Does babel portuguese obey the new ortography rules (Novo Acordo Ortográfico)?
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I just noticed that, when I use babel Portuguese, a rule like today produces something like 13 de Março de 2019. But this is wrong in regards to the new orthography of Portuguese (Novo Acordo Ortográfico), because name of months should not be capitalized. Is this a problem with my installation? If not, where can I report the bug or pull request a change?
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asked Mar 13 at 3:21
Fred GuthFred Guth
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I just noticed that, when I use babel Portuguese, a rule like today produces something like 13 de Março de 2019. But this is wrong in regards to the new orthography of Portuguese (Novo Acordo Ortográfico), because name of months should not be capitalized. Is this a problem with my installation? If not, where can I report the bug or pull request a change?
babel
asked Mar 13 at 3:21
Fred GuthFred Guth
1234
The package site on CTAN (ctan.org/pkg/babel-portuges) lists the currentbabelmaintainer as the package maintainer. The documentation does not have more contact information (this is somewhat unusual, normally it contains an email address or a link to a bug tracking system). The website of thebabelmaintainer is texnia.com and it has a contact form, you could try to get in touch with him there.
– moewe
Mar 13 at 5:20
@moewe, I think all thebabelcode is tracked through the mainlatex2egithub repository: github.com/latex3/latex2e
– David Purton
Mar 13 at 6:20
@DavidPurton The mainbabelstuff definitely, but I don't think all language modules are even maintained by Javier. Plus he has github.com/jbezos/babel-spanish and github.com/jbezos/babel-english, so it seems they are decoupled from thebabelcore. But at least posting tolatex2ewould log the issue...
– moewe
Mar 13 at 6:22
@moewe, you are right!latexbugreports thatportuges.ldfis a third party file, not part core LaTeX.
– David Purton
Mar 13 at 6:29
1
Fred Guth, I just notice you are from Brazil. You probably wantusepackage[brazilian]{babel}.
– David Purton
Mar 13 at 6:33
add a comment |
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4
I just noticed that, when I use babel Portuguese, a rule like today produces something like 13 de Março de 2019. But this is wrong in regards to the new orthography of Portuguese (Novo Acordo Ortográfico), because name of months should not be capitalized. Is this a problem with my installation? If not, where can I report the bug or pull request a change?
babel
asked Mar 13 at 3:21
Fred GuthFred Guth
1234
I just noticed that, when I use babel Portuguese, a rule like today produces something like 13 de Março de 2019. But this is wrong in regards to the new orthography of Portuguese (Novo Acordo Ortográfico), because name of months should not be capitalized. Is this a problem with my installation? If not, where can I report the bug or pull request a change?
babel
babel
asked Mar 13 at 3:21
Fred GuthFred Guth
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asked Mar 13 at 3:21
Fred GuthFred Guth
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Fred GuthFred Guth
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Fred GuthFred Guth
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asked Mar 13 at 3:21
Fred GuthFred Guth
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The package site on CTAN (ctan.org/pkg/babel-portuges) lists the currentbabelmaintainer as the package maintainer. The documentation does not have more contact information (this is somewhat unusual, normally it contains an email address or a link to a bug tracking system). The website of thebabelmaintainer is texnia.com and it has a contact form, you could try to get in touch with him there.
– moewe
Mar 13 at 5:20
@moewe, I think all thebabelcode is tracked through the mainlatex2egithub repository: github.com/latex3/latex2e
– David Purton
Mar 13 at 6:20
@DavidPurton The mainbabelstuff definitely, but I don't think all language modules are even maintained by Javier. Plus he has github.com/jbezos/babel-spanish and github.com/jbezos/babel-english, so it seems they are decoupled from thebabelcore. But at least posting tolatex2ewould log the issue...
– moewe
Mar 13 at 6:22
@moewe, you are right!latexbugreports thatportuges.ldfis a third party file, not part core LaTeX.
– David Purton
Mar 13 at 6:29
1
Fred Guth, I just notice you are from Brazil. You probably wantusepackage[brazilian]{babel}.
– David Purton
Mar 13 at 6:33
add a comment |
The package site on CTAN (ctan.org/pkg/babel-portuges) lists the currentbabelmaintainer as the package maintainer. The documentation does not have more contact information (this is somewhat unusual, normally it contains an email address or a link to a bug tracking system). The website of thebabelmaintainer is texnia.com and it has a contact form, you could try to get in touch with him there.
– moewe
Mar 13 at 5:20
@moewe, I think all thebabelcode is tracked through the mainlatex2egithub repository: github.com/latex3/latex2e
– David Purton
Mar 13 at 6:20
@DavidPurton The mainbabelstuff definitely, but I don't think all language modules are even maintained by Javier. Plus he has github.com/jbezos/babel-spanish and github.com/jbezos/babel-english, so it seems they are decoupled from thebabelcore. But at least posting tolatex2ewould log the issue...
– moewe
Mar 13 at 6:22
@moewe, you are right!latexbugreports thatportuges.ldfis a third party file, not part core LaTeX.
– David Purton
Mar 13 at 6:29
1
Fred Guth, I just notice you are from Brazil. You probably wantusepackage[brazilian]{babel}.
– David Purton
Mar 13 at 6:33
The package site on CTAN (ctan.org/pkg/babel-portuges) lists the current
babel maintainer as the package maintainer. The documentation does not have more contact information (this is somewhat unusual, normally it contains an email address or a link to a bug tracking system). The website of the babel maintainer is texnia.com and it has a contact form, you could try to get in touch with him there.– moewe
Mar 13 at 5:20
The package site on CTAN (ctan.org/pkg/babel-portuges) lists the current
babel maintainer as the package maintainer. The documentation does not have more contact information (this is somewhat unusual, normally it contains an email address or a link to a bug tracking system). The website of the babel maintainer is texnia.com and it has a contact form, you could try to get in touch with him there.– moewe
Mar 13 at 5:20
@moewe, I think all the
babel code is tracked through the main latex2e github repository: github.com/latex3/latex2e– David Purton
Mar 13 at 6:20
@moewe, I think all the
babel code is tracked through the main latex2e github repository: github.com/latex3/latex2e– David Purton
Mar 13 at 6:20
@DavidPurton The main
babel stuff definitely, but I don't think all language modules are even maintained by Javier. Plus he has github.com/jbezos/babel-spanish and github.com/jbezos/babel-english, so it seems they are decoupled from the babel core. But at least posting to latex2e would log the issue...– moewe
Mar 13 at 6:22
@DavidPurton The main
babel stuff definitely, but I don't think all language modules are even maintained by Javier. Plus he has github.com/jbezos/babel-spanish and github.com/jbezos/babel-english, so it seems they are decoupled from the babel core. But at least posting to latex2e would log the issue...– moewe
Mar 13 at 6:22
@moewe, you are right!
latexbug reports that portuges.ldf is a third party file, not part core LaTeX.– David Purton
Mar 13 at 6:29
@moewe, you are right!
latexbug reports that portuges.ldf is a third party file, not part core LaTeX.– David Purton
Mar 13 at 6:29
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1
Fred Guth, I just notice you are from Brazil. You probably want
usepackage[brazilian]{babel}.– David Purton
Mar 13 at 6:33
Fred Guth, I just notice you are from Brazil. You probably want
usepackage[brazilian]{babel}.– David Purton
Mar 13 at 6:33
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I notice babel gives the output you want when using the new ini file system with import=pt.
However, it seems you are from Brazil. So maybe you could also try:
usepackage[brazil]{babel}
or
usepackage{babel}
usepackage[import=pt-BR,main]{portugues}
It seems that using
usepackage[portuguese]{babel}
or
usepackage{babel}
babelprovide[import=pt-PT,main]{portuguese}
gives uppercase months.
MWE
documentclass{article}
% option a
%usepackage[brazil]{babel} % or usepackage[brazilian]{babel}
% option b
%usepackage{babel}
%babelprovide[import=pt-BR,main]{portugues}
% option c
usepackage{babel}
babelprovide[import=pt,main]{portuguese}
% end options
begin{document}
today
end{document}
answered Mar 13 at 4:17
David PurtonDavid Purton
10.9k2941
Maybe we need anportuguesenow ...
– moewe
Mar 13 at 6:53
@moewe, beats me. I am an ignorant English only speaker and the differences between german and ngerman are all a bit lost on me :)
– David Purton
Mar 13 at 6:58
@moewe I don't think so:ngermanis needed because hyphenation is different; this is not the case for Portuguese.
– egreg
Mar 13 at 7:22
@egreg But how would you tellbabelthat you want the new (lowercase) month names in European Portuguese? Wikipedia suggests that the new orthography is different from both Euro-Portuguese and Brazilian usage in some details.
– moewe
Mar 13 at 7:33
@moewe An option would be sufficient.
– egreg
Mar 13 at 7:55
|
show 2 more comments
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This should be filed as a bug report to the maintainer of the babel-portuguese module.
In the meantime, you can fix it yourself in your documents:
documentclass{article}
usepackage[portuges]{babel}
lowercaseexpandafter{%
expandafterdefexpandafterdateportugesexpandafter{dateportuges}%
}
begin{document}
today
end{document}
Basically, dateportuges is redefined as itself, but with lowercase applied.
answered Mar 13 at 8:14
egregegreg
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I notice babel gives the output you want when using the new ini file system with import=pt.
However, it seems you are from Brazil. So maybe you could also try:
usepackage[brazil]{babel}
or
usepackage{babel}
usepackage[import=pt-BR,main]{portugues}
It seems that using
usepackage[portuguese]{babel}
or
usepackage{babel}
babelprovide[import=pt-PT,main]{portuguese}
gives uppercase months.
MWE
documentclass{article}
% option a
%usepackage[brazil]{babel} % or usepackage[brazilian]{babel}
% option b
%usepackage{babel}
%babelprovide[import=pt-BR,main]{portugues}
% option c
usepackage{babel}
babelprovide[import=pt,main]{portuguese}
% end options
begin{document}
today
end{document}
answered Mar 13 at 4:17
David PurtonDavid Purton
10.9k2941
Maybe we need anportuguesenow ...
– moewe
Mar 13 at 6:53
@moewe, beats me. I am an ignorant English only speaker and the differences between german and ngerman are all a bit lost on me :)
– David Purton
Mar 13 at 6:58
@moewe I don't think so:ngermanis needed because hyphenation is different; this is not the case for Portuguese.
– egreg
Mar 13 at 7:22
@egreg But how would you tellbabelthat you want the new (lowercase) month names in European Portuguese? Wikipedia suggests that the new orthography is different from both Euro-Portuguese and Brazilian usage in some details.
– moewe
Mar 13 at 7:33
@moewe An option would be sufficient.
– egreg
Mar 13 at 7:55
|
show 2 more comments
3
I notice babel gives the output you want when using the new ini file system with import=pt.
However, it seems you are from Brazil. So maybe you could also try:
usepackage[brazil]{babel}
or
usepackage{babel}
usepackage[import=pt-BR,main]{portugues}
It seems that using
usepackage[portuguese]{babel}
or
usepackage{babel}
babelprovide[import=pt-PT,main]{portuguese}
gives uppercase months.
MWE
documentclass{article}
% option a
%usepackage[brazil]{babel} % or usepackage[brazilian]{babel}
% option b
%usepackage{babel}
%babelprovide[import=pt-BR,main]{portugues}
% option c
usepackage{babel}
babelprovide[import=pt,main]{portuguese}
% end options
begin{document}
today
end{document}
answered Mar 13 at 4:17
David PurtonDavid Purton
10.9k2941
Maybe we need anportuguesenow ...
– moewe
Mar 13 at 6:53
@moewe, beats me. I am an ignorant English only speaker and the differences between german and ngerman are all a bit lost on me :)
– David Purton
Mar 13 at 6:58
@moewe I don't think so:ngermanis needed because hyphenation is different; this is not the case for Portuguese.
– egreg
Mar 13 at 7:22
@egreg But how would you tellbabelthat you want the new (lowercase) month names in European Portuguese? Wikipedia suggests that the new orthography is different from both Euro-Portuguese and Brazilian usage in some details.
– moewe
Mar 13 at 7:33
@moewe An option would be sufficient.
– egreg
Mar 13 at 7:55
|
show 2 more comments
3
3
3
I notice babel gives the output you want when using the new ini file system with import=pt.
However, it seems you are from Brazil. So maybe you could also try:
usepackage[brazil]{babel}
or
usepackage{babel}
usepackage[import=pt-BR,main]{portugues}
It seems that using
usepackage[portuguese]{babel}
or
usepackage{babel}
babelprovide[import=pt-PT,main]{portuguese}
gives uppercase months.
MWE
documentclass{article}
% option a
%usepackage[brazil]{babel} % or usepackage[brazilian]{babel}
% option b
%usepackage{babel}
%babelprovide[import=pt-BR,main]{portugues}
% option c
usepackage{babel}
babelprovide[import=pt,main]{portuguese}
% end options
begin{document}
today
end{document}
answered Mar 13 at 4:17
David PurtonDavid Purton
10.9k2941
I notice babel gives the output you want when using the new ini file system with import=pt.
However, it seems you are from Brazil. So maybe you could also try:
usepackage[brazil]{babel}
or
usepackage{babel}
usepackage[import=pt-BR,main]{portugues}
It seems that using
usepackage[portuguese]{babel}
or
usepackage{babel}
babelprovide[import=pt-PT,main]{portuguese}
gives uppercase months.
MWE
documentclass{article}
% option a
%usepackage[brazil]{babel} % or usepackage[brazilian]{babel}
% option b
%usepackage{babel}
%babelprovide[import=pt-BR,main]{portugues}
% option c
usepackage{babel}
babelprovide[import=pt,main]{portuguese}
% end options
begin{document}
today
end{document}
answered Mar 13 at 4:17
David PurtonDavid Purton
10.9k2941
edited Mar 13 at 6:43
answered Mar 13 at 4:17
David PurtonDavid Purton
10.9k2941
answered Mar 13 at 4:17
David PurtonDavid Purton
10.9k2941
answered Mar 13 at 4:17
David PurtonDavid Purton
10.9k2941
10.9k2941
Maybe we need anportuguesenow ...
– moewe
Mar 13 at 6:53
@moewe, beats me. I am an ignorant English only speaker and the differences between german and ngerman are all a bit lost on me :)
– David Purton
Mar 13 at 6:58
@moewe I don't think so:ngermanis needed because hyphenation is different; this is not the case for Portuguese.
– egreg
Mar 13 at 7:22
@egreg But how would you tellbabelthat you want the new (lowercase) month names in European Portuguese? Wikipedia suggests that the new orthography is different from both Euro-Portuguese and Brazilian usage in some details.
– moewe
Mar 13 at 7:33
@moewe An option would be sufficient.
– egreg
Mar 13 at 7:55
|
show 2 more comments
Maybe we need anportuguesenow ...
– moewe
Mar 13 at 6:53
@moewe, beats me. I am an ignorant English only speaker and the differences between german and ngerman are all a bit lost on me :)
– David Purton
Mar 13 at 6:58
@moewe I don't think so:ngermanis needed because hyphenation is different; this is not the case for Portuguese.
– egreg
Mar 13 at 7:22
@egreg But how would you tellbabelthat you want the new (lowercase) month names in European Portuguese? Wikipedia suggests that the new orthography is different from both Euro-Portuguese and Brazilian usage in some details.
– moewe
Mar 13 at 7:33
@moewe An option would be sufficient.
– egreg
Mar 13 at 7:55
Maybe we need a
nportuguese now ...– moewe
Mar 13 at 6:53
Maybe we need a
nportuguese now ...– moewe
Mar 13 at 6:53
@moewe, beats me. I am an ignorant English only speaker and the differences between german and ngerman are all a bit lost on me :)
– David Purton
Mar 13 at 6:58
@moewe, beats me. I am an ignorant English only speaker and the differences between german and ngerman are all a bit lost on me :)
– David Purton
Mar 13 at 6:58
@moewe I don't think so:
ngerman is needed because hyphenation is different; this is not the case for Portuguese.– egreg
Mar 13 at 7:22
@moewe I don't think so:
ngerman is needed because hyphenation is different; this is not the case for Portuguese.– egreg
Mar 13 at 7:22
@egreg But how would you tell
babel that you want the new (lowercase) month names in European Portuguese? Wikipedia suggests that the new orthography is different from both Euro-Portuguese and Brazilian usage in some details.– moewe
Mar 13 at 7:33
@egreg But how would you tell
babel that you want the new (lowercase) month names in European Portuguese? Wikipedia suggests that the new orthography is different from both Euro-Portuguese and Brazilian usage in some details.– moewe
Mar 13 at 7:33
@moewe An option would be sufficient.
– egreg
Mar 13 at 7:55
@moewe An option would be sufficient.
– egreg
Mar 13 at 7:55
|
show 2 more comments
3
This should be filed as a bug report to the maintainer of the babel-portuguese module.
In the meantime, you can fix it yourself in your documents:
documentclass{article}
usepackage[portuges]{babel}
lowercaseexpandafter{%
expandafterdefexpandafterdateportugesexpandafter{dateportuges}%
}
begin{document}
today
end{document}
Basically, dateportuges is redefined as itself, but with lowercase applied.
answered Mar 13 at 8:14
egregegreg
728k8819233233
add a comment |
3
This should be filed as a bug report to the maintainer of the babel-portuguese module.
In the meantime, you can fix it yourself in your documents:
documentclass{article}
usepackage[portuges]{babel}
lowercaseexpandafter{%
expandafterdefexpandafterdateportugesexpandafter{dateportuges}%
}
begin{document}
today
end{document}
Basically, dateportuges is redefined as itself, but with lowercase applied.
answered Mar 13 at 8:14
egregegreg
728k8819233233
add a comment |
3
3
3
This should be filed as a bug report to the maintainer of the babel-portuguese module.
In the meantime, you can fix it yourself in your documents:
documentclass{article}
usepackage[portuges]{babel}
lowercaseexpandafter{%
expandafterdefexpandafterdateportugesexpandafter{dateportuges}%
}
begin{document}
today
end{document}
Basically, dateportuges is redefined as itself, but with lowercase applied.
answered Mar 13 at 8:14
egregegreg
728k8819233233
This should be filed as a bug report to the maintainer of the babel-portuguese module.
In the meantime, you can fix it yourself in your documents:
documentclass{article}
usepackage[portuges]{babel}
lowercaseexpandafter{%
expandafterdefexpandafterdateportugesexpandafter{dateportuges}%
}
begin{document}
today
end{document}
Basically, dateportuges is redefined as itself, but with lowercase applied.
answered Mar 13 at 8:14
egregegreg
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answered Mar 13 at 8:14
egregegreg
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answered Mar 13 at 8:14
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The package site on CTAN (ctan.org/pkg/babel-portuges) lists the current
babelmaintainer as the package maintainer. The documentation does not have more contact information (this is somewhat unusual, normally it contains an email address or a link to a bug tracking system). The website of thebabelmaintainer is texnia.com and it has a contact form, you could try to get in touch with him there.– moewe
Mar 13 at 5:20
@moewe, I think all the
babelcode is tracked through the mainlatex2egithub repository: github.com/latex3/latex2e– David Purton
Mar 13 at 6:20
@DavidPurton The main
babelstuff definitely, but I don't think all language modules are even maintained by Javier. Plus he has github.com/jbezos/babel-spanish and github.com/jbezos/babel-english, so it seems they are decoupled from thebabelcore. But at least posting tolatex2ewould log the issue...– moewe
Mar 13 at 6:22
@moewe, you are right!
latexbugreports thatportuges.ldfis a third party file, not part core LaTeX.– David Purton
Mar 13 at 6:29
1
Fred Guth, I just notice you are from Brazil. You probably want
usepackage[brazilian]{babel}.– David Purton
Mar 13 at 6:33