. Apparently when a word is surrounded by two em-dashes, the first one is rendered as an en-dash, while the second shows up normally.

– Phelype Oleinik
Feb 28 at 11:07




1




1





I added the question at the end of your question, I hope that is okay for you! If not please feel free to do a rollback.

– Kurt
Mar 1 at 1:11





I added the question at the end of your question, I hope that is okay for you! If not please feel free to do a rollback.

– Kurt
Mar 1 at 1:11










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You can add automatichyphenmode=1 to your preamble:



documentclass{article}
automatichyphenmode=1
begin{document}

begin{enumerate}
item en--dash
item em---dash
item em --- dash space
end{enumerate}
begin{enumerate}
item en–dash unicode
item em—dash unicode
item em — dash space unicode
end{enumerate}
begin{enumerate}
item entextendash{}dash macro
item emtextemdash{}dash macro
item em textemdash{} dash space macro
end{enumerate}

end{document}


output of code






share|improve this answer
























  • This fixes the problem. Though I'm still not sure why.

    – Andy N
    Feb 28 at 7:00



















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To expand a bit on Alan's answer:



It is imho clearly a bug in the fontloader imported from context (you see the same in context if you set automatichyphenmode=0). It only happens if the fonts are rendered with the mode=node:



documentclass{article}

begin{document}
fonttest={file:lmroman10-regular.otf:mode=node;+tlig}
test

A---B

fonttest={file:lmroman10-regular.otf:mode=base;+tlig}
test

A---B
end{document}


enter image description here



The source of the problem is imho that with automatichyphenmode=0, luatex has at first to convert the last hyphen to a discretionary to allow a linebreak:



A---B  ---> A--discretionary{-}{}{-}B


and after the line has been set this has to be converted back again to ---, and this step seems to fail.



The problem has been reported, but it is unclear if it will be fixed.



automatichyphenmode=1 avoids the problem by not converting the hyphen to a discretionary in a number of cases. So you should be aware of the fact that this suppress line breaking in a number of cases:



documentclass[parskip=half-]{scrartcl}
begin{document}


parbox[t]{1pt}{%
textbf{0}

automatichyphenmode=0
A-B

A--B

A---B

-begin

A!-B}
hspace{2cm}
parbox[t]{1pt}{automatichyphenmode=1
textbf{1}

A-B

A--B

A---B

-begin

A!-B}

end{document}


enter image description here






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    You can add automatichyphenmode=1 to your preamble:



    documentclass{article}
    automatichyphenmode=1
    begin{document}

    begin{enumerate}
    item en--dash
    item em---dash
    item em --- dash space
    end{enumerate}
    begin{enumerate}
    item en–dash unicode
    item em—dash unicode
    item em — dash space unicode
    end{enumerate}
    begin{enumerate}
    item entextendash{}dash macro
    item emtextemdash{}dash macro
    item em textemdash{} dash space macro
    end{enumerate}

    end{document}


    output of code






    share|improve this answer
























    • This fixes the problem. Though I'm still not sure why.

      – Andy N
      Feb 28 at 7:00
















    12














    You can add automatichyphenmode=1 to your preamble:



    documentclass{article}
    automatichyphenmode=1
    begin{document}

    begin{enumerate}
    item en--dash
    item em---dash
    item em --- dash space
    end{enumerate}
    begin{enumerate}
    item en–dash unicode
    item em—dash unicode
    item em — dash space unicode
    end{enumerate}
    begin{enumerate}
    item entextendash{}dash macro
    item emtextemdash{}dash macro
    item em textemdash{} dash space macro
    end{enumerate}

    end{document}


    output of code






    share|improve this answer
























    • This fixes the problem. Though I'm still not sure why.

      – Andy N
      Feb 28 at 7:00














    12












    12








    12







    You can add automatichyphenmode=1 to your preamble:



    documentclass{article}
    automatichyphenmode=1
    begin{document}

    begin{enumerate}
    item en--dash
    item em---dash
    item em --- dash space
    end{enumerate}
    begin{enumerate}
    item en–dash unicode
    item em—dash unicode
    item em — dash space unicode
    end{enumerate}
    begin{enumerate}
    item entextendash{}dash macro
    item emtextemdash{}dash macro
    item em textemdash{} dash space macro
    end{enumerate}

    end{document}


    output of code






    share|improve this answer













    You can add automatichyphenmode=1 to your preamble:



    documentclass{article}
    automatichyphenmode=1
    begin{document}

    begin{enumerate}
    item en--dash
    item em---dash
    item em --- dash space
    end{enumerate}
    begin{enumerate}
    item en–dash unicode
    item em—dash unicode
    item em — dash space unicode
    end{enumerate}
    begin{enumerate}
    item entextendash{}dash macro
    item emtextemdash{}dash macro
    item em textemdash{} dash space macro
    end{enumerate}

    end{document}


    output of code







    share|improve this answer












    share|improve this answer



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    • This fixes the problem. Though I'm still not sure why.

      – Andy N
      Feb 28 at 7:00



















    • This fixes the problem. Though I'm still not sure why.

      – Andy N
      Feb 28 at 7:00

















    This fixes the problem. Though I'm still not sure why.

    – Andy N
    Feb 28 at 7:00





    This fixes the problem. Though I'm still not sure why.

    – Andy N
    Feb 28 at 7:00











    17














    To expand a bit on Alan's answer:



    It is imho clearly a bug in the fontloader imported from context (you see the same in context if you set automatichyphenmode=0). It only happens if the fonts are rendered with the mode=node:



    documentclass{article}

    begin{document}
    fonttest={file:lmroman10-regular.otf:mode=node;+tlig}
    test

    A---B

    fonttest={file:lmroman10-regular.otf:mode=base;+tlig}
    test

    A---B
    end{document}


    enter image description here



    The source of the problem is imho that with automatichyphenmode=0, luatex has at first to convert the last hyphen to a discretionary to allow a linebreak:



    A---B  ---> A--discretionary{-}{}{-}B


    and after the line has been set this has to be converted back again to ---, and this step seems to fail.



    The problem has been reported, but it is unclear if it will be fixed.



    automatichyphenmode=1 avoids the problem by not converting the hyphen to a discretionary in a number of cases. So you should be aware of the fact that this suppress line breaking in a number of cases:



    documentclass[parskip=half-]{scrartcl}
    begin{document}


    parbox[t]{1pt}{%
    textbf{0}

    automatichyphenmode=0
    A-B

    A--B

    A---B

    -begin

    A!-B}
    hspace{2cm}
    parbox[t]{1pt}{automatichyphenmode=1
    textbf{1}

    A-B

    A--B

    A---B

    -begin

    A!-B}

    end{document}


    enter image description here






    share|improve this answer




























      17














      To expand a bit on Alan's answer:



      It is imho clearly a bug in the fontloader imported from context (you see the same in context if you set automatichyphenmode=0). It only happens if the fonts are rendered with the mode=node:



      documentclass{article}

      begin{document}
      fonttest={file:lmroman10-regular.otf:mode=node;+tlig}
      test

      A---B

      fonttest={file:lmroman10-regular.otf:mode=base;+tlig}
      test

      A---B
      end{document}


      enter image description here



      The source of the problem is imho that with automatichyphenmode=0, luatex has at first to convert the last hyphen to a discretionary to allow a linebreak:



      A---B  ---> A--discretionary{-}{}{-}B


      and after the line has been set this has to be converted back again to ---, and this step seems to fail.



      The problem has been reported, but it is unclear if it will be fixed.



      automatichyphenmode=1 avoids the problem by not converting the hyphen to a discretionary in a number of cases. So you should be aware of the fact that this suppress line breaking in a number of cases:



      documentclass[parskip=half-]{scrartcl}
      begin{document}


      parbox[t]{1pt}{%
      textbf{0}

      automatichyphenmode=0
      A-B

      A--B

      A---B

      -begin

      A!-B}
      hspace{2cm}
      parbox[t]{1pt}{automatichyphenmode=1
      textbf{1}

      A-B

      A--B

      A---B

      -begin

      A!-B}

      end{document}


      enter image description here






      share|improve this answer


























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        17







        To expand a bit on Alan's answer:



        It is imho clearly a bug in the fontloader imported from context (you see the same in context if you set automatichyphenmode=0). It only happens if the fonts are rendered with the mode=node:



        documentclass{article}

        begin{document}
        fonttest={file:lmroman10-regular.otf:mode=node;+tlig}
        test

        A---B

        fonttest={file:lmroman10-regular.otf:mode=base;+tlig}
        test

        A---B
        end{document}


        enter image description here



        The source of the problem is imho that with automatichyphenmode=0, luatex has at first to convert the last hyphen to a discretionary to allow a linebreak:



        A---B  ---> A--discretionary{-}{}{-}B


        and after the line has been set this has to be converted back again to ---, and this step seems to fail.



        The problem has been reported, but it is unclear if it will be fixed.



        automatichyphenmode=1 avoids the problem by not converting the hyphen to a discretionary in a number of cases. So you should be aware of the fact that this suppress line breaking in a number of cases:



        documentclass[parskip=half-]{scrartcl}
        begin{document}


        parbox[t]{1pt}{%
        textbf{0}

        automatichyphenmode=0
        A-B

        A--B

        A---B

        -begin

        A!-B}
        hspace{2cm}
        parbox[t]{1pt}{automatichyphenmode=1
        textbf{1}

        A-B

        A--B

        A---B

        -begin

        A!-B}

        end{document}


        enter image description here






        share|improve this answer













        To expand a bit on Alan's answer:



        It is imho clearly a bug in the fontloader imported from context (you see the same in context if you set automatichyphenmode=0). It only happens if the fonts are rendered with the mode=node:



        documentclass{article}

        begin{document}
        fonttest={file:lmroman10-regular.otf:mode=node;+tlig}
        test

        A---B

        fonttest={file:lmroman10-regular.otf:mode=base;+tlig}
        test

        A---B
        end{document}


        enter image description here



        The source of the problem is imho that with automatichyphenmode=0, luatex has at first to convert the last hyphen to a discretionary to allow a linebreak:



        A---B  ---> A--discretionary{-}{}{-}B


        and after the line has been set this has to be converted back again to ---, and this step seems to fail.



        The problem has been reported, but it is unclear if it will be fixed.



        automatichyphenmode=1 avoids the problem by not converting the hyphen to a discretionary in a number of cases. So you should be aware of the fact that this suppress line breaking in a number of cases:



        documentclass[parskip=half-]{scrartcl}
        begin{document}


        parbox[t]{1pt}{%
        textbf{0}

        automatichyphenmode=0
        A-B

        A--B

        A---B

        -begin

        A!-B}
        hspace{2cm}
        parbox[t]{1pt}{automatichyphenmode=1
        textbf{1}

        A-B

        A--B

        A---B

        -begin

        A!-B}

        end{document}


        enter image description here







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