$X$ compact metric implies $X$ separable
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I want to show that a compact metric space is a separable space.
Attempt:
Suppose $X$ is compact. Then it is complete and totally bounded. Taking $epsilon=frac{1}{n}$ in the definition of total boundedness gives me $exists x_1,x_2,ldots,$ such that $Xsubset bigcup_{i=1}^nB_{frac{1}{n}}(x_i)$..
how to continue?
real-analysis general-topology metric-spaces compactness separable-spaces
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I want to show that a compact metric space is a separable space.
Attempt:
Suppose $X$ is compact. Then it is complete and totally bounded. Taking $epsilon=frac{1}{n}$ in the definition of total boundedness gives me $exists x_1,x_2,ldots,$ such that $Xsubset bigcup_{i=1}^nB_{frac{1}{n}}(x_i)$..
how to continue?
real-analysis general-topology metric-spaces compactness separable-spaces
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Let $A_n:= {x_1,...x_n}$, the centers of the finite subcovers for balls with radius $1/n$. Then take $cup_{nin mathbb{N}} A_n$, this set is countable and dense.
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– Xiao
Dec 1 '14 at 16:57
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I understand why it is countable since the union of countable many points is once again countable. How do we know that set is dense though?
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– Jon
Dec 1 '14 at 17:03
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Try to show that for each $epsilon > 0$ and $xin X$, there exists $x_epsilon in X$ such that $d(x, x_epsilon) < epsilon$. Hint: there is a cover of $X$ with balls of radius $1/n < epsilon$, also that the center of these balls are in $A = cup_n A_n$.
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– Xiao
Dec 1 '14 at 17:43
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@Xiao Actually $A_n=left{x_1,ldots,x_{N_n}right}$, to avoid confusions.
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– Luiz Cordeiro
Dec 1 '14 at 19:01
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Compact does not imply separable, you may consider inserting the word metric in the title of your question.
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– Mirko
Dec 1 '14 at 20:24
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I want to show that a compact metric space is a separable space.
Attempt:
Suppose $X$ is compact. Then it is complete and totally bounded. Taking $epsilon=frac{1}{n}$ in the definition of total boundedness gives me $exists x_1,x_2,ldots,$ such that $Xsubset bigcup_{i=1}^nB_{frac{1}{n}}(x_i)$..
how to continue?
real-analysis general-topology metric-spaces compactness separable-spaces
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I want to show that a compact metric space is a separable space.
Attempt:
Suppose $X$ is compact. Then it is complete and totally bounded. Taking $epsilon=frac{1}{n}$ in the definition of total boundedness gives me $exists x_1,x_2,ldots,$ such that $Xsubset bigcup_{i=1}^nB_{frac{1}{n}}(x_i)$..
how to continue?
real-analysis general-topology metric-spaces compactness separable-spaces
real-analysis general-topology metric-spaces compactness separable-spaces
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asked Dec 1 '14 at 16:53
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Let $A_n:= {x_1,...x_n}$, the centers of the finite subcovers for balls with radius $1/n$. Then take $cup_{nin mathbb{N}} A_n$, this set is countable and dense.
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– Xiao
Dec 1 '14 at 16:57
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I understand why it is countable since the union of countable many points is once again countable. How do we know that set is dense though?
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– Jon
Dec 1 '14 at 17:03
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Try to show that for each $epsilon > 0$ and $xin X$, there exists $x_epsilon in X$ such that $d(x, x_epsilon) < epsilon$. Hint: there is a cover of $X$ with balls of radius $1/n < epsilon$, also that the center of these balls are in $A = cup_n A_n$.
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– Xiao
Dec 1 '14 at 17:43
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@Xiao Actually $A_n=left{x_1,ldots,x_{N_n}right}$, to avoid confusions.
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– Luiz Cordeiro
Dec 1 '14 at 19:01
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Compact does not imply separable, you may consider inserting the word metric in the title of your question.
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– Mirko
Dec 1 '14 at 20:24
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2
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Let $A_n:= {x_1,...x_n}$, the centers of the finite subcovers for balls with radius $1/n$. Then take $cup_{nin mathbb{N}} A_n$, this set is countable and dense.
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– Xiao
Dec 1 '14 at 16:57
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I understand why it is countable since the union of countable many points is once again countable. How do we know that set is dense though?
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– Jon
Dec 1 '14 at 17:03
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Try to show that for each $epsilon > 0$ and $xin X$, there exists $x_epsilon in X$ such that $d(x, x_epsilon) < epsilon$. Hint: there is a cover of $X$ with balls of radius $1/n < epsilon$, also that the center of these balls are in $A = cup_n A_n$.
$endgroup$
– Xiao
Dec 1 '14 at 17:43
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@Xiao Actually $A_n=left{x_1,ldots,x_{N_n}right}$, to avoid confusions.
$endgroup$
– Luiz Cordeiro
Dec 1 '14 at 19:01
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Compact does not imply separable, you may consider inserting the word metric in the title of your question.
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– Mirko
Dec 1 '14 at 20:24
2
2
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Let $A_n:= {x_1,...x_n}$, the centers of the finite subcovers for balls with radius $1/n$. Then take $cup_{nin mathbb{N}} A_n$, this set is countable and dense.
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– Xiao
Dec 1 '14 at 16:57
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Let $A_n:= {x_1,...x_n}$, the centers of the finite subcovers for balls with radius $1/n$. Then take $cup_{nin mathbb{N}} A_n$, this set is countable and dense.
$endgroup$
– Xiao
Dec 1 '14 at 16:57
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I understand why it is countable since the union of countable many points is once again countable. How do we know that set is dense though?
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– Jon
Dec 1 '14 at 17:03
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I understand why it is countable since the union of countable many points is once again countable. How do we know that set is dense though?
$endgroup$
– Jon
Dec 1 '14 at 17:03
$begingroup$
Try to show that for each $epsilon > 0$ and $xin X$, there exists $x_epsilon in X$ such that $d(x, x_epsilon) < epsilon$. Hint: there is a cover of $X$ with balls of radius $1/n < epsilon$, also that the center of these balls are in $A = cup_n A_n$.
$endgroup$
– Xiao
Dec 1 '14 at 17:43
$begingroup$
Try to show that for each $epsilon > 0$ and $xin X$, there exists $x_epsilon in X$ such that $d(x, x_epsilon) < epsilon$. Hint: there is a cover of $X$ with balls of radius $1/n < epsilon$, also that the center of these balls are in $A = cup_n A_n$.
$endgroup$
– Xiao
Dec 1 '14 at 17:43
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@Xiao Actually $A_n=left{x_1,ldots,x_{N_n}right}$, to avoid confusions.
$endgroup$
– Luiz Cordeiro
Dec 1 '14 at 19:01
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@Xiao Actually $A_n=left{x_1,ldots,x_{N_n}right}$, to avoid confusions.
$endgroup$
– Luiz Cordeiro
Dec 1 '14 at 19:01
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Compact does not imply separable, you may consider inserting the word metric in the title of your question.
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– Mirko
Dec 1 '14 at 20:24
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Compact does not imply separable, you may consider inserting the word metric in the title of your question.
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– Mirko
Dec 1 '14 at 20:24
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If $X$ is compact, there are points ${x_i^{(n)}}_{i=1}^{k_n}$ for all $n in mathbb N$ and finite $k_n$, such that
$$
X subset bigcup_{i=1}^{k_n} B(x_i,1/n) qquad (n in mathbb N)
$$
Now take the union of all the $x_i^{(n)}$ to get a countable dense subset of $X$.
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If $X$ is compact, there are points ${x_i^{(n)}}_{i=1}^{k_n}$ for all $n in mathbb N$ and finite $k_n$, such that
$$
X subset bigcup_{i=1}^{k_n} B(x_i,1/n) qquad (n in mathbb N)
$$
Now take the union of all the $x_i^{(n)}$ to get a countable dense subset of $X$.
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If $X$ is compact, there are points ${x_i^{(n)}}_{i=1}^{k_n}$ for all $n in mathbb N$ and finite $k_n$, such that
$$
X subset bigcup_{i=1}^{k_n} B(x_i,1/n) qquad (n in mathbb N)
$$
Now take the union of all the $x_i^{(n)}$ to get a countable dense subset of $X$.
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If $X$ is compact, there are points ${x_i^{(n)}}_{i=1}^{k_n}$ for all $n in mathbb N$ and finite $k_n$, such that
$$
X subset bigcup_{i=1}^{k_n} B(x_i,1/n) qquad (n in mathbb N)
$$
Now take the union of all the $x_i^{(n)}$ to get a countable dense subset of $X$.
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If $X$ is compact, there are points ${x_i^{(n)}}_{i=1}^{k_n}$ for all $n in mathbb N$ and finite $k_n$, such that
$$
X subset bigcup_{i=1}^{k_n} B(x_i,1/n) qquad (n in mathbb N)
$$
Now take the union of all the $x_i^{(n)}$ to get a countable dense subset of $X$.
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Let $A_n:= {x_1,...x_n}$, the centers of the finite subcovers for balls with radius $1/n$. Then take $cup_{nin mathbb{N}} A_n$, this set is countable and dense.
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I understand why it is countable since the union of countable many points is once again countable. How do we know that set is dense though?
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– Jon
Dec 1 '14 at 17:03
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Try to show that for each $epsilon > 0$ and $xin X$, there exists $x_epsilon in X$ such that $d(x, x_epsilon) < epsilon$. Hint: there is a cover of $X$ with balls of radius $1/n < epsilon$, also that the center of these balls are in $A = cup_n A_n$.
$endgroup$
– Xiao
Dec 1 '14 at 17:43
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@Xiao Actually $A_n=left{x_1,ldots,x_{N_n}right}$, to avoid confusions.
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– Luiz Cordeiro
Dec 1 '14 at 19:01
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Compact does not imply separable, you may consider inserting the word metric in the title of your question.
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– Mirko
Dec 1 '14 at 20:24